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{{BebopKate|time=21:13, April 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm all for getting rid of giant "See Also" sections.  Either idea is just fine with me; go for it!}}
{{BebopKate|time=21:13, April 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm all for getting rid of giant "See Also" sections.  Either idea is just fine with me; go for it!}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=21:17, April 6, 2010 (UTC)|happy=Okay, cool. I'll start work on a navigational template, and we'll see how it looks. But there's one thing that concerns me; what exactly do we call this family of Heartless?}}
I've made an example of the template here:
{| class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" width="100%" style="clear:both font-size:75%; background:indigo; border: 2px solid #000000; text-align:center; -moz-border-radius: 10px;"
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! align="center" style="background:indigo; -moz-border-radius: 7px;" width="100%" |<div style="margin-left:75px;"><span style="color:white"><font color=white>''Magic Heartless''</font></span></div>
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! align="center" style="background:white; -moz-border-radius: 7px;" width="100%" |<font color=indigo><font size=1>Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts (game)|<font color=indigo><font size=1>Kingdom Hearts</font>]]''</font></font>
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|<small> [[Black Ballade|<font color=black>Black Ballade</font>]] - [[Blue Rhapsody|<font color=blue>Blue Rhapsody</font>]] - [[Green Requiem|<font color=springgreen>Green Requiem</font>]] - [[Red Nocturne|<font color=red>Red Nocturne</font>]] - [[Yellow Opera|<font color=yellow>Yellow Opera</font>]]</small>
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! align="center" style="background:white; -moz-border-radius: 7px;" width="100%" |<font color=indigo><font size=1>Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II|<font color=indigo><font size=1>Kingdom Hearts II</font>]]''</font></font>
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|<small> [[Crimson Jazz|<font color=orange>Crimson Jazz</font>]] - [[Emerald Blues|<font color=palegreen>Emerald Blues</font>]] - [[Silver Rock|<font color=white>Silver Rock</font>]] - [[Spring Metal|<font color=lavender>Spring Metal</font>]]</small>
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! align="center" style="background:white; -moz-border-radius: 7px;" width="100%" |<font color=indigo><font size=1>Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days|<font color=indigo><font size=1>Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days</font>]]''</font></font>
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|<small> [[Emerald Serenade|<font color=limegreen>Emerald Serenade</font>]] - [[Grey Caprice|<font color=gray>Grey Caprice</font>]] - [[Pink Concerto|<font color=hotpink>Pink Concerto</font>]] - [[Sapphire Elegy|<font color=steelblue>Sapphire Elegy</font>]] - [[Scarlet Tango|<font color=orangered>Scarlet Tango</font>]] - [[Striped Aria|<font color=magenta>Striped Aria</font>]] - [[Turquoise March|<font color=deepskyblue>Turquoise March</font>]]</small>
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Not too sure if we're going to go with "Magic Heartless", but how does it look? {{User:Dan da Man36/Sig}} 21:58, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
{{Xion4ever|time=23:30, April 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Glad to see the bloody "see also" sections gone. The template sounds good to me; nice job, Dan.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I am absolutely against this. We already had a category for this that ended up having people throw in any Heartless that could use magic, and the name is uncanon. These Heartless are also not the only ones to have multiple variations - in fact, most Heartless have at least one variation, with others going up to six or so. We also have long see also sections for item articles; for example, [[Fire Ring]]. The directory templates end up taking just as much room, and are more difficult to correct or add to if there are problems.
Furthermore, when we have multiple directory templates on a page, it looks even messier. Look at [[Kingdom Key]].
If the length of the section is an issue, then a much simpler solution would be to simply split it into multiple columns.
On an aesthetic note, the directory as designed above is incredibly difficult to read.}}

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Forums: Index > The Realm of Sleep > "See also" sections on the Red Nocturne etc. pages


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Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 18:35, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png I've noticed that the "See also" sections on the following pages have gotten completely out of hand:

I'm wondering whether it would be a good idea to create a navigational template for this family of Heartless, perhaps similar to this one.

Thoughts[edit]

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Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 18:35, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png Please leave any thoughts / opinions / suggestions you may have in this section.

i think so.ZACH 18:36, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

I think that's a really good idea. There's so many of them, it'd really help. Or at least remodel the Heartless template to have a sub-heading for this family.
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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png I'm liking NitrousX's idea a bit more, since it'll save more space and we won't need to make a whole new template.

Smart idea. I can help if needed. User:ZexionTheGamer/Signature


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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:13, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
I'm all for getting rid of giant "See Also" sections. Either idea is just fine with me; go for it!
SoraMangaHappy.png
Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 21:17, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png Okay, cool. I'll start work on a navigational template, and we'll see how it looks. But there's one thing that concerns me; what exactly do we call this family of Heartless?

I've made an example of the template here:

Magic Heartless
Introduced in Kingdom Hearts
Black Ballade - Blue Rhapsody - Green Requiem - Red Nocturne - Yellow Opera
Introduced in Kingdom Hearts II
Crimson Jazz - Emerald Blues - Silver Rock - Spring Metal
Introduced in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Emerald Serenade - Grey Caprice - Pink Concerto - Sapphire Elegy - Scarlet Tango - Striped Aria - Turquoise March

Not too sure if we're going to go with "Magic Heartless", but how does it look? Pawprintorange.png Dan - Don't Blink! Pawprintblue2.png 21:58, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


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OPXion4EverIcon.png Glad to see the bloody "see also" sections gone. The template sounds good to me; nice job, Dan.
Xion4ever Who am I? — 23:30, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
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KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT."
TALK -
I am absolutely against this. We already had a category for this that ended up having people throw in any Heartless that could use magic, and the name is uncanon. These Heartless are also not the only ones to have multiple variations - in fact, most Heartless have at least one variation, with others going up to six or so. We also have long see also sections for item articles; for example, Fire Ring. The directory templates end up taking just as much room, and are more difficult to correct or add to if there are problems.

Furthermore, when we have multiple directory templates on a page, it looks even messier. Look at Kingdom Key.

If the length of the section is an issue, then a much simpler solution would be to simply split it into multiple columns.

On an aesthetic note, the directory as designed above is incredibly difficult to read.