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*[[Saix]] (サイクス) ('''Saïx''') !
*[[Saix]] (サイクス) ('''Saïx''') !
*[[Xion: First Form]] (シオン第一形態) !
*[[Xion: First Form]] (シオン第一形態) !
*[[Xion: Second Form]] (シオン第一形態) !
*[[Xion: Second Form]] (シオン第二形態) !
*[[Xion: Third Form]] (シオン第三形態) !
*[[Xion: Third Form]] (シオン第三形態) !
*[[Xion: Final Form]] (シオン第四形態) !
*[[Xion: Final Form]] (シオン第四形態) !
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Remember to correct the member's page for their signature weapon, and the gear templates!
Remember to correct the member's page for their signature weapon, and the gear templates!
DO NOT REMOVE THE ETYMOLOGY EXPLANATIONS FOR THE JAPANESE NAMES! Just because it's been dubbed doesn't mean there isn't meaning behind its original name.


===Roxas/Xion===
===Roxas/Xion===
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;Lances
;Lances
:::We need to decide now if these are Chinese or Japanese.
:::We need to decide now if these are Chinese or Japanese.
:::For these, the previous English translations will need to be deleted if deemed inaccurate
:::PLEASE LET ME HANDLE THIS, LEXAUES, and ZEXION
:::PLEASE LET ME HANDLE THIS, LEXAUES, and ZEXION
*[[Shippū]] ! [[Zephyr]]
*[[Shippū]] ! [[Zephyr]]
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*[[Yūgumo]] ! [[Nightcloud]]
*[[Yūgumo]] ! [[Nightcloud]]
*[[Shiden]] ! [[Shimmer]]
*[[Shiden]] ! [[Shimmer]]
*[[Senpū]] ! [[Vortex (Lance)]]
*[[Senpū]] ! [[Vortex]]
*[[Zankū]] ! [[Scission]]
*[[Zankū]] ! [[Scission]]
*[[Gekiten]] ! [[Heavenfall]]
*[[Gekiten]] ! [[Heavenfall]]
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*[[Glacier]] ! Glacier
*[[Glacier]] ! Glacier
*[[Absolute Zero]] ! Absolute Zero
*[[Absolute Zero]] ! Absolute Zero
*[[Günz]] ! Günz
*[[Gunz]] ! Günz
*[[Mindel]] ! Mindel
*[[Mindel]] ! Mindel
*[[Snowslide]] ! Snowslide
*[[Snowslide]] ! Snowslide
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*[[Pot Lid]] ! Pot Lid
*[[Pot Lid]] ! Pot Lid
*[[Snowman]] ! Snowman
*[[Snowman]] ! Snowman
===Saix===
;Claymore
*[[New Moon]] ! New Moon
*[[Werewolf]] ! Werewolf
*[[Artemis]] ! Artmeis
*[[Luminary]] ! Luminary
*[[Selene]] ! Selene
*[[Moonrise]] ! Moonrise
*[[Astrologia]] ! Astrologia
*[[Crater]] ! Crater
*[[Lunar Phase]] ! Lunar Phase
*[[Crescent]] ! Crescent
*[[Gibbous]] ! Gibbous
*[[Berserk (Claymore)|Berserk]] ! [[Berserker]]
*[[Twilight (Claymore)|Twilight]] ! Twilight
*[[Queen of the Night]] ! Queen of the Night
*[[Balsamic]] ! [[Balsamic Moon]]
*[[Orbit]] ! Orbit
*[[Light Year]] ! Light Year
*[[King of the Night]] ! King of the Night
*[[Moonset]] ! Moonset
*[[Horoscope]] ! Horoscope
*[[Crocea Mors]] ! [[Dichotomy]]
*[[Lunatic]] ! Lunatic
*[[Dessert Time]] ! [[Just Desserts]]
*[[Bunnymoon]] ! Bunnymoon
===Axel===
;Chakrams
*[[Ash]] ! [[Ashes]]
*[[Doldrums]] ! Doldrums
*[[Delayed Action]] ! Delayed Action
*[[Dive-Bomber]] ! [[Dive-Bombers]]
*[[Burning]] ! [[Combustion]]
*[[Moulin Rouge]] ! Moulin Rouge
*[[Heat Up]] ! [[Blaze of Glory]]
*[[Prometheus]] ! Prometheus
*[[Ifrit]] ! Ifrit
*[[Magma Ocean]] ! Magma Ocean
*[[Volcanics]] ! Volcanics
*[[Blaze (Chakrams)|Blaze]] ! [[Inferno]]
*[[Razing Edge]] ! [[Sizzling Edge]]
*[[Crowning]] ! [[Corona]]
*[[Ferris Wheel]] ! Ferris Wheel
*[[Burning Out]] ! [[Burnout]]
*[[Omega Trinity]] ! Omega Trinity
*[[Outbreak]] ! Outbreak
*[[Double Edge]] ! Double Edge
*[[Rabid Spinner]] ! [[Wildfire]]
*[[Prominence]] ! Prominence
*[[Eternal Flame]] ! [[Eternal Flames]]
*[[Pizza Cut]] ! Pizza Cut
*[[Fūma Shuriken]] ! [[Conformers]]
===Demyx===
;Sitar
*[[Basic Model]] ! Basic Model
*[[Tune-Up]] ! Tune-Up (+)
*[[Quartet]] ! Quartet (+)
*[[Quintet]] ! Quintet (+, ++)
*[[Overture]] ! Overture (+)
*[[Old Hand]] ! Old Hand (+)
*[[Da Capo]] ! Da Capo (+)
*[[Power Chord]] ! Power Chord (+)
*[[Crescendo (Sitar)]] ! [[Fermata]] (+)
*[[Interlude]] ! Interlude (+)
*[[Serenade]] ! Serenade (+)
*[[Hummingbird]] ! [[Songbird]] (+)
*[[Road to Major]] ! [[Rise to Fame]] (+)
*[[The Rock Star]] ! [[Rock Star]] (+)
*[[Eight-Finger]] ! Eight-Finger (+)
*[[Concerto]] ! Concerto (+)
*[[Harmonics]] ! Harmonics (+)
*[[Million Dollar]] ! [[Million Bucks]] (+)
*[[Fortissimo]] ! Fortissimo (+)
*[[Extra Gauge]] ! [[Up to Eleven]] (+)
*[[Sanctuary (Sitar)]] ! Sanctuary (+)
*[[Arpeggio]] ! Arpeggio
*[[Prince Custom]] ! [[Prince of Awesome]]
*[[After School]] ! After School
===Luxord===
;Cards
*[[The Fool]] ! The Fool
*[[The Magician]] ! The Magician (+)
*[[The Star]] ! The Star (+)
*[[The Moon]] ! The Moon (+, ++)
*[[Justice]] ! Justice (+)
*[[The Hierophant]] ! The Hierophant (+)
*[[The World]] ! The World (+, ++)
*[[Temperance]] ! Temperance (+)
*[[The High Priestess]] ! The High Priestess
*[[The Tower]] ! The Tower (+)
*[[The Hanged Man]] ! The Hanged Man (+)
*[[Death]] ! Death (+)
*[[The Hermit]] ! The Hermit (+)
*[[Strength (Cards)]] ! Strength (+) (*Should this be "Strength (Card)"?)
*[[The Lovers]] ! The Lovers (+)
*[[The Chariot]] ! The Chariot (+)
*[[The Sun]] ! The Sun (+)
*[[The Devil]] ! The Devil (+)
*[[The Empress]] ! The Empress (+)
*[[The Emperor (Cards)]] ! The Emperor (+) (*Should this be "The Emperor (Card)"?)
*[[The Joker]] ! The Joker (+)
*[[Fair Game]] ! Fair Game
*[[Ultimate Illusion 13]] ! [[Finest Fantasy 13]]
*[[Gambler's Charm]] ! [[High Roller's Secret]]
===Marluxia===
;Scythe
:I'm checking, but so far all of the dubs are correct.
*[[Fickle Erica]] ! Fickle Erica
*[[Jilted Anemone]] ! Jilted Anemone (+)
*[[Proud Amaryllis]] ! Proud Amaryllis (+)
*[[Mad Safflower]] ! Mad Safflower (+, ++)
*[[Poor Melissa]] ! Poor Melissa (+)
*[[Grieving Allium]] ? [[Tragic Allium]] (+)
*[[Suffering Cineraria]] ? [[Mournful Cineraria]] (+, ++)
*[[Deceptive Silene]] ? [[Psuedo Silene]] (+)
*[[Insincere Digitalis]] ? [[Faithless Digitalis]] (+)
*[[Despairing Muscari]] ? [[Grim Muscari]] (+)
*[[Submitting Vallota]] ? [[Docile Vallota]] (+)
*[[Silent Belladonna]] ? [[Quiet Belladonna]] (+)
*[[Parting Ipheion]] ? Parting Ipheion (+)
*[[Supreme Gerbera]] ? [[Lofty Gerbera]] (+)
*[[Valiant Achillea]] ? [[Gallant Achillea]] (+)
*[[Classy Peony]] ? [[Noble Peony]] (+)
*[[Dreadful Liquorice]] ? [[Fearsome Anise]] (+) (should be Fearsome Liquorice)
*[[Reprising Thistle]] ? [[Vindictive Thistle]] (+)
*[[Tempting Helianthus]] ? [[Fair Helianthus]] (+)
*[[Solemn Magnolia]] ! Solemn Magnolia (+)
*[[Sacred Lotus]] ? [[Hallowed Lotus]] (+)
*[[Graceful Dahlia]] ! Graceful Dahlia
*[[Disturbing Ladle]] ? [[Stirring Ladle]] 
*[[Elegant Lily-of-the-Valley]] ? [[Dainty Bellflowers]] (Should be "Dainty May Bells")
===Larxene===
::For those marked with ?, we need TNE to verify if we were mistaken.
;Knives
*[[Tranchant]] ? [[Trancheuse]]
*[[Orage]] ! Orage (+)
*[[Tourbillon]] ! Tourbillon (+)
*[[Tempête]] ! Tempête (+, ++)
*[[Calmant]] ? [[Carmin]] (+)
*[[Météore]] ! Météore (+)
*[[Étoile]] ! [[Etoile]] (+, ++)
*[[Irrégulier]] ! Irrégulier (+)
*[[Dissonance]] ! Dissonance (+)
*[[Éruption]] ! [[Eruption]] (+)
*[[Soleil Couchant]] ! Soleil Couchant (+)
*[[Indigo]] ! Indigo (+)
*[[Vague]] ! Vague (+)
*[[Déluge]] ! Déluge (+)
*[[Rafale]] ! Rafale (+) 
*[[Typhon]] ! Typhon (+)
*[[Extirper]] ! [[Extirpeur]] (+)
*[[Croix du Sud]] Croix du Sud (+)
*[[Lumineuse]] ! Lumineuse (+)
*[[Clair de Lune]] ! Clair de Lune (+)
*[[Vol de Nuit]] ! Vol de Nuit (+)
*[[Éclair]] ! [[Foudre]]
*[[Libellule]] ! [[Demoiselle]]
*[[Ampoule]] ! Ampoule
===Sora===
*[[Kingdom Key]] ! Kingdom Key (+,++)
*[[Bond of Flame]] ! Bond of Flame (+)
*[[Dream Sword]] ! Dream Sword
===Riku===
*[[Soul Eater]] ! Soul Eater (+,++)
*[[Oblivion]] ! Oblivion (+)
*[[Way to the Dawn]] ! Way to the Dawn
===King Mickey===
*[[Kingdom Key D]] ! Kingdom Key D (+,++)
*[[Star Seeker]] ! Star Seeker (+)
*[[Kingdom Key DΩ]] ! Kingdom Key DΩ (SPLIT OFF FROM KINGDOM KEY D)
===Donald===
*[[Mage's Staff]] ! Mage's Staff (+,++)
*[[Centurion]] ! Centurion (+)
*[[Dream Rod]] ! Dream Rod
===Goofy===
*[[Knight's Shield]] ! Knight's Shield (+,++)
*[[Frozen Pride]] ! Frozen Pride (+)
*[[Dream Shield]] ! Dream Shield


==Discussion==
==Discussion==
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{{GS|time=01:07, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=The problem is that some need to be moved with redirects and some need to be moved without redirects.  This is why we should wait for Kryten.  I'm not sure if all of them should leave redirects behind or not.}}
{{GS|time=01:07, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=The problem is that some need to be moved with redirects and some need to be moved without redirects.  This is why we should wait for Kryten.  I'm not sure if all of them should leave redirects behind or not.}}


{{KrytenKoro|Especially the translated names need to be moved carefully. DTN, could you let me handle those?}}
{{KrytenKoro|Especially the translated names need to be moved carefully. DTN, could you let me handle those?
 
Also to be corrected:
*[[Organization_XIII_Weapons]]
 
and the + redirects}}
{{KrytenKoro|Gwah. It took forever cleaning up after Xaldin. I'm going to upload Axel, Demyx, and Luxord next, but give me some time. DTN, if you want to do those, feel free, but I'd like to handle the translation names - Lexaeus, Zexion, Marluxia, and Larxene.}}
{{DTN|time=22:29, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=Sorry for apparently screwing up the movement of Xaldin's weapons. I've looked over the guide, and it seems that Demyx and Luxord have almost identical to what we have. I'll make those moves, and fix and make the + redirects. Feel free to take care of the rest of those CoM members' weapons. <small>(By the way, have I mentioned that it's really annoying that I can only move about two pages every five minutes or so?)</small>}}
{{KrytenKoro|We'll have to wait for the game to be out to get translations for the limit breaks. The entire coverage of limit breaks in the guide is:
 
*Limit Gauge: When HP drops into the yellow portion of the bar, Limit Break becomes available.
 
The guide also neglects to mention the stick and struggle bat that Roxas picks up.
}}
{{KrytenKoro|[[Missing Ache]] is officially our first complete Days article!}}
{{KrytenKoro|emotion=happy|The new enemy template is now online (for Heartless)! Ex. [[Tailbunker]].}}

Latest revision as of 15:49, 4 September 2022

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Enemies[edit]

  • [[Name]] (kana) ('''EngName if different''') => [[Days name]] (! if same) (*discussion)
  • Creepworm (クリープワーム) ! (change parsing)

Boss list[edit]

Days really stretches the definition of bosses, as most of these reappear as normal enemies later on. I propose that we only consider bosses the ones that 1) have an event battle and 2) either appear in only one mission, or are in the boss section of the journal. Then again, missions that specifically ask you to assassinate a certain Heartless could imply bossitude, though the guide misses some obvious ones, like the Unknowns and the Tentaclaw (which is also officially called ???). We need to discuss this.

Also, there does not appear to be an Anti-Xigbar listed, though there is Anti-Riku and Anti-Saix. HOWEVER, I can only find those listed in a compendium of which enemies drop which treasures and points, and Xigbar is not listed at all, so it might still be its name.Glorious CHAOS! 02:28, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Twilight Town
Beast's Castle
Agrabah
Olympus Coliseum
Wonderland
Halloween Town
Neverland
The World That Never Was


Weapons[edit]

(!) means keep our translation, (?) means get rid of our translation Remember for these, we need to change the character page, character weapon templates, and gear templates.

i.e.: Any links with a ! after them should be blue, any links with a ? should be red.

Remember to correct the member's page for their signature weapon, and the gear templates!

DO NOT REMOVE THE ETYMOLOGY EXPLANATIONS FOR THE JAPANESE NAMES! Just because it's been dubbed doesn't mean there isn't meaning behind its original name.

Roxas/Xion[edit]

Keyblade

Xemnas[edit]

Ethereal Blades

Xigbar[edit]

Arrowguns

Xaldin[edit]

Lances
We need to decide now if these are Chinese or Japanese.
PLEASE LET ME HANDLE THIS, LEXAUES, and ZEXION

Vexen[edit]

Shield

Saix[edit]

Claymore

Axel[edit]

Chakrams

Demyx[edit]

Sitar

Luxord[edit]

Cards


Marluxia[edit]

Scythe
I'm checking, but so far all of the dubs are correct.

Larxene[edit]

For those marked with ?, we need TNE to verify if we were mistaken.
Knives

Sora[edit]

Riku[edit]

King Mickey[edit]

Donald[edit]

Goofy[edit]

Discussion[edit]

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KrytenKoro - "I'm the doctor, I'm the patient. Don't forget that - it's important! If you love me like I love me, everybody will be sorry."
TALK -
This is why I wanted to work on this on my own (see Two became One, for an example of parsing error), but this is a good solution I can think of. What we need to do is compile the dubs for each name here, determine which ones are actually different from the Japanese name, and which ones are just parsed or translated slightly differently. If it's actually a different name, the original article needs to remain as a redirect to the dubbed name. However, if it was an INCORRECT TRANSLATION, like "Serendipitous Pair", the previous page needs to be DELETED AS A FAN-NAME. This is something that needs to be done carefully, as there are instances like the Mega Shadow being parsed without a hyphen in Final Mix, but with a hyphen in days. Both of those would be correct spellings.

When an article is moved, all templates and articles which list it need to be corrected as well. Furthermore, we might want to add a "See Also" section to the enemy articles (and get rid of that "Magic Heartless" category) for enemies with the same body-type, like the Soldiers and Dualblades. We will also need a disambig for ????.

Discussion

  • Is "Striped" an accepted translation of ストライプ?
  • Is "Skater" an accepted translation of スケート?
DaysZexion.png
Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 02:02, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Wait, have you already got the guide right now?

Haha, I guess you do.

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 02:12, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Wait, how did that happen?
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KrytenKoro - Click
TALK -
Early birthday present. We're not really trying this year.

I've actually got a party to go to now, so I'm going to take a break from this until tomorrow. I'll try to post dub lists for the gears and weapons as well, and then I'll revamp the templates for Days Heartless and weapons so we can start that going.

DaysZexion.png
Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 02:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png DTN, don't forget to remove the translation templates after you move the pages.
DaysZexion.png
Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 04:50, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png All of the enemy pages are moved correctly now. I suppose it's time to make the templates? Unless you want to work on moving weapons and such first, Kryten.
Ooh, could we do weapons?—Urutapu 04:55, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 05:55, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Sorry, I forgot to make the name changes in the article and remove the template for the first two or three pages that I moved. I got those all fixed, though. Well, we've got everything moved, then. Thanks for fixing up what I missed, GS. So, I suppose we should do weapons now, then.
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 18:14, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Sorry if you meant for some of those to be redirected, you said to get rid of translations so I misunderstood.

EDIT: Nevermind, you were clear, I just didn't realize that some of the titles that needed to be moved had (!) beside them.

Well, I picked up the guide today at the mall. I've already finished Xigbar's weapons, so I'll post the weapons for Xaldin-Larxene. Basically, they're in the same order as they are in our navigation template, so you'll hopefully be able to know what to move by that. These all need to be moved, as none of our names are correct. I have to leave to go to dinner; I'll try to upload more later. --DoorToNothing

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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 01:07, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png The problem is that some need to be moved with redirects and some need to be moved without redirects. This is why we should wait for Kryten. I'm not sure if all of them should leave redirects behind or not.


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KrytenKoro - "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life."
TALK -
Especially the translated names need to be moved carefully. DTN, could you let me handle those?

Also to be corrected:

and the + redirects

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KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT."
TALK -
Gwah. It took forever cleaning up after Xaldin. I'm going to upload Axel, Demyx, and Luxord next, but give me some time. DTN, if you want to do those, feel free, but I'd like to handle the translation names - Lexaeus, Zexion, Marluxia, and Larxene.
Room Core.png
DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 22:29, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Sorry for apparently screwing up the movement of Xaldin's weapons. I've looked over the guide, and it seems that Demyx and Luxord have almost identical to what we have. I'll make those moves, and fix and make the + redirects. Feel free to take care of the rest of those CoM members' weapons. (By the way, have I mentioned that it's really annoying that I can only move about two pages every five minutes or so?)
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KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!"
TALK -
We'll have to wait for the game to be out to get translations for the limit breaks. The entire coverage of limit breaks in the guide is:
  • Limit Gauge: When HP drops into the yellow portion of the bar, Limit Break becomes available.

The guide also neglects to mention the stick and struggle bat that Roxas picks up.

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KrytenKoro - And when you see me standing there, you'll know you've got a friend with a rock, I mean a big-ass rock.
TALK -
Missing Ache is officially our first complete Days article!
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KrytenKoro - "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life."
TALK -
The new enemy template is now online (for Heartless)! Ex. Tailbunker.