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== <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Header? </span></span></span> ==
<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{LA|Varmor=Well, I don't know where else to post this besides the Monaco.css page itself.... so... where's the header on the sight? Is it just me, or is there a blank white strip at the top of the page where checkered Kingdom Hearts symbols should be?}}
{{Randomnessity|hooded=Hey you're right! What the heck is wrong with it?}} </span></span></span>
:<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Nothing. You should probably reload your browser.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC) </span></span></span>
<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{GS|time=20:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=The link was broken, so as I normally do, I replaced the link with a new version of the image.  For some reason it's still blank for me though.  I don't know what's going wrong, it doesn't make sense.}}
{{LA|Vtext=Yeah, same with me. Sorry, Kryten. Nothing.}} </span></span></span>
==<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Userboxes</span></span></span>==
<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{One-Winged Angel|time=20:56 January 12, 2010|text=What's with the hipocricy!? I've been told it's okay to create unofficial Userboxes yet when I do they're deleted. I'd like to ascertain as to why I'm being "bullied".}}
{{KrytenKoro|How is it hypocrisy if no-one else is making off-topic userboxes?}}
{{One-Winged Angel|time=22:02 January 12, 2010|text=It's hypocrisy because people say they're allowed but delete them when their made like their not allowed.}} </span></span></span>
{{BebopKate|time=03:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=Let me explain again, One-Winged Angel.  You are allowed to make non-''Kingdom Hearts'' userboxes as long as the coding is on ''your userpage'' and the pictures are stored off-wiki.  Again, I encourage you to look at the coding on my userpage.  You'll notice the bottom nine userboxes are not templates like the wiki userboxes; all of the boxes' information is on my userpage only, and all of the images are linked from PhotoBucket.
As I said before, I would be more than happy to assist you if you would like similar userboxes on your page.}}
== <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Keyblade Graveyard </span></span></span> ==
<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{Randomnessity|text=Shouldn't Keyblade Graveyard be added to the sidebar in the worlds section now that it has been confirmed?}}</span>
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=='''<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9">Just a Question</span></span>'''==
<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9">The rock titan and the Ice titan in kingdom hearts, they have names, revealled in the Hercules animated series or somethin like that. The Ice one is Hydros, The rock one is Lythos, the lava one is Pyros and the wind one is Stratos, so why note use these names in the articles instead of the Titan Titles. Another point would be if there was ever an explaination as to why Pyros and Stratos are absent in the Kingdom Hearts series, I mean with 6 games and a remake for three of them making 9, you think they'd be able to squeeze in these two characters, it just doesn't seem right without them, any other thoughts?</span></span>
<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9">([[User:Leviathan657|Leviathan657]] 03:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC))</span></span>
Hi, Leviathan.  The ''Kingdom Hearts'' Wiki deals with information only in the context of the ''Kingdom Hearts'' video games.  We do not cover information from other areas, such as Disney films or TV series, or the ''Final Fantasy'' games, as there are other, more suitable wikis and sites that cover that info.  The Ice Titan is never actually called Hydros in the game; we feel it would be confusing if someone looking for information on "Ice Titan" came across "Hydros" instead since it's never referred to in-game by that name.
We don't know why the other Titans aren't around, but since there are almost assuredly more ''Kingdom Hearts'' games on the way, there's a still chance they'll appear. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}}
03:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
== Coliseum infoboxes ==
I need someone to get me a high quality screenshot of the Cup scoreboards - those things that are purple with yellow text. I'm going to try and get the Coliseum infoboxes finished, and then we can finish all enemy infoboxes.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
== Sidebar ==
{{NitrousX|text=Should Xion and Axel be added under "Main Protagonists"? They were in fact one of the three main protagonsists in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.}}
{{Xabryn|time=16:15, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=What about Master Xehanort and Vanitas? They should be with the "Main Antagonist", right?}}
{{Randomnessity|isa=And like I mentioned before, the Keyblade Graveyard. Its name is confirmed.}}
== Featured user list ==
{{Randomnessity|isa=I just wanted to point out that I have more edits than [[User:Super Sword-chucks|SSC]]. Shouldn't I replace him on the list?}}
{{Xion4ever|time=02:27, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=It takes the Community List about a day to refresh itself. Give it a day or two and the list will update.}}
{{Randomnessity|isa=That's what I figured. I was just making sure that was it.}}
== Nintendo Power ==
{{NitrousX|text=Should the awards that KH Days just won (The Nintendo Power Awards) be in the "Roxas's Diary" section?? I think they should.}}
{{Falcon|text=Nitrous, the editor on Roxas's Diary (DoorToNothing) left to wiki as so not to get spoiled on BbS. I left a message on DTN's talk page but I don't think he's gonna see it very soon...=p Who else can change Roxas's Diary?}}
{{Xabryn|text=Any registered user can edit the page and i agree with you Nitrous it should be on the page}}
{{Xion4ever|time=00:42, February 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Wrong, Xabryn. Only staff members can edit Roxas' Diary. But Nitrous, why not ask on a forum?}}
{{Xabryn|text=i'm not sure about it but i think that it is possible if you go on "edit this page" there is a part of NEWS SECTION i'm pretty sure it is the roxas's diary}}
{{DTN|time=06:29, February 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=What Xion4ever is trying to saying is that only [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Staff|staff members]] ''should'' edit Roxas's Diary. Yes, you can technically edit it, but you are not supposed to add entires to it, or revise any of the posts to the extent of any more than fixing a typo.
Until I can see official confirmation that ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' won any awards from Nintendo Power's readers or Nintendo Power, I am not going to add this to Roxas's Diary. There is currently no official confirmation that the game won any awards from Nintendo Power, and a user's (or users') word is not at all confirmation. If any screenshots of the magazine can prove this, or if the results have posted on any site on the web, please leave me the link so that I may make this addition to Roxas's Diary.}}
{{Falcon|text=I just uploaded the '''proof''' that Days won every award!! This should be the page: File:Nintendo Power Award Results 2009.jpg(I tried to put the link, but it came out '''HUGE'''. Can anyone tell me how to put the link in without it coming out huge?)}}
{{Xion4ever|time=22:13, February 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=@ DTN: TNE? I believe you are mistaken, look at that message again. ^^ However, TNE and I share Aqua as our talk templates. Differences be the images, some colors, quotes, and the skinny types.}}
I guess this is the proof that Falcon is talking about:[[File:Nintendo Power Award Results 2009.jpg|thumb]]--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 16:35, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
{{Falcon|text=Yep, that's it. Thanks for putting it up Xabryn. DTN, will you change Roxas's Diary now?}}
== Days World location names ==
Please use [[User talk:KrytenKoro/Items]] to add to the world articles. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:58, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
== One winged Angel ==
For some reason I believe that there should be an article about the popular theme played when facing Sephiroth. It is recognisable, and one of the most popular pieces of video game music known. But I have this strong feeling that most people disagree.([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 05:43, April 18, 2010 (UTC))
I would have to agree with this. The name technically is based off the track.
EDIT: My mistake, I thought you were talking about the Keyblade. So I'll have to disagree. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 05:46, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
Creating that article would be a waste of time. The only songs we have articles on are the ones who play a strong signifigance in the series, such as [[Simple and Clean]], [[Sanctuary]], and the Atlantica songs.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 15:37, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
==Kingdom hearts==
I can't find an article about Kingdom hearts, not kingdom hearts the game or title, but the actual kingdom hearts. Is there any redirects or anything to help find it?[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 19:30, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
:If you mean the world, then [[Kingdom Hearts (world)|this]] is the article. Otherwise, see the disambiguation page [[Kingdom Hearts (disambiguation)|here]]. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 19:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
oh geez, no wonder i couldn't find it. kingdom hearts isn't a world. its just a stage, kingdom hearts can be used to make a new world.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 19:40, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
== Dimension Link ==
Can You Add Pictures of The D-Link Icons "The Characters Faces and The 2 Symbols" That Show Up When You Use Them and When you Go To The D-Link Menu?
== Cleanup of the Month ==
Alright, the ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' weapon articles have really improved; all that is left is for a few of us to go through and add the rest of the "Gameplay" sections, and for the last of those arrowgun images. Since this means we should be changing it again, I'll open up this Forum for the administrators to discuss what the next "Cleanup of the Month" should be, similar to [[Forum:Featured Articles|how we choose featured articles]]. See you [[Forum:Cleanup of the Month|there]]! --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 20:59, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Whats Kingdom hearts 3 going to be about? Sora already destroyed kingdom hearts i thought
== KH BBS Official Site NA ==
Guess What Guys, The Offical NA Site for BbS Has Been Updated Check it Out. You May Also Wanna Check Out The Gameplay, It Has English Gameplay Of the Characters. Also we Here The English Voices of Terra, Aqua & Ventus.
June 5, 2010 4:35 AM
Kingdom210
==Is it me or are we all facing the same problem ?==
Monaco.css is showing blue, except for the homepage and logo, which are red. We haven't switched to the BBS theme yet, have we ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 12:49, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
This has been happening to me for a while now. I know that DTN and KKD were experiencing the same problem as well... {{Dan da Man36|1}} 12:54, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, I'm seeing blue again. But today is the first day this has happened. I know the same problem has happened over Kingdom Hearts Fanon Wiki - all of us set Monaco to Jade (the green one, to fit the logo), but till now we're still seeing blue.
:Think we should ping Wikia Central and/or the staff ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}}} 12:58, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... This definitely isn't the first time it's happened to me, and I have a screenshot to prove it: [http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/Dan_da_Man36/Picture1.gif] I'm not overly sure what the date was, but I think I printscreened it on the same date that ENX posted [[User talk:KrytenKoro/Archive 6#BBS Remodel?|this]]. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 13:11, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Ah that, yes. But all this while I was actually seeing the red theme..... and I thought that this problem only existed on KHF until today. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
Its happened to me loads of times too. [[User:Organization 13|Organization 13]] 13:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Oh noes... I think this calls for a ping to Wikia Central. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:22, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::While we're on the subject of wiki problems, the wiki is taking ages to load for me, and it occasionally just stops working and displays a blank page, so maybe wikia is up to something? {{Dan da Man36|1}} 13:25, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:As for that, that happens to me once in every three weeks or so... I'm not sure why. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:30, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::That stuff never happens to me. But then again, I use Monobook (I'm so old school >.>), so yeah.  The wiki is actually one of the fastest loading sites for me. {{SC/Sig|13:34, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}}
:You're using Monobook ? So that means only Monaco's giving problems. But that's the skin almost everyone uses. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:47, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::Yep, I use Monobook. It usually Is Monaco. That means we should all switch to Monobook <.< {{SC/Sig|13:50, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}}
:I know, but if we were to switch to Monobook, then what will become of our layouts ? We need to ask Kryten or anyone with access to the CSS page if it can be changed. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:57, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::Methinks we should just make Monobook layouts then, if possible. If not, oh well. You get used to it. {{SC/Sig|14:04, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}}
I've noticed that when the place goes blue it messes up the Heartless templates on the Heartless pages. [[User:Organization 13|Organization 13]] 14:06, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Wait, that's for Monobook or Monaco ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 14:12, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::Monobook never screws up. He meant Monaco. {{SC/Sig|14:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}}
:Yeah, none of the tabs work when the Monaco turns blue, and the game templates appear at the top left, not the top right. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 14:20, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
So now, we make Monobook skins and compel everyone to use Monobook ?? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 15:32, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know, I just want a Monobook theme :P But seriously, we shouldn't force people to do a certain theme. The point of the themes is unique customization; just contact Wikia Central, I'm sure they'll get on it. This happens in the FF Wiki too, so it's definetely <small>Spell fail DX</small> not just this wiki. {{SC/Sig|15:56, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}}
Apparently, from what I hear, the new BBS theme which Xiggie designed should be compatible for Monobook (Bluerfn is using it, I think). But for now... since I'm signing out, can someone ping Wikia Central ? Please ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 16:07, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Sounds great. I don't know how, so not me :/ {{SC/Sig|16:10, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}}
::I'll try, and I'll link them to this page. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 16:43, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, this appears to happen often.  I get it about every 36th page (I was bored so I counted) refreshing usually fixes it for me.  {{The Inexistentsig}}
::Okay, I've sent them an email with screenshots and a link back here. Hopefully, they'll reply soon. =) {{Dan da Man36|1}} 17:00, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:::The same problems have been happening on other wikis I've been on, I wonder if this is wiki-wide...I first used Monobook, but I couldn't access all the wiki trinkets.{{AurorSig}}
:Thanks Dan !
:In the meantime, let's hope they reply...... {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 02:23, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
::I have the relpy!:
::"Hello.
::We are currently working on fixing an intermittent server problem that is causing malformed CSS to be sent to your browser, causing a wiki's custom CSS to be ignored. It is only a temporary problem. Nothing needs to be changed on the wiki. Please be patient while we fix this.
::--
::Regards,
::Chris "Uberfuzzy" Stafford
::Wikia Community Support Team" {{Dan da Man36|1}} 10:36, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
Alright ! I hope it won't be a long wait. ^_^ {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:37, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
== Jiminy Cricket's New English VA ==
Guess What Guys, I Discoverd That Phil Snyder, Known as the Man of a Million Voices, Has Comfirmed To Do The Voice of Jiminy Cricket. Plus, He's Voicing the Character in the english version of Kingdom Hearts: Coded for the first time. Also, Kingdom Hearts: Coded is being Released in NA Under The Remake title, Kingdom Hearts Recoded. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 09:49, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
:Wait, just where did you get that information ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 09:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
From Phil's Official Site, PHILSNYDER.net
:Alright. I'm getting there. If the reference is pretty obvious, I'll put it as a cite note. Do note that if it's not obvious enough, we're taking that bit of information down (for now). And what about the bit on Recoded ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 09:59, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
It's True, Go Check it Out.
:As long as you can provide me a source, I won't doubt its truth. I'm asking you again, where did you get the bit on Recoded ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:02, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
I'm Saying Go to His Site! Again, PHILSnyder.net.
:Okay. I'm there. Internet's lagging, I can't get there. Yet, the Bing search results say it loud and clear. Can anyone please check the URL out for me and put the cite note in, AND DO NOT UNDO KINGDOM210'S EDIT PLEASE ! {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:07, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
:EDIT 10:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC) : Done. Thanks for the ref. I put it in. Anymore sources on Recoded, please let us know. ^_^ {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
== World infobox ==
I've made a new World infobox that combines many of the sub templates we've been using (I.e., the world directory and World Music templates), as well as the various world and logo images, and the IL links. You can see it in use at [[Traverse Town]] and [[Hollow Bastion]].[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:47, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
== Something I noticed... ==
I found interesting the fact that all kingdoms hearts (except coded) feature 2 male protagonists and one female protagonist. I wonder if we could work with that somehow. [[User_talk:BGMaxie|BGMaxie]]
{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= What do you mean by work with that?}}
:CoM? Unless you mean Namine, who is an antagonist in the early game. Or KHII, in which you have a whole mess of male protagonists, and then Kairi doing about zip s***.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:10, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
And the youngest male protagonist (Sora, Roxas, Ventus) is the hero. The oldest (Riku, Axel, Terra) is the anti-hero, by choice or not. The gal (Kairi, Xion, Aqua) is... well... idk. There's a shit pot load of that in anime. [[User:Clarkmaster|CLARKMASTER!]] 01:26, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= Ok well i'm still wondering what you mean by work with that but if you havent noticed that is a somewhat common situation in anime, manga, and video game and a pretty common pattern. I mean even in Final Fantasy. The group there (even if not all together) was Zack, Aerith, and Cloud. Then Zack died Cloud met Aerith, she died then he met Tifa blah blah blah. So its a pretty common  thing. Prime example NARUTO XD.}}
I mean how can we make this info useful in some way. Then again yeah.....you got a poin there :S [[User_talk:BGMaxie|BGMaxie]]
{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= Actually i dont think we can. Its too much of a common pattern to be useful. On the other hand its already seemed to be established that Ven is to Sora Terre is to Riku and Aqua is to Kiari but there's not much else we can use with the whole situation. Like i said its common thing in anime etc. and i noticed that Nomura likes to use the pattern as soon as he introduced the Roxas, Axel, and Xion team. He just had to incorporate a girl in there somewhere. And then when it became a Ventus, Aqua, Terra situation well then i was like "Ok then he likes boy girl boy" I guess its just a generic thing in most anime etc. The only thing that veered off that path that i like is Soul Eater. Another good example if you know what it is. Full Metal Alchemist. Ed, Al, and Winry. In fact Winry's JP VA is the same as Aqua's. . .}}
I know this is old but in FMA the Scar JP VA is Terra.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 21:43, August 13, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman


== Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS ==
== Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS ==


Can Anyone Post the batte music "Working Together" From Birth By Sleep? Not the Kingdom Hearts II Version.
Can Anyone Post the batte music "Working Together" From Birth By Sleep? Not the Kingdom Hearts II Version.
== Trinity Report ==
Can Someone here Post the Entire Trinity Report, Also Post it On YouTube? I Wanna Se All of it. Characters, Unversed, Treasure Chests, Ect. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 13:54, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
== Kingdom Hearts III ==
I got a feeling it will be announced on E3. What do you think?


== No KH3, fansites mistranslated again: ==
== No KH3, fansites mistranslated again: ==
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*'''Tetsuya Nomura''': "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3."
*'''Tetsuya Nomura''': "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3."


== KH BBS Official English Trailer ==
[[Video:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep:  E3 2010 English Trailer - HD|thumb|300px|right]] Hey Guys, The Official English Trailer Of BbS Is Now Online! Check It Out. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 11:34, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
I Heard the Voices in The Trailer, Go Check It Out. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 11:53, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Wow, is that Haley doing Vanita's voice?  It sure doesn't sound like him, if it is.  --[[User:Gypseian|Gypseian]] 03:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Check Out The Official BBS VA Discussion in the Kingdom Hearts Insider Forums. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 19:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
:Why?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:04, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Because It Shows The New Confirmed Actors. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 21:10, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
:I checked it, but the only names it has that we don't, it doesn't have sources for. It's just the same "it totally sounds like him!" nonsense that we've had to protect pages to avoid.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:19, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


== Re:Coded ==
== Kingdom Hearts 3D released ==
 
Could someone update the home page to say that KH3D was released? Thanks=)--[[User:KingdomCube|What the hell&#39;s a signature?]] 15:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
{{One-Winged Angel|time=18:39 June 18, 2010|fur=So when are we going to add it to the sidebar?}}
{{EO|time=01:52, June 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=Same time we add KH3D, Master Xehanort, Vanitas, and Master Eraqus. What do these all have in common with this game? It will be added whenever a staff member is able.}}
 
== Main Page Changes ==
 
{{EO|time=01:54, June 21, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=So I see we've finally switched to our BBS theme! That's brilliant. Now there are still some things left over from out ''Days'' theme that I'd like to nominate we change:
 
*"Roxas's Diary" to "Trinity Report", the journal-type system seen in BBS
*"Mission Board" to "Command Board", and while a stretch, it works.
 
That is all.}}
 
==Quote of the Moment==
 
{{ZexionFan321|time=01:57, June 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I was thinking that the next quote of the moment could be from Roxas in KH:358/2D: No! Xion...Who else will I have ice cream with?}}
 
== Edit Count ==
<s>Shouldn't the edit count be updated with the walktrough?</s>
 
...Forget what I said(or, typed)
[[User:Keyblade0|Keyblade0]] 02:25, July 16, 2010 (UTC)Keyblade0
 
== New KH BBS Trailer ==
 
Hey Everyone, Gamespot Released A New Trailer of Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep! --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 20:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Link please? --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 20:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
Here's the Link:
http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/kingdomheartsbirthbysleep/video/6269498/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-exclusive-trailer
 
Can we put this video on the BBS article?--[[User:Keyblade0|Keyblade0]] 01:17, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Keyblade0
 
Ask a moderator. I think it should.--[[Memorized]]
 
:It would be better to just link it to the Talk:Birth by Sleep page. We're trying to avoid videos as of now, I think. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 02:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Dead Fantasy Response ==
 
Sure we'd love to affiliate ourselves with you guys.  Although our websites small, any help in getting the Dead Fantasy product out would be greatly appreciated....
 
== Somebodies? ==
 
I've seen that on several pages for worlds, under their 'Enemies' sections, there's a category for 'Somebodies'. I have no problem calling the complete halves of Nobodies Somebodies (though I personally prefer calling them 'Others'), wouldn't it be better to refer to them as just 'Humans'? Just a suggestion, seems more accurate, especially since most don't have Nobodies. [[User:Phoenix of the Darkness|Phoenix of the Darkness]] 23:57, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
:Scar's not a human. Nor are the Card Soldiers, Ursula, or 50% of the somebodies in the series.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
::Seems to me that this is just a term somebody made up. I'm for removing this category. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 01:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, it is used more than once in the series (at least once by Axel). It's not a great term but it's the best official one we've got right now. [[Category talk:Somebody|Go here]] for more about this issue.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}01:28, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
::::Hm, okay. I must admit I'm not very familiar with all the side games as I don't have the consoles they're on. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 17:54, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
:::::You should probably do research before declaring something to be made-up, but oh well.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:13, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


==RE: your galleries==
==RE: your galleries==
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So how did you all doe this ? I would be dying to know because I despise the new galleries too. Please message me on my talk page with a response, or let me know when you responded here. Thank you. [[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 01:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
So how did you all doe this ? I would be dying to know because I despise the new galleries too. Please message me on my talk page with a response, or let me know when you responded here. Thank you. [[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 01:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


== Extra worlds? ==
== Facebook symbol. ==


Some of my edits regarding character home worlds were just reverted. I changed the home world of [[Santa Claus]] to Halloween Town (it was Christmas Town) and of [[Hades]] and [[Pain and Panic]] to Olympus Coliseum (it said Underworld). The reason is that Christmas Town and the Underworld are treated as areas of Halloween Town and the Olympus Coliseum, respectively. They are not worlds in themselves and as such should not be listed as home worlds on character pages (unless one would change "home world" to something that would encompass areas within worlds). The reverts were justified by stating that these are "parallel worlds, story wise", but this is original research [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research]. I understand that it looks better aesthetically to list Hades's home world as the Underworld and Santa's as Christmas Town, but they're not worlds.  
{{Organization 13|inquisitive=Shouldn't there also be the Facebook symbol on the main page too because we have a page there too? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=143194599040436&ref=ts.}}


# They do not have their own section in Jiminy's Journal in ''KHII''.
Hello? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 15:02, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
# They do not have their own logo (every world has an introductory scene where its logo is shown).
# They and are not listed as worlds anywhere on this Wiki.
# The menu still says "Olympus Coliseum" and "Halloween Town", respectively.


They may be seperate worlds in the films they originate from, but within the context of ''KH'' they are not (the Clock Tower in Neverland is another good example).
Anyone?{{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 22:01, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


If you want to list Hades's home world as the Underworld, by that logic you might as well list Barbossa's home world as Isla de Muerta and Ursula's home world as Ursula's Grotto.
What about this? Can someone attach it onto the page? (with permission, of course)


[[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 21:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt273/hsiao-yu/icon_facebook.gif    --[[User:AxelLivesOn|<font face="jokerman" color="black" size=4>Axel</font face>]] <font face="Freestyle script" color="orange" size=3>-</font face> <sup>[[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="jokerman" color="orange" size=3>Boo to you too!</font face>]] http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/Icy_Scientist/pumpkin2.gif </sup> 22:08, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


They are considered separate worlds ''story wise''. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}}
Helloooooo? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 16:04, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
:Unless the game states so, that's original research. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 21:56, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


{{Galexgan|time=22:59, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|text= I have to agree with Xerruy. Just because you say it's a ''story wise'' thing doesn't mean anything but that you think it should be listed as something, it is however not fact that these are seperate worlds as all of the facts Xerruy listed above help to qualify a world as a world. All of these extra areas are just part of another world. I do agree that saying Hades is from the Underworld sounds better but there are many more cases where this type of logic does not fit as Xerruy also stated above.}}
Doesn't it say at the top of the page "share this article" with a facebook icon next to it?  --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 16:29, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


#Ursula's Grotto (which isn't a thing, you mean "Ursula's Lair") is part of Atlantica, even in the story.
Beside the twitter and freenode symbol, the share the article is only for the page to be shown on your Facebook profile. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 17:41, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
#Story-wise, the Coliseum is treated as the "in the clouds" area (ex: "These days Phil is busy running the Coliseum and screening contestants for", "Underworld Map, Caverns Map, Coliseum Map". Or, you could read the Olympus Coliseum story in the journal)
#Same thing with Halloween Town. The actual script of the game is ''never'' so stupid as to say that Christmas Town is part of Halloween Town - yes, gameplay wise, they are one planet. However, according to the plot, Halloween Town and Christmas Town are parallel.
#Barbossa doesn't live on Isla de Muerta, and in fact, the first time you see him is at the normal port town. However, no single part of Port Royal is delineated as being the true Port Royal, as far as I know - it is used to apply to the entire planetoid. (ex: "In Port Royal, Luxord used Heartless and the cursed medallions to conduct experiments on the Organization's behalf and collect hearts.")


In regards to your definition of a world - kingdom hearts and dive to the heart are clearly separate worlds, but do not get their own logo or section in the journal. Neither does Castle Oblivion in Days, nor Destiny Islands (I may be wrong, but I don't think that any world gets an introductory cutscene in Days). However, Christmas Town and Underworld ARE listed as sub-worlds on this wiki.
Then I don't know. --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 17:44, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


Finally, your list misses the pretty basic point that I said "story-wise", not "game-mechanic wise", so it's a waste of time in any case.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:29, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
I just mean shouldn't we add the facebook symbol beside the microphone on the main page beacause we do have a facebook page? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 21:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


* Dive to the Heart is a dream, isn't it? Even if that's not true, your analogy is wrong. DttH isn't just not listed as a world, it's not listed at all! Not as a world OR an area. Therefore you can't really determine what it is, so it's of no use in challenging my definition of a world (well, "my" definition - I'm just going by how it is represented in the game).  Kingdom Hearts isn't encountered until the final boss fight, so it's impossible for it to be in the Journal (just like the [[Bit Sniper]] - you never get the chance to look at the Journal after seeing it).
== October 2010 ==
* My point with the Barbossa and Ursula examples was not that these were their actual home residences, but that world subsections/areas are not listed under "home world". We don't list Ursula's Lair as Ursula's home world, so we don't list Christmas Town as Santa's home world. There is no difference in how Ursula's Lair and Christmas Town are presented within the context of KH.
* The plot does not state they are parallel worlds, that's your interpretation and that's original research.
* You proved my point by stating that "Port Royal" refers to the entire planetoid (I take it you mean world by that). "Halloween Town" also refers to the entire planetoid, including Christmas Town. CT is not a seperate planetoid, it's part of the planetoid - the world - Halloween Town. That may not be the way in the story it is derived from (''The Nightmare Before Christmas''), but that's the way it's been incorporated into KH. Mind you, I'm not saying it makes sense - it also makes no sense for the Clock Tower to be a part of Neverland, ''but that's how the game treats it'' so that's the way it is.
* Imagine if New York State was a world in KH just like Halloween Town or the Coliseum, consisting of NYC (Halloween Town/the actual Coliseum) and Albany (Christmas Town/the Underworld). The home "world" of someone from Albany would still be referred to as New York, even though NYC and Albany are two distinct cities. I know this analogy isn't perfect but I hope you get the point I'm making.
* If the Underworld and CT are listed/mentioned as sub-worlds on this Wiki, that should be changed since it's original research. They're areas in worlds, that's how they are presented in the game and there is nothing that isn't original research that refutes that. Just because you're interpreting the plot in a certain way doesn't make it so. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 00:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
#Dive to the Heart is listed for KH1 and KH2, in both the bradygames and Ultimanias. It's room names also appear in the game's pause screen. Whatever the circumstances of the Kingdom Hearts, the point is is that the game does not always show the logo/video, if there is something preventing it.
#Ursula's Lair is considered part of Atlantica by the story.
#It very explicitly states and treats them as separate worlds. Again, please read the game script or journal transcript - they always say stuff like "We went from Halloween Town to Christmas Town", etc.
#The game mechanics treat CT as part of HT. HOWEVER, Story-wise, it is just another world accessible from HT, just like 100 Acre Wood is accessible from Radiant Garden, or TWTNW from Twilight Town - HT and CT even have a convenient wormhole, through the trees.
#Your analogy is completely faulty. New York City != New York State.
#They are absolutely presented as distinct from the "logoed" world.


Finally, (1) Original research is not prohibited on this wiki, speculation is. If we banned OR, we'd not have any more info here than wikipedia did. (2) You need to provide sources for your assertions, by the way.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:26, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
{{Grimreaper10000|time=04:48, October 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=It's already the third of the month, and there's no new Article of the Month. Did...someone just forget or something...? I cast my vote in for Xehanort...}}
 
{{Galexgan|time=08:05, July 26, 2010 (UTC)|text= Just wanted to mention that...
# Just because a third party guide says something doesn't mean a thing. I've read several of the guides that contains faulty wording. (Not specifically KH. And please excuse because this memory may be faulty in itself, though I'm pretty sure I've said to myself more than once that something was wrong in a guide.) Also, the Dive to the Heart/Awakening appear to be connected to a person going into a dream of their own as stated in the KH wiki article itself. There has been no conclusive proof to it's being it's own full fledged world as of yet.
# I didn't exactly understand the Ursuala's Lair part either but he makes a point with Isle De La Muerta.
# You say original research is prohibited but don't provide resources yourself to the topic being challenged. Simply stating that something does say something doesn't mean anything either, you could just be lying? Not calling you a liar but it's a possibility that anyone can be a liar to suit their own need in the situation. Nobody wants to go about reading the entire Journal script just because you ma say it's in there so just asking, but could you please point out specific points in the story if you believe it's in there.
# But 100 Acre Woods does contain it's own spot in the Journal because it IS it's own world, same with The World That Never Was. And there are gates to those for specific story reasons as well. SO if Square wanted Underworld and such to be their own worlds then they would be, but their not, so they can't be their own worlds.
# I agree with you about the New York thing... Thats confusing. Something was off about the logic.
# And again, where at is it stated?
}}
#What Galexgan said.
#You're still missing my point. My point is not that Ursula's Lair is not a part of Atlantica (it ís, part of it, I'm not disputing that). My point is that world areas are not listed as home worlds for characters.  
#What Galexgan said. Besides, what you quote doesn't say CT is a seperate world.
#Idem.
#"''The city is often referred to as New York City or the City of New York to distinguish it from the state of New York, of which it is a part.''" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City] How was my analogy faulty again?
#How's that?
As for OR, how about you provide a source stating that it is allowed on this Wiki? Genertally Wikipedia's also apply to other Wikis. What allows this Wiki to have far more info on ''KH'' than Wikipedia is not the useage of OR, but the fact that since this Wiki is devoted to ''KH'' we are allowed to write "in-universe" and can go into far more into detail than would be considered encyclopedic on the main Wikipedia (for instance, seperate pages for all the ''KH'' worlds would not be allowed on thje main Wikipedia but are allowed here, allowing us to put a lot more info into them). [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 12:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


== The New Look ==


Im sorry Kingdom Hearts Wiki, but this new look is anoying and confusing, if you please.... CHANGE IT BACK!!!


Galexgan: You're calling me a liar because the citations I provide disagree with you, but you're so monumentally lazy that you refuse to look up any other citations yourself. Please leave the discussion, because you are wasting everyone's time.
Wikia changed it. We did nothing. [[File:Haste KHBBS.png]][[User:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=deepskyblue size=2><b><sup>==</sup>Pea</b></font>]][[User_talk:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=lawngreen size=2><b>14733<sub>==</sub></b></font>]][[File:Auto-Counter KHBBS.png]] 07:51, October 22, 2010 (UTC)


Xerruy: There is no point in just saying "idem", especially if you don't make it clear what you are referring to.
Well then Wikia change it back!!!


#The official, licensed guides each say that the Dive to the Heart is it's own world. Saying "Well, the official material could be completely wrong" is an empty argument.
If you read the forum with all the cursing symbols in it's name, and when i say in its name i maean ''as'' it's name, you'll find that we've been trying to convince them to do just that, but they just don't wanna listen to us. and please sign your posts--[[User:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#000000">Shadows</span>''']][[User talk:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#505050">Twilight</span>''']][[File:Χ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png|50px]] 06:06, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
#Ursula's Lair is canonically part of Atlantica, in every possible sense. It is not a valid analogy by any means. A better source would be Agrabah versus the Cave of Wonders, which are also treated as distinct in the games and movies (For example, the city areas have "Agrabah: Room name", and the CoW areas have "Cave of Wonders: Room name". As for your claim that "world areas are not listed as home worlds", yes, they definitely are. Anywhere that says "Hollow Bastion" uses a world area name, as does the articles where your edits were reverted.
#Isla de Muerta is not separated, story wise, from "Port Royal". If I'm wrong on this, ''provide a source''. However, the game absolutely says CT is a separate place. They "go from Olympus Coliseum to the Underworld", they "go from Halloween Town to Christmas Town". CT is physically separate from HT, and is accessed through a wormhole from HT, just like TWTNW from Twilight Town, yes, they are both listed under Halloween Town planetoid, but it is obvious that is because they are from the same movie.
#NYC IS NOT NYS, IT IS A SMALL PART OF NYS. Halloween Town is Halloween Town. There is no "Halloween Town State" nor "Halloween Town City", and neither the games nor movies have ever claimed there were.
#I provided multiple quotes from the game, and pointed you two towards where more would be. Provide something from the games that backs up your claim, or accept the citations presented.


I never said OR was prohibited. Do you guys understand what OR is? If this wiki banned OR, we would not be allowed to write ANYTHING that hadn't already been written in a reliable third party source, like the New York Times or an IGN article. We would not have any game stats, or list character's home worlds, or any of that, unless Professional Journalist Pete Penciller had already written it and had it published in major syndication.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:30, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
==Command Board updating==
Yeah guys, all of the Heartless contained in the box have been updated accordingly.  They need to be replaced with more articles in need of repair.  I wasn't sure if I was allowed to do this without a staff member... so... yeah. Have fun. {{The Inexistentsig}}


{{Galexgan|time=22:24, July 26, 2010 (UTC)|text= Wow. Calm down a little alright. Whats the need for getting angry, it's a simple debate?
== Mirage Arena ==
# Alright, I don't have the purchased guides so I'll take your word for it until I can prove otherwise. I still can't see how the Awakening is a world, I belive that to be overlooked by Square and the authors then if it is in there.
#Hollow Bastion was later proved to be part of a bigger world called Radiant Garden, so saying something, unless it's an article from Kingdom hearts 1 specifically in which it is known as Hollow Bastion, is from Hollow Bastion would be wrong, as that is no longer it's name. (Unless like I said it's an article from Kingdom Hearts 1 only, then it might be fit to be said to be from Hollow Bastion.)
#Those citations you provide are outdone with the logic of me saying, "I went from the kitchen to the bathroom." It's all part of the same house so just saying you went from point A to point B doesn't have to mean you went to another world. Plus, if you watch the movie Nightmare Before Christmas Jack Skellington goes to a city populated by the living not through a portal, it may be safe to say that Santa Claus would deliver presents through the same way, just by flying to everywhere. The trees act like shortcuts to different areas located some distance away in a larger world...
#Which is where I now see how Xerruy's logic comes in, what it appears he saying is that assume New York state is Halloween Town world, then take New York City as Halloween Town town. Now use Albany as Christmas Town town. Someone from Halloween Town town is from the bigger world called Halloween Town, the same as someone from Christmas Town, just because their from Albany doesn't mean their not a part of the bigger state called New York. So in all they are from the world called Halloween Town world though they can either be from Halloween Town town or Christmas Town town.}}
*Yes, it is a simple debate. However, if you are not willing to put any work into researching your claims, and you're going to fling baseless accusations of lying, you need to leave.
*Hollow Bastion is the castle. Anyone from the castle is from Hollow Bastion.
*That "logic" does not disprove anything, as it is completely inapplicable to the discussion at hand. For example, your kitchen is not your house.
*I'm not disputing that Halloween Town and Christmas Town are presented as part of the same "planetoid". However, '''''within the game script''''', "Halloween Town" only ever refers to the town of the dead, ''never'' the Christmas portion. That is and has been the ''entire'' point of this discussion.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 02:27, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, they're part of the same "planetoid". And that planetoid is called "Halloween Town" (same for the Coliseum), which is where my NY analogy comes in (which Galexgan understood correctly).
Hollow Bastion and Radiant Garden are the same thing by the way, RG being its original name as Aerith said. But I think that's a different matter entirely. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 15:38, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
:I understand your analogy. It is not analogous to the situation, and it is not supported by the game script. There is nothing in the story to indicate that there is any kind of "Halloween State" which contains "Christmas Town", and that claim is in fact directly contradictory to the plot. I really wish you would, just for one second, actually find some sources, instead of throwing meaningless and irrelevant "analogies" at me.
:Hollow Bastion and Radiant Garden are not the same thing. Hollow Bastion is the castle itself - when Radiant Garden fell, only the castle remained, and that was all that people could remember. When the full world was restored due to Sora, people remembered the name of the world itself.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
::By the way, if you think my heart is "too weak to see the truth", Galexgan, how about you actually do some work and present a single source, i.e., truth?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:22, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
:::You're taking the analogy too literally. The "state" is the planetoid. As I have already said the game script doesn't really say anything about this one way or the other; I already posted other proof earlier (e.g. the menu, Journal sections, logo scene). I'm not going to post screenshots of those because I assume you own ''KHII'' just like I do. Also, how about we take this down a couple of notches? I'm talking to Galexgan ''and'' KrytenKoro. This is a simple disagreement, no need to make it any bigger than that. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 13:58, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
#Again, Xerruy, I ''fully understand'' that the game mechanics do not differentiate between Christmas Town/Halloween Town, Olympus Coliseum/Underworld. The character infoboxes, which this whole thing are about, are fundamentally story-based. The home world box even more so (it is where they are from, not which world you can talk to them on). Using gameplay definitions is completely irrelevant.
#As I've posted and said over and over, the plot and script ''always'' differentiates between HT/CT, OC/UW. CT is ''never'' said to be part of HT, UW is ''never'' said to be part of OC.
#''If you disagree with this'', post sources proving me wrong (it should be quite easy if you're right, as I'm claiming a negative - you have to show just one positive). However, the constant analogies to your claim are useless, since they have no actual evidence behind them and are largely inaccurate, and there really is no point to continuing this discussion until you guys find some sources.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)


{{Galexgan|time=00:14, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|text= Alright. Proof:
Can someone please put a link to the Mirage Arena on the homepage? I mean the Wiki Arena, not the world. [[User:Mynameissora|Mynameissora]] 13:50, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
"We stopped by Halloween Town, puzzled by its new appearance." From Jiminy's Journal.
If you look at the Halloween Town world it not only has Holloween Town located at the bottom of it but connected on the world itself is Christmas Town on the top. This is clearly visible even on the main "world" picture on the Halloween Town article, if you click the KHII tab.}}


This is ridiculous.
Yey! \:D/[[User:Mynameissora|Mynameissora]] 13:29, November 8, 2010 (UTC)


*Hades - Homeworld: Olympus Coliseum (Underworld)
== Hmm? ==
*Santa Clause - Homeworld: Halloween Town (Christmas Town)


You guys are in a huge debate that's getting nowhere. Quite frankly, i agree with Kryten. But if we're going to get snippy and technical, My suggestion above is a simple solution. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 00:30, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
I know you guys we're already talking about this, but is there a way to change the logo for this wiki? I'm not trying to complain...but I ''really'' liked the old look. How do we change it back?--M.R 02:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC)


{{Galexgan|time=00:51, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|text= That will actually work for me.}}
You have no idea how many of us want the exact same thing, unfortunately, it's only gonna happen if we can ever convince Wikia to make it an option again, but considering the complete jackases they've been about it, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 03:05, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
I like LA's solution. The decision why SE didn't seperate some worlds (even if they are by story logic) is cleary a gameplay decision. That's why The Mysterious Tower is seperated from Twilight Town in BBS.--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 10:32, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
::I went ahead and implemented LA's solution.
::Just to clarify, though, Jiminy was referring to how Halloween Town was decked out in Christmas decorations, as is referenced in the opening cutscene.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 11:34, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::This is a good compromise. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 01:19, August 1, 2010 (UTC)


== Speculation Page ==
== A suggestion. ==


What if we make a speculation and theory page, including with facts whose answers are already confirmed and facts which aren't answered.
You guys thought about getting a YouTube channel?


What would we use a Youtube channel for? And i don't mean that in the complete dismissal of the idea way, i mean that as an actual question, to what use would we put a Youtube channel?--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 23:11, November 16, 2010 (UTC)


For Example:
News perhaps? [[User:BlackSoulBlade|BlackSoulBlade]] 23:16, November 16, 2010 (UTC)


Who is the BHK from Anotehr Side, another Story (Deep Dive)?
We have forums for that--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 23:18, November 16, 2010 (UTC)
:Especially with the new fandom basis, we could have an official webshow. You know, each episode done by a prominent editor or two, you get to go over KH news, do a skit, etc. It's possible, I mean.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 01:42, November 17, 2010 (UTC)


Possible answers:
::Hey, since somebody is finally here, could an admin or mod please update the Command Board?  I was gonna update it, but I didn't think I should.  Unless I can.  Then I'll do it, but I'm not sure what should go up there.  {{The Inexistentsig}}


  - It's Tidus
By the way, the person who posted that question, that's me Ethan, I have another suggestion, can you include the Gummi Ship thing in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix?
  - It's a new character
==Monaco is available on shoutwiki==
For those who miss Monaco, Monaco is available for wikis on shoutwiki, click through on the below link. Thank you. [[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 22:36, November 30, 2010 (UTC)


==Is your wiki still planning on leaving wikia? ==
Hello, someone on this wikia wrote on the  [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Anti-Wikia_Alliance&oldid=587256 Anti Wikia Skin Alliance] '''Moving''' page, that your wikia is moving. Please remove your wikia's name or add your wikia to the '''Moved''' Wiki page.


Confirmed Answer:
Sorry if I posted on the wrong page, it is often difficult to quickly find where to post.


It's a new character called Roxas, the nobody of Sora.
Thank you. [[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 22:36, November 30, 2010 (UTC)


==North America and European, North America and PAL==
When it comes to certain content that the original japanese didn't have, you guys put either "north american and European" and "North american and PAL". CAn't we just put in "International" instead? I dont remember any kh games having content exclusive NA and EU or NA and PAL. I think it was both NA, EU and PAL, meaning international.[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 00:01, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


{{Chitalian8|time=00:05, December 8, 2010 (UTC)|hane= The US and PAL releases of KHBbS had exclusive content <small><small>until BbSFM</small></small>}}


Are you sure? In an interview, i clearly heard "international"[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 00:13, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


Or:
"International" sounds fine to me. It'll do away with EnglishJoker's nonsensical claim that "Western" is a racist term.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}00:23, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


When Terra encounters young Riku from behind, he can see a young Guy (later confirmed as Master Xeanort in his youth) and Riku in several years later (Kingdom Hearts II design). What could that mean?
Sounds good. I'll work on it for everything that has NA and PAL or NA and EU. because clearly, they wont leave out or the other.[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 01:33, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


Possible ansers:
:Eh. False. There IS exclusive content between North American and PAL and Japanese versions of the games, even when the Final Mixes are brought into the mix. Birth by Sleep is the most recent example of this. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 01:37, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


  - This shall show a connection between Riku, Terra and Master Xehanort, since Master Xehanort is from Destiny Island like Riku and Terra resembles Master Xehanort in his youth
Japanese didn't get NA content. ANd again, I'm not arguing the content, i'm arguing from what region it's exclusive. The reason why japanese are getting a final mix is specifically to satisfy japanese fans for not having time to add the additional stuff the international one had.[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 01:55, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
  - There is not really a connection, but Square-Enix wants us to make some tension
:If anything, "International" is more blatantly racist, since it has a blatant supposition that if you're not Japanese, you're a stranger. For those who care about such things.
  - Nothing. It was just a phenomen
:Not all of the non-Japanese games are released in all three regions, as far as I know (Re:CoM, for instance).[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 05:04, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


:''"Japanese didn't get NA content."''
:Mysterious Figure, Pete DLink, Crown Stickers. Congratulations, you failed. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 05:05, December 8, 2010 (UTC)




I don't want a page, so that everybody can post a random speculation, but a lot of Wikis does have a speculation-page, so why shouldn't there be one in this, too?


We could safe the page, so that only admins or mods can edit the it. [[User:Zyrax|Zyrax]] 23:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
@krytenKoro= OK, what!? How the heck is international "racist". It's being used in term of region not "race".  It's not a matter, of if you are Japanese or not, but where it was released. If we state that it was released internationally, it would be better than saying it was released in North America, Europe and PAL. As For Re:Chain of Memories it was released in japan and north America, but I'm talking about content in the same game that has different content in different regions, but for KH it's usually either international (NA-EU-PAL) has new content, or it doesn't.


There is absolutely no point in including information that already has a confirmed explaination. It ceases to be speculation at that point. As for the idea of the page itself, if everyone was allowed to post every theory that crossed their minds, it would be an absolute mess of a page. If only staffers could edit it as you suggested, that simply wouldn't be fair. We have the Twilight Town forums for this sort of thing specifically.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}23:16, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
let me explain, content in re:chain of memories was the same in japan, then it was in North america.  


== Bug Blocks ==
for mysterious figure, it's quote different, it's not enough to just say "it came out in birth by sleep and birth by sleep final mix" because not all "birth by sleep" games had the same content. for birth by sleep, the new content was added in the international version. but the articles differ within BBS, each stating "NA and PAL" or "NA or EU" version have them, which is inconsistent.
I just wondering if we can create pages on the different types of bug blocks after Kingdom Hearts Re:coded comes out in Japan. In the video shown below, there are more types of blocks whan in the original Coded. There are:Blocks that combine into one(Which gives Sora SP), Purple and Yellow Blocks with stars on them, disappearing and reappearing blocks,  electric-looking blocks that damage Sora on contact, etc.
<youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtalG59Cnyk</youtube>
{{User:Keyblade0/Sig}}


It would probably be better to mention them on the main [[Bug Block]] page rather than create whole articles for each of them, but yeah, they should be noted once we get more info.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}19:03, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
@maggosh, what the hell are you trying to prove? that i'm right? because, you sound like a sarcastic jerk, who doesn't even know what he's saying.[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 05:34, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


== The countdown is wrong ==
:No, I'm proving that you're wrong. You said the Japanese didn't get NA content, which is wrong; KH Final Mix is the first example. The Platinum Match, and the post-Hollow Bastion Heartless bosses were originally NA exclusive, but then KHFM was released and they became non-exclusive. With BBSFM, the Mysterious Figure, Pete DLink and Crown Stickers will become non-exclusive.
Can somebody fix it? The text's gone all funny, with the actual timer part having vanished into the aether. [[Special:Contributions/82.37.246.236|82.37.246.236]] 07:14, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
:It looks fine to me... Is anyone else experiencing problems? {{User:Dan da Man36/Sig}} 09:55, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
When I'm logged in, it looks fine. But, if I log out, the countdown section looks like this: Only September 7 2010 00:06 UTCThe North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep is on the 7th of September! GMT until the North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep! Just that, and no actual countdown.{{User:Keyblade0/Sig}}


Same here. It looks normal when your logged in but when you log out its messed up. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 18:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
:''"content in re:chain of memories was the same in japan, then it was in North america."''
:That's actually a function of how wikia handles non-logged users. There is no way to fix it from our end.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:02, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
:Wrong again. There was a feature in the Jap. release which coincides with KHIIFM. The ability to obtain certain Cards was changed in the NA because of this. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 05:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
::maggosh may be being sarcastic, but he's right; the Japanese got the added feaures in the NA, PAL, etc. releases vis the Final Mix version of the game. By the by Kryten, "international" just means "of or dealing with multiple nations". When someting is released outside of its country of origin, it becomes international. There's no racial connotation to it whatsoever. EDIT: Seriously though, this doesn't need a huge overblown argument. "International" covers all the releases after the initial Japanese release. Am I missing something? What is there to argue?{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}05:43, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


== Rich text editing==
:::I dont see anything mentioning it in this article. And no Final Mix has yet to release, and even if it does, that changes nothing. Look at Kurt Zisa page for an example. I'm just saying we replace NA-EU-PAL content that the original version of the game didn't have to "international".[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 05:57, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
There is no rich text editing. :(Yuffie, the Great Ninja MASTER!!! 23:20, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


It screwed up the coding of the pages and added a bunch of random spaces everywhere from what I understand. We had to reqeust that it be disabled.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}23:28, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
::::1) What article? This is the talk page for the Kingdom Hearts Wiki main page. 2) It's been confirmed that BBSFM is receiving ''all'' of the features the original Japanese BBS did not have, plus some unique ones. The actual ''[[Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix]]'' article has not been updated recently, but it is [[User:Soxra/Lab/Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix|in the process of being drafted]] as such.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}06:04, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::::I believe he's referring to ''Re:Chain of Memories'''s page, which, contrary to his claim, states, "In the Japanese version, having a cleared Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix save file on your memory card will allow Sora to obtain a second set of treasures from the Room of Rewards on each floor." [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 06:05, December 8, 2010 (UTC)




== Repetitive ==
THe process is different, but i don't see it how it relates to it not appearing in re:chain of memories. NA has same content as the JAP one. just the process is different, again, not relevant to the main discussion.
I've noticed that some of the FF and Disney characters oh their original appearances (be it movies or games) in their main section. So, my question is if it is already in the Origin section is it truly needed? I'm just curious. [[User:Venitus|Venitus]] 18:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


== Bit of a screwup... ==
As for LapisScarab, i'm not talkinga bout "exclusive" content, and if i did say that, my mistake, but BBSFM will defintely be different from BBS. let's pretend BBSFM already released, how will this afect this discussion?


I've noticed if you go on the home page as an Unregistered Contributer, the countdown to Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep reads: Only September 7 2010 00:06 UTCThe North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep is on the 7th of September! GMT until the North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep!
for example, again kurt zisa page. but i guess i have to be more direct than that.  SO i;ll just show you what it has, and how it could look like.


Can someone please fix it if you can?
[blockquote]Kurt Zisa is an Emblem Heartless that is found only in the North American and European versions of Kingdom Hearts and in Japan only in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix. [/blockquote]


--[[User:Gr8champ|<font color="green">'''Look at me...'''</font>]] [[User talk:Gr8champ|<font color="purple">'''Look at me!'''</font>]] [[User:Gr8champ/Dissidia:Kingdom's_Fantasy|<font color="blue"><small>'''Do I have gum in my teeth?'''</small></font>]] 10:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
this is what it could look like.  
[blockquote]Kurt Zisa is an Emblem Heartless that is found only in the International versions of Kingdom Hearts and in Japan only in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix.[/blockquote]


:Scroll up two sections dude.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}10:25, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
^^See? I dont see why this is a big deal.[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 06:13, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
::It also only works on the Monaco skin. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 10:27, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


== New welcome template? ==
:I think I misunderstood you again. I'm actually in favor of what you're suggesting - using "International" in place of "NA or PAL". That's what I'm curious about; what's there to argue about that?{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}06:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


Did it get changed around? If so, why didn't mine change from Organization XIII to the new one?--[[User:Lord Captain Cecil Harvey|Lord Captain Cecil Harvey]] 01:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
::Eh, it's what he does.
::I would write instead "Kurt Zisa is an Emblem Heartless that is found only in the international and Final Mix versions of Kingdom Hearts", (which I believe is similar to something Kryten recently put on article, I forget which,) since Final Mix is patently a Japanese release.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 06:39, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::Lapis - I see what you're saying. I guess that makes sense.
:::Re:using "international" - as long as we have confirmation that the material in question appears in all of the NA, EU, and PAL versions, that seems fine.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 06:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
::::they all have the same, but the problem is not all of the KH games were released in all PAL regions, most of them (as far as i can tell) were released in Australia with one or two released in PAL, despite that, international serves for all outside releases, and all outside releases have the same content. i think the only thing that would have problems is re:chain of memories, but i dont think that would cause too much problems[[User:Bijinder 00|Bijinder 00]] 02:03, December 9, 2010 (UTC)


Because whoever gave you yours probably just copy and pasted the code for the template instead of <nowiki> {{Welcome|{{The Inexistentsig}}}} </nowiki>.  {{The Inexistentsig}}
==Clean up?==
Okay, I know that the "Clean Up of the Month" article has not been changed for some time. Is it because the Magic articles need more help? Or merely because someone forgot to change the article? --Never fear ... [[User:Superdog1123| Superdog]] is here! <sup>[[User talk: Superdog1123| Yipee! :D]]</sup> 18:20, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
:The Magic articles are a huge mess. Gravity and Aero are the only ones that are at all close to being cleaned up.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
::I thought Gravity was complete and was considered the "example" of the bunch? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 21:36, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::In a sense, yes. I cleaned up the Gravity article a long time ago, and then someone, I think KrytenKoro, changed a few things to fit a new format for the magic articles. It just needs to be standardized, and definitely still needs clean-up. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 21:40, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I kind of figured. I took a look at the [[Magic]] page, and definitely needs some attention. I just wanted to make sure. :) --Never fear ... [[User:Superdog1123| Superdog]] is here! <sup>[[User talk: Superdog1123| Yipee! :D]]</sup> 22:04, December 14, 2010 (UTC)


== a weekly poll ==
== Wikia Gaming ==


{{kingdomcode|time=13:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)|nala=i think there should be a weekly poll on the homepage other wikis have one this wiki should too}}
The box is terribly out of place. It might either be replaced or removed entirely. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 09:52, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
{{LapisScarab|time=13:47, August 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't much see the point of that, since we aldready have the Mirage Arena.}}
:I suggested it be replaced with a simple list of our affiliates. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 09:54, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
{{Chitalian8|time=16:12, August 31, 2010 (UTC)|text= I think it's a legitimate idea, since the polls can cover a greater variety of topics than just Character vs. Character or World vs. World.}}
::Yes, that's a good idea. The placement might be revised tho, because I think I saw it under the new skin and it was out of place as well.
::Of course, this will work to the advantage of the KHDB. I suppose the affiliates of the wiki will automatically become affiliates for KHDB? '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 10:01, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes, and we will need to contact our current affiliates to notify them of our departure from Wikia, as well as to ask them if they wish to affiliate with the Wikia, fansite-oriented KHWiki. It actually would be better if they didn't, for the sake of our Google ratings.
:::But that's beside the point; I was thinking just a bulleted list or one separated by hyphens. We could try small icons, though. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 10:08, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
::::Since we have more than 10, perhaps a hyphen-separated list. The box could be moved to the left side of the layout. I wouldn't really recommend graphic heavy, but I suppose small icons can work. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 10:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)


==Joint Struggle==
=="Facts?"==
{{Chitalian8|time=15:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)|mobile= Alright, if you guys could take a look at the joint struggle section, you will see that some articles under the "expansion" topic are definitely complete, yet they still remain. For example, the Chimaera and Grand Ghost articles are set. Can a staff member please remove these?}}
{{LightRoxas|tron=One of the "did you knows" states that KH3D is the only game to exclude Olympus Coliseum. Technically, we don't know this for sure, and since the game hasn't even come out, or for that matter had a list of worlds released, it should be removed.}}


== KH BBS ==
Nomura himself stated that besides Traverse Town, the worlds in 3D would all be new. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 21:00, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
:Well, technically, he said he would ''try'' to use all new worlds in 3D. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 22:15, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
:We really can't take everything Nomura says at face value. He ''said'' there would be no BBSFM, but... And it just seems silly to me to pretend we know something about a game that is on a ''system'' that hasn't even been released yet.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}01:20, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
::Kill it now.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:25, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


Hey Guys, You Won't Believe This, But, KHInsider Forums Member "Forever Atlas" Has The English Version of the Game! 5 Days Before it's Release! --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 22:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
== Demyx Swearing? ==
{{Maggosh|flint=Wow! We don't care!}}


@Maggosh Lawlz, high five.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 00:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
Okay, something I've been meaning to ask for months: where in the name of Kingdom Hearts did Demyx swear in the series I looked on his page and I got nothing; I've played every game with him in it and read all the manga and I got zilch. Could someone clarify?--LexaIIIV 17:53, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


== Count Down??? ==
He curses in the manga when he finds out that everyone in Castle Oblivion died as far as I know. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 20:36, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


{{RN867|time=2:29pm|ven= ummm i was looking at the count down to kingdom hearts birh by sleep on the main page and how come it says that the game is going to come out on the 6th at 7:00???}}
Someone needs to add this to his page if this is true. ^_^ --LexaIIIV 17:44, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
{{Dan da Man36|time=18:37, September 4, 2010 (UTC)|lion=The countdown is set to GMT (Greenwich Meridian Time, the same as London / England / UK etc...) so it will end at 00:00 on September 7th.}}
{{Wildcats11630|text=Hi just wanted to let you guys knows that mysims wiki supports you. So yeah i see you guys use word bubbles to. Well at mysims wiki we discoverd them in 2009. Ya and most of are users have these cool sims like mine that look like them.So ya just saying hi.and aww my word bubble wont work .}}

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Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS[edit]

Can Anyone Post the batte music "Working Together" From Birth By Sleep? Not the Kingdom Hearts II Version.

No KH3, fansites mistranslated again:[edit]

Game Informer 207;

  • Bryan Vore: "Translations of your interview in the Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Ultimania seem to confirm that Kingdom Hearts III is coming along with two other games."
  • Tetsuya Nomura: "Kingdom Hearts III is not a confirmed titles. I actually phrased my answer for the Ultimania "two titles other than III" to avoid speculation that we were working on Kingdom Hearts III."
  • Bryan Vore: "Are there any hints you can provide about these games?"
  • Tetsuya Nomura: "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3."


Kingdom Hearts 3D released[edit]

Could someone update the home page to say that KH3D was released? Thanks=)--What the hell's a signature? 15:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

RE: your galleries[edit]

I notice at:

http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Sora#Forms/Costumes

The galleries are normal. As you may or may not know, they really messed up the galleries, causing a lot of frustration and anger. See:

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sarah_Manley/Design_your_own_photo_galleries

An editor wrote:

I checked with the custom CSSs and KHWiki do not have one. Everyone else who's dissatisfied can check and see one of the example pages, because Wikia seems to have overlook this.
I wish to highlight that one of the Wikis, the Kingdom Hearts Wiki apparently managed to keep their old Wikipedia-style Gallery intact. How can they not be affected?

So how did you all doe this ? I would be dying to know because I despise the new galleries too. Please message me on my talk page with a response, or let me know when you responded here. Thank you. Anno1404 01:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Facebook symbol.[edit]

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Organization 13 - If only the whispers at the top of the ladder carried to the bottom rung...
TALK - Parley!
Shouldn't there also be the Facebook symbol on the main page too because we have a page there too? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=143194599040436&ref=ts.

Hello? Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 15:02, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone?Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 22:01, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

What about this? Can someone attach it onto the page? (with permission, of course)

icon_facebook.gif --Axel - Boo to you too! pumpkin2.gif 22:08, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Helloooooo? Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 16:04, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't it say at the top of the page "share this article" with a facebook icon next to it? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 16:29, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Beside the twitter and freenode symbol, the share the article is only for the page to be shown on your Facebook profile. Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 17:41, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Then I don't know. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:44, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I just mean shouldn't we add the facebook symbol beside the microphone on the main page beacause we do have a facebook page? Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 21:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

October 2010[edit]

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Grimreaper10000 The Terra you know will be gone forever. — 04:48, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
Unversedlogo.png It's already the third of the month, and there's no new Article of the Month. Did...someone just forget or something...? I cast my vote in for Xehanort...

The New Look[edit]

Im sorry Kingdom Hearts Wiki, but this new look is anoying and confusing, if you please.... CHANGE IT BACK!!!

Wikia changed it. We did nothing. Haste KHBBS.png==Pea14733==Auto-Counter KHBBS.png 07:51, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well then Wikia change it back!!!

If you read the forum with all the cursing symbols in it's name, and when i say in its name i maean as it's name, you'll find that we've been trying to convince them to do just that, but they just don't wanna listen to us. and please sign your posts--ShadowsTwilightΧ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png 06:06, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Command Board updating[edit]

Yeah guys, all of the Heartless contained in the box have been updated accordingly. They need to be replaced with more articles in need of repair. I wasn't sure if I was allowed to do this without a staff member... so... yeah. Have fun. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON.

Mirage Arena[edit]

Can someone please put a link to the Mirage Arena on the homepage? I mean the Wiki Arena, not the world. Mynameissora 13:50, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yey! \:D/Mynameissora 13:29, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm?[edit]

I know you guys we're already talking about this, but is there a way to change the logo for this wiki? I'm not trying to complain...but I really liked the old look. How do we change it back?--M.R 02:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

You have no idea how many of us want the exact same thing, unfortunately, it's only gonna happen if we can ever convince Wikia to make it an option again, but considering the complete jackases they've been about it, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you--ShadowsTwilightΧ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png 03:05, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

A suggestion.[edit]

You guys thought about getting a YouTube channel?

What would we use a Youtube channel for? And i don't mean that in the complete dismissal of the idea way, i mean that as an actual question, to what use would we put a Youtube channel?--ShadowsTwilightΧ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png 23:11, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

News perhaps? BlackSoulBlade 23:16, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

We have forums for that--ShadowsTwilightΧ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png 23:18, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Especially with the new fandom basis, we could have an official webshow. You know, each episode done by a prominent editor or two, you get to go over KH news, do a skit, etc. It's possible, I mean.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 01:42, November 17, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, since somebody is finally here, could an admin or mod please update the Command Board? I was gonna update it, but I didn't think I should. Unless I can. Then I'll do it, but I'm not sure what should go up there. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON.

By the way, the person who posted that question, that's me Ethan, I have another suggestion, can you include the Gummi Ship thing in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix?

Monaco is available on shoutwiki[edit]

For those who miss Monaco, Monaco is available for wikis on shoutwiki, click through on the below link. Thank you. Anno1404 22:36, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Is your wiki still planning on leaving wikia?[edit]

Hello, someone on this wikia wrote on the Anti Wikia Skin Alliance Moving page, that your wikia is moving. Please remove your wikia's name or add your wikia to the Moved Wiki page.

Sorry if I posted on the wrong page, it is often difficult to quickly find where to post.

Thank you. Anno1404 22:36, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

North America and European, North America and PAL[edit]

When it comes to certain content that the original japanese didn't have, you guys put either "north american and European" and "North american and PAL". CAn't we just put in "International" instead? I dont remember any kh games having content exclusive NA and EU or NA and PAL. I think it was both NA, EU and PAL, meaning international.Bijinder 00 00:01, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


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20px-Pin_000.png The US and PAL releases of KHBbS had exclusive content until BbSFM

Are you sure? In an interview, i clearly heard "international"Bijinder 00 00:13, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

"International" sounds fine to me. It'll do away with EnglishJoker's nonsensical claim that "Western" is a racist term.LapisLazuliScarab00:23, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll work on it for everything that has NA and PAL or NA and EU. because clearly, they wont leave out or the other.Bijinder 00 01:33, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Eh. False. There IS exclusive content between North American and PAL and Japanese versions of the games, even when the Final Mixes are brought into the mix. Birth by Sleep is the most recent example of this. maggosh 01:37, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Japanese didn't get NA content. ANd again, I'm not arguing the content, i'm arguing from what region it's exclusive. The reason why japanese are getting a final mix is specifically to satisfy japanese fans for not having time to add the additional stuff the international one had.Bijinder 00 01:55, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

If anything, "International" is more blatantly racist, since it has a blatant supposition that if you're not Japanese, you're a stranger. For those who care about such things.
Not all of the non-Japanese games are released in all three regions, as far as I know (Re:CoM, for instance).(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 05:04, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
"Japanese didn't get NA content."
Mysterious Figure, Pete DLink, Crown Stickers. Congratulations, you failed. maggosh 05:05, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


@krytenKoro= OK, what!? How the heck is international "racist". It's being used in term of region not "race". It's not a matter, of if you are Japanese or not, but where it was released. If we state that it was released internationally, it would be better than saying it was released in North America, Europe and PAL. As For Re:Chain of Memories it was released in japan and north America, but I'm talking about content in the same game that has different content in different regions, but for KH it's usually either international (NA-EU-PAL) has new content, or it doesn't.

let me explain, content in re:chain of memories was the same in japan, then it was in North america.

for mysterious figure, it's quote different, it's not enough to just say "it came out in birth by sleep and birth by sleep final mix" because not all "birth by sleep" games had the same content. for birth by sleep, the new content was added in the international version. but the articles differ within BBS, each stating "NA and PAL" or "NA or EU" version have them, which is inconsistent.

@maggosh, what the hell are you trying to prove? that i'm right? because, you sound like a sarcastic jerk, who doesn't even know what he's saying.Bijinder 00 05:34, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm proving that you're wrong. You said the Japanese didn't get NA content, which is wrong; KH Final Mix is the first example. The Platinum Match, and the post-Hollow Bastion Heartless bosses were originally NA exclusive, but then KHFM was released and they became non-exclusive. With BBSFM, the Mysterious Figure, Pete DLink and Crown Stickers will become non-exclusive.
"content in re:chain of memories was the same in japan, then it was in North america."
Wrong again. There was a feature in the Jap. release which coincides with KHIIFM. The ability to obtain certain Cards was changed in the NA because of this. maggosh 05:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
maggosh may be being sarcastic, but he's right; the Japanese got the added feaures in the NA, PAL, etc. releases vis the Final Mix version of the game. By the by Kryten, "international" just means "of or dealing with multiple nations". When someting is released outside of its country of origin, it becomes international. There's no racial connotation to it whatsoever. EDIT: Seriously though, this doesn't need a huge overblown argument. "International" covers all the releases after the initial Japanese release. Am I missing something? What is there to argue?LapisLazuliScarab05:43, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
I dont see anything mentioning it in this article. And no Final Mix has yet to release, and even if it does, that changes nothing. Look at Kurt Zisa page for an example. I'm just saying we replace NA-EU-PAL content that the original version of the game didn't have to "international".Bijinder 00 05:57, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
1) What article? This is the talk page for the Kingdom Hearts Wiki main page. 2) It's been confirmed that BBSFM is receiving all of the features the original Japanese BBS did not have, plus some unique ones. The actual Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix article has not been updated recently, but it is in the process of being drafted as such.LapisLazuliScarab06:04, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
I believe he's referring to Re:Chain of Memories's page, which, contrary to his claim, states, "In the Japanese version, having a cleared Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix save file on your memory card will allow Sora to obtain a second set of treasures from the Room of Rewards on each floor." maggosh 06:05, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


THe process is different, but i don't see it how it relates to it not appearing in re:chain of memories. NA has same content as the JAP one. just the process is different, again, not relevant to the main discussion.

As for LapisScarab, i'm not talkinga bout "exclusive" content, and if i did say that, my mistake, but BBSFM will defintely be different from BBS. let's pretend BBSFM already released, how will this afect this discussion?

for example, again kurt zisa page. but i guess i have to be more direct than that. SO i;ll just show you what it has, and how it could look like.

[blockquote]Kurt Zisa is an Emblem Heartless that is found only in the North American and European versions of Kingdom Hearts and in Japan only in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix. [/blockquote]

this is what it could look like. [blockquote]Kurt Zisa is an Emblem Heartless that is found only in the International versions of Kingdom Hearts and in Japan only in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix.[/blockquote]

^^See? I dont see why this is a big deal.Bijinder 00 06:13, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think I misunderstood you again. I'm actually in favor of what you're suggesting - using "International" in place of "NA or PAL". That's what I'm curious about; what's there to argue about that?LapisLazuliScarab06:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
Eh, it's what he does.
I would write instead "Kurt Zisa is an Emblem Heartless that is found only in the international and Final Mix versions of Kingdom Hearts", (which I believe is similar to something Kryten recently put on article, I forget which,) since Final Mix is patently a Japanese release. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 06:39, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
Lapis - I see what you're saying. I guess that makes sense.
Re:using "international" - as long as we have confirmation that the material in question appears in all of the NA, EU, and PAL versions, that seems fine.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 06:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
they all have the same, but the problem is not all of the KH games were released in all PAL regions, most of them (as far as i can tell) were released in Australia with one or two released in PAL, despite that, international serves for all outside releases, and all outside releases have the same content. i think the only thing that would have problems is re:chain of memories, but i dont think that would cause too much problemsBijinder 00 02:03, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Clean up?[edit]

Okay, I know that the "Clean Up of the Month" article has not been changed for some time. Is it because the Magic articles need more help? Or merely because someone forgot to change the article? --Never fear ... Superdog is here! Yipee! :D 18:20, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

The Magic articles are a huge mess. Gravity and Aero are the only ones that are at all close to being cleaned up."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
I thought Gravity was complete and was considered the "example" of the bunch? maggosh 21:36, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
In a sense, yes. I cleaned up the Gravity article a long time ago, and then someone, I think KrytenKoro, changed a few things to fit a new format for the magic articles. It just needs to be standardized, and definitely still needs clean-up. --DTN Room Core.png 21:40, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I kind of figured. I took a look at the Magic page, and definitely needs some attention. I just wanted to make sure. :) --Never fear ... Superdog is here! Yipee! :D 22:04, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia Gaming[edit]

The box is terribly out of place. It might either be replaced or removed entirely. BLUER一番 09:52, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I suggested it be replaced with a simple list of our affiliates. --DTN Room Core.png 09:54, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that's a good idea. The placement might be revised tho, because I think I saw it under the new skin and it was out of place as well.
Of course, this will work to the advantage of the KHDB. I suppose the affiliates of the wiki will automatically become affiliates for KHDB? BLUER一番 10:01, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and we will need to contact our current affiliates to notify them of our departure from Wikia, as well as to ask them if they wish to affiliate with the Wikia, fansite-oriented KHWiki. It actually would be better if they didn't, for the sake of our Google ratings.
But that's beside the point; I was thinking just a bulleted list or one separated by hyphens. We could try small icons, though. --DTN Room Core.png 10:08, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
Since we have more than 10, perhaps a hyphen-separated list. The box could be moved to the left side of the layout. I wouldn't really recommend graphic heavy, but I suppose small icons can work. BLUER一番 10:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

"Facts?"[edit]

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One of the "did you knows" states that KH3D is the only game to exclude Olympus Coliseum. Technically, we don't know this for sure, and since the game hasn't even come out, or for that matter had a list of worlds released, it should be removed.

Nomura himself stated that besides Traverse Town, the worlds in 3D would all be new. Chitalian8 21:00, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, technically, he said he would try to use all new worlds in 3D. maggosh 22:15, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
We really can't take everything Nomura says at face value. He said there would be no BBSFM, but... And it just seems silly to me to pretend we know something about a game that is on a system that hasn't even been released yet.LapisLazuliScarab01:20, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
Kill it now."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:25, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Demyx Swearing?[edit]

Okay, something I've been meaning to ask for months: where in the name of Kingdom Hearts did Demyx swear in the series I looked on his page and I got nothing; I've played every game with him in it and read all the manga and I got zilch. Could someone clarify?--LexaIIIV 17:53, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

He curses in the manga when he finds out that everyone in Castle Oblivion died as far as I know. Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 20:36, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Someone needs to add this to his page if this is true. ^_^ --LexaIIIV 17:44, February 8, 2011 (UTC) Template:Wildcats11630

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