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Bye Y'all it's been fun but not as fun as spending time with Adelaide okay bye.

KH & KHFM gummi enemies

Yes I know, it's a bit early to talk about them, the KHII section isn't even finished yet. But maybe you have an idea how to adapt the template for them. This is an extreme example from the Ultimania. Not every ship has two variants (Omega is the only ship that as a "C" variant) or sub variants (they just seem to affect the drops, maybe they are the "before/after rescue" equivalents, I don't know). Nearly every main variant (A, B or C) has a different Final Mix appearance, the stats are the same though.--ShardofTruth 22:41, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

notes

Sora's profile updates after Agrabah Donald, Goofy, Data-Riku after Hollow Bastion 1

Note: I believe this "update" is only the addition of new sprites to the gallery and not an actual update to the entry itself --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 20:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Emblem Piece: A fragment of the Heartless emblem. Collect more of these and something is bound to happen...
Mystery Piece: A shiny fragment. Collect more of these and something is bound to happen...
Debug Device: R: Destroys one of the red bug chips that obstruct slots in the Stat Matrix.
Debug Device: Y: Destroys one of the yellow bug chips that obstruct slots in the Stat Matrix.

Bug Chip: R - You can destroy this by using a Debug Device: R.
Bug Chip: Y - You can destroy this by using a Debug Device: Y.

Boiling Point
Zero to Hero
Omnislash

Goofy Turbo
Goofy Tornado
Donald Firaga
Donald Thundaga
Spinner Ray

Ask for Help

Agrabah simulacrum: 3 Core Blox at once

Hollow Bastion II - all chips are reduced to % of matrix power.

page-specific breadcrumbs?

chips: quest rewards, mini-quest rewards, drop from enemies, drop from blox, boss rewards, sector prizes, shop, melding.

cerberus, rock titan, ice titan are sources cloud - cerberus quote twilighters in traverse town spend less than 45 seeconds on the ground! (agrabah last 2nd floor) traverse town final sector challenge 3: spend less than 60 seconds on the ground oc encounter dropped magnega

userboxes for #trophies?

Tell Shard: "14" is sometimes marked in gold in English Re:coded.

confirm: http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Difficulty_Level&curid=37582&diff=474856&oldid=472947

http://pastebin.com/hz552ySA

Finish organizing:

Bottle ingredient KHBBS.png
Cake ingredient KHBBS.png
Candy ingredient KHBBS.png
Topping ingredient KHBBS.png
Spice ingredient KHBBS.png

prune file talk and category talk

http://i56.tinypic.com/2570l0w.bmp http://i52.tinypic.com/rkzkec.bmp

闇の世界に堕ちてしまったアクア

Re:coded orbs:

Munny
HP
Agrabah clock(?)
Olympus Coliseum points(?)
Hollow Bastion Matrix Power
SP prizes

OC notes

Licenses

Timing-L (Combat)
Defense-L (Combat)
Strength-L (Combat)
Auto-Life-L (Combat)
Regen-L (Combat)
Scout-L (Map)
Break-L (Map)
Auto-Block-L (Combat)
Reload-L (Combat)
Charge-L (Combat)
Escape-L (Combat)
Reload-Boost-L (Combat)
Entrap-L: Ensures you get a preemptive strike in every battle throughout the current layer. (Map)

OC commands [LV1-5, slot number varies]

Subjugate
Explosion
Random License
Friend Cure
Faithblade
Freeze Line
Breath of Zeus
Zeus's Spear
Blade Line
Sonic Line
Sonic Surge
Star of Faith

OC orbs

OC enemy techs

Air Soldier - Knuckle Hammer
Shadow - Claw Lunge
Soldier - Kick Storm
Yellow Opera - Thunder
Red Nocturne - Fire
Blue Rhapsody - Blizzard
Green Requiem - Cure
Large Body - Charge, Jumping Jolt
Bandit - Slash
Fat Bandit - Jumping Jolt, Ball of Flame
Wizard - Rolling Blizzara, Random Thundara, Speed Fira
Darkball - Chomp
Defender - Shield Bite, Fira, Blizzara
Wyvern - Corkscrew Charge, Flurry Kick
Invisible - Darkball, Scourge
Black Fungus - Dark Contact
Cloud - Omnislash
Cerberus - Firaga Ball, Triple Chomp
Hades - Summon Shadow
Rock Titan (Wristbands) - Haymaker, Earthshaker
Behemoth - Stomp, Dark Pulse
Ice Titan (Leather Gloves) - Ice Lance

JPN names for Quest items

Destiny Islands:
Traverse Town:
Wonderland:
Olympus Coliseum:
Agrabah:

Ay, dios mio! I might be late tomorrow. - Erry 16:08, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

hello, KrytenKoro.

transcribed text shall upload to here. http://files.myopera.com/itochan/blog/kh.txt

wait several hours :) 118.86.63.184 16:28, February 1, 2011 (UTC) itochan

http://i56.tinypic.com/2570l0w.bmp

http://i52.tinypic.com/rkzkec.bmp おはなし　　アクアシークレットエピソード

闇の世界に堕ちてしまったアクア。テラに絆を託して光の世界へ送り返したその手には自身のキーブレードはない。つながりのお守りを心の拠り所にして歩き続けていたアクアは、闇の世界に突然起きた異変を目の当たりにする。異変の原因を確かめようと急いだアクアは闇に巣くう魔物の襲撃を受ける。アンヴァースとは異なる魔物の襲撃を辛くも目の当たりにする。異変の原因を確かめようと急いだアクアは闇に巣くう魔物の襲撃を受ける。アンヴァースとは異なる魔物の襲撃を辛くも退けたアクア。さらに歩を進めたアクアは視界に飛び込んできた光景を疑わずにはいられなかった。そこにはかつてアクアが訪れた世界『キャッスル・オブ・ドリーム』の城がそびえ立っていた。

キャラクター事典　　メインキャラクター

ノーハート

キーブレードを操る何者かが鎧をまとった姿。その正体は定かではない。

フレイムボックス

相手が吐き出す隕石をロックオンして素早く壊していこう。

隕石に当たるとタイムロスにつながるので、シュートロックコマンドや広範囲に効果があるマジックコマンドを使うと攻略しやすいぞ！

サバイバルボトル

攻撃を当てるとHPが回復する。煙を噴き出すので、連続して攻撃を叩きこもう。

回復コマンドを使えばHPを維持することができるので、複数デッキに装備しておくのも有効だ！

ロストランナー

攻撃をしてくることはないが素早く逃げ回るため、力押しでは攻略が難しい。

レベルの高いシュートロックコマンドや広範囲にダメージを与えられるコマンドを使ってまとめて倒そう！

ダイエットタンク

バルブのついた背中を攻撃したいが、なかなか背を向けない時や、背後に回り込みづらいときには相手が攻撃を仕掛けてくるのを待とう。

ガードカウンターが成功すると背中を向けることがあるので、そこが最大のチャンスだ！一気に攻撃をたたみかけよう。

遠距離からの攻撃だと、ボールを落としても拾われてしまうので接近しつつ、攻撃を与えてボールを奪おう。

相手が攻撃を仕掛けてきたらガードカウンターのチャンスだぞ！しっかりと攻撃を見きわめよう。

中央にいる敵の属性と同じ属性で攻撃する為に、まずはファイア系ブリザド系サンダー系のコマンドをデッキにセットしよう。

コマンドスタイルの属性攻撃も有効なので、同じ属性の時には一気にポイントを稼ぐチャンスだ！

シェイドジェリー

いつものように大群で出現してくるので、とにかく休むことなく連続して攻撃することが重要だ。

素早く繰り出せる広範囲のデッキコマンドを使って、一気にやっつけよう！

ランチングプラント

一定以上の攻撃を与えると空中に浮かびあがるので、ヒット数の多いコマンドで攻撃しよう。

一度地面に落ちてしまうとタイムロスにつながってしまうので、休むことなく攻撃し続けることが攻略のカギだ！

Secret Episode enemies:

Stuff that needs doing

"Kingdom Hearts"
- parsing
- cleanup
KH1 abilities organization
- combo plus, etc.
Separating Limits, Limit Breaks
Quotes
KHWiki:Project Music
Something about images?
Forum:Notes 08, (KHIIFM, Cutscenes) - ShardofTruth
Review Sora

--Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 05:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Gauge Article

Please see this and its talk page. Thanks! - Eternal Nothingness XIII 01:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

List

Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Dream Eater
- individual Dream Eater articles
Reality Shift
Flowmotion
Link System
True Organization XIII
Sleeping Worlds
Young Xehanort's Keyblade
Flick Rush
Another Guardian of Light
Game:Young Xehanort
Lea's Keyblade
KH3D Keyblades
KH3D worlds
- Characters

Updated

In progress:

Deck Command (KH3D) (Talk:Deck Command (KH3D))
- individual ability articles

Still to do:

SDCC

Hey Kryten, it's that time of year where I go to San Diego Comic Con and ask you if there's anything in particular you want me to photograph or anything you'd like me to attend in particular. I'll be there on Saturday, I'm not exactly sure if there's anything that Square Enix is doing that's KH related, but let me know! ColdAsFire 06:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I wouldn't even begin to know. Maybe start a forum?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Some concerns

Okay, I would like to know how it's possible one person such as Byzantinefire to be able to have so many different IP addresses. Seriously, he's been banned on them so often, it's not even funny anymore :-/ --Doggieboy9 (talk) 01:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Dunno. We have tools to prevent it now, tho."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Email...delay...

Hey there. Sorry this is so very, very late. (Like since July >_<). I'm not sure what Facebook page you're talking about...I'm already a member of the one we created like five years ago.. Regardless. Sorry about that, this should fix it. Xion4 ever 02:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Just checking...

Do you still want these pages deleted?--Ninja Sheik 19:44, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Demote

I'm sad to see another user go, considering how small the community is, but I know that you haven't be on lately because of RL stuff. Before you go, though, you need to revoke your user rights. Neumz isn't around, either, and only bcrats can demote other users. Just giving you a reminder.--Ninja Sheik 21:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations!

You're now the wiki's very first janitor. TheSilent Hero 09:57, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Yussss."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 09:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

"removed just a ton of purposeful policy violation"

Just so you know, I didn't purposefully violate any policy by adding links to drafts.

My last edit to the KH3 template was 14:51. TheSilentHero raised concern about whether or not we should link to drafts on 16:45.

I hope you're simply misinformed, as I appreciate honesty. If there was a "no linking to drafts" rule, then I wasn't aware of it. Soroxas (talk) 19:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Why people saying Famitsu confirmed Aquanort

People translated the yellow box on this image from Famitsu, which I'll show you where the translation came of 'confirmation' came from, which could be why are treating it as 'confirmation'.:

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.79.246 (talk • contribs)

Warning 1

I'm not laughing!

This is a warning for hostile behavior towards other users, false accusations of bad faith.

Your edits have been reverted; please do not attempt to repeat them.
If you wish to do test edits, you are welcome to do so here.

— Keyblade Spy Master 18:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

KeybladeSpyMaster - You're actions are totally illogical.
TALK -

- You've done enough! - 12:12 PM Sat, June 23, 2018 MDT

CODE 0x1SF1XKSMDRK: EMERGENCY

Unfortunately, Kryten, I don't find that your behavior has been very helpful in de-escalating the hostility regarding the KH3 navbox template. Although there are various instances where you were more civil towards the anonymous IP, there were also plenty instances where you failed to do so. Even though he/she is being stubborn, that of course doesn't mean you can be so.

Specifically, you falsely accused the IP of bad faith this week. However, I've reviewed the edits, and you did not revert all the IP's edits. That to me shows that their edits are not necessarily of bad faith, simply part of them are based in their own stubbornness. In fact, you re-added part of an edit you had reverted from this IP. False accusations of bad faith are, well, bad; one cannot assume the true intentions of an editor simply because they're insisting on their view point, even if it's against site policy and they know it. There's a significant difference between disagreeing with site policy and acting with malicious intent. As explained on Wikipedia regarding good faith, "editors should not attribute the actions being criticized to malice unless there is specific evidence of such." (Wikipedia:Assume Good Faith) So, this is your warning on the matter. Don't engage in disruptive or accusatory behavior with other users; it's easier to take action against disruptive users when you yourself are "clearly acting appropriately throughout."

END OF LINE

Is this the edit you're talking about?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry about that. I wasn't paying close enough attention. The film seemed to frame the green-haired character as the Player, but looking at the intro, he has brown hair. Also, sorry about posting those background removal requests. I'm still kinda new. It has been fixed, however. -- User:Raitomidnight555/Sig 14:01, 03 July 2018 (CT)

Dude, that's okay. I was just correcting it, not chastising you."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Re:Wikia

I saw it in the Keyhole yesterday. I had always feared that there would be trouble because of the acquisition of fandom. Byzantinefire would have to know, because he had been active here. In the keyhole they should definitely insert a template during the upload with the summary, so like here. In the german Kingdom Hearts Wiki I add the link for files to KHWiki.com. I know that the cleaning of pictures is a hard work. I am not angry about you. :) Since Fandom killed the monobook skin, I'm a little annoyed about it.

Now you also get the portable info box forced, and many functions in the old templates are no longer working. I wish the best for your project here, because you have the best source of information here. Sorry for my bad english. I am a grammar devil. >:D Pain88 (talk) 13:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can not play KHUX right now, I don't have the time. Sorry.
At the moment I am still trying to find information for KHII for the german KH Wiki. Since our articles there have to be revised again. Since SQEX Germany had also made various translations of the names in the abilitys, it makes it difficult for me to compare the information here with the english name of the abilitys. It was hard for me to find the abilities for Re:Com with the german names and to compare them here with the english ones. But I finally finished that. But I'm too lazy to create the articles for the abilitys. :) with the best regards Pain88 (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, this Fandom employee had undone it yesterday and if I change it again, I risk a block. They also ran a bot that also removed other links to here. Images that ShardofTruth created, have at least some meta-data, that contains that the images only for KHWiki.com is. Fandom is becoming more and more arrogant. They have also bought up the old domain name for our old independent KH Wikia. Fandom considers this wiki here as competition. Jimmy Wales and his staff are all about profits. If they overdo it or take over one-to-one articles from you, they would have to report it because of DMCA's violation via their special contact. At the moment we just have to keep watching the keyhole. Pain88 (talk) 21:38, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Honestly...we tried being polite and friendly, and asking them to display basic civility, honesty, and decency. They have to know by now that their behavior is what keeps chasing away dedicated editors, so...fuck, if they want to chase away dedicated editors and spit on those trying to reach out an olive branch, who are we to stop them? Maybe someday they'll figure out why they keep having to stick more and more ads into the sites in order to maintain their bottom line."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 11:55, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

The Experiment is an Heartless

Hi, sorry for bothering you here, but I see nobody see what I write in the discussion page of The Experiment (https://www.khwiki.com/Talk:The_Experiment), but I discovered another thing that proof he is a Heartless without any doubt. How already was sayed in the page, ingame in pause menu he is called Heartless and in the TCG he is classified as a Heartless, but there is another proof. If the Experiment is killed with Wisdom Form (that gain EXP ONLY if you kill Heartless), the WF gain EXP from The Experiment, I proved this with other bosses, I killed Xigbar with Final Form (since gain EXP killing Nobodies) and it gain EXP, and I tried too to kill the Hostile Program with WF thinking it was a Heartless, but the WF DON'T gain any EXP from the Hostile Program, but from The Experiment and other Heartless boss it does, so, this proof without any doubt he is a Heartless, otherwise the WF will not gain any EXP from him.--186.237.40.21 10:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I'd like to confirm what you're claiming for myself, but I don't think we can say "without any doubt" -- there are other parts of the game that do not treat it as a Heartless, like the journal. It does fade away similar to a Pureblood Heartless, moreso than Scar did. I believe it would be some sort of pseudo-Heartless, similar to how the Soul Eater is a pseudo-Keyblade."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

The Journal just placed The Experiment in "character section" thing that already happen to others Heartless (Ansem), even Nobodies (all Organization, Naminé), Unversed (Vanitas Sentiment) and Dream Eaters (Riku and Anti Black Coat), so, be in Character section don't mean "he is not a Heartless/Nobody/Unversed/Dream Eater) and the game never say "he is not a Heartless", neither his creation method means nothing. Shadow Sora and AntiSora was created in a different way from others Heartless, but still they are considered Heartless, and all proofs say he is a Heartless. About the pseudo-Keyblade I never understand, we saw others objects that was used to became/summon the Keyblade (Struggle Bat in 1st and 4th day of Roxas in KH2 and Wooden Stick of Roxas in 6th day in KH2, and I doubt they are pseudo-Keyblade), and the Soul Eater was called Keyblade just in KH Mobile, and is not even canon that game, in any other official source it is never considered a Keyblade, in 358 is classified as a sword, and in none game anybody consider it a Keyblade.--186.237.40.21 18:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

The Soul Eater thing is referring to Mobile, the Soul Eater's demonstrated abilities compared to dialogue/reports in Days and BbS, and statements from Nomura. That is why I called it a pseudo-Keyblade.

The Journal clearly delineates the bulk of Heartless and Nobodies from the rest of the characters, and except for these very three in question, the only ones it leaves on the character lists are those that retained their human form and personality. It does not mean it is definitely not a Heartless, but it's not a point in its favor."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I think Journal add to characters the H/N/U/DE that have a huge role in the story of at least 1 world. The Experiment is quite important in Halloween Town story in KH2 secon visit, so they considered it as a true character even if he is a Heartless. For the Soul Eater, ok, but since is pseudo I don't think should be listed with others Keyblades, but this is a my opinione, and don't make part of the The Experiment's race thing.--170.244.153.233 21:32, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Image moving

If you're going to be moving a lot of images to different filenames, please remember to update it on the articles/galleries. It's wiki etiquette. Soroxas (talk) 09:17, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I have another question. If 350px is the default size for infobox images, why is Mickey, Donald and Goofy, among many others, 250px? Soroxas (talk) 20:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. It looks like it was changed at some point between now and Halloween 2012. I've gone in and fixed Mickey's."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Recent edits

I strongly disagree with the removal of talk sprites in Galleries. They are official art designed for the game, ripped by fans, just like the Days talk sprites. It's a nonsensical double standard why Days talk sprites are allowed and not COM. If you use the argument "they're also used as someone's personal textbox", I don't see why it means we can not allow them on the Galleries. There are many instances where pics are on both mainspace articles and used on people talk pages, in their templates, etc. It does not have to be "one or the other" and there is no harm them in Galleries. I view it as overt pedanticism hurting the wiki and preventing official art from being archived and easily available.

If a character is exclusive to Union X, they should not be in the standard X category, or we're being dishonest. We should specify differences between X and Union X. Unfortunately, I haven't played either so I'm not entirely familiar with who's in which, but from my understanding, Lauriam and Brain are not in the original X.

Larxene slapping Naminé is also a perfect illustration of her "cold", "ruthless" and "uncaring" personality mentioned in the paragraph right beside it. Even if you disagree, you did not archive the pic in Larxene's gallery. Soroxas (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Misspelled names

I don't know why you insist on having misspelled names near the beginning of their article since you never left an edit summary. Mistranslations and misspellings occur all the time in media, in some memo or subtitles or whatever. It makes the article look tacky, as if the developers of the series are incompetent. It doesn't make sense to include every misspelling at the beginning. On Yuffie's article, the misspelling of "Yufeie" is also in the Trivia. Soroxas (talk) 17:35, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Depths of Darkness

Why do you consider the Depths of Darkness a "subworld" of Destiny Islands, instead of just another area in the Dark World, like Castle Town and the Forest of Thorns? Sure, it gets its own keyword that flashes, but so does Forest of Thorns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHEqEJsAV1E&feature=youtu.be&t=5590

https://youtu.be/aHEqEJsAV1E?t=3525

And why is it considered a subworld, instead of simply an area/room? At 1:33:20, you can see the player save in the Depths of Darkness, and the Dark World icon still appears in the top right and in the save point. My understanding is that the Depths of Darkness is simply connected to the remnants of Destiny Islands, as opposed to being an actual part of it. Soroxas (talk) 16:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Marluxia

Why hesitate changing Marluxia's render? It's been update to KH3 for Maleficent and Pete already. I get it with Sora cause of the new outfit, but Marluxia looks the same. - JTD95 (talk) 22:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Those are also wrong."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 02:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Long time, no see, amirite?

Hope you love the game. And hope everything is well, here and outside of here too. --^D T N 18:52, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: Japanese

天へ続く階段 is the Japanese text for Scala ad Caelum. It's right there in the menu. Only Xehanort calls it スカラ・アド・カエルム during a cutscene. Suzaku (talk) 20:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Probably that, then, though both do mean "Stairway to Heaven" and it's the sole room of the world. Either way, it should be スカラ・アド・カエルム not スカラアドカエルム. Suzaku (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

KH Info

Just to let you know thanks to the recent videos on Youtube, I was able to get access to the end credits of Kingdom Hearts III. Out of the returning characters aside from Master Xehanort, other new voice actors are also for Vexen's JP voice actor (due to the previous voice actor passing away in 2010), and new English voice actors for Hayner, Pence, and Olette. Just want to give you the info since the day of the International release of Kingdom Hearts III has arrived. Let me know if want any links and I'll make sure to help you avoid any spoilers if you want (I don't mind spoilers, but I prefer not to spoil it for anybody) -Adv193 (talk) 03:05, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

The links should go in the castlist on the main article."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

I did not understand what you meant but I did move them to Talk:Kingdom Hearts III, which you can view them from there and you have my permission if you want to move it and have fun with playing the game. On another matter, I updated the party member list due to watching the leaks on Youtube. Namely all the main characters that fight alongside Sora, excluding Terra will do this in certain boss fights and the player can also directly play as Riku and Aqua for certain situations. Pretty much I knew about all of this for the past few days but held back out of respect for the International release date. -Adv193 (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

World infoboxes

I made a thread about this in the forums, but everyone's been ignoring it lol. Though to be completely fair, there's so much stuff going on at the moment that it's totally understandable that it flew under the radar. So I'm gonna bug you about it! I want to make a very minor change to the world infoboxes, so that they display the world logo by default rather than the world icon. Unfortunately, I honestly don't know how to do this or what it would take. I'm not suggesting any other changes. The reason why I'm insisting on this is because world logos is something that literally every world page has in common, while many lack official world icons. As a result when someone enters one of these pages, all they see on the infobox is a missing red link. Sure you can obviously click on the logo to pull it up, but again, it just looks better if it's already there when you enter it. That's the only change I want to make to the infoboxes, nothing else. The other thing I want to suggest is also to create some sort of default N/A (or just No Image) icon for worlds that don't have one. Destiny Islands from BBS comes to mind, as it's just a fuzzy white ball. Just something so we don't have dead image links populating the infoboxes. But that's secondary to my initial suggestion. Do you think we can do this? --Samoa Joe (talk) 06:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

The infobox is coded to prevent redlinks from showing up, where are you seeing them?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Fixed them. It should now only show images that are actually there."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Aha lol. That makes sense. It was an error! Thanks for fixing it. :) But all said and done, I still advocate for the logos displaying by default for consistency's sake, you know? --Samoa Joe (talk) 17:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

I would disagree with that, as the world icons are much more illustrative of the actual world. The logo is just fancy words."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:36, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

But again, the logos are something they all have in common. It's something that we have for every world. We don't have world icons for The Final World, Scala ad Caelum, the Dark World, Hundred Acre Wood - what else lol? I'm just saying we should go for a little consistency. --Samoa Joe (talk) 19:02, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

We do not have logos for every world. Regardless, the world icons are more useful for the purpose of illustration than the logos are."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Good Questions on your User Page

Hey Kryten. Been lurking the wiki following my completion of KHIII as a sadistic form of trying to recover from this series' post-partum depression. Finally decided to log in as I liked many of the questions you asked on your user page but did see a couple I think I might know answers to.

When you ask about Terra-Xehanort, Roxas, and Xion and why they don't have to return back to their own time, I guess it's my understanding that they aren't time traveling. Specifically with Roxas and Xion, we know that's the case. Xion is a new replica made by Vexen based on the old data from her original form. They don't say how they had that data so there's a plot hole there, but she's definitely from the present. I don't think she even identified as "Xion" until Sora says her name, at which point I assume that her heart left him and entered her new body, giving her form. With Roxas, he's the heart from within Sora and the replica body that Demyx sneaked out to Ansem the Wise and Ienzo. I guess when they completed the body for Roxas' heart and his heart resonated with Namine, that broke the space barrier and pushed the two together?

Terra-Xehanort is more tricky but I think that it was the present Terra, norted after they were separated. The game even mentions that when Xemnas and Ansem were defeated, it should have been Terra-Xehanort that came back, but instead it was Master Xehanort (which we know because he calls himself his most future/present form). So I guess the implication is that when they reformed as a whole person, Terra was separate, but Master Xehanort norted him again, only this time with just a fraction of his heart and not the whole thing like in BBS. It's poorly explained and mostly conjecture but makes sense to me.

Most of your other questions don't really have answers though. I think they are examples of Nomura deciding to do things 'just because' and hoping we'll forget about the contradictions. As has definitely happened before. LightRoxas 19:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Also I'm pretty sure Riku is gay. Maybe that's just me reading into DDD too much though. And since Namine was technically born of Sora, maybe that's part of the attraction to her. I dunno man, this series is weird AF about romance and shipping. Light

Roxas 19:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, the secret reports indicate that that's true for Roxas and Xion, but it makes a mess of what Roxas said earlier about "the same way you did". Then again, the plot already had a huge contradiction of itself with its insistence up until the end that Dark Riku was Ansem-Riku, when that's already who SoD is and I've literally been claiming Riku Replica as a Seeker since KHDDD came out."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I honestly think that Nomura is just really bad at answering questions and resolving plot points. And he built himself up too high here. I enjoyed the game a lot, even much of the story moments, but anyone trying to think through this series logically, even on its own lore it builds up, is going to need some Tylenol. Light

Roxas 21:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

KH3 world story events and time from KH2 to KH3

Really Kryten, really?:

"as I said before, there is barely any time between KH2 and KH3 for there to be a "before""
"getting real damn tired of this. KH3 is set very shortly after KH2, Nomura has already told us that time moves at different paces among the worlds, and the worlds show longterm events happening in the space of a single visit."

Okay I don't know why in the hell you're getting very upest about this but frankly, regardless it doesn't make sense that the events on each world happened overnight or during KH3, some of the story events (e.g. Jack getting consumed by the Krakken, Randall being brought back by Vanitas after being banished by Mike and Sulley in Monstropolis, Scrooge opening the bistro in Twilight Town) happened prior to KH3 events of the stories. That's my opinion and you can continue arguing and making your own reasonings straight from your mouth but literally you need to chlll and stop making this as a nitpick.

Seriously didn't you forgot in BBS which is set 10 years before the first game that Sora, Kairi and Riku were 4 and 5 years old respectively or even Hercules was still a teenage before he became an adult? Just because time moves moves at different paces among the worlds, doesn't mean that certain characters, specifically some of the Disney characters like Ariel, or the Frozen characters like Anna and Elsa were in their current ages during the events of BBS or the first game or Kingdom Hearts II--73.77.161.206 02:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

As Kryten said, there's almost no time between KH2 and KH3. Between BBS and KH1 is a 10-year gap. That's why events happening during those years can be put in a separate header. Since we don't have a clear time period for any of the events you mentioned, everything that happens during KH3 gets put under the KH3 header. An exception for this would be Jack's deal with Davy Jones, because that is confirmed to take place thirteen years before KH3.

"That's my opinion and you can continue arguing and making your own reasonings straight from your mouth but literally you need to chlll and stop making this as a nitpick."

So you're basically saying that your opinion is right, and we should just do that? Because that's not how it works. TheSilent Hero 12:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

"An exception for this would be Jack's deal with Davy Jones, because that is confirmed to take place thirteen years before KH3."And Anna's relationship with Elsa as she mentioned "years passed". Don't forget that KH2 that it has been a year since the first game.

"So you're basically saying that your opinion is right, and we should just do that? Because that's not how it works." How in the hell am I saying my opinion is right and the rest of you are wrong? That it isn't the point of the argument Events such as Jack getting consumed by the Krakken, Randall being banished by Mike and Sulley in Monstropolis prior to Vanitas bringing him back, Scrooge meeting Little Chef by opening the bistro in Twilight Town (remember he said he met him "a while ago") don't happen overnight or an instant. It could've been several weeks (not a week) or months that have passed between KH2 and KH3, but as of now, we don't know how long it has been between KH2 and KH3 as Nomura and Square haven't confirmed anything as of now, but I don't think it has been several days or a week if you ask me. Finally just because time moves at different paces among the worlds, doesn't mean that certain characters, specifically some of the Disney characters like for instance Ariel, or the Frozen characters like Anna and Elsa were in their current ages during the events of BBS or the first game or even Kingdom Hearts II because more than likely they have aged just like Sora, Riku and Kairi did.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.21.189 (talk • contribs)

Nomura already clearly said that time on different worlds flows at different rates.

The bistro was not there in KH2. Jack wasn't eaten in KH2. KH3 occurs almost immediately after KH2 closes -- there is not time for these events to have happened other than during the opening scenes of KH3/AFP.

"don't happen overnight or an instant." -- it does, however, happen post-KH2. And that means it happened during the early stages of KH3, because KH3 is directly after KH2.

"It could've been several weeks (not a week) or months that have passed between KH2 and KH3," -- it could not have. We have that time accounted for. The deluxe edition artbook even provides a timeline. KH2 closes when they receive the letter, post Re:coded, they travel to Yen Sid's tower for the test (which outside the realm of sleep occurs over the course of basically a day, as the two boys are sent back in time for it to start), and then AFP/KH3 begins. Anything for any of the characters who show up in both KH2 and KH3 either happened during KH2 or KH3 -- there isn't a notable "between". The Mark of Mastery, for the outside world, covers less time than the period from Sora setting out for Olympus and arriving on each world.

Not sure why you're bringing up Monstropolis or Arendelle, as those don't appear in KH2. I suppose you could argue that Vanitas appearing at TWTNW in KH3D means he couldn't start working in Monstropolis until he had moved forward in time again, thus putting it during KH3, but I wasn't making that claim."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:34, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

"it does, however, happen post-KH2. And that means it happened during the early stages of KH3, because KH3 is directly after KH2. -Okay it hasn't been a year as recently a Union Cross quiz said that Sora was still 15 years old as of Kingdom Hearts III, but honestly between KH2 to KH3 it feels more like 1-2 days but less than 3-7 days since after the events of Kingdom Hearts II.--172.58.102.235 17:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

"It could not have. We have that time accounted for. The deluxe edition artbook even provides a timeline. KH2 closes when they receive the letter, post Re:coded, they travel to Yen Sid's tower for the test (which outside the realm of sleep occurs over the course of basically a day, as the two boys are sent back in time for it to start), and then AFP/KH3 begins. Anything for any of the characters who show up in both KH2 and KH3 either happened during KH2 or KH3 -- there isn't a notable "between". The Mark of Mastery, for the outside world, covers less time than the period from Sora setting out for Olympus and arriving on each world." - Okay then your right, it hasn't been a year as recently a Union Cross quiz said that Sora was still 15 (since KH2) as of Dream Drop Distance and Kingdom Hearts III, but honestly it feels more than just a day, more than likely 1-2 days if you ask me after Kingdom Hearts II.

"Not sure why you're bringing up Monstropolis or Arendelle, as those don't appear in KH2." - I disagree with your comment even if some of the films those worlds were based on (aside from Toy Story and Monster's Inc.) didn't existed when KH2 came out, I pretty sure that the KH3 Disney worlds like Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, among others more than likely still existed as worlds prior to their actual story events in KH3. The same can be said for Tron in KH2 who mentioned about Space Paranoids being a copy of the original version from ENCOM, which turns out to be the Tron: Legacy world (which mind you the film didn't existed when KH2 came out, but was added in DDD to connect what tron said in KH2). Also while it's true "time flows differently" in worlds (more specifically the Disney worlds than the Original worlds like Twilight Town, Radiant Garden, and Destiny Islands), it doesn't mean that everyone ages differently between the different worlds. I mean think about it the FF characters that resided in Radiant Garden aged a year between KH and KH2 (Yuffie was 16 in KH and 17 during KH2. She more than likely was 6 years old during the events of BBS), secondly for Atlantica, Ariel was 16 years old during the events of Kingdom Hearts and she was presumably 17 years old during Kingdom Hearts III (at least that's what I saw from the original KH2 website.--172.58.102.235 17:02, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. You're making a lot of claims about ages that aren't supported by the games, and the reason it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle is because it provides no evidence whatsoever."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

"Your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever." - In what way does it not make sense?

"You're making a lot of claims about ages that aren't supported by the games, and the reason it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle is because it provides no evidence whatsoever." All I'm saying is that while yes "Time flows differently" in the worlds (specifically the Disney worlds) in doesn't necesarily mean it ALSO applies to the original worlds like Radiant Garden or Twilight Town flowing differently than Destiny Islands. Secondly, it makes NO sense on what you said on the Disney worlds (Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, San Fransokyo) didn't existing at all prior to KH3. True the films didn't existed when Kingdom Hearts II came out but as its has been 1-2 days after KH2 they still existed as worlds otherwise during the pre-KH3 events. Same can be said on the Disney worlds in DDD (particularly the Grid from "Tron: Legacy") as they are dream representation of the worlds that were destroyed by the Heartless prior to the events of the first game. Continue arguing till the cows come home but that's enough already, with your arguments and whatever your beliefs are.--73.77.161.206 16:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

"In what way does it not make sense?" -- in the exact way I already stated. Please learn how to read, or stop spamming my talk page. One or the other.

"All I'm saying is that while yes" -- No, you made specific claims about Yuffie and Ariel's ages which have absolutely no support in the canon. It's completely nonsensical puffery, because you're basically saying "well, if I imagine that I'm right, that means I'm right!" You're pulling an assumption out of your ass and pretending like it should mean something to anyone but you.

I already explained why it doesn't make sense to bring up Monstropolis or Arendelle. They do not support your argument at all, because they are completely irrelevant to the question at hand. The only examples you've brought up that were even vaguely relevant to the topic (of identifying when certain events could be dated, given the existing canon) were your claims about Jack getting consumed by the Kraken, or Randall being brought back by Vanitas "not making sense to have happened overnight" -- which, while at least being on topic, are completely false. Jack has to have been eaten overnight, because he was still alive at the end of KH2. For Randall, the events of Monstropolis imply that Randall just got back that night.

"Secondly, it makes NO sense on what you said on the Disney worlds (Monstropolis, Arendelle, Kingdom of Corona, San Fransokyo) didn't existing at all prior to KH3." -- I never said anything even slightly similar to this. Your responses paint you as paying little to no attention to the discussion, while simultaneously being very certain you want to "win" it. It's a complete waste of time bordering on trolling or vandalism.

Bringing up Arendelle makes no sense because no one was even disputing that Anna and Elsa's childhood happened years before KH3. The fact that Arendelle has no other mentions in the series also means that it absolutely cannot be used to date anything.

"Continue arguing till the cows come home" is disingenuous, contemptuous bullshit. If you're not interested in having a good faith discussion, then why not just stop spewing on my talk page just to get the "last word"? I'm not interested in continuing this discussion, since you've shown absolutely no proof that you even understand the claim you're attempting to argue with. Either start acting in good faith, or just go away."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hollow Bastion/Castle Oblivion

I'm not sure I quite follow. Are you suggesting that there should be a separate article for the memory-version of Hollow Bastion? In that case doesn't that go for all the worlds that appear within Castle Oblivion as well as all the worlds that appear within the Datascape? - JTD95 (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

KH3 Battle Sprites

So, since I obviously don't get it, what IS the proper name and format I need for the KH3 battle sprites I have uploaded? I thought I was following the media policy well, specifically, I also followed how Aqua's 0.2 sprites were on their page, because I ripped them the same way.--BuddyFaith (talk) 20:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Ultimania Renders

A lot have been released online, albeit as low-quality scans. Would you say we can still use these in our articles? I'm concerned about the ones which would serve as a particular article's "main image." I can upload as many renders as I can when I get home from work tonight, but I would like to know how you feel about this: Lady Junky uploaded the Dark Riku official render, but her attempt to remove the background leaves much to be desired (mainly because the color of Riku's hair matches the scan background). Would you say we should remove the backgrounds (may take some time), or would the backgrounds included be okay for now? Obviously, we would use {{betterpic}}... - Eternal Nothingness XIII 16:00, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

I would think we're definitely going to get better pics once shard gets his copy, so I don't mind either way."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:01, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Sora Heartless

Sora's Heartless: Shadow/Neo Darkside/AntiSora forms are covered on the list, but his state after recovering his physical form is not. --Vanitas (talk) 16:49, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Those forms are treated as separate physical entities, even though they stem from the same source, by the ultimania."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah gotcha. Would the physical form be considered separate since it's technically listed as "Sora" in the journal? --Vanitas (talk) 17:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Riku/Ansem

Is it ever said that Riku's heart was expelled? I though him showing up in 0.2 was him reforming immediately after Ansem's defeat. --Vanitas (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah I found it, in KHFM they show Riku after having his heart expelled from Ansem's body. --Vanitas (talk) 21:51, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts VR Experience

I just created a page for the VR Experience (since we didn't have one), but if I'm being honest....I have no idea what the hell I'm doing lol. >_< I can't get the tiny little icon to show up, nor can I find the main page portal template. If you can help me out with this, it'd be swell. :( --Samoa Joe (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

The Game template is basically a display, while the Gameicon template actually houses the images. The portal is at Main_Page/Game_Portals. To track down where components of a page are, you want to look at Templates used on this page toward the bottom of a page while editing it."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. :D As if it wasn't obvious enough lol, I only know the bare minimum when it comes to editing stuff! --Samoa Joe (talk) 19:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Retiring

I'm working with good faith here, but you're sapping my motivation to do anything on the site when you are constantly editing or reverting any contributions I make, often with minimal explanation. Statements like "Not relevant, removing spec" don't really leave me with any understanding of what is acceptable and what is not. I know I've not been here long, but in the face of my contributions consistently not being up to par, I'm choosing to quit the site. - Joveus (talk) 20:23, 20 April 2019 (UTC)