Talk:Void Gear

The Keychain

the lengths are made of little chains that connect to golden spurs. The charm is what appears to be two halves of a cog in the shape of an 'S'.

Image?

Is it all right if I upload an image of this keyblade?

Yes, just as long as it isn't fan made and it's a good, clear image.--NinjaSheik 03:37, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to upload this one. Is it okay?--LegoAlchemist 23:29, December 12, 2009 (UTC) But of course.

So was that picture no good after all? Or did you take it down for different reasons?--LegoAlchemist 01:20, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the problem with it, it's no different than what we're currently using for Terra, Aqua and Ven's Keyblade HarpieSiren 01:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

The chain links almost look like skulls if stared at the right way. That would make sense due to the 'vanitas' style of art.Oh,how the sea calls 23:14, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Magic

Hey, on the page, it says that this Keyblade has great strength in blizzard and thunder attacks. Do we actually know that yet, or is that based off the secret ending? Lord Knight Xiron 02:42, December 27, 2009 (UTC)Lord knight xiron

I'm assuming its from the secret ending, since the secret ending is the only video we have of Vanitas actually fighting.--Xion4ever 02:47, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Vanitas's vs. Vanitas'

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 01:03, January 5, 2010 (UTC) Vanitas' sounds better. Both are proper, DTN, why the change?

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 01:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC) Well, changing the title again wouldn't make sense. The whole s' doesn't float DTN's boat, as his one request has forced us to change this several times across the Wiki, and even the MoS. I suppose his reason is due to the fact that s' is more commonly used when more than one thing does the possessing...

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? DTN is convinced that the "s'" is flat-out incorrect, but it's not a big deal. KrytenKoro summed it up with "not wrong, but not how we do it here". "s's" is just the way it was decided the wiki would use.

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 01:12, January 5, 2010 (UTC) Zoks, just checking. Wish I was there for that discussion >>

The Blue eye

Does the Blue eye have a meaning? It seems that it's appeared on every keyblade affiliated with a user of darkness (Terra, Vanitas, and Riku) Vaddie 04:43, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I have an theory that the eye only appear on keyblades from dark as MX,Vanitas, Riku, Terra as Xehnort says in his report there are three types of keyblade the one from the light the ones from the darkness and the one from a person's heart--Xabryn 23:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

In Theory, we can consider the Keyblade of People's Hearts a Keyblade of Darkness also, since it manipilates Darkness instead of all elements of the Heart. Maybe that future Kingdom Hearts will specify these Keyblades as "Dark Keyblades" or something similar, being whom use the Darkness can be considered "Denezins of Darkness" or "DODs" for short, a possible trait of the "Dark Keyblades" are to protect its wielder from the negative effects of Darkness maybe as well as give its wielder better control of the lesser "DODs" (Unversed, Heartless, Nobodies, etc). - --BoRadiant 14:27, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

However, we cannot say that the Blue Eye appears only on "Dark Keyblades" there is a chance that they will appear on Keyblades of Light or the element of "Dawn" (like Way to the Dawn), some "Dark Keyblades" like Oblivion (though it isn't stated that it is a full Dark Keyblade) or the Kingdom Key D don't have the eye. Therefore, we can assume the eye is the design of that specified Keyblade(s) alone and not specialised to a "Dark Keyblade". - --BoRadiant 14:30, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Merge

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} I think that the Vanitas's Sentiment's Keyblade should be merged with this page it is the same keyblade isn't it, i mean it has the same attack combo don't it it is only stronger and with other coloration

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. ...There's an article on Vanitas Sentiment's Keyblade...? What's the point of that? MERGE IT.

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. I'm just going to go ahead and do it.

Auror Andrachome Aww, what do you know, you big palooka.. I guess it should be merged.

Vanitas's Sentiment's Keyblade obtainable in NA!!

WingBlade - Whatever it takes. Anything to save Terra and Aqua. TALK - {{{time}}} I saw this interview in KH13. Q: And the other major changes? A: Mega Flare proved too strong and violent, so we've weakened that ability. In addition, there were complaints about the reward for defeating Vanitas' Sentiment, so you will now receive his Keyblade as a prize. Such a modification is a fun novelty that fits well in KH tradition. I can't wait!!!

The article pretty blatantly says that you get Vanitas's Keyblade, not the Sentiment's.Glorious CHAOS! 17:06, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

HELL YEAH. Now THAT sounds great. I was crossing my fingers for Mickey's Keyblade, but this is better! The articles will need to be seperate now. And maybe we can learn the Keyblade's real name!! --LegoAlchemist 18:48, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

What will probably happen is that we'll get english confirmation on how sentiment's/silhouettes work, and what we're getting is the Sentiment itself, in its original Keyblade form. Which would also be awesome.Glorious CHAOS! 20:16, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sorry, kryten,but i think u are thinking way too deep in this. It doesn't say you'll get hs orginal's keyblade or anything like that, you'll get his keyblade ("his" being used after discussing the sentiment with vanitas himself not being mentioned whatsoever) so most likely the black and white version of the keyblade is a reward for beating the sentiment, so YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY(and if we're all wrong you get the satisfaction of pwning the hell out of us)!

Again, the Japanese text says Vanitas's Keyblade, not the Sentiment's Keyblade. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 23:55, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh

UnknownEnigma - In the meantime, would you be interested in meeting another who is considered a hero? TALK - Your existence is worth nothing! I just so happened to stumble upon this information, and I was wondering if someone could provide me a link to KH13's website where this interview took place.

http://www.ff-reunion.net/kh/2010/06/25/khbbs_dengeki_nomura_interview

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA quick question, in the event that it IS the sentiment's version, would that require a page split?

KrytenKoro - Click TALK - It would, but it would require Nomura to be a fairly bad liar.

Or that we really suck at translating.204.211.185.107 15:06, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

HikariKH - Tobi is a good boy! TALK - {{{time}}} Unless my translator is wrong, the interview says VANITA'S Keyblade. When translated to portuguese, it becomes something like this: 'a recompensa quando derrotou sentimento de vanitas, tem sido capaz de obter a keyblade de vanitas'. If translated back to english, it says 'the reward when defeating Vanita's Sentiment, is to be able to obtain Vanita's Keyblade'.

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA so why is this fact not allowed in the article?

1. Because half of the edits so far have been the false "Vanitas's Sentiment's Keyblade"
2. Because the other half have been a newsflash-type "It has recently been confirmed" style of thing, that is completely pathetic for a wiki article like this.
3. Because we don't have any stats or actual information to put up besides a newsbyte. We have no idea who can weild it, whether its design will differ between users, nothing.Glorious CHAOS! 23:37, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Even if we get the sentiments keyblade, I don't see why we would need a page split, after all, what difference (other than color) is there between the two? I mean, the one is based on the other, Roxas' oathkeeper is a different shade of silver than Sora's but that's in the trivia section, not another article for both.65.184.80.86 11:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hooray, it's monochrome. I win!

Dammit, Nomura!Glorious CHAOS! 05:11, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs! TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 1:14am lol but nomura did say he would use "his" keyblade :P

WingBlade - Whatever it takes. Anything to save Terra and Aqua. TALK - {{{time}}} I knew it! But I really have to say that I was looking forward to the colored version instead of the monochrome one! But we can't argue with Nomura! Monochrome it is!

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @Roxnick, actually, i'll give kryten this, when properly translated nomura does say that you specifically get Vanitas' keyblade, making no mention of the Spirit. but i still win :)(sorry i hardly ever win so im really taking it in right now)

Protect

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. A wild SPAMMER appeared! Go, ADMIN! ADMIN, use PROTECT! ...please. The only contributions to this page have been "Vanitas's Keyblade is obtainable", and they've all been reverted for obvious reasons. I think the time has come.

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Again... the page is getting nothing but undo revisions of this. Can we protect it?

Page Changes

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 16:05, August 1, 2010 (UTC) Would a staffer either change the protection level of the page or remove the Unreleased template, replacing it with the Translation one?

Keyblade's name

In the English version, the Keyblade is supposed to be gained from defeating Vanitas Sentiment, then we may know what name the Keyblade was bestowed. - --BoRadiant 14:21, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

We will just have to wait till the release. Which will be 2 weeks from now.Edgeshadow

Void Gear, hmmm...

WingBlade - Exactly what I said idiot. The Terra you know will be gone forever. TALK - {{{time}}} I'm just asking, when and where did you guys got this name? Is it official? Again, I'm just asking.

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} Yes it was confirmed on the Guide see this for more information

Edgeshadow - You have to be strong. TALK - Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of times. 07:28, September 2,2010 Here in this guide

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Question about unlocking this Keyblade

Do you need to beat Vanitas Lingering Spirit with all of the characters to get it for each, or will one do. (i have the same question with the Ultima Weapon and No Name--SamusTheHedgehog 01:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Just one, for each. Each character gets it, and you only have to beat the people once in each save file.Glorious CHAOS! 03:24, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Vanitas's Keyblade

we have no true confirmation that "void gear" is the name of vanitas's keyblade. yes we know the name is void gear for vanitas lingering spirit, but not for vanitas himself. i suggest we leave the two separate until someone hacks vanitas's keyblade and finds out what his keyblade's true name is.75.164.124.42 11:55, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

That's true to an extent, but when talking about it, Nomura just called this "Vanitas's Keyblade", indicating that they are the same thing.Glorious CHAOS! 13:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Not exactly, nomura said you get "his keyblade" IIRC75.164.124.42 22:19, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

No, he didn't. He said "Vanitas's Keyblade". Can you read Japanese?Glorious CHAOS! 01:25, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe a link to the interview would be best to settle this argument, though i saw a discussion about it in KHi once but they themselves weren't able to cnfirm it when it wasn't released yet.Aqua00000 22:35, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

....we already covered this above this discussion. KHinsider doesn't have rigorous translations. Nomura explicitly says "Vanitas's Keyblade". Anybody who can read Japanese could spot the line in a second.23:50, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Again, a link would be best. i simply can't take yours and the other IP's word for it.Aqua00000 23:58, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Scroll up. The link is in a section above this one ("Vanitas's Sentiment's Keyblade obtainable in NA!").LapisLazuliScarab00:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I guess this is all from people who haven't beaten VR. He drops a Keyblade called Void Gear. I have it equip to Ven.--Evnyofdeath 00:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

You don't need to "guess" if you read the discussion. It's a debate over whether Vanitas' Keyblade (the red and black one) shares this name or not.LapisLazuliScarab00:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

this really didn't confirm if this is vanitas's keyblade, just vanitas sentiment.....Aqua00000 08:17, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Except Nomura never calls it "Vanitas's Sentiment/Remnant/Lingering Spirit's Keyblade". He specifically calls it "Vanitas's Keyblade". This is just the Remnant's version.LapisLazuliScarab08:35, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

again i would like to ask for a source and a quote. it's not so easy trusting information when theres no source. i can't take your word for it unless you bring something reliableAqua00000 10:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC) That and "Void" gear fits thematically with Vanitas' name.66.56.199.131 12:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Dude, this is annoying ME. What, do you think they made this up? If multiple people have translated the line as "Vanitas's Keyblade," then it's obvious that Nomura thought that considering the Remnant's weapon a 2nd Keyblade would have been splitting hairs. If you doubt the validity of the translation, you can translate it yourself online.75.195.159.118 11:37, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

but how do i know they're saying that just to end the conversation. don't you think itt should've been easier to end if they brought the quote with them rather than just them saying it? it's too difficult to trust information like that.Aqua00000 12:01, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Here's what you do:

1. READ THE BLOODY DISCUSSION JUST UP THE PAGE WE KEEP POINTING YOU AT.
2. LEARN JAPANESE YOUR OWN DAMN SELF BEFORE TELLING US WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO TRANSLATE SIMPLE WORDS.

Glorious CHAOS! 12:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

i only see two in english>Aqua00000 14:33, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

yeah you guys aren't being too specific. you guys barely mention about the sections.144.90.92.62 14:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

LapisScarab gave the bloody name of the section. We've reminded you guys that this has already been covered four separate times. EVEN THEN, you should have read the talk page before starting this thread to see if your complaint was already covered. We've done every blasted thing short of coming to your house, loading the webpage on your PC, and shoving your face into it.

But since I doubt even that would work, here's the content again:

"In addition, because there were many voices of dissatisfaction at the reward for defeating Vanitas's Sentiment, Vanitas's Keyblade can now be obtained." (ほかには、ヴァニタスの思念を倒したときのごほうびが不満という声が多かったので、ヴァニタスのキーブレードを入手できるようになっていますね。)

Seriously, what the fricking hell.Glorious CHAOS! 15:15, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Old discussion but still: The Memorial Ultimania makes a difference between Vanitas's Keyblade (ヴァニタスのキーブレード) and Void Gear (ヴォイドギア). --ShardofTruth 13:11, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, does it use the "'s Keyblade" construction for any of the Keyblades we have explicitly confirmed names for, like Sora's or Kairi's?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

It actually does, it's "Master Eraqus' Keyblade (Master Keeper)" and "Kairi's Keyblade (Destiny Place)", the rest seems to be named accordingly. Most of the scans can be found here, while the complete Keyblade section (where every Keyblade from the games is displayed) is not included, it seems I have to scan them myself. --ShardofTruth 15:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

So that would make it seem as if Keychain names and "'s Keyblade" are not exclusive."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

design

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA think we should rework the design section to describe the version that that the player wields first, and then describe vanitas', or should we just keep it as is?

i think that's a good idea. keep it more gameplay-wise.Aqua00000 12:02, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000. You're all morons. — 15:22, September 24, 2010 (UTC) The description for the remnant's version is pretty brief, and the description of the one the real Vanitas uses pretty much covers it. I don't necessarily think we need to change it, but if everyone else wants to it's fine by me.

Japanese name.

Since this page cannot be edited; in Final Mix the name of the blade is called "ヴォイドギア" which mostly translates into "Void Gear".

1stkirbyever 07:14, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Could you give us a screenshot, for the sake of completeness? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 07:17, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, here it is. --1stkirbyever 08:19, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Too big

The image extends the box for it. We should upload a smaller version. RikutheBloody 21:31, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Just add "size=200px" to the infobox. TheSilentHero 21:36, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Re:coded

I'm confused. Vanitas's Void Gear was in Re:coded? Was it removed content of some sort? --Ignis (talk) 00:06, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

It was an Avatar Part, like Jungle King. Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 02:00, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Ah, gotcha.  :) Thanks. --Ignis (talk) 02:16, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

No problem. If you have any further questions, please, just come to me. Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 02:26, 5 September 2016 (UTC)