Talk:Xehanort

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I really don't think that his spirit went on to Terra and then Terra then lost his memory and ended up in Radiant Garden, where all he could remember was his possessor's name. It makes no sense that he has a Nobody and a Heartless yet he still appears in Kh2 final mix, i would belive that his apprentice would most likely be him Saxor 06:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This is just a crazy probably not true theory.

Maybe Master Xehanort is Xehanort's Unbirth. Think about it, the main antagonist in KH 1 and 2 were the leader and the same thing as the enemy force: Ansem=Heartless, Xemnas=Nobody. So it only makes sense that Master Xehanort=Unbirth. But it's just a theory.--Vatek 12:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

AbOhWn - I'd rather we just skip the formalities TALK - Parley ! That's exactly what I was thinking!

I think this is a really confusing theory . An unbirth can only be created AFTER the death of a nobody and a heartless, because of this, MX can't be an unbirth, because xehanort is only defeated After KH 1 and 2. Then again, MX can be an unbirth. he spoke somewhat of how darkness wasn't the right path for him and how he didn't wan't ven to make his " mistake" It's possible MX was consummed by darkness, and became a heartless and a nobody, these in turn could have been defeated, (Birth by sleep sequels anyone?)creating MX, who kept his personality as a heartless, nobody, and now an unbirth.--142.46.164.89 22:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Name

Perhaps an irrelevant detail, but I'm wondering, is "Master" part of his name, or is it just his title/rank? Drake Clawfang 18:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a title but keep it there to avoid confusion with the other Xehanort

Xehanort

Cecil the Paladin - If light and darkness are eternal, then surely the nothing must be the same... eternal! TALK - I don't think this guy 's the same Xehanorth that spawned Ansem the Wise and Xemnas, why would he be older here, ten years before, than in KH and KHII?

are we really sure how old he is?(He might shave his head and just likes a goatee)

Even the facial features are different, dear. I'm sure our present-day Xehanort wouldn't have had a nip and tuck before actually being found by Ansem the Wise... ^_^ Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Kingdomheartsfreek - The names Axel, got it memorized. TALK - no heart, no feelings you are wrong visit my home page, that is were i have said every thing.--KHF "fight to win" 23:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

We didn't even say anything far apart from the theory. That's where YOU are wrong. All we did were guesses and requests for information, not statements. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Here is my theory: After Master Xehanort took over Terra's body Terra grew older, his hair longer, and remember that it turned gray when MX took over his body. So the present-day Xehanort is the past Xehanort in Terra's body. --ZexionFan321 21:52, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Force XIII - I sense a disturbance.... TALK - {{{time}}} I completely agree with Zexion fan. thats pretty much how the story goes

Nomura screwed it again?

Hold on, the guy says those who wield the darkness can't use the Keyblade yet:

Xehanort, Terra and Riku clearly use them despite this....so....what's goin' on? D: Kaihedgie 00:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Was the wielding of darkness real, or was it a ploy by Maleficent ? Also, it doesn't matter what side of the scale you're on. MX might've just gotten his facts wrong. In actual fact, those with strong hearts can wield Keyblades, no matter what their alignment may be. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Exactly what I was thinkin'. In addition, you can't really call the 'Dark Keyblade' a false Keyblade, or the ones wielded by Terra, Aqua and Ven for that matter. Just because they don't have a Keychain, doesn't mean anything. The Dark Keyblade, despite lackin' such a device, still functions like any other Keyblade would: unlocking hearts and gateways to other worlds. Kaihedgie 02:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Truly, MX isn't the only one to have gotten his facts wrong : Xehanort himself did, towards the end of KH. Who knows if Nomura deliberately put it in ? We know how antagonists distort the view on things. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

MX doesn't say they aren't Capable of wielding the keyblade just that they aren't "Qualified" to. In other words, he's prejudiced. "we don't hate it it's just kinda...Scary.But the world's made of light and Darkness,you can't have one without the other;Cause Darkness is half of Everything. sorta makes ya wonder why we are scared of the dark. "It's because of who's lurking inside it." Just as Dark is not Evil, so can Light is not Good.

We don't know what the true translation is : "capable" or "qualified". But either way, MX is just one of those people who got his facts wrong. When you get your facts wrong, you have prejudices. Ansem the Wise had prejudices against Nobodies because he never wanted to accept the truth about Roxas and Namine, and he kept on screwing it up. I'm pretty sure Xehanort would've had prejudices of his own kind. If MX ever lives through to another sequel, he should see Riku. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

the phrases "Knight Templar" or "Well-intentioned Extremist" come to mind

"Light and Darkness are mear elements, only good or evil when weilded by those with good or evil hearts." True, no? In my opinion, it appears that the only "qualification" you need is a sufficiently strong heart, so long as your heart remains strong, your keyblade will stay with you, even, in some cases, a keyblade will form from your own sword if your heart's strong enough, like Riku's soul eater/way to dawn, and, even if your heart isn't in your body, the keyblade will still let you use it I.E. Roxas, Xion, heck, I bet Namine could also have weilded a keyblade, given that Kiari can. NobodiewithaHeart

In response to the comment immediately above, Roxas could only wield a Keyblade because he SPOILERS contained the remains of Ventus' heart/END SPOILERS. Xion is a copy of Roxas, and can therefore wield his Keyblade. And to clarify, there are three varieties of the Keyblade: WARNING SPOILERS

1. The whole and the two halves of the Ki-blade. This/these are the Keyblade(s) used by Sora (Kingdom Key -The 'kingdom' being...well, that should be obvious), King Mickey's Keyblade chronologically after BIrth by sleep (Kingdom Key D.), And the combined 'Ki-blade' wielded by Vanitas in the conclusion of Ven's Scenario (and technically, Aqua's as well) in Birth By Sleep.

2. The Keyblade of people's hearts, which can unlock Kingdom Hearts, as can the Ki-blade. This is the dark Keyblade made from the princesses' hearts.

3. The Keyblade of a person's heart, which will manifest itself from their own heart if the person has sufficient strength of heart. These are the Keyblades used by everyone save Sora, Mickey after BBS (his original Keyblade is the Star Seeker), and Vanitas when he battles Ven in their awakening (he otherwise uses a finned keyblade with two eyes on the blade and hilt). -Xabrin

Master Xehanort's "Mistake"

In the TGS2008 trailer for Birth By Sleep MX says "Use your power to defeat the darkness. And correct my mistake!". Does anyone have any idea what his "mistake" was?

probably his apprentice falling into darkness.

Joe Keyblade Aura Come chat! — You shouldn't judge anyone based on appearance. Dance, water, dance! or maybe master x made the aprentice out of the darkness in his heart

Joe Keyblade, your theory was scary close to being correct.

Random Shoe Resemblance

did anyone notice that MX has the exact same shoes/boots as the organization members, probably where the organization actually got the from.

Similarities

I found this picture that shows the similarities between Master Xehanort and Xehanort's heartless:

Are they the same person or something?

User:Ninabean822

Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this? There are quite a few differences with that and more notable ones at that. 1. Xehanort's Heartless has hair and isn't bald. 2. He's not blind (milky-white eyes mean someone is blind). 3. He doesn't have any facial hair, let alone a goatee. 4. He has the tan that we all dream of instead of being paler than pale.

Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 22:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC) Well, the current belief is that the Xehanort we know may be Terra. Terra may be the apprentice, as MX's A and MX become separated for a time (Terra's playable storylline). If Terra becomes Xehanort and is the apprentice, he may have acquired his master's old clothes.

Speculation

Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!! TALK - 20:53, October 16, 2009 (UTC) I don't know what you guys think but the speculation section in this article is a bit... crazy >.> Besides, didn't we have a policy for no speculation in articles and a Speculation header defies that completely? I propose the speculation part is moved to a forum thread so people can go wild with their thoughts there while the article remains with only the known facts.

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 20:55, October 16, 2009 (UTC) I'd side with that. Wow guys, just wow. We've let the speculation thing stay this long >_>

Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!! TALK - 20:56, October 16, 2009 (UTC) Yeah I'm just moving it, since it's ridculous

ToaTonyia - "Your body submits, your heart succumbs— so why does your mind resist?" TALK - {{{"all thats left is darkness.}}} {{{i totally agree with that.I mean seriously, a speculation header =p thats a serious fail. }}}

New Screenshot

A recent scan[1] has a full body in-game screenshot of master xehanort maybe that would be a better picture for this article.

I have provided a better picture but Yer Mom is reverting it. --Black Summers 21:26, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 21:30, October 20, 2009 (UTC) It isn't a better picture, it's terrible quality.

... right, so you'd prefer a side-face shot o