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<div class="usermessage" align=center style="top: 10px; left: 235px; width: 70%;"><big>ATTENTION</big><br><br>Requests for affiliation should be made in the [[KHWiki talk:Affiliates/Requests|Affiliates discussion page]].<br><br>Requests for changes to the wiki software and bug reports should be added to the [[Forum:Bug reports|software forum]].</div>
<div class="usermessage" align=center style="top: 10px; left: 235px; width: 70%;">Bye Y'all it's been fun but not as fun as spending time with Adelaide okay bye.</div>


== Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix: Enemy Journal Entries ==


I can make screenshots of the entries but neither write them down nor translate them. I don't know who's responsible for the entries of the exlusive KH Final Mix enemies (maybe someone from gamefaqs?) but can you, BebopKate or Yuanchosaan translate them or know someone who can?--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 20:25, June 7, 2010 (UTC)<br>
:Okay, I tried to get the Japanese writings recognized by two different OCR softwares (RedIris Pro 12 and Smart OCR lite Edition), but I got no satisfactory result, even with a lot more bigger images and better contrast etc. The KHII font seems to be very complicated or strange, I don't know. Maybe you have an better idea, here are the [http://www.mediafire.com/?2z2y0kuqkkm images]. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 13:35, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


== Spectre Rip ==
{{ErryTalk|text=Well, it's not a rip but I just removed Marluxia and the flower on top. Would this be suitable?
http://i48.tinypic.com/2akfk8z.jpg}}
== Coliseum names ==
Is there a provision for japanese seed names, like "Red Death" for "Red Legion" in the Hades Cup?  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 20:19, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
:Well, apparently I've lost my source. Putting that aside, what do you want to do with the "Notes"?  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 20:58, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Need help reading the text in a blurry video. [http://www.justin.tv/cyberman6/b/266978929 Around 33:25].  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 17:57, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
:I'd appreciate it if you could take a look before the video inevitably gets deleted.  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 05:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


== KH & KHFM gummi enemies ==
== KH & KHFM gummi enemies ==
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Yes I know, it's a bit early to talk about them, the KHII section isn't even finished yet. But maybe you have an idea how to adapt the template for them. [http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2663/examplehw.png This] is an extreme example from the Ultimania.
Yes I know, it's a bit early to talk about them, the KHII section isn't even finished yet. But maybe you have an idea how to adapt the template for them. [http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2663/examplehw.png This] is an extreme example from the Ultimania.
Not every ship has two variants (Omega is the only ship that as a "C" variant) or sub variants (they just seem to affect the drops, maybe they are the "before/after rescue" equivalents, I don't know). Nearly every main variant (A, B or C) has a different Final Mix appearance, the stats are the same though.--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 22:41, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
Not every ship has two variants (Omega is the only ship that as a "C" variant) or sub variants (they just seem to affect the drops, maybe they are the "before/after rescue" equivalents, I don't know). Nearly every main variant (A, B or C) has a different Final Mix appearance, the stats are the same though.--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 22:41, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
== unfinished business ==
hey, did you have plans for [[Talk:Abilities (Kingdom Hearts)|this mess]]?  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 22:35, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
== BBS Ultimania and Mirage Arena ==
{{ShardofTruth|time=20:14, September 8, 2010 (UTC)|talk=Unfortunately I still don't have the BBS Ultimania, but maybe I can help you nonetheless.
The only scaned pages that I found online are the one's at [http://heartstation.org/gallery/birth-by-sleep/ultimania Heartstation]. But as you may already saw, there are no scans of the Mirage Arena in particular. But the [http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fworld-mognet.blogspot.com%2F2010%2F06%2Fbbs-complete-solution-mirage-arena.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8 guide] of [[User:MardukKurios|MardukKurios]] does cover all the seeds (one guide on gamefaqs too), he uses the Ultimania so the info should be correct. Now all that rememains are the stats.
The stats in BBS work like I explained for KHII in the other thread. Every normal enemy (like [http://heartstation.org/gallery/albums/birth-by-sleep/ultimania/bbsu%20051.png Bruiser]) has an HP and EXP coefficient that has to be multiplied with a value that is fixed for every level (and playable character in BBS's case I think). Now there are two different level systems in BBS, one for the [http://heartstation.org/gallery/albums/birth-by-sleep/ultimania/bbsu%20077.png Mirage Arena] (the difficulty level) and one for the [http://heartstation.org/gallery/albums/birth-by-sleep/ultimania/bbsu%20076.png normal gameplay].
Therefore a Bruiser in the Challenge "Day of Reckoning" (e.g. Round 1, 3rd wave) should have 90 HP whereas in "Weaver Fever" (e.g. Round 1, 1st wave) it should have 108 HP.
I didn't translate every stat and explanation, because I'm very slow at it, so maybe there is more to take account off. The stats may have also be changened in the NA/PAL version, I don't know. I hope some of this helps anyway.
I'm planning to get the BBS Ultimania, but not at the moment.}}
I'm using part of Neumannz work for the Mirage Arena on this one:
{|style="float: left; border:solid 2px #000000;-moz-border-radius:10px; text-align:center" align="center";" width="100%"
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Difficulty'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Match'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HP'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''EXP'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Strength'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Defense'''
|-
|rowspan="2"|★☆☆☆☆||Day of Reckoning, Risky Riches||50||10||13||4
|-
||Wheels of Misfortune||55||12||16||5
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|rowspan="2"|★★☆☆☆||Weaver Fever, Dead Ringer||60||15||19||7
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
||Sinister Sentinel||75||19||21||10
|-
|rowspan="2"|★★★☆☆||Treasure Tussle||75||19||21||10
|-
||Combined Threat, Harsh Punishment||85||27||24||13
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|★★★★☆||A Time to Chill, Copycat Crisis||105||45||30||16
|-
|rowspan="2"|★★★★★||Keepers of the Arena||130||63||36||19
|-
||Villain's Vendetta||N/A||N/A||40||20
|-
|
|}
Strength and Defense are fixed, HP and EXP must be multiplied (except for the bosses). --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 08:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
== Maps ==
{{ShardofTruth|time=17:41, September 16, 2010 (UTC)|talk=I made the 358 Days one first, because I thought it would be the easiest. I was wrong^^
The [[:File:Kingdom_Hearts_358_Days_World_Map.png|image]] is a compilation of screenshots and ripped textures. It's not possible to get the real world map without building it again in a 3D editor. It's quite clever designed though, just hard to rip. KH is next and then CoM and ReCoM, I'm still brooding over the KHII and BBS one.}}
{{ShardofTruth|time=16:39, September 18, 2010 (UTC)|talk=Okay, a litte update on the KHII, BBS and sadly the KH map. The problem is, that the world maps consist of different layers which also vary in the space between them. If the camera position is changed, only the layers most close to the camera change it's position largely whereas the viewpoint on the layers at the bottom (the background stars and the clouds) change very litte.
Also because even the pathways are textured 3D models or vectors it's not possible to rip them with normal methods. Without ripping all models and building them in a new application or get control of the camera functions in the game it's not possible to get the real world maps.
Maybe there is a more simple solution, but I don't know if its accurate enough: The guidebooks provide their own world maps ([http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2493/kingdomheartsmap2.png 1] and [http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8113/kingdomheartsiimap.png 2]) which are more schematic. I could "remake" them with actual ingame textures and backgrounds. That's also a lot of work and because of their fanmade and semi-official history they maybe won't accepted as wiki material. I'd like to ask for your opinion about this matter.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Honestly, the background stars don't matter - if you can more easily rip just the worlds and paths, that would be sufficient, and just throw them on a black or invisibible background. However, if it's not possible to rip them at all, Then getting the planetoid rips and matching them to a schematic should be fine for now. It's way more than we have right now, neh?}}
== Unversed stats, Battle Levels and Mirage Arena ==
{{ShardofTruth|time=10:42, October 12, 2010 (UTC)|talk=I was thinking a while about this, but I didn't come up with a good solution, so that are just my thoughts.
I know it was very complicated to implement the BBS stats tab for the three characters, but I think even now it doesn't cover all information, which can even lead to false assumptions.
The main reason why the stats are varying greatly for the characters and the worlds have one simple reason: the Battle Level.
I'm most likely telling you nothing new, just to make this clear: the Battle level is the golden number that is shown on the world map before landing an the actual world.
Because TVA visit the worlds in different orders, the battle level is mostly never the same on the same world. But that's only the beginning. Through events, I haven't figured out completely (maybe it's just the end game save with the star or the used difficulty), the battle level changes near or after endgame. Radiant Garden gets the Battle Level 10 for Terra, while 9 for Ven and stays 6 for Aqua (but goes up to 10 in Final Episode). So the stats for the [[Flood]] would be false in Terra's and Ven's case, if the Battle level change occurs .
Because the Battle Level is so important, wouldn't it be better to use it as foundation for the stats and not the location?
Pro:
*better overview: dismiss the Terra, Ven and Aqua tab, just one for normal gameplay and one for the Mirage Arena
*if coded correctly: only the multipliers of HP and EXP would be needed to fill out the stats of every regular enemy because strength and defense are fixed
Contra:
*location based stats are easier to understand}}
{{KrytenKoro|Right now, it's coded so that the stats ''are'' based on the battle level, it just doesn't show the battle level (I think). If you can figure out what the levels are at the different events, those could be put in too, I guess, though this is really starting to get confusing.
Oh, and I still need to code the Mirage Arena. Sorry.}}
{{ShardofTruth|time=20:14, October 12, 2010 (UTC)|talk=God, I feel stupid right now. I should've at least checked the template before I wrote this message. Maybe I come up with a feasible solution for the battle level change.}}
Okay, I made the definite battle level table, enjoy the view and become desperate.
{|style="float: left; border:solid 2px #000000;-moz-border-radius:10px; text-align:center" align="center";" width="100%"
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Event'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;" colspan="3"|'''Before completing Radiant Garden'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;" colspan="3"|'''After completing Radiant Garden'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;" colspan="3"|'''After unlocking Keyblade Graveyard'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Final Episode'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;" colspan="3"|'''After Final Episode'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''After beating Vanitas Remnant'''
|-
| '''Character'''||T||V||A||T||V||A||T||V||A||A||T||V||A||TVA
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| Land of Departure||1||#||1||1||#||1||8||1||1||#||8||1||1||13
|-
| Enchanted Dominion||1||3||3||2||4||4||4||6||6||8||8||8||6||
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| Castle of Dreams||2||2||1||3||3||2||5||5||4||8||8||8||4||
|-
| Dwarf Woodlands||3||1||2||4||2||3||6||4||5||8||8||8||5||
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| Radiant Garden||4||4||4||4||4||4||6||6||6||10||10||9||6||
|-
| Mysterious Tower||3||#||#||3||6||5||4||7||5||8||8||8||5||
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| Disney Town||#||#||#||5||5||5||6||6||6||7||7||7||6||
|-
| Olympus Coliseum||#||#||#||5||5||5||6||6||6||8||8||8||6||
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| Deep Space||#||#||#||6||6||6||7||7||7||9||9||9||7||
|-
| Neverland||#||#||#||7||7||7||8||8||8||9||9||10||8||
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| Keyblade Graveyard*||0||4||#||0||4||#||9||9||9||10||10||10||9||
|-
|
|}
<nowiki>*called Badlands before unlocking the Keyblade Graveyard, the battle level of the fight against Vanitas Remnant is considered 99 by the Ultimania</nowiki><br>
<nowiki>#can't be visited at this point</nowiki>
The battle level of Terra and Ven after completing the Final Episode can be glitched so it stays the same as before completing the game. Some argue that the glitch is the increasing of the battle level instead. But that would mean that the level of the Keyblade Graveyard wouldn't rise from 9 to 10 which is cleary the case in the Japanese version and described by the Ultimania. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 22:18, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
==Italian Wikia==
I and my friends, initiate to create a Italian Wikia
http://it.itkingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_Italia_Wiki
can you create the links for the other wikias? (franch, english and deutch)
thanks^^--[[User:PRISON KEEPER|PRISON KEEPER]] 10:20, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
== Rooms ==
*<s>http://i56.tinypic.com/6rhkx3.jpg</s>
*<s>http://i55.tinypic.com/245f2vs.jpg {{nihongo|'''Sora's Mind'''|ソラの精神世界|Sora No Seishin Sekai|lit. "Sora's Soul World"}}</s>
*http://i53.tinypic.com/2r4mu0h.jpg
*http://i55.tinypic.com/2qxnlg6.jpg
*<s>http://i53.tinypic.com/2yxky10.jpg - A lot of the rooms in the Keyblade Graveyard had this name, places like where the lingering sentiment had kneeled down onto the Ends of the Earth.</s>
*<s>http://i52.tinypic.com/44501.jpg - Where you fight as the Lingering Sentiment</s>
<s>*http://i51.tinypic.com/ejbwww.jpg - Where Aqua ends up</s>
*http://i51.tinypic.com/2lcwg.jpg
*<s>{{nihongo|'''Character Selection'''|キャラ選択用|Kyara Sentaku You|lit. "For character selection"}}</s>
*{{nihongo|'''Terra-Xehanort's Mind'''|テラ-ゼアノートの精神世界|Tera-Zeanōto No Seishin Sekai|lit. "Terra-Xehanort's Soul World"}}
*{{nihongo|'''Inside the Mirror'''|鏡の中|Kagami No Naka}}
I translated the area's of the RoD:
*闇の世界 :上層(Realm of Darkness: Upper Layer)
*闇の世界 :中層(Realm of Darkness: Inside Layer)
*The boss fight is probably 闇の世界 :昨層(Realm of Darkness: Last Layer) but to make sure, we'll have to wait until hacks for the room and for me to fix my PSP.
{{User:Erry/Sig}} 01:10, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
*闇の狭間 (Dark Valley?) [http://i53.tinypic.com/fappac.jpg]
*闇シンデレラ城(FM) (Dark Cinderella Castle (FM)) [http://i54.tinypic.com/k1bcq8.jpg]
{{neumannz|time=18:06, January 26, 2011 (UTC)|text=You're missing 闇の世界：下層, which I take it is "Realm of Darkness: Lower Layer"}}


== notes ==
== notes ==
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Finish organizing:
Finish organizing:
<gallery>
<gallery>
File:AttackCard.png
File:Attack Card KHBBS.png
File:Magic Card.png
File:Magic Card KHBBS.png
File:Misc Card.png
File:Misc Card KHBBS.png
File:JokerCard.png
File:Joker Card KHBBS.png
File:Bottle ingredient.png
File:Bottle flavor KHBBS.png
File:Cake ingredient.png
File:Candy flavor KHBBS.png
File:Candy ingredient.png
File:Fruit flavor KHBBS.png
File:Topping ingredient.png
File:Topping flavor KHBBS.png
File:Spice ingredient.png
File:Spice flavor KHBBS.png
File:Disney Town Passport.png
File:Disney Town Passport KHBBS.png
File:Neverland Treasure Map.png
File:Neverland Treasure Map KHBBS.png
File:D-LinkEmblem.png
File:D-Link Emblem KHBBS.png
</gallery>
</gallery>


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*Ice Titan (Leather Gloves) - Ice Lance
*Ice Titan (Leather Gloves) - Ice Lance


== Sectors ==
How do you determine the number of each sector?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 02:01, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
:I'm going off the order in the gamefaqs guide. I didn't know you could do the Wonderland ones in any order.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:28, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, for example, the sector in the Bizarre Room can be entered anytime after talking to the Doorknob, regardless of whether you've gone to either of the other two.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 02:42, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
:Give me a bit. I'll try to figure out a method.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:46, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
I think the Ultimania might give them numbers, but I don't know if they have any differentiation in-game.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 07:21, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
== Air Recovery ==
[http://s817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/darkfalcon3274/?action=view&current=Untitled7.png] We need to add this to [[Deck Command (KHBBS)]], but I don't read Japanese. Hint hint.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 07:05, January 25, 2011 (UTC)




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== Re:coded Ultimania requests ==
{{ShardofTruth|time=14:04, 15 May 2011 (EDT)|talk=Okay, this took a very long time, but I moved to a new apartment and things were pretty messed up, but now it's nearly over (and I found the books under all the other junk)^^.
*Floor plans: I hope [http://www.mediafire.com/?o1xf1g9dzaoxar8 this] is helpful.
*Moggle shops, chests, drops etc.: This is a bit much. The information is all over the place, in every world, every map, every system sector. I can't scan 200 pages, I neither have the time nor the inclination to do this.
*Enemy stats: All the normal enemies are in [http://www.mediafire.com/?oblhok035z3sczt here], complete with stat explanation.
*358/2 Days spells: All the available info can be found on [http://www.mediafire.com/?yipvjktyv4bs6xy these pages].}}
{{ShardofTruth|time=17:51, 15 May 2011 (EDT)|talk=I bought my copy from [http://www.yesasia.com/global/kingdom-hearts-re-coded-ultimania/1023641490-0-0-0-en/info.html Yesasia]. Because the Ultimanias are quite heavy international shipping costs a fortune, gladly it's free on Yesasia. Japanese artbooks and guidebooks are still a expensive hobby, I haven't found a good source for preowned or/and cheap items.}}
==Moogle KHII Template==
Rough edit done [http://www.khwiki.net/User:Xion4ever/Atelier#Moogle_Tables here]. I wasn't sure what synthesis image to use for the synthesis material. Comments? Thanks, Kryten.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 17:04, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
:Basically, just model it on what I'm doing for days: Item, Ingredients, and When Unlocked. Both items and ingredients should show images.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:27, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
== Workin' on the SEs ==
Could you translate this? It's from the ReCOM Ultimania description of the Confuse status.
敵の場合は, 操作キャラクターを見矢う.
At this point, I think we're down to these points:
#What statuses are there in KH besides Stun, Poison, Gravity, Stop and Aero Shield? (What is the effect that Kurt Zisa inflicts?)
#What statuses are there in KHII besides Stun, Magnet, and Freeze? (And do we count Doom in the Marluxia battle, that continuously damaging effect from the Xemnas I battle, or the effects from the Lingering Will battle?)
#What positive statuses are there in COM/ReCOM and BBS? (Do we count some enemy card effects? Is Illusion a status effect?)
Anything I missed?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
== Merging ==
{{Darkheart3|time={{User:Darkheart3/Autosig}}05:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)|normal=Hi Kryten. Just wondering if you want these articles carried over or not:
*[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Accessories_(Kingdom_Hearts) List of Accessories (Kingdom Hearts]
*[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Accessories_(Kingdom_Hearts_II) List of Accessories (Kingdom Hearts II)]
*[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Armor List of Armor]
Thanks!}}




== Suite template ==
Kryten, I was moving some "(Boss)" labelled pages to the game  namespace for the correct utilization of the suite template and I realized: What do we do with pages like [[Maleficent (Dragon)]] or [[World of Chaos]]? Due to their label, the suite template will not recognonize them as part of the character suite, or am I missing somenthing important here?
--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 07:48, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:For "mostly bosses", we can either keep in them in the mainspace, or split off the game strategy stuff into a Game: page, creating two pages out of the current one. For specific stuff like Dragon Maleficent or Genie Jafar, it's also open to discussion whether we want to merge them into the Maleficent and Jafar articles, now that there is going to be more room on each page.
:The simplest solution would be to leave them in the mainspace, but I would personally prefer if we could merge them into their parent articles (at least for story), as they operate very similarly to how we merge the various versions of one character (like Valor Form or Timeless Mickey). If you guys agree, just mark them with merge templates and I can handle the cleanup.
:Also, if people prefer that the boss sections be separated so that each page only covers one of the boss's forms, then there's a version of the suite code that allows a custom navbox to be built, so that Maleficent's suite could have:
:*Character
:*Cards
:*Quotes
:*Gallery
:*Gameplay (Witch)
:*Gameplay (Dragon)
:*etc.
:Just tell me whatever you guys decide you want to do, and I can get you the code.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:25, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
::I don't know what you mean by "mostly bosses", but I agree with merging the non-gameplay sections into parent articles, and I like the idea of letting the suite template take custom input, like how the Character/Enemy templates take custom image tabs.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 15:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Neumannz: I mean those articles that we never made (Boss) articles for because it didn't seem necessary to split off the strategy "due to article size". Stuff like World of Chaos, or Jafar's Shadow, or Lucifer. However, the suite template gives us a bit more leeway with making "separate" pages, because they are still clearly tied together and it ends up acting like tabs.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, it seems like a good idea to me. So, overall, for "boss only" articles regarding character would be split in a similar way we did it a wikia? An overview section and a boss section? (of course, heartless and Nobodies wouldnt get that treatment, I assume) And yes, the suite template should offer a certain degree of customization for this kind of cases.
:::--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 17:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay, I'll set up the customsuite template tonight. What will happen is that pages like Maleficent will have their own /suite page that defines how their suite displays, so the coding will be a little bit different than for the ones where the suite generates automatically.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::Why create a new template for it? All you need is an #ifexists for the X/Suite page. Then you don't have to worry about whether or not it's custom. Simply creating the X/Suite page would be enough, then the template can handle it from there. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 17:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:That is the goal, yes. Sorry if I phrased it poorly.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}}
::How's [[Template talk:Suite|this]] looking? {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 22:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
== オーバードライブ ==
Overdrive is:
*Auron's Limit ability
*Maleficent's Enemy Card's effect
*Terra's D-Link's LV1 ability
How many articles?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 19:02, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:At least two, but probably three. I can't remember if Terra's finisher is at all similar to Auron's finisher...maybe just two.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.195|192.249.47.195]] 20:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Overdrive is not Terra's finisher, it's the passive ability. It boosts strength when HP is low.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 21:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


== Stuff that needs doing ==
== Stuff that needs doing ==
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Please see [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Gauge|this]] and its talk page. Thanks! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 01:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Please see [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Gauge|this]] and its talk page. Thanks! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 01:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


==Huge non-KH request==
{{ShardofTruth|time=22:12, 25 January 2012 (UTC)|talk=Okay, I've done everything I can at this point, there are good and bad news. Firstly there is no general PSX game unpacker or one for this game specifically. All methods I tried were indirect ripping methods, which work fine for texture and videos, but not for 3D models. I tried several methods to aquire model data through different "3D screenshot" programs and interceptors, but this only works to a minimal extent for PSX games given the special way 3D models are rendered on the PS1 and how most emulators work. So this was a failure which leaves traditional screenshots as the only option to get images of the 3D models, unfortunately I don't have any savegames for this game anymore, so I can't get you images of these boss monsters.<br>
But I could get all sprites, you can find all isometric facing lower-left ones [http://www.mediafire.com/?i66oiopm2ipr8d8 here]. They don't have names, because I can't remember them (anymore). I also could get you the two overworld maps and the movies, if you want them. But the movies are really small, so screenshots from them wouldn't get any better than they are on the wiki now.}}
:WOOWWWW. Thanks![[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 05:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
{{ShardofTruth|time=15:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)|talk=I made another [http://www.mediafire.com/?cm3019dgy6wshsy major update] and I think I covered all your requests this time. I finally could fix my savegames after all these years and complete the game after all. So I named the sprites and updated a few, added the two server maps and movieshots to the archive. Then I thought by myself: Maybe I can make screenshots good enough to make up for the renders.<br>
The problem with this game is that the GUI is always overlapping portions of the models, so I had to make quite a lot of screenshots with a lot of different digimon partners to get good results. This took a long time, so please give me some credit if you upload them somewhere and please don't ask for more^^. Also, if you seen this game in action you'll know, that the PSX ability to render 3D images is really bad, so I don't be too disappointed with the image quality. Also because the first Galacticmon phase has this floating image behind it, it looks really bad without background, so I kept it.}}


== Sidebar ==
== List ==


[[User talk:Porplemontage#Linking]] --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
*[[Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance]]
*[[Dream Eater]]
**individual Dream Eater articles
*[[Reality Shift]]
*[[Flowmotion]]
*[[Link System]]
*[[True Organization XIII]]
*[[Sleeping Worlds]]
*[[Young Xehanort's Keyblade]]
*[[Flick Rush]]
*[[Another Guardian of Light]]
*[[Game:Young Xehanort]]
*[[Lea's Keyblade]]
*KH3D Keyblades
*KH3D worlds
**Characters


== Sockpuppet? ==
Updated
*[[Xehanort]]
*[[Maleficent]]
*[[Lea]]
*[[Xigbar]]
*[[Saïx]]
*[[Braig]]


Hey there, Kryten. I'm pretty sure [[User:HollowBastion109|this user]] is a sockpuppet of [[User:Organization101|this user]], since the naming convention is the same. Also, most of the edits to HollowBastion's userpage have been made by Organization101. So, do what you will with that. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 14:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
In progress:
*[[Deck Command (KH3D)]] ([[Talk:Deck Command (KH3D)]])
**individual ability articles


== Drive Form crap ==
Still to do:
 
*[[Dive Mode]]
What's your take on [[User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm|this thing]]? Never mind the fact it's not in a "finished" state, do we want to bring infoboxes back to the Drive Form articles?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:10, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
*[[Link Portal]]
:"Obtained", "Represents", "Level up by", "Mirror Description", and "Status Screen Description" are all going to be very wordy, more than comfortably fits inside an infobox.
*[[Ability Link]]
:I don't understand what "Boosts" is supposed to be. Does it mean what passive abilities the drives have? The "upgrades" that a Drive has all derive from its passive abilities, not any general increase to stats.
*Flick Rush cups
:"Synch Blade", "Form Color", "Growth Ability", and "Support characters" (if Support means "who gets eaten by the Drive") all seem like they could work in an infobox...but "form color" has no real significant within the games (and honestly seems like it's mostly our own OR), and Synch Blade and Support characters are not only gameplay stuff, but ''form the basis'' of the gameplay stuff, so there's really no way they ''wouldn't'' be redundant to the article itself, unlike the stats we normally keep in these things.
::My personal take is that infoboxes and tables work best when the subjects are setup so that each is very "fill in the blank". Forms, for the most part, do ''not'' work that way on the whole...although there are several bits that act like switches between the forms, such as Synch Blade, too much of the mechanics are either wordy and complex, or just not comparable—for example, that Anti Form cannot use magic or healing and cannot deactivate on command, that Wisdom Form doesn't use regular attacks, or that Valor Form doesn't use magic.
::Basically, my view is that infoboxes and tables are useful when they present the information more legibly than prose does. The few things that an infobox could handle for the Forms seem, to me, like they would be easier to read as they are now, in the lead. This seems to me like creating an infobox just so we can have an infobox.
:::That's my opinion, but consensus is as consensus does. I do not think this thing should be implemented without community approval, and if a forum or talk page is created to approve it, I'd like the above critique to be made available.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:33, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 
"Obtained" probably wouldn't be so bad in an infobox. I'm guessing "Boosts" is about whether Strength and/or Magic get boosted, but unless you're going to say by how much, it's too vague to mean anything (although there should be specific stat increases, shouldn't there?). "Form color" strikes me as something that should affect the appearance of the infobox, instead of being displayed. Aside from that, yeah, it does seem that the only real benefit is having a nice box to put the image in.
 
...Why don't we have the stat increases?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:51, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
:Unless I'm very mistaken, there aren't any. Wisdom Form has Magic Spice, Master Form has Master Magic, and Final Form has Crime & Punishment (I think), which are the things that actually power up the magical attacks, alongside a host of MP Haste and MP Rage-style abilities. I've never heard of it actually producing a boost to stats akin to equipped items.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 
Really? You don't see a quantified difference in stats in the Status menu?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
::I'll check the guide, but I've personally never heard or seen it producing a direct boost to stats. The ''passive abilities tied into it'' might, though.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:38, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


==Re: Admin position ==  
== SDCC ==


In case you don't have my page under watch, here's the message I left: All right, I understand. I guess it's my own fault since I didn't know what I could do around here. With school and everything, you guys are always editing ahead of me. When the wiki gets busy again, I do want admin position back to block the vandals. By the way, can you delte the message you left on the old wiki. I ask for it to be protected, so I can delete it myself.
Hey Kryten, it's that time of year where I go to San Diego Comic Con and ask you if there's anything in particular you want me to photograph or anything you'd like me to attend in particular. I'll be there on Saturday, I'm not exactly sure if there's anything that Square Enix is doing that's KH related, but let me know! {{User:Coldasfire/sig3}}06:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
:I wouldn't even begin to know. Maybe start a forum?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)


EDIT: Oh, one more thing! Can you please keep track of my editing? I don't keep up of how many edits I make since use the MonoBook and can't keep track of my edits. Let me know when I met the quota, please. I do want my rank back, and I promise to apply myself more (although I don't know since there's hardly anything I can do. I mostly good in grammar).--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
== Some concerns ==
:Sure, sure. We'll check back on the 9th, and any previous staff who made the cut this time will be repromoted.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:::'Kay, thanks. Hey, Koro, I was wondering. Can you teach how to redirect pages? I never done it before, even with all the wikis I edit at. Like, ever. I won't wanna have the other users to revert my edits because I remove the red links and caused them trouble.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


==Ideas for the KHII Walkthrough==
Okay, I would like to know how it's possible one person such as [[User:Byzantinefire|Byzantinefire]] to be able to have so many different IP addresses. Seriously, he's been banned on them so often, it's not even funny anymore :-/ --[[User:Doggieboy9|Doggieboy9]] ([[User talk:Doggieboy9|talk]]) 01:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
{{Uxie|time=13:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)|zoe=I know that you'll most likely turn this idea down, but I've thought of a good idea regarding the templates (other than the Table of Contents) for the walkthrough for KHII. My idea is that the colors on the templates be matched to suit the world (eg: blue and grey for Space Paranoids, brown for Port Royal). All we just do is type the intals of the world's name (eg: OC for Olympus Coliseum), and it will automatically take that color. If intals are not typed in, the colors will be the default type.
:Dunno. We have tools to prevent it now, tho.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


I only thought of this idea because the command box at the lower-left corner of the screen is different depending on the world you are at. But it's up to you.}}
== Email...delay...==
:That actually sounds brilliant, though I'd like to suggest: why don't we go whole hog and try and get the actual command box as a border for the templates? Could you talk to Erry, Soxra, and Shard, and see if that's something we could reasonably do, or whether the sprites just won't allow it?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.195|192.249.47.195]] 15:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Hey there. Sorry this is so very, very late. (Like since July >_<). I'm not sure what Facebook page you're talking about...I'm already a member of the one we created like five years ago.. Regardless. Sorry about that, this should fix it. {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 02:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
::I would, but I want to hear what KK has to say first. [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] 15:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


*Facepalm* Uxie, that IS Kryten. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 15:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
==Just checking...==
[[KHWiki:Pages for deletion#Should we delete these|Do you still want these pages deleted]]?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:44, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


{{Uxie|time=15:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)|luna=Cool. Ya got me fooled there, y'know.
==Demote==


I'll contact ErryK though the IRC and mention it to him. Soxra and Shard will be contacted as well. I'll write this down on a forum, since it looks pritty major.}}
I'm sad to see another user go, considering how small the community is, but I know that you haven't be on lately because of RL stuff. Before you go, though, you need to revoke your user rights. Neumz isn't around, either, and only bcrats can demote other users. Just giving you a reminder.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


==Heads Up==
== Congratulations! ==
{{Uxie|time=05:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)|angela=123456789sora‎ created another account for himself, called Daniel. Please check with it.}}


== Name-spelling refs ==
You're now the wiki's very first janitor. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 09:57, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
:Yussss.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 09:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


{{Maggosh|flint=Hey, I was asking you in the IRC. You didn't answer.}}
== "removed just a ton of purposeful policy violation" ==
{{KrytenKoro|My account was still logged in somehow.}}
Just so you know, I didn't purposefully violate any policy by adding links to drafts.


== Good Tidings ==
My last edit to the KH3 template was 14:51. TheSilentHero raised concern about whether or not we should link to drafts on 16:45.


Hello!  You don't know who I am, and roughly 20 minutes ago, I didn't exactly know who you were either!  I came from the Gamefaqs message boards, and after certain little...situation (catch all the hi-larity here: http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:What_to_do_Here), and thanks to a few good members, I learned of your Wiki.  The one that ''does things proper-like.''  Previously venting that I'd make my own, this comes as an awesome happenstance. I'm probably coming off as a real weirdo by doing this, but I'd like to offer my services! :3  From anything to graphics design, to a more professional editing format (I'm actually kind of loquacious...:X), to even getting this KHWiki more exposure, and less to The Keyhole.  I actually have a few friends that can make that happen.  :)  So, if there's anything you need me to help out with, I'll be more than happy to!  --[[User:PitchStiller|PitchStiller]] 03:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I hope you're simply misinformed, as I appreciate honesty. If there was a "no linking to drafts" rule, then I wasn't aware of it. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 19:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
:We're actually trying to keep the Keyhole as the "fandom" wing of the whole compendium, so...I mean we don't hate the Keyhole. Regardless, we would love your help in building the encyclopedia portion!
:For one, we'd love to build more relationships with other fansites and forums. We also need a lot of help getting the item, enemy, and ability articles to our standard. The biggest thing on my own plate, I think, is getting the Enemy template finished for BbS and Re:coded. There's a description of what I need help with [[Template talk:Enemy|here]], and if you or your friends know Japanese, that's basically what I need help with. I have the ultimania, and understand most of how the bestiary works, but there are a few stats that I'm having trouble with and a native reader could really help me out. Also, we have an [[KHWiki:IRC|IRC channel]], if you ever want to talk in real time with me or the community.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


== Game ==
== Why people saying Famitsu confirmed Aquanort ==


Hello, I was just wondering which enemies are supposed to have Game: pages. For my merge articles, I have [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Behemoth Behemoth] and [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Behemoth_(Boss) Behemoth (Boss)], but here there's only a [[Behemoth]] page, so I was wondering if I merge all three articles into one, or create a Game article for the Behemoth. Thanks for any help! :) {{User:FinalRest/Sig2}}08:52, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
People translated the yellow box on this image from Famitsu, which I'll show you where the translation came of 'confirmation' came from, which could be why are treating it as 'confirmation'.:
:As I understand it, all strategy and gameplay ("Playing as Riku", etc.) information will be split into the "Game:" namespace. The basic setup is that Game:, Card:, Gallery:, etc., are no longer ''related'' pages—the suite template basically turns the whole set into one large "super-article", with the namespace variations as enhanced sections of the page. Right now, the suite functionality doesn't quite display that as fully as it should, but I am working with a friend of mine to figure out the code to get the functionality fully running.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


This is for a non-character enemy, so do it onto the only Behemoth article. If we decide to split the article at a later point, we'll deal with it then. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 00:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgPT0MjW0AUGrxb.jpg {{unsigned|65.96.79.246}}


Thanks for the help guys. :) {{User:FinalRest/Sig}} 08:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
== Warning 1 ==


== Keyhole links ==
{{Warning|reason=hostile behavior towards other users, false accusations of bad faith|{{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 18:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)}}
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=18:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)|TRONYellow=Unfortunately, Kryten, I don't find that your behavior has been very helpful in de-escalating the hostility regarding the KH3 navbox template. Although there are various instances where you were more civil towards the anonymous IP, there were also plenty instances where you failed to do so. Even though he/she is being stubborn, that of course doesn't mean you can be so.


Pages with multiple infoboxes get multiple sidebar links to the Keyhole. How are we handling that?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:03, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


== Keyhole stuff ==
Specifically, you falsely accused the IP of bad faith this week. However, I've reviewed the edits, and you did not revert all the IP's edits. That to me shows that their edits are not necessarily of bad faith, simply part of them are based in their own stubbornness. In fact, you re-added part of an edit you had reverted from this IP. False accusations of bad faith are, well, bad; one cannot assume the true intentions of an editor simply because they're insisting on their view point, even if it's against site policy and they know it. There's a significant difference between disagreeing with site policy and acting with malicious intent. As explained on Wikipedia regarding good faith, "editors should not attribute the actions being criticized to malice unless there is specific evidence of such." ([[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|<font color="#FFFFFF">Wikipedia:Assume Good Faith</font>]]) So, this is your warning on the matter. Don't engage in disruptive or accusatory behavior with other users; it's easier to take action against disruptive users when you yourself are "clearly acting appropriately throughout."}}
May I have your opinion in [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:The_Keyhole%27s_Purpose this forum], please?--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 18:36, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:[https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:KH3&diff=741427&oldid=741381 Is this the edit you're talking about]?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)


== "Then, one day...I got in." ==
== Apology ==


{{Maggosh|nathan=I did it, man. I ripped the Special trailer in HD. It's biodigital jazz, man.}}
Sorry about that. I wasn't paying close enough attention. The film seemed to frame the green-haired character as the Player, but looking at the intro, he has brown hair. Also, sorry about posting those background removal requests. I'm still kinda new. It has been fixed, however. -- {{User:Raitomidnight555/Sig}} 14:01, 03 July 2018 (CT)
:Dude, that's okay. I was just correcting it, not chastising you.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


I bow to you, sir. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 06:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
==Re:Wikia==
I saw it in the Keyhole yesterday. I had always feared that there would be trouble because of the acquisition of fandom. Byzantinefire would have to know, because he had been active here. In the keyhole they should definitely insert a template during the upload with the summary, so like here. In the german Kingdom Hearts Wiki I add the link for files to KHWiki.com. I know that the cleaning of pictures is a hard work. I am not angry about you. :) Since Fandom killed the monobook skin, I'm a little annoyed about it.


== Interwiki link ==
Now you also get the portable info box forced, and many functions in the old templates are no longer working. I wish the best for your project here, because you have the best source of information here. Sorry for my bad english. I am a grammar devil. >:D [[User:Pain88|Pain88]] ([[User talk:Pain88|talk]]) 13:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


[[Terra-Xehanort]]'s link to the Keyhole.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 19:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I can not play KHUX right now, I don't have the time. Sorry.<br>
At the moment I am still trying to find information for KHII for the german KH Wiki. Since our articles there have to be revised again. Since SQEX Germany had also made various translations of the names in the abilitys, it makes it difficult for me to compare the information here with the english name of the abilitys. It was hard for me to find the abilities for Re:Com with the german names and to compare them here with the english ones. But I finally finished that. But I'm too lazy to create the articles for the abilitys. :) with the best regards [[User:Pain88|Pain88]] ([[User talk:Pain88|talk]]) 16:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


== Unsourced stuff ==
Yes, this Fandom employee had undone it yesterday and if I change it again, I risk a block. They also ran a bot that also removed other links to here. Images that ShardofTruth created, have at least some meta-data, that contains that the images only for KHWiki.com is. Fandom is becoming more and more arrogant. They have also bought up the old domain name for our old independent KH Wikia. Fandom considers this wiki here as competition. Jimmy Wales and his staff are all about profits. If they overdo it or take over one-to-one articles from you, they would have to report it because of DMCA's violation via their special contact. At the moment we just have to keep watching the keyhole. [[User:Pain88|Pain88]] ([[User talk:Pain88|talk]]) 21:38, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
:Honestly...we tried being polite and friendly, and asking them to display basic civility, honesty, and decency. They have to know by now that their behavior is what keeps chasing away dedicated editors, so...fuck, if they want to chase away dedicated editors and spit on those trying to reach out an olive branch, who are we to stop them? Maybe someday they'll figure out why they keep having to stick more and more ads into the sites in order to maintain their bottom line.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)


Is from [http://www.4gamer.net/games/113/G011346/20120229024/ here]. Seems it might be official, but I can't say for sure. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
==The Experiment is an Heartless==
Hi, sorry for bothering you here, but I see nobody see what I write in the discussion page of The Experiment (https://www.khwiki.com/Talk:The_Experiment), but I discovered another thing that proof he is a Heartless without any doubt. How already was sayed in the page, ingame in pause menu he is called Heartless and in the TCG he is classified as a Heartless, but there is another proof. If the Experiment is killed with Wisdom Form (that gain EXP ONLY if you kill Heartless), the WF gain EXP from The Experiment, I proved this with other bosses, I killed Xigbar with Final Form (since gain EXP killing Nobodies) and it gain EXP, and I tried too to kill the Hostile Program with WF thinking it was a Heartless, but the WF DON'T gain any EXP from the Hostile Program, but from The Experiment and other Heartless boss it does, so, this proof without any doubt he is a Heartless, otherwise the WF will not gain any EXP from him.--[[Special:Contributions/186.237.40.21|186.237.40.21]] 10:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
:I'd like to confirm what you're claiming for myself, but I don't think we can say "without any doubt" -- there are other parts of the game that do ''not'' treat it as a Heartless, like the journal. It does fade away similar to a Pureblood Heartless, moreso than Scar did. I believe it would be some sort of pseudo-Heartless, similar to how the Soul Eater is a pseudo-Keyblade.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
::The Journal just placed The Experiment in "character section" thing that already happen to others Heartless (Ansem), even Nobodies (all Organization, Naminé), Unversed (Vanitas Sentiment) and Dream Eaters (Riku and Anti Black Coat), so, be in Character section don't mean "he is not a Heartless/Nobody/Unversed/Dream Eater) and the game never say "he is not a Heartless", neither his creation method means nothing. Shadow Sora and AntiSora was created in a different way from others Heartless, but still they are considered Heartless, and all proofs say he is a Heartless. About the pseudo-Keyblade I never understand, we saw others objects that was used to became/summon the Keyblade (Struggle Bat in 1st and 4th day of Roxas in KH2 and Wooden Stick of Roxas in 6th day in KH2, and I doubt they are pseudo-Keyblade), and the Soul Eater was called Keyblade just in KH Mobile, and is not even canon that game, in any other official source it is never considered a Keyblade, in 358 is classified as a sword, and in none game anybody consider it a Keyblade.--[[Special:Contributions/186.237.40.21|186.237.40.21]] 18:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
:::The Soul Eater thing is referring to Mobile, the Soul Eater's demonstrated abilities compared to dialogue/reports in Days and BbS, and statements from Nomura. That is why I called it a pseudo-Keyblade.
:::The Journal clearly delineates the bulk of Heartless and Nobodies from the rest of the characters, and except for these very three in question, the only ones it leaves on the character lists are those that retained their human form and personality. It does not mean it is ''definitely'' not a Heartless, but it's not a point in its favor.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
::::I think Journal add to characters the H/N/U/DE that have a huge role in the story of at least 1 world. The Experiment is quite important in Halloween Town story in KH2 secon visit, so they considered it as a true character even if he is a Heartless. For the Soul Eater, ok, but since is pseudo I don't think should be listed with others Keyblades, but this is a my opinione, and don't make part of the The Experiment's race thing.--[[Special:Contributions/170.244.153.233|170.244.153.233]] 21:32, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


:[http://images.khinsider.com/Kingdom%20Hearts%20Dream%20Drop%20Distance/Screenshots/4Gamer%283:4%29/4GTG38.jpg GOOD GOD WHAT THE F*** IS THAT THING] --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:57, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
== Image moving ==
:Looks like the Hebi Tokage and some kind of winged frog Nightmare. Dream Eater page![[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 19:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
If you're going to be moving a lot of images to different filenames, please remember to update it on the articles/galleries. It's wiki etiquette. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 09:17, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


== More template-stuff ==
I have another question. If 350px is the default size for infobox images, why is Mickey, Donald and Goofy, among many others, 250px? [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 20:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
:I honestly have no idea. It looks like it was changed at some point between now and Halloween 2012. I've gone in and fixed Mickey's.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


[[Template:InfoboxOrg13]]. Do you have a plan for merging that? It'd be easy to add the extra fields, but it has a different color scheme and (very) slightly different layout. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 19:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
== Recent edits ==
I strongly disagree with the removal of talk sprites in Galleries. They are official art designed for the game, ripped by fans, just like the Days talk sprites. It's a nonsensical double standard why Days talk sprites are allowed and not COM. If you use the argument "they're also used as someone's personal textbox", I don't see why it means we can not allow them on the Galleries. There are many instances where pics are on both mainspace articles and used on people talk pages, in their templates, etc. It does not have to be "one or the other" and there is no harm them in Galleries. I view it as overt pedanticism hurting the wiki and preventing official art from being archived and easily available.


:Semi-related topic: any character that's also a boss has all their "characters" categories replaced with "bosses" categories.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:56, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
If a character is exclusive to Union X, they should not be in the standard X category, or we're being dishonest. We should specify differences between X and Union X. Unfortunately, I haven't played either so I'm not entirely familiar with who's in which, but from my understanding, Lauriam and Brain are not in the original X.
::Fixed. I had been going about the game characters thing completely wrong. My current solution will place all characters, enemies, and bosses within the character category for its game; if we decide that it is not acceptable to place minor enemies in those, then I will need to add a "charno" parameter which will need to be hand-applied to each article that we want removed. I don't think I can have it sort by spec, because if we decide that things like the Shadow don't count, then we'd probably decide that the Darkside doesn't either.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


Is HBRG working for you? Because it's not working for me... --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Larxene slapping Naminé is also a perfect illustration of her "cold", "ruthless" and "uncaring" personality mentioned in the paragraph right beside it. Even if you disagree, you did not archive the pic in Larxene's gallery. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 14:27, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
:It is now. I forgot I had told it to convert to lowercase, but the switches still had uppercase letters.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


==Misspelled names==
I don't know why you insist on having misspelled names near the beginning of their article since you never left an edit summary. Mistranslations and misspellings occur all the time in media, in some memo or subtitles or whatever. It makes the article look tacky, as if the developers of the series are incompetent. It doesn't make sense to include every misspelling at the beginning. On Yuffie's article, the misspelling of "Yufeie" is also in the Trivia. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 17:35, 23 October 2018 (UTC)


Could you do the infoboxes for [[Mickey Mouse]], [[Naminé]], [[Moogle]] and [[Riku Replica]]? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 03:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
==Depths of Darkness==
Why do you consider the Depths of Darkness a "subworld" of Destiny Islands, instead of just another area in the Dark World, like Castle Town and the Forest of Thorns? Sure, it gets its own keyword that flashes, but so does Forest of Thorns:


== AWB ==
:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHEqEJsAV1E&feature=youtu.be&t=5590
:https://youtu.be/aHEqEJsAV1E?t=3525


[[Forum:KHWikiBot Request Board]]  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 04:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
And why is it considered a subworld, instead of simply an area/room? At 1:33:20, you can see the player save in the Depths of Darkness, and the Dark World icon still appears in the top right and in the save point. My understanding is that the Depths of Darkness is simply connected to the remnants of Destiny Islands, as opposed to being an actual part of it. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 16:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
:Get on the IRC, dood, I don't understand.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


Two main points. One, it's a convenient place to list what needs to get AWB'd if you aren't doing it immediately, and two, use KHWikiBot so as to not overload the RC. (Add your username to the edit summary if you do use it)  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 06:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
== Marluxia ==
:Is why I asked you to get on the IRC, because I don't remember the bot password.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


Oooookay... Starts with "Bo-". Does that help? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 13:17, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Why hesitate changing Marluxia's render? It's been update to KH3 for Maleficent and Pete already. I get it with Sora cause of the new outfit, but Marluxia looks the same. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 22:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
==Template:Suite==
:Those are also wrong.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Is it possible we could start applying the "suite2" version of Template:Suite to articles? I really am sick of seeing that eyesore that is the current version, and I think the second looks just fine on [[Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]]. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 22:54, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd like a reply to this, por favor. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 14:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:::As I've said before, we're still trying to get the js to work.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


== Apologies ==
== Long time, no see, amirite? ==


Fix what you need to. --[[Special:Contributions/68.230.252.5|68.230.252.5]] 07:10, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Hope you love the game. And hope everything is well, here and outside of here too. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 18:52, 28 January 2019 (UTC)


== "entelechies" ==
== Re: Japanese ==


Is this the new "official-unoffocial" term, complete with capitalization ala "Somebody"?  Or is it just a generality in the vein of complete beings, wholes, primes?  --[[Special:Contributions/68.230.252.5|68.230.252.5]] 07:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
天へ続く階段 ''is'' the Japanese text for ''Scala ad Caelum''. It's right there in the menu. Only Xehanort calls it スカラ・アド・カエルム during a cutscene. [[User:Suzaku|Suzaku]] ([[User talk:Suzaku|talk]]) 20:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)


:Generality. It gets capitalized only at the beginning of a sentence. Hopefully we'll never have to deal with "official-unofficial" terms ever again. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 16:47, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:Probably that, then, though both do mean "Stairway to Heaven" and it's the sole room of the world. Either way, it should be スカラ・アド・カエルム not スカラアドカエルム. [[User:Suzaku|Suzaku]] ([[User talk:Suzaku|talk]]) 21:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)


== Frigger frag ==


{{Maggosh|flint=[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Main_page_and_other_issues]}}
==KH Info==
Just to let you know thanks to the recent videos on Youtube, I was able to get access to the end credits of Kingdom Hearts III. Out of the returning characters aside from Master Xehanort, other new voice actors are also for Vexen's JP voice actor (due to the previous voice actor passing away in 2010), and new English voice actors for Hayner, Pence, and Olette. Just want to give you the info since the day of the International release of Kingdom Hearts III has arrived. Let me know if want any links and I'll make sure to help you avoid any spoilers if you want (I don't mind spoilers, but I prefer not to spoil it for anybody) -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 03:05, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
:The links should go in the castlist on the main article.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
::I did not understand what you meant but I did move them to [[Talk:Kingdom Hearts III]], which you can view them from there and you have my permission if you want to move it and have fun with playing the game. On another matter, I updated the party member list due to watching the leaks on Youtube. Namely all the main characters that fight alongside Sora, excluding Terra will do this in certain boss fights and the player can also directly play as Riku and Aqua for certain situations. Pretty much I knew about all of this for the past few days but held back out of respect for the International release date. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 16:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


== Just so we're clear... ==
== World infoboxes ==


Am I cleared to create [[Sleeping Worlds]]? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 04:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
I made a thread about this in the forums, but everyone's been ignoring it lol.  Though to be completely fair, there's so much stuff going on at the moment that it's totally understandable that it flew under the radar. So I'm gonna bug you about it!  I want to make a very minor change to the world infoboxes, so that they display the world logo by default rather than the world icon.  Unfortunately, I honestly don't know how to do this or what it would take. I'm not suggesting any other changes.  The reason why I'm insisting on this is because world logos is something that literally every world page has in common, while many lack official world icons. As a result when someone enters one of these pages, all they see on the infobox is a missing red link.  Sure you can obviously click on the logo to pull it up, but again, it just looks better if it's already there when you enter it.  That's the only change I want to make to the infoboxes, nothing else. The other thing I want to suggest is also to create some sort of default N/A (or just No Image) icon for worlds that don't have one.  Destiny Islands from BBS comes to mind, as it's just a fuzzy white ball. Just something so we don't have dead image links populating the infoboxes.  But that's secondary to my initial suggestion.  Do you think we can do this?  --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 06:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:The infobox is coded to prevent redlinks from showing up, where are you seeing them?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
:Sure.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::Fixed them. It should now only show images that are actually there.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
::Alright, I'm on it. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 05:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Aha lol.  That makes sense.  It was an error!  Thanks for fixing it.  :)  But all said and done, I still advocate for the logos displaying by default for consistency's sake, you know?  --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 17:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I would disagree with that, as the world icons are much more illustrative of the actual world. The logo is just fancy words.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:36, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::But again, the logos are something they all have in common.  It's something that we have for every world.  We don't have world icons for The Final World, Scala ad Caelum, the Dark World, Hundred Acre Wood - what else lol?  I'm just saying we should go for a little consistency. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 19:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
== Why delete the Black Guard page? ==
::::::[[End of Sea|We do not have logos for every world]]. Regardless, the world icons are more useful for the purpose of illustration than the logos are.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
Sorry to burst your bubble but why did you delete and remove every info on the Black Guards page, I was trying to include info on them. [[User:Disneykh95]] [[User talk:Disneykh95]] 5:54, March 25 2012 (UTC)
 
== IRC ==
 
Ping [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 21:33, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 
== So, make the call ==
 
Nix Xigbar's 3D section? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 16:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 
== Thanks!! ==
 
{{MEX|sig=Look Sharp!!!|text=Hello, do you remember me? Guy, I want to thank you for all your help with the Drive Form project. My internet connection was with some problems, so I wasn't able to enter in the wiki very much. Every time I entered there wasn't any changes to the template and now, it was in other place. I thought it was removed, but when I followed the links and saw that it was aproved, I almost jumped out of the chair, just of happiness!!! Thanks very much for all your help and I"M BACK (not much like before but I am!!!). One more thing. The 1st April joke got me. Like we would laugh here in Brazil:rsrsrsrsrsrs!!! See you later!!}}
 
==Odd Problem==
Something is wrong here-> [http://www.khwiki.net/Special:UncategorizedFiles click]. I fixed the Keyblade image, but the other two do not exist, at least not anymore. I've searched through the deletion log and was unable to find either. I also used "What Links Here" and couldn't find any links to the images. In short, I don't know why they are in the uncategorized section. Even if they link to an article, if they were deleted, they shouldn't be on the uncategorized files page. Thanks!--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 16:10, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 
==I'm sorry for the mistake==
KrytenKoro it was wrong for what i done on the grid page i just want to put in the year it came out just like in the other pages did for these worlds. (E.G Prankster's Paradise, La Cite Des cloches) So please reconsider I am not trying to be a violating troll i was just putting it there to find out what year it came out and please were cool and unblock The Grid page so i won't do this again ever. [[User:Disneykh95]] [[User talk:Disneykh95]] 5:31, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
== KH3D ==
 
Yes, I got the stuff from the wikipedia page, but I didn't notice the refs being killed until you sent me the message. Sorry about that. I was just trying to tidy the stuff up. :P [[User:EnglishJoker|EnglishJoker]] 17:07, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 
==STOP IT RIGHT NOW==
A: I am not violating the wiki. B: Julius is a Secret Boss End of Story. C: I am so sick and Tired of everyone including you being so reluctant and rude that what all certain admins are in a wiki and D Is for Delusional which is what you are in the head. :X
 
With granted permission, and permission to express my opinion, I think it might be good if we let this guy on a little break. He's seem really angry right now, and no matter what anyone says, it's not going to quell his temper. I think a small break might help him cool down. If you haven't block him, I was wondering if I could, since it might be better if I do it since I haven't had any conflicts with him. I'm talking like a full ban or block. Maybe a week would do for him? I don't wanna get him any angerier than he already is and have him lash at my fellow, respected users.
 
I'm kinda still new with this admin status, so I feel like I should before I make a decision, since you are one of the more experienced users here.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:You can do it if you want. As a caveat, though, I'm pretty sure we still allow unblocks if they work through the Heartless Manufactory. So, you can totally block him for two months, guilt free, but it's your decision.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
::I could propose it to him, in case he wants it. But if his temper doesn't cool, a little break could be good for him.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
==Article Sceenshots==
If "we have ALWAYS allowed screenshots in order to portray the scenes covered in the synopsis," then how come there are next to none in every article which requires a plot synopsis (characters, games, etc.)? I could see page formatting and text break-up being reasons, but that would mean we should set up some sort of synopsis screenshot policy to avoid potential conflicts with these issues... - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 02:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:Just because people haven't been adding them. It's absolutely allowed and [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Soundwave_%28Animated%29 recommended].{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
==Xiggie's Talk Bubble Templates==
Do you by chance know anything about why former contributor Xiggie is not registered all-of-a-sudden on the Wiki? The reason I ask is everyone with a talk bubble who used his custom-coding on the Keyhole and continued to here now has a bunch of red links in his or her template, thus it has spread throughout the Wiki (if you search "User:Xiggie," it says "User: Xiggie is not registered"). I see no problem with simply transferring the coding to my own userspace and fixing my template accordingly, but for the sake of everyone else and possibly to save myself some unnecessary work, is there anything that can be done to fix this? - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:46, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
::My apologies; the issue has been resolved. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:48, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 
==Gummi Mission Strategy Sections==
What do you think? [[User:Xion4ever/Gummi Missions|This Asteroid Sweep]] versus [[Asteroid Sweep|what we are currently using]]. The only difference is that I added a strategy section for all three missions.
 
EDIT 22:38, 6 May 2012 (UTC): [[User:Xion4ever/Gummi Missions/Stardust Sweep|Stardust Sweep]] added. If the strategy sections on both articles look good to you, I will add them in to the respective articles and start on the remaining missions.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 15:13, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 
== Some finish command business ==
 
What does [http://www.khwiki.net/index.php?title=Heat_Slash&oldid=454878 "Redirect link to the Finish Command"] mean?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 20:57, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 
== Interview Page ready. ==
 
The source page talking about Kairi and Riku's keyblades is ready at the talk page of Destiny's Embrace. Just thought you would like to know XD
 
==Staff==
Kind of surprised this hasn't happened already, but could you please remove my staff rights? I don't think I'm going to be able to dedicate myself to this site like a staff member should. Thank you! {{User:FinalRest/Sig}} 06:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 
== Submitted for your approval ==
 
{{Maggosh|nathan=[[Form:Sora]]
 
Also need a dispute settled as per The Grid form name.}}
 
== Retort ==
 
"I really don't see how it's so absurd for the encyclopedia to require clear and reliable sources."  Do you really, ''REALLY'' want me to start listing off the amount of made-up, un-sourced bullshit on this wiki that you are seemingly just dandy with?  ...I didn't think so.  Besides, why do you assume I'm in that whole "anti-KHWiki" gang?  If I was...I wouldn't be making legitimate edits, now would I?  Perhaps you should look at my edit history before making assumptions?  Hm?  ''I think that would be quite super''.--[[Special:Contributions/68.230.252.5|68.230.252.5]] 23:36, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 
==Moogle Shop Questions==
{{Xion4ever|time=21:54, 20 May 2012 (UTC)|talktext=Okay. When you said "Add split versions for each Shop --separate tables for each," did you mean this: [[User:Xion4ever/Moogle Shop Drafts]]?}}
 
== What does this mean? ==
 
From the explanation of Curaga in KH:
 
相手の最大HPと同じ(=HPを全回復)
 
--{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 03:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 
== "He's still saying that he provides the voice of a young xehanort. A young Xehanort is a young xehanort." ==
 
He says he provides the voice of a young Xehanort ''in a game that isn't out yet''. Aside from the fact the KH series does not always use the same voice actors for the same characters, you are twisting what he says to suit your own needs. This is incorrect and very unprofessional. I am removing it again. [[Special:Contributions/174.88.14.63|174.88.14.63]] 16:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 
== Bleach wiki still sucks ==
 
{{Maggosh|flint=[http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Maggosh#Moving_Pages]}}
 
== Sora chasing Dream ==
 
Sora ask Braig that is he the one who show him the illusion but he said it was Sora's dreams or heart that showed him not Braig. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 22:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Leaving? ==
 
{{LightRoxas|lucky=Please tell me you aren't actually leaving?
 
I guess the day had to come sooner or later, and as you've always said, if this place doesn't give you enjoyment then you shouldn't stay. Still, it feels awful to see you go, just because you've been such a staple to this place. You've got nearly as many edits as most the other contributors combined! And yet, we can't expect you to stick here forever. Perhaps it is better that you leave now, before anything too horrid happens.
 
Please, don't let the bullcrap get to you. The Internet can be a ruddy awful place, and don't take anything too seriously. Don't leave like DTN did - leave on your own terms.
 
We love you - take care.}}
:Thanks for the sentiment, but please don't leave me any goodbye messages. I'm not trying to get any sympathy here, I just need to get away.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:08, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 
== Captions ==
 
[http://www.khwiki.net/index.php?title=Sora&curid=31&diff=561423&oldid=561408 You have two choices], take your pick.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 05:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 
== Promotional artwork names ==
Kryten, could you check if the [[User:ShardofTruth/Promotional_Artwork|translations I made from the Ultimanias]] are correct? I'd like to rename these images. Also you may have not noticed that I uploaded your images, you can find the links at the bottom of my talk page. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 20:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 
== Sorry ==
 
Sorry about that, you and the rest of you don't have to be so biased here. [[User:DisneyGirkeybladewielder95|DisneyGirkeybladewielder95]] 22:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Look i admit I was wrong for calling you biased and everyone and greatly I'm very very sorry for what i did, for real. [[User:DisneyGirkeybladewielder95|DisneyGirkeybladewielder95]] 23:46, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
== And THAT... ==
 
{{neumannz|time=20:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)|happy=And '''''THAT''''', Mr. KK, is why I am '''''NEVER''''' letting you leave this place.}}
 
== IRC. Now. ==
 
It's pretty freaking important. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 22:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 
Err, yeah, I wasn't online at that time. Did everything turn out okay? {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 18:10, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:Will do. And next I see you on the IRC we'll talk about the suite + icon, for actual this time. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 05:20, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 
== World of Nothingness ==
 
I believe it is not the dragon itself. According to Erry, the beginning of the area with the crazy-arse skyscrapers is called "The World of Nothing - End's Beginning".  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 18:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 
== key items ==
 
Will we be covering all the key items on one page, or will we be splitting b/t games? Same question re: key item categories, if applicable.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 04:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
:If it is best to cover it on a specific page, like the mushroom items, then it should be covered on that page. The Highwind supplies could perhaps be covered on a dedicated article for the raft (it reappears in KH3D, doesn't it? We should definitely have an article for the initial plot thread). Miscellaneous stuff can probably be thrown on one page; didn't they scale it way back in the later games, anyway?[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 06:28, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Not in Recoded they didn't. Hell, between the inklings, the ending cards, and questploration items alone there are too many.
 
Ok, but I believe we should still have categories, even if they would primarily be used on redirects.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 12:43, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
:Absolutely.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== Unimportant question ==
 
I have some kind of question. I recently did an edit at Axel's page. You reverted it and also answered my question. Then when I looked at my edit, apparently it shows that I edited something about Axel's voice actors and several other things. The only thing I did was remove those gaps, so why when I look at my edit does it show me doing more than what I did? I know I only removed those gaps. An idea what happened here? It isn't important but I'm curious. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 20:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
:I dunno. I assumed you copy-pasted from the Keyhole, though I guess you could have edited from a previous rev or something.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== Wiki Coding ==
 
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 11:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)|confused=what coding does this Wiki use? I think it may be html but I'm not so sure. I just feel knowing this would come in handy for the future in some way.}}
==Emergency IRC Meeting==
My apologies, Kryten. I just returned from an extended vacation at Walt Disney World and forgot to make any mention of this before I left because I was in such a rush. Again, my sincerest apologies. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 04:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
::All right, Maggosh told me basically what happened at the "emergency meeting". And now I'm @#$%ing annoyed that I missed it! You have no idea what it would have meant for me to have been there! If we could discuss what happened in greater detail via IRC some time, that'd be great (I started to discuss it with maggosh, but then my computer freaked out, and I lost contact with him). - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 05:10, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== This afternoon ==
 
If you can get on the IRC this afternoon around 4:30 or 4:45, I'd really appreciate it. I'll be giving Bastion a call around then and will more than likely need backup.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 15:41, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
:I will not be available until 7:00 EST.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 18:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 
Get on as soon as you can.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 
:On a possibly related note, how do you feel about taking a trip to NY for the 27 and 28? Hint hint.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== Renaming the Dream Eaters ==
Would photograph's of the in-game journal suffice? --[[User:Bluesilver|Bluesilver]] ([[User talk:Bluesilver|talk]]) 19:29, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
{{ShardofTruth|time=19:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)|talk=Bluesilver could you at least make a photo from the Dream Eater list where we can see more than one name? Like this?<br>
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/1266/1234rh.png<br>
I don't think you or Wind Prism make this stuff up, it's just the way how the confirmation process on this wiki works.}}
 
== Screenshot? ==
Uh, should I take pictures of my game? --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 20:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
:As long as other editors can verify the text you add through the image, sure. It can be a cellphone pic, anything.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
::My phone can't do better than this, though: [http://i49.tinypic.com/2wew54x.jpg (Necho Cat profile)] [http://i49.tinypic.com/14jw5l2.jpg (Queen Buzzerfly profile)]. --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 21:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
:Sorry, will do. I just assumed that by now all Europeans who pre-ordered it had picked it up. (At least here, pre-order means you get it as soon as it reaches the store, whatever it's release date or not.) --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 14:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
::It still hasn't released in America, though, so the same rules apply as when we only had the Japanese release: screenshots to verify everything. Once it releases in America, it's all fair game.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:::Do I put the screenshots on the talk pages or do I link them on the edit summary? --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 15:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, those were my mistakes. I do double check using the preview option, but it seems I didn't notice them anyway. --[[User:Wind Prism|Wind Prism]] ([[User talk:Wind Prism|talk]]) 18:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== IRC ==
 
He's here. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 01:56, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 
EDIT: To make it frank, if you don't get on in the next 15 minutes you can't go. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 01:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== Don't want to rush you or anything... ==
 
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)|default=but how's that ultimata for compiled commands coming along?}}
 
== Sorry ==
 
Sorry dude. [[User:Rhythm Theif|Rhythm Theif]] ([[User talk:Rhythm Theif|talk]]) 21:35, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== You Lucky Dog ==
 
{{LightRoxas|text=Seriously though, have fun at the launch event. Wish I could be there.}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Yeah, have fun, Kryten! :) Will this be recorded, though? I wanna see what happens because I can't be there. Plus, I always wondered what you looked like.}}
 
{{TheFifteenthMember|time{{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 01:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)|happy=I agree, have fun. I don't even have my 3DS yet!}}
 
== Song titles confirmed in correct order ==
 
{{RockSlicer| time= 22:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)| text= I got One for All and All for One confirmed as Field and Battle, respectively by Erry.}}
 
== Project:Images ==
 
{{EO|time=03:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)|thinking=So my internet connection is a total fail, and I'm unable to return to the IRC. As such, I'll just message you with what I was going to say here:
 
So "Project:Images" is to accomplish the following, in my mind:
*Add more screenshots to articles/the Wiki to better illustrate what is described in an actual article (this includes ensuring all images are properly named/categorized).
*Purging the "Images" and "Betterpic" templates from as many articles as possible by adding what they request to said article. Also purge the "Badname" template from as many images as possible by renaming them to something more appropriate (you usually seem to be the one who adds this; not sure what you're looking for).
*Continuation of Project .png - all images must be .png (save for .gif animations).
*Continuation of Project Transparent - all renders of characters, weapons, enemies, et cetera must be given transparent backgrounds if this has not already been done.
*Captions, CAPTIONS, <big>CAPTIONS</big>! Replacing all "blah" captions such as "Terra using Transcendence" with "Transcendence summons several spherical spatial distortions, then expands them to cover the battlefield."
 
Honestly, I have a few issues with the captions part of things:
 
*If an image winds up with no caption because the caption itself is redundant to the image (such as "Terra using Transcendence"), it really shouldn't be a thumbnail because the image doesn't need a pretty pink frame. At the same time, if it's just sitting there on the article like it was just plopped there without any thought, it's just as much of an unnecessary eyesore. 
*For a gallery of images such as the Mythril items, I'm really not a fan of just saying "Mythril Gem" and leaving it. "A Mythril Gem" has better sound appeal, but this doesn't help us because then the whole period vs. non-period controversy continues. Wish we could find some sort of middle-ground. How do we plan to handle the captions in article image galleries (such as "Gallery:Terra")? Obviously a heading that reads "Renders of Terra in ''Birth by Sleep''" means just that, but having only one image possess a caption while we assume the blatant truth that every image in that section is a render of Terra from ''Birth by Sleep'' and don't give the rest captions seems inconsistent and improper to me. What if an image needs a caption to illustrate what is depicted but cannot necessarily be transformed into this lengthy sentence because it's simply ridiculous-sounding ("A Soldier as it appears in Halloween Town" vs. "In Halloween Town, Soldiers gain a darker coloration, like all other Heartless")? In a case such as that, I don't think an image can go without an accompanying, short caption. Simply stating what an image is with no "." just looks unfinished to me. I guess that's why I've been adding the periods; traditional formatting excuse + generally accepted, non-disputed personal preference.
*Captions that illustrate scenes from the game to illustrate the articles' story sections should be ACCURATE to the scene they depict (wording should convey the events of the scene; Ansem doesn't really tackle Riku in my opinion in ''KH3D'' to prevent Sora's rescue; it's more like he just jumps on top of him). The captions should also convey a sense of what's happening at the present, right before, and possibly right after the screenshot without being overly lengthy. Obviously the captions should be free of grammatical errors; since they're generally complete sentences, they should ALWAYS end with a PERIOD!
 
Well, hope to hear back from you; I apologize for any inconvenience my bull-headedness has caused. Once we get this all sorted out, I'll go ahead and create the project page if we deem it necessary. Maybe this would be better-suited in that forum? A type of "discussion revival and ensuing project" kind of thing?}}
:ENX, do you think an [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Zelda_Wiki:Image_Requests Image Request page like on the Zelda wiki] would be a good idea? With it the image requests could be centralized and minor projects (like adding more animations for several abilities) can be discussed, so there would be no need for Project "Transparent" and Project "png" anymore. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] ([[User talk:ShardofTruth|talk]]) 11:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
::That could definitely be part of it, yes. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 12:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== IRC ==
 
I'm online now if you wish to discuss anything regarding our discussion last night. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 01:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 
==Stats and Resistances==
[http://www.mediafire.com/?789ezvc62aatdc6 Here are the pages Shard scanned], he suggests opening a notes forum and translating them there, but I'm just the messenger boy. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 16:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== Re:Xehanort's Heartless ==
 
Well I strongly disagree with using "Not-Ansem". While they don't technically know who Xehanort is at that point, it refers to him, NOT Ansem.
 
DONALD: It's the guy who's NOT Ansem.<br>
GOOFY: You mean it's his Nobody!
 
If my memory serves me correctly, when they say this, Donald and Goofy know the guy they defeated wasn't Ansem, and instead, it was the guy in the painting, Xehanort. When they see Xemnas, they use this dialogue, after which Mickey recalls his meeting with Ansem the Wise. A Heartless cannot possess a Nobody; only a human can. So this is misinformation.
 
At least the characters refer to him as "Xehanort's Heartless" in the dialogue (you're using "Not-Ansem" in the context of the dialogue, thus I chose "Xehanort's Heartless" because he's called that consistently throughout the series in all areas, dialogue and now even in the Journal). If you as my opinion, dialogue altogether is a very weak basis for character/article naming. And yet, you seem to have a thing for it. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 16:23, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:I don't have access to the Japanese material right now, I'll get it to you once I can. However, can you please provide citations for "Xehanort's Heartless"? The only times I'm aware of it being used is in the one scene at TWTNW, and in the KH3D journal entry (which uses it in line with "Xehanort's Nobody" and the other Org relations).{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::I'll work on it. In terms of vagueness with regards to "human form", it's the game's own terminology. Ergo, we should go with it rather than our own personal preferences. It's better than loading the articles with unofficial terms or synonyms, when this is the closest thing to an official term we have. If we're drawing so much of our information from ''KHII'' all of a sudden, I hasten to mention how it's heavily emphasized Ansem is to be known as "Xehanort's Heartless" from now on, when all of a sudden we're going with "Ansem" again. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
:KH3D itself calls him "Ansem, Seeker of Darkness", as has every Ultimania and game that mentions him in any way. "Xehanort's Heartless" is used in ''one line'' of KHII to mistakenly refer to Riku-Ansem, and as far as I know it's only used in KH3D in a context ''parallel to calling Xemnas "Xehanort's Nobody"''. If you have other sources for it, again, ''please cite them''.
:"human form", again, has conflicting meanings in previous games, and is ''not'' used consistently as an "official term" like "Nobody" or "Heartless". I hesitate to even call it consistent in KH3D, since I haven't played the whole thing, but the ''unofficial term'' "human form" can mean multiple things, not all of which are the meaning the article is going for, while "original persona" means specifically what the article is going for. In the absence of a term used specifically as a proper noun, it is accebtable and appropriate to choose synonyms of the common nouns in direct quotes the script uses, in order to better communicate the intent of the material.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
==Skin==
{{Uxie|time=06:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)|text=The MonoBook (Monaco) skin has gone funny (at least on my computer). The top bit's now the original MonoBook; the Search and Toolbox are still Monaco. What's going on?}}
 
:I've fixed this. --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 06:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::Gracias, amigo! {{Uxie/Sig}} 07:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
{{LightRoxas|text=I too have run into an issue with this skin, but only on the [[AR Card]] page. The side bar doesn't appear until the bottom of the page. Could just be my computer freaking out, I guess, but I don't see why that should happen. }}
 
== List ==
 
*[[Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance]]
*[[Dream Eater]]
**individual Dream Eater articles
*[[Reality Shift]]
*[[Flowmotion]]
*[[Link System]]
*[[True Organization XIII]]
*[[Sleeping Worlds]]
*[[Young Xehanort's Keyblade]]
*[[Flick Rush]]
*[[Another Guardian of Light]]
*[[Game:Young Xehanort]]
*[[Lea's Keyblade]]
*KH3D Keyblades
*KH3D worlds
**Characters
 
Updated
*[[Xehanort]]
*[[Maleficent]]
*[[Lea]]
*[[Xigbar]]
*[[Saïx]]
*[[Braig]]
 
In progress:
*[[Deck Command (KH3D)]] ([[Talk:Deck Command (KH3D)]])
**individual ability articles
 
Still to do:
*[[Dive Mode]]
*[[Link Portal]]
*[[Ability Link]]
*Flick Rush cups


== Review ==
== Good Questions on your User Page ==
Hey Kryten. Been lurking the wiki following my completion of KHIII as a sadistic form of trying to recover from this series' post-partum depression. Finally decided to log in as I liked many of the questions you asked on your user page but did see a couple I think I might know answers to.


If you don't mind it being just me and maggosh, I could be basically done now. KB0's stuff is too narrow, and ENX's is ''extremely'' detailed. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 19:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
When you ask about Terra-Xehanort, Roxas, and Xion and why they don't have to return back to their own time, I guess it's my understanding that they aren't time traveling. Specifically with Roxas and Xion, we know that's the case. Xion is a new replica made by Vexen based on the old data from her original form. They don't say how they had that data so there's a plot hole there, but she's definitely from the present. I don't think she even identified as "Xion" until Sora says her name, at which point I assume that her heart left him and entered her new body, giving her form. With Roxas, he's the heart from within Sora and the replica body that Demyx sneaked out to Ansem the Wise and Ienzo. I guess when they completed the body for Roxas' heart and his heart resonated with Namine, that broke the space barrier and pushed the two together?
:Fine. Post it on the Trinity Archives, and we can get ENX and KB0's stuff up later as alternative reviews.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


==Launch Event==
Terra-Xehanort is more tricky but I think that it was the present Terra, norted after they were separated. The game even mentions that when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated, it should have been Terra-Xehanort that came back, but instead it was Master Xehanort (which we know because he calls himself his most future/present form). So I guess the implication is that when they reformed as a whole person, Terra was separate, but Master Xehanort norted him again, only this time with just a fraction of his heart and not the whole thing like in BBS. It's poorly explained and mostly conjecture but makes sense to me.
Just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading about the launch event. Thanks much for posting that. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 03:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


== Formatting of Command/Attack Articles ==
Most of your other questions don't really have answers though. I think they are examples of Nomura deciding to do things 'just because' and hoping we'll forget about the contradictions. As has definitely happened before. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 19:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
:Also I'm pretty sure Riku is gay. Maybe that's just me reading into DDD too much though. And since Namine was technically born of Sora, maybe that's part of the attraction to her. I dunno man, this series is weird AF about romance and shipping. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 19:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah, the secret reports indicate that that's true for Roxas and Xion, but it makes a mess of what Roxas said earlier about "the same way you did". Then again, the plot already had a huge contradiction of itself with its insistence up until the end that Dark Riku was Ansem-Riku, when that's already who SoD is and I've literally been claiming Riku Replica as a Seeker since KHDDD came out.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I honestly think that Nomura is just really bad at answering questions and resolving plot points. And he built himself up too high here. I enjoyed the game a lot, even much of the story moments, but anyone trying to think through this series logically, even on its own lore it builds up, is going to need some Tylenol. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 21:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


I'm sick and tired of arguing with you through messages and edit summaries. Edit warring over such trivialities as a difference of opinion is childish and dumb; we're both above that. While I'd like to think a truce should be in order, I know that's not going to stop us from disagreeing on things.
==KH3 world story events and time from KH2 to KH3==
Really Kryten, really?:
*"''as I said before, there is barely any time between KH2 and KH3 for there to ''be'' a "before''""
*"''getting real damn tired of this. KH3 is set very shortly after KH2, Nomura has already told us that time moves at different paces among the worlds, and the worlds show longterm events happening in the space of a single visit.''"
:Okay I don't know why in the hell you're getting very upest about this but frankly, regardless it doesn't make sense that the events on each world happened overnight or during KH3, some of the story events (e.g. Jack getting consumed by the Krakken, Randall being brought back by Vanitas after being banished by Mike and Sulley in Monstropolis, Scrooge opening the bistro in Twilight Town) happened prior to KH3 events of the stories. That's my opinion and you can continue arguing and making your own reasonings straight from your mouth but literally you need to chlll and stop making this as a nitpick.  


I don't like the idea of an image just sitting there to make the page look pretty, but it has no reason to be a thumbnail if it lacks a caption (pretty pink frames take up space unnecessarily). I specifically added in a more meaningful caption (like the type suggested in that forum you showed me), but that made the sentence in the introductory paragraph of the article extremely redundant. I understand perfectly that it's part of the Wiki's formatting to structure an attack/command article that way, but I'd like to suggest changing that format ever so slightly to avoid said redundancy:  
Seriously didn't you forgot in BBS which is set 10 years before the first game that Sora, Kairi and Riku were 4 and 5 years old respectively or even Hercules was still a teenage before he became an adult? Just because time moves moves at different paces among the worlds, doesn't mean that certain characters, specifically some of the Disney characters like [[Ariel]], or the Frozen characters like [[Anna]] and [[Elsa]] were in their current ages during the events of BBS or the first game or Kingdom Hearts II--[[Special:Contributions/73.77.161.206|73.77.161.206]] 02:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
:As Kryten said, there's almost no time between KH2 and KH3. Between BBS and KH1 is a 10-year gap. That's why events happening during those years can be put in a separate header. Since we don't have a clear time period for any of the events you mentioned, everything that happens during KH3 gets put under the KH3 header. An exception for this would be Jack's deal with Davy Jones, because that is confirmed to take place thirteen years before KH3.
:"''That's my opinion and you can continue arguing and making your own reasonings straight from your mouth but literally you need to chlll and stop making this as a nitpick.''"
:So you're basically saying that your opinion is right, and we should just do that? Because that's not how it works. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
::"''An exception for this would be Jack's deal with Davy Jones, because that is confirmed to take place thirteen years before KH3''."And Anna's relationship with Elsa as she mentioned "years passed". Don't forget that KH2 that it has been a year since the first game.
::"''So you're basically saying that your opinion is right, and we should just do that? Because that's not how it works.''" How in the hell am I saying my opinion is right and the rest of you are wrong? That it isn't the point of the argument Events such as Jack getting consumed by the Krakken, Randall being banished by Mike and Sulley in Monstropolis prior to Vanitas bringing him back, Scrooge meeting Little Chef by opening the bistro in Twilight Town (remember he said he met him "a while ago") don't happen overnight or an instant. It could've been several weeks (not a week) or months that have passed between KH2 and KH3, but as of now, we don't know how long it has been between KH2 and KH3 as Nomura and Square haven't confirmed anything as of now, but I don't think it has been several days or a week if you ask me. Finally just because time moves at different paces among the worlds, doesn't mean that certain characters, specifically some of the Disney characters like for instance [[Ariel]], or the Frozen characters like [[Anna]] and [[Elsa]] were in their current ages during the events of BBS or the first game or even Kingdom Hearts II because more than likely they have aged just like Sora, Riku and Kairi did.{{unsigned|66.102.21.189}}
:::Nomura already clearly said that time on different worlds flows at different rates.
:::The bistro was not there in KH2. Jack wasn't eaten in KH2. KH3 occurs almost immediately after KH2 closes -- there is not ''time'' for these events to have happened other than during the opening scenes of KH3/AFP.
:::"don't happen overnight or an instant." -- it ''does'', however, happen post-KH2. And that means it happened during the early stages of KH3, because KH3 ''is directly after KH2''.
:::"It could've been several weeks (not a week) or months that have passed between KH2 and KH3," -- it could not have. We have that time accounted for. The deluxe edition artbook even provides a timeline. KH2 closes when they receive the letter, post Re:coded, they travel to Yen Sid's tower for the test (which outside the realm of sleep occurs over the course of basically a day, as the two boys are sent back in time for it to start), and then AFP/KH3 begins. Anything for any of the characters who show up in both KH2 and KH3 either happened during KH2 or KH3 -- there ''isn't'' a notable "between". The Mark of Mastery, for the outside world, covers less time than the period from Sora setting out for Olympus and arriving on each world.
:::Not sure why you're bringing up Monstropolis or Arendelle, as those don't appear in KH2. I suppose you could argue that Vanitas appearing at TWTNW in KH3D means he couldn't start working in Monstropolis until he had moved forward in time again, thus putting it during KH3, but I wasn't making that claim.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:34, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
::::"it ''does'', however, happen post-KH2. And that means it happened during the early stages of KH3, because KH3 ''is directly after KH2''.  -Okay it hasn't been a year as recently a Union Cross quiz said that Sora was still 15 years old as of Kingdom Hearts III, but honestly between KH2 to KH3 it feels more like 1-2 days but less than 3-7 days since after the events of Kingdom Hearts II.--[[Special:Contributions/172.58.102.235|172.58.102.235]] 17:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
::::"It could not have. We have that time accounted for. The deluxe edition artbook even provides a timeline. KH2 closes when they receive the letter, post Re:coded, they travel to Yen Sid's tower for the test (which outside the realm of sleep occurs over the course of basically a day, as the two boys are sent back in time for it to start), and then AFP/KH3 begins. Anything for any of the characters who show up in both KH2 and KH3 either happened during KH2 or KH3 -- there ''isn't'' a notable "between". The Mark of Mastery, for the outside world, covers less time than the period from Sora setting out for Olympus and arriving on each world." - Okay then your right, it hasn't been a year as recently a Union Cross quiz said that Sora was still 15 (since KH2) as of Dream Drop Distance and Kingdom Hearts III, but honestly it feels more than just a day, more than likely 1-2 days if you ask me after Kingdom Hearts II.
::::"Not sure why you're bringing up Monstropolis or Arendelle, as those don't appear in KH2." - I disagree with your comment even if some of the films those worlds were based on (aside from Toy Story and Monster's Inc.) didn't existed when KH2 came out, I pretty sure that the KH3 Disney worlds like Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, among others more than likely still existed as worlds prior to their actual story events in KH3. The same can be said for [[Tron]] in KH2  who mentioned about Space Paranoids being a copy of the [[The Grid|original version from ENCOM]], which turns out to be the Tron: Legacy world (which mind you the film didn't existed when KH2 came out, but was added in DDD to connect what tron said in KH2). Also while it's true "time flows differently" in worlds (more specifically the Disney worlds than the Original worlds like [[Twilight Town]], [[Radiant Garden]], and [[Destiny Islands]]), it doesn't mean that everyone ages differently between the different worlds. I mean think about it the FF characters that resided in Radiant Garden aged a year between KH and KH2 (Yuffie was 16 in KH and 17 during KH2. She more than likely was 6 years old during the events of BBS), secondly for Atlantica, [[Ariel]] was 16 years old during the events of Kingdom Hearts and she was presumably 17 years old during Kingdom Hearts III (at least that's what I saw from the original KH2 website.--[[Special:Contributions/172.58.102.235|172.58.102.235]] 17:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
:::::Your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. You're making a lot of claims about ages that aren't supported by the games, and the reason it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle is because it provides no evidence whatsoever.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
::::::"Your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever." - In what way does it not make sense?
::::::"You're making a lot of claims about ages that aren't supported by the games, and the reason it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle is because it provides no evidence whatsoever." All I'm saying is that while yes "Time flows differently" in the worlds (specifically the Disney worlds) in doesn't necesarily mean it ALSO applies to the original worlds like Radiant Garden or Twilight Town flowing differently than Destiny Islands. Secondly, it makes NO sense on what you said on the Disney worlds (Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, San Fransokyo) didn't existing at all prior to KH3. True the films didn't existed when Kingdom Hearts II came out but as its has been 1-2 days after KH2 they still existed as worlds otherwise during the pre-KH3 events. Same can be said on the Disney worlds in DDD (particularly the Grid from "Tron: Legacy") as they are dream representation of the worlds that were destroyed by the Heartless prior to the events of the first game. Continue arguing till the cows come home but that's enough already, with your arguments and whatever your beliefs are.--[[Special:Contributions/73.77.161.206|73.77.161.206]] 16:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
:::"In what way does it not make sense?" -- in the exact way I already stated. Please learn how to read, or stop spamming my talk page. One or the other.
:::"All I'm saying is that while yes" -- No, you made specific claims about Yuffie and Ariel's ages which have absolutely no support in the canon. It's completely nonsensical puffery, because you're basically saying "well, if I imagine that I'm right, that means I'm right!" You're pulling an assumption out of your ass and pretending like it should mean something to anyone but you.
:::I already explained why it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle. They do not support your argument at all, because they are completely irrelevant to the question at hand. The only examples you've brought up that were even vaguely relevant to the topic (of identifying when certain events ''could'' be dated, given the existing canon) were your claims about Jack getting consumed by the Kraken, or Randall being brought back by Vanitas "not making sense to have happened overnight" -- which, while at least being on topic, are ''completely false''. Jack ''has'' to have been eaten overnight, because he was still alive at the end of KH2. For Randall, the events of Monstropolis imply that Randall ''just got back that night''.
:::"Secondly, it makes NO sense on what you said on the Disney worlds (Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, San Fransokyo) didn't existing at all prior to KH3." -- I never said anything even slightly similar to this. Your responses paint you as paying little to no attention to the discussion, while simultaneously being very certain you want to "win" it. It's a complete waste of time bordering on trolling or vandalism.
:::Bringing up Arendelle makes no sense because ''no one was even disputing that Anna and Elsa's childhood happened years before KH3''. The fact that Arendelle has no other mentions in the series also means that ''it absolutely cannot be used to date anything''.
:::"Continue arguing till the cows come home" is disingenuous, contemptuous bullshit. If you're not interested in having a good faith discussion, then why not just ''stop spewing on my talk page just to get the "last word"?'' I'm not interested in continuing this discussion, since you've shown absolutely no proof that you even understand the claim you're attempting to argue with. Either start acting in good faith, or just go away.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


*Transfer the descriptions of attacks from the introductory paragraph of the article to the caption of the .gif image illustrating it. That solves the "irrelevant caption" problem. To enforce this description within the article instead of simply relying on images, we add the in-game description of an attack or command using the Quote template and simply list the introductory paragraph as "<INSERT COMMAND NAME HERE> is a <INSERT COMMAND TYPE HERE> command that appears in <INSERT GAME TITLE HERE>".
== Hollow Bastion/Castle Oblivion ==


What I'm thinking of would look like this (Meteor Crash is used as an example):
I'm not sure I quite follow. Are you suggesting that there should be a separate article for the memory-version of Hollow Bastion? In that case doesn't that go for all the worlds that appear within Castle Oblivion as well as all the worlds that appear within the Datascape? - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 14:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


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== KH3 Battle Sprites ==
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{{Q|Riku only<br>Uses two slots<br>Muster energy in midair, then slash groundward as meteors rain down.|In-game description of Meteor Crash from ''Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance''}}
So, since I obviously don't get it, what IS the proper name and format I need for the KH3 battle sprites I have uploaded? I thought I was following the media policy well, specifically, I also followed how Aqua's 0.2 sprites were on their page, because I ripped them the same way.--[[User:BuddyFaith|BuddyFaith]] ([[User talk:BuddyFaith|talk]]) 20:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
[[File:Meteor Crash KHBBS.gif|thumb|Meteor Crash causes the user to leap into the air and bring the Keyblade down on the enemy as several meteors rain down.]]
{{nihongo|'''Meteor Crash'''|メテオバースト|Meteo Bāsuto|lit. "Meteor Burst"}} is a command exclusive to Terra in ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'' and exclusive to Riku in ''Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance''.
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I personally think this looks and works just fine. Not only does it work for attacks and commands, but for Shotlocks and other abilities, too. It should also clear up redundancy in the Mechanics section, as well. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
== Ultimania Renders ==


::I'm not sure I like it this way. The description/function of the command is a critical point that should be mentioned in the lead. If there is redundency in the Mechanics section, then that part should be fixed. If we need something for the caption that isn't normally covered in the rest of the article, how about the visual aspect? For example, nowhere in the Meteor Crash article does it mention that Terra summons streams of fire to his Keyblade before bringing it down for the impact. --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 20:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
A lot have been released online, albeit as low-quality scans. Would you say we can still use these in our articles? I'm concerned about the ones which would serve as a particular article's "main image." I can upload as many renders as I can when I get home from work tonight, but I would like to know how you feel about this: Lady Junky uploaded the Dark Riku official render, but her attempt to remove the background leaves much to be desired (mainly because the color of Riku's hair matches the scan background). Would you say we should remove the backgrounds (may take some time), or would the backgrounds included be okay for now? Obviously, we would use <nowiki>{{betterpic}}</nowiki>... - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 16:00, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I personally find that to be unnecessary information. If I read "Before using Meteor Crash, Terra summons streams of fire to his Keyblade" as a caption, the only thing I'd be able to say after looking at the .gif image is "Yeah, I can see that." In my eyes, leaving a description of the attack or command out of the lead encourages the reader to continue browsing the page, where they then would see that we describe it yet again in the Mechanics section.
:I would think we're definitely going to get better pics once shard gets his copy, so I don't mind either way.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:01, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


:::A caption should at least be informative. Then again, a caption is meant to describe a picture (which is why I preferred the short, sweet, and simple "Terra using Meteor Crash in ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep''" caption), not serve as yet another addition to the lead...The only reason we're arguing about this in the first place is the on-going controversy about periods in captions. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 20:16, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
== Sora Heartless ==


Sora's Heartless: Shadow/Neo Darkside/AntiSora forms are covered on the list, but his state after recovering his physical form is not. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 16:49, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
:Those forms are treated as separate physical entities, even though they stem from the same source, by the ultimania.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
::Ah gotcha. Would the physical form be considered separate since it's technically listed as "Sora" in the journal? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 17:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


::::I don't agree that we have to remove the frame if there's no caption. It has a real aesthetic benefit.
== Riku/Ansem ==
::::I don't think we can uniformly move the attack description to the captions, as they are often quite long, and we don't always have an animation for an ability. A list of the game appearances is also much lower-priority information than what the ability actually IS, as that list does nothing to define the subject of the page; while leaving the information later in the article may require the reader to read further in to learn basic facts of the subject, that's not really a positive in my view. If we could somehow use the image AS the introduction, I would agree with you, but without replacing the lead ''with'' the image, the image serves as a visual aid.
::::Most of the command descriptions are going to be significantly redundant to the Mechanics sections. Plus, we have the Shout Project to add some quote flavor to certain commands.
::::I do not feel that the Mechanics section should be covering a description of the ability's "in-universe" effect beyond describing things like range and damage output. The point of that section is to specifically get into the binary nitty-gritty of the code behind the ability.
::::Yes, that's what captions do; you usually read them to verify you are interpreting the image correctly.
::::"Terra using Meteor Crash in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep" is pure fluff. The image was not chosen for the page because of Terra or KHBbS; you might as well specify how much EXP he has at the time or what room he is in for all the relevance it has to the subject. The only relevant part of that caption, unless the point of the image is to ''specifically demonstrate how Meteor Crash differs visually from game-to-game and user-to-user'', is that the image is indeed of Meteor Crash—and that is stunningly obvious by the title of the article. I've actually been disputing those kinds of captions since before DTN left, as I told you earlier. My view on it is somewhat informed by [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Caption this], which I would highly recommend anybody writing captions to read.
::::If we incorporate a caption into the page, then that space gives us a wonderful opportunity to inform the reader of something relevant and interesting that possibly doesn't fit well anywhere else on the page; for example, Neumannz's suggestion about the rain of fire. Merely restating the title of the article, or a prominent sentence integral to the introduction, or worst, details of the image which are unrelated to the article subject, is a waste of that opportunity and comes across as detracting redundancy to the reader.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 20:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::I quite like Neumannz's idea of adding detail as it adds more depth to our slightly-bare-compared-to-other-articles command pages. It also makes the reader notice things that they may of not noticed at first (I never actually noticed the rain of fire before). If we were to follow ENX's quote plan, we should not need to say 'In-game description ''of Meteor Crash'' from Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. It should just be "In-game description from Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance'. We shouldn't have to repeat Meteor Crash over and over again, I think the title makes it obvious that we aren't talking about any other command. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 00:19, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


== I don't want a Ban ===
Is it ever said that Riku's heart was expelled? I though him showing up in 0.2 was him reforming immediately after Ansem's defeat. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 20:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Yes I have Flaws huge Big one to be exact the reason I blanked it out was because I could not stand every new rule you like to have your way, stating that all voices must have a darn source page etc.., and afterwards I completely lost it. So I'm sorry for the mess to this there forth I'll stop messing around this place. --[[Special:Contributions/98.196.40.126|98.196.40.126]] 00:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
:Ah I found it, in KHFM they show Riku after having his heart expelled from Ansem's body. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 21:51, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


P.S I being honest and reasonable and not showing any jealeousy here!
== Kingdom Hearts VR Experience ==


== KH3D treasure list draft ==
I just created a page for the VR Experience (since we didn't have one), but if I'm being honest....I have no idea what the hell I'm doing lol. >_< I can't get the tiny little icon to show up, nor can I find the main page portal template. If you can help me out with this, it'd be swell.  :(  --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 18:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
:The Game template is basically a display, while the Gameicon template actually houses the images. The portal is at [[Main_Page/Game_Portals]]. To track down where components of a page are, you want to look at Templates used on this page toward the bottom of a page while editing it.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks. :D As if it wasn't obvious enough lol, I only know the bare minimum when it comes to editing stuff! --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 19:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


So umm yeah, how does [[User:UnknownChaser/KH3DTreasure#Traverse Town|this]] like as a draft? {{User:UnknownChaser/Sig}} 05:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
==Retiring==
:Shouldn't duplicate treasures still be listed separately?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 05:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm working with good faith here, but you're sapping my motivation to do anything on the site when you are constantly editing or reverting any contributions I make, often with minimal explanation. Statements like "Not relevant, removing spec" don't really leave me with any understanding of what is acceptable and what is not. I know I've not been here long, but in the face of my contributions consistently not being up to par, I'm choosing to quit the site. - [[User:Joveus|Joveus]] ([[User talk:Joveus|talk]]) 20:23, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::That's what I would say. Also, use the category names from the game; I think you can see them all in the Moogle Shop.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:58, 22 August 2012 (UTC)


==Re:Nightmare Split==
== Adamant ==
I thought as much. >8^y {{User:Erry/Sig}} 14:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)


== "INTEGRATE THE PLOT AS DEPICTED IN THE GAME" ==
Does it share the same kana as Adamant Shield and Adamant Belt? If so should there be a disambiguation page for them instead? - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 13:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


Considering the Drop mechanic lets the player play through either side of the World in whatever order they wish, how do you suggest that be done? The only cut-off is that Riku cannot enter the Castle in the real world until Sora fights Xemnas, and Sora arrives at the world first. Otherwise the events can be experienced in whatever order the player likes. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]][[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]]  02:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
== 208.94.76.25 ==
:The order is TT > LCdC > PP > TG > CotM > SS > TWTNW [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 02:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
If this guy keeps causing problems, why not block him? --[[User:Yellowlightning1996|Yellowlightning1996]] ([[User talk:Yellowlightning1996|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
:Whatever order the player wants, sure, but the game depicts a certain order to the events.
::Roughly:
*Sora and Riku enter TWTNW together
*Sora's entire story
*Riku makes his way through the twofold nightmare and reaches Sora
*Riku emerges from the nightmare, and enters the castle for real
*Teatime
:There's really no need for the "side" stuff in these synopses, except possibly in the first ring of worlds. The stories of Symphony, Country, Town, and World are all written so that you can't discuss it completely by focusing on each character separately.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


::That the game depicts them in this order is news to me, there's no order to the Theater since it splits up the cutscenes by side, and as I said, you can Drop from one character to the other at any time. Tell me where the game demonstrates this order and I'll reorganize the section accordingly. And I've no clue what you mean by "side stuff". [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]][[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 02:50, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
== Adding new images ==
:::The order is in the Reports' Story section. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 03:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I have a replacement image for From Chains to Bonds, but adding images on this type of wiki is very different than what I'am used too. --[[User:Yellowlightning1996|Yellowlightning1996]] ([[User talk:Yellowlightning1996|talk]]) 19:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::The Story section also divides the summary into two "sides" for Sora and Riku. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]][[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 03:08, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
:What you need me do.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::EDIT - I'll also note that those mentioned worlds not separating Sora and Riku is not a fair argument to make, since the stories are structured in ways that allow the story to be told continuously from Sora or Riku's side. TWTNW has no such connection, the story is completely different between the two and there is no connection.
How do I upload images properly on this wiki? --[[User:Yellowlightning1996|Yellowlightning1996]] ([[User talk:Yellowlightning1996|talk]]) 22:34, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::In TWTNW, when Sora sees Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Aqua and Terra, you can hear Riku's yells telling him to wake up. This connects the two stories as at the end of Riku's side of dream-TWTNW, he is seen saying the exact same thing to Sora before his fight with Anti Black Coat.{{User:Erry/Sig}} 04:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
:[[Special:Upload]], it needs to be png, and it needs to be official (not tweaked by you).{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Although the player is free to be in any world they wish, even though it doesn't make sense, the plots of Symphony, Country, Town, and World explicitly depict the other character fulfilling their part of the story at the same time. For example, in Symphony, Sora and Riku finish their first books at the same time; when their individual books on their own aren't able to unlock the final book, their combined melody does the trick. TWTNW has the same setup, although you need to be paying more attention to see it. In fact, Riku's story section for TWTNW leaves a huge blank space from his arrival to the first event, to allow room for Sora's story.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
In that case, I think I'll pass on that. I don't want to cause problems. --[[User:Yellowlightning1996|Yellowlightning1996]] ([[User talk:Yellowlightning1996|talk]]) 14:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


Yeah... Don't mean to butt in or anything, but since I'm the one doing the stories (or "sides) for the worlds and I've been keeping an eye on this, do you want me to stop until we figure out a plan to do this? I already started of Prankster's Paradise, just a paragraph or two, but if you this idea to combine both them, then should I stop?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 15:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
== Links to official terms ==
::Instead of using separate headers, just use "meanwhile" whenever we have Sora and Riku doing something in the same world at the same time, and try to keep to the order presented in the plot as much as possible. I think The Grid, Prankster's Paradise, and La Cite des Cloches are the only worlds where the interlink isn't explicit, so for those you can just go, "Sora's nonsense, meanwhile, Riku's hullaballoo."{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:28, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


I've always thought that badly written information is better than none at all, at least when it's visible you can slap a template on it so people know there's stuff to fix up, but I guess prioritizing coverage over aesthetics is silly. In the meantime I still have no idea what you guys are expecting, and it looks to me like you can't even agree with each other on such either, so how about you guys figure out how you want the section organized and when you have, fix it yourselves, I've done my part. As the saying goes, "if you want something done right" and all. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]][[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]]  10:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
[https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Deep_Space&diff=prev&oldid=784249] Why do we need pages for every official term? Things like the United Galactic Federation are only briefly mentioned (I don't know if it's even mentioned in the story, or just journal entries), and since we don't take information from source material, there's pretty much no information to make a page for. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
:Star ocean at least is a major topic. I think we can write up at least some material on the UGF, considering what we're told in the Deep Space world, though I suppose the Grand Councilwoman naturally embodies the Federation and especially the council, so we could cover that all on her page. I would think a redirect to her page would work, and mention that the ship and Gantu are members as well?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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KH & KHFM gummi enemies

Yes I know, it's a bit early to talk about them, the KHII section isn't even finished yet. But maybe you have an idea how to adapt the template for them. This is an extreme example from the Ultimania. Not every ship has two variants (Omega is the only ship that as a "C" variant) or sub variants (they just seem to affect the drops, maybe they are the "before/after rescue" equivalents, I don't know). Nearly every main variant (A, B or C) has a different Final Mix appearance, the stats are the same though.--ShardofTruth 22:41, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

notes

Sora's profile updates after Agrabah Donald, Goofy, Data-Riku after Hollow Bastion 1

Note: I believe this "update" is only the addition of new sprites to the gallery and not an actual update to the entry itself --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 20:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Emblem Piece: A fragment of the Heartless emblem. Collect more of these and something is bound to happen...
  • Mystery Piece: A shiny fragment. Collect more of these and something is bound to happen...
  • Debug Device: R: Destroys one of the red bug chips that obstruct slots in the Stat Matrix.
  • Debug Device: Y: Destroys one of the yellow bug chips that obstruct slots in the Stat Matrix.
  • Bug Chip: R - You can destroy this by using a Debug Device: R.
  • Bug Chip: Y - You can destroy this by using a Debug Device: Y.
  • Boiling Point
  • Zero to Hero
  • Omnislash
  • Goofy Turbo
  • Goofy Tornado
  • Donald Firaga
  • Donald Thundaga
  • Spinner Ray
  • Ask for Help

Agrabah simulacrum: 3 Core Blox at once

Hollow Bastion II - all chips are reduced to % of matrix power.

  • page-specific breadcrumbs?


chips: quest rewards, mini-quest rewards, drop from enemies, drop from blox, boss rewards, sector prizes, shop, melding.

cerberus, rock titan, ice titan are sources cloud - cerberus quote twilighters in traverse town spend less than 45 seeconds on the ground! (agrabah last 2nd floor) traverse town final sector challenge 3: spend less than 60 seconds on the ground oc encounter dropped magnega


userboxes for #trophies?

Tell Shard: "14" is sometimes marked in gold in English Re:coded.

confirm: http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Difficulty_Level&curid=37582&diff=474856&oldid=472947

http://pastebin.com/hz552ySA

Finish organizing:

  • Attack Card KHBBS.png
  • Magic Card KHBBS.png
  • Misc Card KHBBS.png
  • Joker Card KHBBS.png
  • Bottle flavor KHBBS.png
  • Candy flavor KHBBS.png
  • Fruit flavor KHBBS.png
  • Topping flavor KHBBS.png
  • Spice flavor KHBBS.png
  • Disney Town Passport KHBBS.png
  • Neverland Treasure Map KHBBS.png
  • D-Link Emblem KHBBS.png

prune file talk and category talk

http://i56.tinypic.com/2570l0w.bmp http://i52.tinypic.com/rkzkec.bmp

闇の世界に堕ちてしまったアクア


Re:coded orbs:

  • Munny
  • HP
  • Agrabah clock(?)
  • Olympus Coliseum points(?)
  • Hollow Bastion Matrix Power
  • SP prizes

OC notes

Licenses
  • Timing-L (Combat)
  • Defense-L (Combat)
  • Strength-L (Combat)
  • Auto-Life-L (Combat)
  • Regen-L (Combat)
  • Scout-L (Map)
  • Break-L (Map)
  • Auto-Block-L (Combat)
  • Reload-L (Combat)
  • Charge-L (Combat)
  • Escape-L (Combat)
  • Reload-Boost-L (Combat)
  • Entrap-L: Ensures you get a preemptive strike in every battle throughout the current layer. (Map)
OC commands [LV1-5, slot number varies]
  • Subjugate
  • Explosion
  • Random License
  • Friend Cure
  • Faithblade
  • Freeze Line
  • Breath of Zeus
  • Zeus's Spear
  • Blade Line
  • Sonic Line
  • Sonic Surge
  • Star of Faith


OC orbs

OC enemy techs
  • Air Soldier - Knuckle Hammer
  • Shadow - Claw Lunge
  • Soldier - Kick Storm
  • Yellow Opera - Thunder
  • Red Nocturne - Fire
  • Blue Rhapsody - Blizzard
  • Green Requiem - Cure
  • Large Body - Charge, Jumping Jolt
  • Bandit - Slash
  • Fat Bandit - Jumping Jolt, Ball of Flame
  • Wizard - Rolling Blizzara, Random Thundara, Speed Fira
  • Darkball - Chomp
  • Defender - Shield Bite, Fira, Blizzara
  • Wyvern - Corkscrew Charge, Flurry Kick
  • Invisible - Darkball, Scourge
  • Black Fungus - Dark Contact
  • Cloud - Omnislash
  • Cerberus - Firaga Ball, Triple Chomp
  • Hades - Summon Shadow
  • Rock Titan (Wristbands) - Haymaker, Earthshaker
  • Behemoth - Stomp, Dark Pulse
  • Ice Titan (Leather Gloves) - Ice Lance



JPN names for Quest items

Destiny Islands: 2jdmjvc.jpg
Traverse Town: 330y735.jpg
Wonderland: dokl93.jpg
Olympus Coliseum: sottdx.jpg
Agrabah: 2hdruzd.jpg

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off. - Erry 16:08, January 27, 2011 (UTC)



hello, KrytenKoro.

transcribed text shall upload to here. http://files.myopera.com/itochan/blog/kh.txt

wait several hours :) 118.86.63.184 16:28, February 1, 2011 (UTC) itochan


http://i56.tinypic.com/2570l0w.bmp


http://i52.tinypic.com/rkzkec.bmp おはなし　　アクア シークレットエピソード

闇の世界に堕ちてしまったアクア。 テラに絆を託して光の世界へ送り返したその手には自身のキーブレードはない。 つながりのお守りを心の拠り所にして歩き続けていたアクアは、闇の世界に突然起きた異変を目の当たりにする。 異変の原因を確かめようと急いだアクアは闇に巣くう魔物の襲撃を受ける。 アンヴァースとは異なる魔物の襲撃を辛くも目の当たりにする。 異変の原因を確かめようと急いだアクアは闇に巣くう魔物の襲撃を受ける。 アンヴァースとは異なる魔物の襲撃を辛くも退けたアクア。 さらに歩を進めたアクアは視界に飛び込んできた光景を疑わずにはいられなかった。 そこにはかつてアクアが訪れた世界『キャッスル・オブ・ドリーム』の城がそびえ立っていた。


snap001c.png キャラクター事典　　メインキャラクター

ノーハート

キーブレードを操る何者かが鎧をまとった姿。 その正体は定かではない。


2m60d9z.jpg フレイムボックス

相手が吐き出す隕石をロックオンして 素早く壊していこう。

隕石に当たるとタイムロスにつながるので、 シュートロックコマンドや 広範囲に効果があるマジックコマンドを 使うと攻略しやすいぞ！


24vp1nb.jpg サバイバルボトル

攻撃を当てるとHPが回復する。 煙を噴き出すので、 連続して攻撃を叩きこもう。

回復コマンドを使えばHPを維持する ことができるので、複数デッキに 装備しておくのも有効だ！


2q9i0lh.jpg ロストランナー

攻撃をしてくることはないが 素早く逃げ回るため、力押しでは 攻略が難しい。

レベルの高いシュートロックコマンドや 広範囲にダメージを与えられる コマンドを使ってまとめて倒そう！


aaymi0.jpg ダイエットタンク

バルブのついた背中を攻撃したいが、 なかなか背を向けない時や、 背後に回り込みづらいときには 相手が攻撃を仕掛けてくるのを待とう。

ガードカウンターが成功すると 背中を向けることがあるので、 そこが最大のチャンスだ！ 一気に攻撃をたたみかけよう。


23oa4w.jpg 遠距離からの攻撃だと、 ボールを落としても拾われてしまうので 接近しつつ、攻撃を与えて ボールを奪おう。

相手が攻撃を仕掛けてきたら ガードカウンターのチャンスだぞ！ しっかりと攻撃を見きわめよう。


zuf30n.jpg 中央にいる敵の属性と同じ 属性で攻撃する為に、まずは ファイア系ブリザド系サンダー系の コマンドをデッキにセットしよう。

コマンドスタイルの属性攻撃も 有効なので、同じ属性の時には 一気にポイントを稼ぐチャンスだ！


2wf96o7.jpg シェイドジェリー

いつものように大群で出現してくるので、 とにかく休むことなく連続して 攻撃することが重要だ。

素早く繰り出せる広範囲の デッキコマンドを使って、一気に やっつけよう！


2dh9tm9.jpg ランチングプラント

一定以上の攻撃を与えると 空中に浮かびあがるので、 ヒット数の多いコマンドで攻撃しよう。

一度地面に落ちてしまうと タイムロスにつながってしまうので、 休むことなく攻撃し続けることが 攻略のカギだ！

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Stuff that needs doing

--Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 05:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Gauge Article

Please see this and its talk page. Thanks! - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 01:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


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Still to do:

SDCC

Hey Kryten, it's that time of year where I go to San Diego Comic Con and ask you if there's anything in particular you want me to photograph or anything you'd like me to attend in particular. I'll be there on Saturday, I'm not exactly sure if there's anything that Square Enix is doing that's KH related, but let me know! Chaos Crystal KHBBS.pngColdAsFireChaos Crystal KHBBS.png06:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I wouldn't even begin to know. Maybe start a forum?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Some concerns

Okay, I would like to know how it's possible one person such as Byzantinefire to be able to have so many different IP addresses. Seriously, he's been banned on them so often, it's not even funny anymore :-/ --Doggieboy9 (talk) 01:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Dunno. We have tools to prevent it now, tho."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Email...delay...

Hey there. Sorry this is so very, very late. (Like since July >_<). I'm not sure what Facebook page you're talking about...I'm already a member of the one we created like five years ago.. Regardless. Sorry about that, this should fix it. Xion4ever 02:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Just checking...

Do you still want these pages deleted?--NinjaSheik 19:44, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Demote

I'm sad to see another user go, considering how small the community is, but I know that you haven't be on lately because of RL stuff. Before you go, though, you need to revoke your user rights. Neumz isn't around, either, and only bcrats can demote other users. Just giving you a reminder.--NinjaSheik 21:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations!

You're now the wiki's very first janitor. TheSilentHero 09:57, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Yussss."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 09:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

"removed just a ton of purposeful policy violation"

Just so you know, I didn't purposefully violate any policy by adding links to drafts.

My last edit to the KH3 template was 14:51. TheSilentHero raised concern about whether or not we should link to drafts on 16:45.

I hope you're simply misinformed, as I appreciate honesty. If there was a "no linking to drafts" rule, then I wasn't aware of it. Soroxas (talk) 19:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Why people saying Famitsu confirmed Aquanort

People translated the yellow box on this image from Famitsu, which I'll show you where the translation came of 'confirmation' came from, which could be why are treating it as 'confirmation'.:

DgPT0MjW0AUGrxb.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.79.246 (talk • contribs)

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I'm not laughing!
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 This is a warning for hostile behavior towards other users, false accusations of bad faith.

Your edits have been reverted; please do not attempt to repeat them.
If you wish to do test edits, you are welcome to do so here.

— Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 18:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Unfortunately, Kryten, I don't find that your behavior has been very helpful in de-escalating the hostility regarding the KH3 navbox template. Although there are various instances where you were more civil towards the anonymous IP, there were also plenty instances where you failed to do so. Even though he/she is being stubborn, that of course doesn't mean you can be so.


Specifically, you falsely accused the IP of bad faith this week. However, I've reviewed the edits, and you did not revert all the IP's edits. That to me shows that their edits are not necessarily of bad faith, simply part of them are based in their own stubbornness. In fact, you re-added part of an edit you had reverted from this IP. False accusations of bad faith are, well, bad; one cannot assume the true intentions of an editor simply because they're insisting on their view point, even if it's against site policy and they know it. There's a significant difference between disagreeing with site policy and acting with malicious intent. As explained on Wikipedia regarding good faith, "editors should not attribute the actions being criticized to malice unless there is specific evidence of such." (Wikipedia:Assume Good Faith) So, this is your warning on the matter. Don't engage in disruptive or accusatory behavior with other users; it's easier to take action against disruptive users when you yourself are "clearly acting appropriately throughout." Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png
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Is this the edit you're talking about?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry about that. I wasn't paying close enough attention. The film seemed to frame the green-haired character as the Player, but looking at the intro, he has brown hair. Also, sorry about posting those background removal requests. I'm still kinda new. It has been fixed, however. -- User:Raitomidnight555/Sig 14:01, 03 July 2018 (CT)

Dude, that's okay. I was just correcting it, not chastising you."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Re:Wikia

I saw it in the Keyhole yesterday. I had always feared that there would be trouble because of the acquisition of fandom. Byzantinefire would have to know, because he had been active here. In the keyhole they should definitely insert a template during the upload with the summary, so like here. In the german Kingdom Hearts Wiki I add the link for files to KHWiki.com. I know that the cleaning of pictures is a hard work. I am not angry about you. :) Since Fandom killed the monobook skin, I'm a little annoyed about it.

Now you also get the portable info box forced, and many functions in the old templates are no longer working. I wish the best for your project here, because you have the best source of information here. Sorry for my bad english. I am a grammar devil. >:D Pain88 (talk) 13:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can not play KHUX right now, I don't have the time. Sorry.
At the moment I am still trying to find information for KHII for the german KH Wiki. Since our articles there have to be revised again. Since SQEX Germany had also made various translations of the names in the abilitys, it makes it difficult for me to compare the information here with the english name of the abilitys. It was hard for me to find the abilities for Re:Com with the german names and to compare them here with the english ones. But I finally finished that. But I'm too lazy to create the articles for the abilitys. :) with the best regards Pain88 (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, this Fandom employee had undone it yesterday and if I change it again, I risk a block. They also ran a bot that also removed other links to here. Images that ShardofTruth created, have at least some meta-data, that contains that the images only for KHWiki.com is. Fandom is becoming more and more arrogant. They have also bought up the old domain name for our old independent KH Wikia. Fandom considers this wiki here as competition. Jimmy Wales and his staff are all about profits. If they overdo it or take over one-to-one articles from you, they would have to report it because of DMCA's violation via their special contact. At the moment we just have to keep watching the keyhole. Pain88 (talk) 21:38, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Honestly...we tried being polite and friendly, and asking them to display basic civility, honesty, and decency. They have to know by now that their behavior is what keeps chasing away dedicated editors, so...fuck, if they want to chase away dedicated editors and spit on those trying to reach out an olive branch, who are we to stop them? Maybe someday they'll figure out why they keep having to stick more and more ads into the sites in order to maintain their bottom line."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 11:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

The Experiment is an Heartless

Hi, sorry for bothering you here, but I see nobody see what I write in the discussion page of The Experiment (https://www.khwiki.com/Talk:The_Experiment), but I discovered another thing that proof he is a Heartless without any doubt. How already was sayed in the page, ingame in pause menu he is called Heartless and in the TCG he is classified as a Heartless, but there is another proof. If the Experiment is killed with Wisdom Form (that gain EXP ONLY if you kill Heartless), the WF gain EXP from The Experiment, I proved this with other bosses, I killed Xigbar with Final Form (since gain EXP killing Nobodies) and it gain EXP, and I tried too to kill the Hostile Program with WF thinking it was a Heartless, but the WF DON'T gain any EXP from the Hostile Program, but from The Experiment and other Heartless boss it does, so, this proof without any doubt he is a Heartless, otherwise the WF will not gain any EXP from him.--186.237.40.21 10:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I'd like to confirm what you're claiming for myself, but I don't think we can say "without any doubt" -- there are other parts of the game that do not treat it as a Heartless, like the journal. It does fade away similar to a Pureblood Heartless, moreso than Scar did. I believe it would be some sort of pseudo-Heartless, similar to how the Soul Eater is a pseudo-Keyblade."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
The Journal just placed The Experiment in "character section" thing that already happen to others Heartless (Ansem), even Nobodies (all Organization, Naminé), Unversed (Vanitas Sentiment) and Dream Eaters (Riku and Anti Black Coat), so, be in Character section don't mean "he is not a Heartless/Nobody/Unversed/Dream Eater) and the game never say "he is not a Heartless", neither his creation method means nothing. Shadow Sora and AntiSora was created in a different way from others Heartless, but still they are considered Heartless, and all proofs say he is a Heartless. About the pseudo-Keyblade I never understand, we saw others objects that was used to became/summon the Keyblade (Struggle Bat in 1st and 4th day of Roxas in KH2 and Wooden Stick of Roxas in 6th day in KH2, and I doubt they are pseudo-Keyblade), and the Soul Eater was called Keyblade just in KH Mobile, and is not even canon that game, in any other official source it is never considered a Keyblade, in 358 is classified as a sword, and in none game anybody consider it a Keyblade.--186.237.40.21 18:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
The Soul Eater thing is referring to Mobile, the Soul Eater's demonstrated abilities compared to dialogue/reports in Days and BbS, and statements from Nomura. That is why I called it a pseudo-Keyblade.
The Journal clearly delineates the bulk of Heartless and Nobodies from the rest of the characters, and except for these very three in question, the only ones it leaves on the character lists are those that retained their human form and personality. It does not mean it is definitely not a Heartless, but it's not a point in its favor."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I think Journal add to characters the H/N/U/DE that have a huge role in the story of at least 1 world. The Experiment is quite important in Halloween Town story in KH2 secon visit, so they considered it as a true character even if he is a Heartless. For the Soul Eater, ok, but since is pseudo I don't think should be listed with others Keyblades, but this is a my opinione, and don't make part of the The Experiment's race thing.--170.244.153.233 21:32, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Image moving

If you're going to be moving a lot of images to different filenames, please remember to update it on the articles/galleries. It's wiki etiquette. Soroxas (talk) 09:17, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I have another question. If 350px is the default size for infobox images, why is Mickey, Donald and Goofy, among many others, 250px? Soroxas (talk) 20:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. It looks like it was changed at some point between now and Halloween 2012. I've gone in and fixed Mickey's."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Recent edits

I strongly disagree with the removal of talk sprites in Galleries. They are official art designed for the game, ripped by fans, just like the Days talk sprites. It's a nonsensical double standard why Days talk sprites are allowed and not COM. If you use the argument "they're also used as someone's personal textbox", I don't see why it means we can not allow them on the Galleries. There are many instances where pics are on both mainspace articles and used on people talk pages, in their templates, etc. It does not have to be "one or the other" and there is no harm them in Galleries. I view it as overt pedanticism hurting the wiki and preventing official art from being archived and easily available.

If a character is exclusive to Union X, they should not be in the standard X category, or we're being dishonest. We should specify differences between X and Union X. Unfortunately, I haven't played either so I'm not entirely familiar with who's in which, but from my understanding, Lauriam and Brain are not in the original X.

Larxene slapping Naminé is also a perfect illustration of her "cold", "ruthless" and "uncaring" personality mentioned in the paragraph right beside it. Even if you disagree, you did not archive the pic in Larxene's gallery. Soroxas (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Misspelled names

I don't know why you insist on having misspelled names near the beginning of their article since you never left an edit summary. Mistranslations and misspellings occur all the time in media, in some memo or subtitles or whatever. It makes the article look tacky, as if the developers of the series are incompetent. It doesn't make sense to include every misspelling at the beginning. On Yuffie's article, the misspelling of "Yufeie" is also in the Trivia. Soroxas (talk) 17:35, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Depths of Darkness

Why do you consider the Depths of Darkness a "subworld" of Destiny Islands, instead of just another area in the Dark World, like Castle Town and the Forest of Thorns? Sure, it gets its own keyword that flashes, but so does Forest of Thorns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHEqEJsAV1E&feature=youtu.be&t=5590
https://youtu.be/aHEqEJsAV1E?t=3525

And why is it considered a subworld, instead of simply an area/room? At 1:33:20, you can see the player save in the Depths of Darkness, and the Dark World icon still appears in the top right and in the save point. My understanding is that the Depths of Darkness is simply connected to the remnants of Destiny Islands, as opposed to being an actual part of it. Soroxas (talk) 16:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Marluxia

Why hesitate changing Marluxia's render? It's been update to KH3 for Maleficent and Pete already. I get it with Sora cause of the new outfit, but Marluxia looks the same. - JTD95 (talk) 22:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Those are also wrong."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 02:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Long time, no see, amirite?

Hope you love the game. And hope everything is well, here and outside of here too. --DTN Room Core.png 18:52, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: Japanese

天へ続く階段 is the Japanese text for Scala ad Caelum. It's right there in the menu. Only Xehanort calls it スカラ・アド・カエルム during a cutscene. Suzaku (talk) 20:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Probably that, then, though both do mean "Stairway to Heaven" and it's the sole room of the world. Either way, it should be スカラ・アド・カエルム not スカラアドカエルム. Suzaku (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)


KH Info

Just to let you know thanks to the recent videos on Youtube, I was able to get access to the end credits of Kingdom Hearts III. Out of the returning characters aside from Master Xehanort, other new voice actors are also for Vexen's JP voice actor (due to the previous voice actor passing away in 2010), and new English voice actors for Hayner, Pence, and Olette. Just want to give you the info since the day of the International release of Kingdom Hearts III has arrived. Let me know if want any links and I'll make sure to help you avoid any spoilers if you want (I don't mind spoilers, but I prefer not to spoil it for anybody) -Adv193 (talk) 03:05, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

The links should go in the castlist on the main article."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
I did not understand what you meant but I did move them to Talk:Kingdom Hearts III, which you can view them from there and you have my permission if you want to move it and have fun with playing the game. On another matter, I updated the party member list due to watching the leaks on Youtube. Namely all the main characters that fight alongside Sora, excluding Terra will do this in certain boss fights and the player can also directly play as Riku and Aqua for certain situations. Pretty much I knew about all of this for the past few days but held back out of respect for the International release date. -Adv193 (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

World infoboxes

I made a thread about this in the forums, but everyone's been ignoring it lol. Though to be completely fair, there's so much stuff going on at the moment that it's totally understandable that it flew under the radar. So I'm gonna bug you about it! I want to make a very minor change to the world infoboxes, so that they display the world logo by default rather than the world icon. Unfortunately, I honestly don't know how to do this or what it would take. I'm not suggesting any other changes. The reason why I'm insisting on this is because world logos is something that literally every world page has in common, while many lack official world icons. As a result when someone enters one of these pages, all they see on the infobox is a missing red link. Sure you can obviously click on the logo to pull it up, but again, it just looks better if it's already there when you enter it. That's the only change I want to make to the infoboxes, nothing else. The other thing I want to suggest is also to create some sort of default N/A (or just No Image) icon for worlds that don't have one. Destiny Islands from BBS comes to mind, as it's just a fuzzy white ball. Just something so we don't have dead image links populating the infoboxes. But that's secondary to my initial suggestion. Do you think we can do this? --Samoa Joe (talk) 06:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

The infobox is coded to prevent redlinks from showing up, where are you seeing them?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Fixed them. It should now only show images that are actually there."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Aha lol. That makes sense. It was an error! Thanks for fixing it.  :) But all said and done, I still advocate for the logos displaying by default for consistency's sake, you know? --Samoa Joe (talk) 17:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I would disagree with that, as the world icons are much more illustrative of the actual world. The logo is just fancy words."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:36, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
But again, the logos are something they all have in common. It's something that we have for every world. We don't have world icons for The Final World, Scala ad Caelum, the Dark World, Hundred Acre Wood - what else lol? I'm just saying we should go for a little consistency. --Samoa Joe (talk) 19:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
We do not have logos for every world. Regardless, the world icons are more useful for the purpose of illustration than the logos are."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Good Questions on your User Page

Hey Kryten. Been lurking the wiki following my completion of KHIII as a sadistic form of trying to recover from this series' post-partum depression. Finally decided to log in as I liked many of the questions you asked on your user page but did see a couple I think I might know answers to.

When you ask about Terra-Xehanort, Roxas, and Xion and why they don't have to return back to their own time, I guess it's my understanding that they aren't time traveling. Specifically with Roxas and Xion, we know that's the case. Xion is a new replica made by Vexen based on the old data from her original form. They don't say how they had that data so there's a plot hole there, but she's definitely from the present. I don't think she even identified as "Xion" until Sora says her name, at which point I assume that her heart left him and entered her new body, giving her form. With Roxas, he's the heart from within Sora and the replica body that Demyx sneaked out to Ansem the Wise and Ienzo. I guess when they completed the body for Roxas' heart and his heart resonated with Namine, that broke the space barrier and pushed the two together?

Terra-Xehanort is more tricky but I think that it was the present Terra, norted after they were separated. The game even mentions that when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated, it should have been Terra-Xehanort that came back, but instead it was Master Xehanort (which we know because he calls himself his most future/present form). So I guess the implication is that when they reformed as a whole person, Terra was separate, but Master Xehanort norted him again, only this time with just a fraction of his heart and not the whole thing like in BBS. It's poorly explained and mostly conjecture but makes sense to me.

Most of your other questions don't really have answers though. I think they are examples of Nomura deciding to do things 'just because' and hoping we'll forget about the contradictions. As has definitely happened before. LightSymbol Character - Roxas.pngRoxas 19:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Also I'm pretty sure Riku is gay. Maybe that's just me reading into DDD too much though. And since Namine was technically born of Sora, maybe that's part of the attraction to her. I dunno man, this series is weird AF about romance and shipping. LightSymbol Character - Roxas.pngRoxas 19:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, the secret reports indicate that that's true for Roxas and Xion, but it makes a mess of what Roxas said earlier about "the same way you did". Then again, the plot already had a huge contradiction of itself with its insistence up until the end that Dark Riku was Ansem-Riku, when that's already who SoD is and I've literally been claiming Riku Replica as a Seeker since KHDDD came out."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I honestly think that Nomura is just really bad at answering questions and resolving plot points. And he built himself up too high here. I enjoyed the game a lot, even much of the story moments, but anyone trying to think through this series logically, even on its own lore it builds up, is going to need some Tylenol. LightSymbol Character - Roxas.pngRoxas 21:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

KH3 world story events and time from KH2 to KH3

Really Kryten, really?:

  • "as I said before, there is barely any time between KH2 and KH3 for there to be a "before""
  • "getting real damn tired of this. KH3 is set very shortly after KH2, Nomura has already told us that time moves at different paces among the worlds, and the worlds show longterm events happening in the space of a single visit."
Okay I don't know why in the hell you're getting very upest about this but frankly, regardless it doesn't make sense that the events on each world happened overnight or during KH3, some of the story events (e.g. Jack getting consumed by the Krakken, Randall being brought back by Vanitas after being banished by Mike and Sulley in Monstropolis, Scrooge opening the bistro in Twilight Town) happened prior to KH3 events of the stories. That's my opinion and you can continue arguing and making your own reasonings straight from your mouth but literally you need to chlll and stop making this as a nitpick.

Seriously didn't you forgot in BBS which is set 10 years before the first game that Sora, Kairi and Riku were 4 and 5 years old respectively or even Hercules was still a teenage before he became an adult? Just because time moves moves at different paces among the worlds, doesn't mean that certain characters, specifically some of the Disney characters like Ariel, or the Frozen characters like Anna and Elsa were in their current ages during the events of BBS or the first game or Kingdom Hearts II--73.77.161.206 02:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

As Kryten said, there's almost no time between KH2 and KH3. Between BBS and KH1 is a 10-year gap. That's why events happening during those years can be put in a separate header. Since we don't have a clear time period for any of the events you mentioned, everything that happens during KH3 gets put under the KH3 header. An exception for this would be Jack's deal with Davy Jones, because that is confirmed to take place thirteen years before KH3.
"That's my opinion and you can continue arguing and making your own reasonings straight from your mouth but literally you need to chlll and stop making this as a nitpick."
So you're basically saying that your opinion is right, and we should just do that? Because that's not how it works. TheSilentHero 12:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
"An exception for this would be Jack's deal with Davy Jones, because that is confirmed to take place thirteen years before KH3."And Anna's relationship with Elsa as she mentioned "years passed". Don't forget that KH2 that it has been a year since the first game.
"So you're basically saying that your opinion is right, and we should just do that? Because that's not how it works." How in the hell am I saying my opinion is right and the rest of you are wrong? That it isn't the point of the argument Events such as Jack getting consumed by the Krakken, Randall being banished by Mike and Sulley in Monstropolis prior to Vanitas bringing him back, Scrooge meeting Little Chef by opening the bistro in Twilight Town (remember he said he met him "a while ago") don't happen overnight or an instant. It could've been several weeks (not a week) or months that have passed between KH2 and KH3, but as of now, we don't know how long it has been between KH2 and KH3 as Nomura and Square haven't confirmed anything as of now, but I don't think it has been several days or a week if you ask me. Finally just because time moves at different paces among the worlds, doesn't mean that certain characters, specifically some of the Disney characters like for instance Ariel, or the Frozen characters like Anna and Elsa were in their current ages during the events of BBS or the first game or even Kingdom Hearts II because more than likely they have aged just like Sora, Riku and Kairi did.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.21.189 (talk • contribs)
Nomura already clearly said that time on different worlds flows at different rates.
The bistro was not there in KH2. Jack wasn't eaten in KH2. KH3 occurs almost immediately after KH2 closes -- there is not time for these events to have happened other than during the opening scenes of KH3/AFP.
"don't happen overnight or an instant." -- it does, however, happen post-KH2. And that means it happened during the early stages of KH3, because KH3 is directly after KH2.
"It could've been several weeks (not a week) or months that have passed between KH2 and KH3," -- it could not have. We have that time accounted for. The deluxe edition artbook even provides a timeline. KH2 closes when they receive the letter, post Re:coded, they travel to Yen Sid's tower for the test (which outside the realm of sleep occurs over the course of basically a day, as the two boys are sent back in time for it to start), and then AFP/KH3 begins. Anything for any of the characters who show up in both KH2 and KH3 either happened during KH2 or KH3 -- there isn't a notable "between". The Mark of Mastery, for the outside world, covers less time than the period from Sora setting out for Olympus and arriving on each world.
Not sure why you're bringing up Monstropolis or Arendelle, as those don't appear in KH2. I suppose you could argue that Vanitas appearing at TWTNW in KH3D means he couldn't start working in Monstropolis until he had moved forward in time again, thus putting it during KH3, but I wasn't making that claim."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:34, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
"it does, however, happen post-KH2. And that means it happened during the early stages of KH3, because KH3 is directly after KH2. -Okay it hasn't been a year as recently a Union Cross quiz said that Sora was still 15 years old as of Kingdom Hearts III, but honestly between KH2 to KH3 it feels more like 1-2 days but less than 3-7 days since after the events of Kingdom Hearts II.--172.58.102.235 17:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
"It could not have. We have that time accounted for. The deluxe edition artbook even provides a timeline. KH2 closes when they receive the letter, post Re:coded, they travel to Yen Sid's tower for the test (which outside the realm of sleep occurs over the course of basically a day, as the two boys are sent back in time for it to start), and then AFP/KH3 begins. Anything for any of the characters who show up in both KH2 and KH3 either happened during KH2 or KH3 -- there isn't a notable "between". The Mark of Mastery, for the outside world, covers less time than the period from Sora setting out for Olympus and arriving on each world." - Okay then your right, it hasn't been a year as recently a Union Cross quiz said that Sora was still 15 (since KH2) as of Dream Drop Distance and Kingdom Hearts III, but honestly it feels more than just a day, more than likely 1-2 days if you ask me after Kingdom Hearts II.
"Not sure why you're bringing up Monstropolis or Arendelle, as those don't appear in KH2." - I disagree with your comment even if some of the films those worlds were based on (aside from Toy Story and Monster's Inc.) didn't existed when KH2 came out, I pretty sure that the KH3 Disney worlds like Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, among others more than likely still existed as worlds prior to their actual story events in KH3. The same can be said for Tron in KH2 who mentioned about Space Paranoids being a copy of the original version from ENCOM, which turns out to be the Tron: Legacy world (which mind you the film didn't existed when KH2 came out, but was added in DDD to connect what tron said in KH2). Also while it's true "time flows differently" in worlds (more specifically the Disney worlds than the Original worlds like Twilight Town, Radiant Garden, and Destiny Islands), it doesn't mean that everyone ages differently between the different worlds. I mean think about it the FF characters that resided in Radiant Garden aged a year between KH and KH2 (Yuffie was 16 in KH and 17 during KH2. She more than likely was 6 years old during the events of BBS), secondly for Atlantica, Ariel was 16 years old during the events of Kingdom Hearts and she was presumably 17 years old during Kingdom Hearts III (at least that's what I saw from the original KH2 website.--172.58.102.235 17:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. You're making a lot of claims about ages that aren't supported by the games, and the reason it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle is because it provides no evidence whatsoever."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
"Your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever." - In what way does it not make sense?
"You're making a lot of claims about ages that aren't supported by the games, and the reason it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle is because it provides no evidence whatsoever." All I'm saying is that while yes "Time flows differently" in the worlds (specifically the Disney worlds) in doesn't necesarily mean it ALSO applies to the original worlds like Radiant Garden or Twilight Town flowing differently than Destiny Islands. Secondly, it makes NO sense on what you said on the Disney worlds (Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, San Fransokyo) didn't existing at all prior to KH3. True the films didn't existed when Kingdom Hearts II came out but as its has been 1-2 days after KH2 they still existed as worlds otherwise during the pre-KH3 events. Same can be said on the Disney worlds in DDD (particularly the Grid from "Tron: Legacy") as they are dream representation of the worlds that were destroyed by the Heartless prior to the events of the first game. Continue arguing till the cows come home but that's enough already, with your arguments and whatever your beliefs are.--73.77.161.206 16:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
"In what way does it not make sense?" -- in the exact way I already stated. Please learn how to read, or stop spamming my talk page. One or the other.
"All I'm saying is that while yes" -- No, you made specific claims about Yuffie and Ariel's ages which have absolutely no support in the canon. It's completely nonsensical puffery, because you're basically saying "well, if I imagine that I'm right, that means I'm right!" You're pulling an assumption out of your ass and pretending like it should mean something to anyone but you.
I already explained why it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle. They do not support your argument at all, because they are completely irrelevant to the question at hand. The only examples you've brought up that were even vaguely relevant to the topic (of identifying when certain events could be dated, given the existing canon) were your claims about Jack getting consumed by the Kraken, or Randall being brought back by Vanitas "not making sense to have happened overnight" -- which, while at least being on topic, are completely false. Jack has to have been eaten overnight, because he was still alive at the end of KH2. For Randall, the events of Monstropolis imply that Randall just got back that night.
"Secondly, it makes NO sense on what you said on the Disney worlds (Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, San Fransokyo) didn't existing at all prior to KH3." -- I never said anything even slightly similar to this. Your responses paint you as paying little to no attention to the discussion, while simultaneously being very certain you want to "win" it. It's a complete waste of time bordering on trolling or vandalism.
Bringing up Arendelle makes no sense because no one was even disputing that Anna and Elsa's childhood happened years before KH3. The fact that Arendelle has no other mentions in the series also means that it absolutely cannot be used to date anything.
"Continue arguing till the cows come home" is disingenuous, contemptuous bullshit. If you're not interested in having a good faith discussion, then why not just stop spewing on my talk page just to get the "last word"? I'm not interested in continuing this discussion, since you've shown absolutely no proof that you even understand the claim you're attempting to argue with. Either start acting in good faith, or just go away."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hollow Bastion/Castle Oblivion

I'm not sure I quite follow. Are you suggesting that there should be a separate article for the memory-version of Hollow Bastion? In that case doesn't that go for all the worlds that appear within Castle Oblivion as well as all the worlds that appear within the Datascape? - JTD95 (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

KH3 Battle Sprites

So, since I obviously don't get it, what IS the proper name and format I need for the KH3 battle sprites I have uploaded? I thought I was following the media policy well, specifically, I also followed how Aqua's 0.2 sprites were on their page, because I ripped them the same way.--BuddyFaith (talk) 20:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Ultimania Renders

A lot have been released online, albeit as low-quality scans. Would you say we can still use these in our articles? I'm concerned about the ones which would serve as a particular article's "main image." I can upload as many renders as I can when I get home from work tonight, but I would like to know how you feel about this: Lady Junky uploaded the Dark Riku official render, but her attempt to remove the background leaves much to be desired (mainly because the color of Riku's hair matches the scan background). Would you say we should remove the backgrounds (may take some time), or would the backgrounds included be okay for now? Obviously, we would use {{betterpic}}... - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 16:00, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

I would think we're definitely going to get better pics once shard gets his copy, so I don't mind either way."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:01, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Sora Heartless

Sora's Heartless: Shadow/Neo Darkside/AntiSora forms are covered on the list, but his state after recovering his physical form is not. --Vanitas (talk) 16:49, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Those forms are treated as separate physical entities, even though they stem from the same source, by the ultimania."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Ah gotcha. Would the physical form be considered separate since it's technically listed as "Sora" in the journal? --Vanitas (talk) 17:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Riku/Ansem

Is it ever said that Riku's heart was expelled? I though him showing up in 0.2 was him reforming immediately after Ansem's defeat. --Vanitas (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah I found it, in KHFM they show Riku after having his heart expelled from Ansem's body. --Vanitas (talk) 21:51, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts VR Experience

I just created a page for the VR Experience (since we didn't have one), but if I'm being honest....I have no idea what the hell I'm doing lol. >_< I can't get the tiny little icon to show up, nor can I find the main page portal template. If you can help me out with this, it'd be swell.  :( --Samoa Joe (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

The Game template is basically a display, while the Gameicon template actually houses the images. The portal is at Main_Page/Game_Portals. To track down where components of a page are, you want to look at Templates used on this page toward the bottom of a page while editing it."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. :D As if it wasn't obvious enough lol, I only know the bare minimum when it comes to editing stuff! --Samoa Joe (talk) 19:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Retiring

I'm working with good faith here, but you're sapping my motivation to do anything on the site when you are constantly editing or reverting any contributions I make, often with minimal explanation. Statements like "Not relevant, removing spec" don't really leave me with any understanding of what is acceptable and what is not. I know I've not been here long, but in the face of my contributions consistently not being up to par, I'm choosing to quit the site. - Joveus (talk) 20:23, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Adamant

Does it share the same kana as Adamant Shield and Adamant Belt? If so should there be a disambiguation page for them instead? - Joseph Thorn Dalton XCVSymbol Character - Vanitas.png 13:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

208.94.76.25

If this guy keeps causing problems, why not block him? --Yellowlightning1996 (talk) 18:19, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding new images

I have a replacement image for From Chains to Bonds, but adding images on this type of wiki is very different than what I'am used too. --Yellowlightning1996 (talk) 19:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

What you need me do."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

How do I upload images properly on this wiki? --Yellowlightning1996 (talk) 22:34, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Special:Upload, it needs to be png, and it needs to be official (not tweaked by you)."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

In that case, I think I'll pass on that. I don't want to cause problems. --Yellowlightning1996 (talk) 14:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Links to official terms

[1] Why do we need pages for every official term? Things like the United Galactic Federation are only briefly mentioned (I don't know if it's even mentioned in the story, or just journal entries), and since we don't take information from source material, there's pretty much no information to make a page for. TheSilentHero 13:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Star ocean at least is a major topic. I think we can write up at least some material on the UGF, considering what we're told in the Deep Space world, though I suppose the Grand Councilwoman naturally embodies the Federation and especially the council, so we could cover that all on her page. I would think a redirect to her page would work, and mention that the ship and Gantu are members as well?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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