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:Wow, let me try changing the captcha questions. --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 11:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
:Wow, let me try changing the captcha questions. --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 11:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
== Specs about the wiki ==
Hey, I'm an admin of the French KHWiki, and we're currently looking into moving out of Wikia like you guys did a while back. It looks to me that you're the person who would know about the technicalities here, so here's a few things I'd like to know about this wiki: Where are you hosting it? How did you get your domain name? And how did you move all the pages from the old wiki to this one, history and all?
And if you don't know the answer to these questions, could you point me to the person who does? ^^' [[User:-Alarielle-|-Alarielle-]] ([[User talk:-Alarielle-|talk]]) 16:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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Um...

Kind of confused as to what's going on here.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 14:24, 7 November 2010 (EST)

Let me hear those questions. --Porplemontage 14:29, 7 November 2010 (EST)
  1. Can this be moved to khwiki.net, the site chosen in the forums?
  2. What is the hosting situation (bills, etc.)?
  3. Can we get Monaco, Oasis, and possibly Quartz installed here?
  4. Will you remove your "admin and bureaucrat" user rights once the move is complete?
  5. Can the current bureaucrats for the khwiki (Bluerfn and BebopKate) be given developer status, if that's necessary to install extensions?
  6. Could the syncing be done faster, and more up to date, if we got a full database dump from wikia? We're going to need to overwrite most of the current pages in the end, to get back to where we are now.

(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 12:16, 10 November 2010 (EST)

  1. It could be, but if the Wikia site will be continue to be called "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" it would be easier to build the name Kingdom Hearts Database than compete with the same name. Similar to the WoWWiki, Wowpedia situation.
  2. Hosting/bills are covered.
  3. A skin similar to Monaco may be installed eventually, but we're looking at Monobook for a while.
  4. No. I'm not going to interfere with the other admins but I need the rights.
  5. No, I'll manage the extensions.
  6. This is the complete Wikia dump from Oct 29. Newer dumps can be added on top of it. --Porplemontage 17:06, 10 November 2010 (EST)
  1. Extension-wise, we'd like to be able to install any extensions the community agrees to. If you are going to maintain the servers, can you agree to that?
  2. We would like to know if it would be possible to host other wikis on these servers. Please read this for more details.

Thanks!(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 20:49, 10 November 2010 (EST)

As long as the extension is secure and compatible with our setup, I shouldn't have a problem with it, but I honestly can't make any guarantees. You can check Special:Version for the list of current extensions; if any come to mind as missing we can talk about those now. Regarding other wikis--I deal with these one at a time. I'm not going to start up a bunch of new wikis for the network, but if a wiki community is frustrated and wants to move, I may be able to accommodate them. --Porplemontage 21:27, 10 November 2010 (EST)
  1. We are pretty set on the name "khwiki.net".
  2. Desire to retain Monaco was a big part of the reason for our move, so we would like Monaco installed as soon as possible, possibly followed by Oasis for those who liked it. Without Monaco, the community probably won't move here.
  3. The other wikis we were talking with would also be moving from wikia, and the main issue is that most of our editor-base is shared among these wikis, so we'd like to retain accounts across the system (for example, if an editor gets a talk page message on one wiki, he is notified across all the others). This is not quite as critical as Monaco, but still very important to us.
  4. Extension-wise, what we were planning on was having a page in the forums where users can request new extensions, both new ones and those that other wikis have used successfully. This isn't as critical as Monaco or khwiki.net, but we would like it to happen. When you say you can't make any guarantees, is that more "I'll try, but I might not be physically able to get them all", or "It's my decision"?

Thank you for your continued assistance. Cheers!(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 14:38, 11 November 2010 (EST)

Domain change is easy, but I'm not going to buy another domain unless the move is actually going to happen. Monaco is mangled up with Wikia's code and it's not as easy as just installing it. I read someone over at NIWA was working on making it a normal skin. I can't fix Monaco to work here, so that's up to you or someone else to fix it first. I know how to share a user table among wikis, but not how to get this cross-wiki notification example going. Extensions I'm saying it's my decision because I can't promise you'll get every extension you want; it totally depends on the extension in question. If the extension is small secure reasonable you'll probably get it.--Porplemontage 20:11, 11 November 2010 (EST)

User rights

I don't want to sound rude, but I should not have bureaucrat rights, only admin. If you could demote me, that would be great, thanks!(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 16:58, 9 February 2011 (EST)

Someone needs to promote everyone to their normal rights. --Porplemontage 17:00, 9 February 2011 (EST)

Sorry, just saw that after I demoted myself. Can you re-burea-me, then I'll promote the people that need it and demote myself again?(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 17:03, 9 February 2011 (EST)

I promoted the three editors that I could, but it won't let me promote anyone who hasn't edited on this wiki. I'm going to try and contact each of our past staff to see if they even plan on coming to this wiki, and if they don't respond soon, I'll just take that as them declining their status at this site. If neither of the current bcrats decides to come here, we'll hold elections to choose who we want to be the new bcrats, and I'll do my demotion after getting the winners of that set up.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 17:24, 9 February 2011 (EST)

Extensions

Are you the only one who can install extensions? If so, could you install this one, and if not, would I (as an admin and—at least for now—bureaucrat) be able to do it, and how? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 15:34, 13 February 2011 (EST)

The site already uses JS for tabs. For example, Grim Reaper. --Porplemontage 16:23, 13 February 2011 (EST)

Well, that's great and all, but pages like this one need the actual Tabber extension to work. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 16:26, 13 February 2011 (EST)

Maybe one day we'll only use the JS system. --Porplemontage 16:31, 13 February 2011 (EST)

Sure, if the templates can take it. In the meantime, are you the only one who can install extensions? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 16:38, 13 February 2011 (EST)

For real. --Porplemontage 16:44, 13 February 2011 (EST)

I'm bringing this up again because I realize that tabber doesn't work (for at least the past 3/4 months), is it possible to reinstall it or is it just conflicting with other extensions? Erry uEPKV.png 14:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

It's now time that we just use the JS version, as was discussed here. --Porplemontage (talk) 15:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Why is that so? You gave no explanation. Additionally, pages like AR Card are completely, if you'll excuse my language, fucked up. Tabber would make the job so much easier. Erry uEPKV.png 16:34, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, allow me to explain. It's easier to maintain the wiki with fewer extensions installed so as we upgrade and things change there is less likely to be compatibility issues. Since the wiki already largely used a JavaScript solution for tabs, it does not make sense to me to have an extra extension installed which does the same thing and is used less. Having JavaScript code and an extension to accomplish the same thing is inefficient because we either have an extension we don't truly need or extra JavaScript code we don't truly need. In addition, it means that there will be only one standard used across the wiki, and I think that consistency is generally good. With regard to that page, I fixed the issue. It was simply a matter of closing the initial div tags which encompass the tab divs. --Porplemontage (talk) 18:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Bugs

Please be monitoring Forum:Bug reports, as you are the only one able to deal with most of them; in particular, we are unable to upload new versions of images, because that same glitch has gotten active here. Thanks!"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 11:55, 16 February 2011 (EST)

I've seen a lot of new versions uploaded already. Many of the bug reports I can't really do anything about. --Porplemontage 12:57, 16 February 2011 (EST)

Monaco

I managed to contact the people at tfwiki, and it seems as if Monaco should be ready to be installed; at the very least, its skin is. Could you install it as an optional skin for the wiki? If there are any problems with that, could you specify what they are?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:52, 17 February 2011 (EST)

Tfwiki customized Monobook to look like Monaco. I've installed a copy of Monobook called Monaco, so we can use MediaWiki:Monaco.css to customize it. --Porplemontage 22:16, 17 February 2011 (EST)
None of the code I've found does anything, except for an old customization of monobook I found on the Transformers Wiki at wikia, which isn't what we're going for. I think that the classes must be named differently or something - I have no skill at css, and without being able to compare what's different between our version of Monobook and tfwiki's, I have nothing to compare, either."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:59, 22 February 2011 (EST)
I did find this and this, though they seem to have some problems to them as well, from what I've heard reported."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:24, 22 February 2011 (EST)
Thanks! I think we've got it mostly up to speed again. We can fix the sidebar header images ourselves, but the biggest problem I see is that the sidebar does not tree properly, and that the monobook and monaco sidebars use the same definition. I'm not sure how to make them tree, so if you can fix that I would be grateful, but I think I can make it point at the right sidebar definition article. Thanks!"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:05, 22 February 2011 (EST)
Also, is it possible for us to edit the toolbox? And, if possible, I'd like the different sidebar boxes to have rounded external corners, but flat internal corners. Thanks!"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:47, 22 February 2011 (EST)
Edit the toolbox how? I don't know how to make the sidebar tree; some sites use JS. --Porplemontage 18:08, 22 February 2011 (EST)
As far as I can tell from reading howto's, to make Monaco default, you'd need to edit LocalSettings.php. Could you do that?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:29, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

Sure. --Porplemontage 17:17, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

New Skin

A user and I have been working on making and organizing a new skin. At this stage, we need access to installing files to the MediaWiki folders, and KrytenKoro told me only you could do that. Would you be willing to do this, please? All details can be found here, thank you. --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono Vsymbol1.png 23:57, 19 February 2011 (EST)

Yeah. --Porplemontage 01:38, 20 February 2011 (EST)
I've tried modifying the css for roundedblue to use File:wiki-blue.png, but apparently that is only for hover-over. Would you be able to tell me where the regular callout for wiki.png is?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:24, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Loading

Why is it that this wiki is so slow? It's not just me, and it's only this site; I can load every other page I browse faster than this, even 1080p HD videos on YouTube. Is it a server problem?

[18:10:31] <ErryK> Why is the wiki so slow? <_<
[18:11:15] <ErryK> My internet is speedy and loads all sites faster than it does the KHWiki.
[18:11:14] <Sove> It's the server

And as can be seen here, DTN protests too. I'm not trying to sound ungrateful here, but it's kind of distressing. Any way to remedy this? --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono Vsymbol1.png 13:15, 21 February 2011 (EST)

It's because of the backed-up job queue. --Porplemontage 13:28, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Group rights

We would like a few changes to group rights:

  • Administrators: +noratelimit, +suppressredirect
  • Patrollers: +noratelimit, +suppressredirect, -block, -checkuser, -checkuser-log

Also, we would like "Patrollers" changed to "Moderators".

Thanks!"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:16, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Seems reasonable. --Porplemontage 21:47, 21 February 2011 (EST)
I missed two of the rights requested; could moderators also have +move-subpages and +movefile? Thanks!"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 10:45, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Developer Status

Hi Porple, I want to help out with the visual appearance of the site, however I cannot get direct access and I really want to touch up the site. Is it possible I can get Developer status? Even though I was told you'd be the only developer, but you're not awake all the time, it's better to have at least two. Or at least for a temporary time. Erry uEPKV.png 14:10, 23 February 2011 (EST)

What files do you want to modify? If you want, you can send me the modified file. --Porplemontage 14:14, 23 February 2011 (EST)
go.gif to Search-Roundedblue-GoButton.png
search.gif to Search-Roundedblue-SearchButton.png

title-toolbox.gif to Sidebar-Roundedblue-Toolbox.png
p-personal-bg.gif to rw875d.png

Erry uEPKV.png 14:29, 23 February 2011 (EST)

Changed the last two through CSS. The first are now those wiki images, so if you want to change them just upload new versions. --Porplemontage 14:47, 23 February 2011 (EST)

Can you make the magnifying glass image a wiki-based image? Erry uEPKV.png 15:14, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Instead of that, can you replace the magnifying glass with this please? --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono Vsymbol1.png 20:38, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
I'll do both. --Porplemontage 22:23, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

Monaco Sidebar

EDITPAGE to see the full conversation.

So, anyway, Soxra (a web designer, literate in JavaScript and CSS) and I were wondering if you could possibly have Monaco run off of MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar instead of MediaWiki:Sidebar. If you have any questions, it would probably be best to direct them towards Soxra, as I am not good with coding. Thanks! KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 22:54, 24 February 2011 (EST)

It's not liking the new name. Check out this stuff, you can login with your wikia credentials and switch to monobook. For each item in the normal sidebar, a menu can be made off that. Halopedia monobook js and Sidebar js. --Porplemontage 02:08, 25 February 2011 (EST)

I went ahead and threw the js up so that it can be fiddled with. It seems that the monaco css might need to be manipulated as well (or, more likely, that the js files need to actually know what the other one's named)."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 11:17, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Right in both cases. The code is functioning now, so you can go ahead and customize the menu items/CSS. --Porplemontage 12:19, 25 February 2011 (EST)
When I try to branch out one of the menu items, the branches don't display past the right border of the sidebar. However, on Halopedia they do this easily. Can either you or Soxra figure that out?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:24, 25 February 2011 (EST)
Also, must the root item (for example, "Worlds") exist at MediaWiki:Sidebar as well, or can we set up new roots on the js page?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:25, 25 February 2011 (EST)

They expand for me. Roots need to be one of the sidebar items. --Porplemontage 14:02, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Alright, I've done some trials (using default CSS) and found something kind of interesting. Despite the sidebar being set up properly, sometimes the sidebar doesn't come up at all:

sidebartrials.png

You can see on the top and bottom right images, the expansion and arrows come up just fine. But on the bottom left, it does not. This seems to be accompanied with the page taking longer to load, perhaps because it can't find the Monaco.js file. I confirmed this through element inspecting in Chrome; for the bottom left example, the resource for "Monaco.js" is not loaded, despite "Monaco.js/Sidebar.js" being loaded. For the other two examples, it loads just fine.

I'm really not sure what can be done about this. As far as I can tell the issue is on the server end, with Monaco.js just not loading properly. The only other thing I can think to do is put the jQuery code in Monaco.js/Sidebar.js instead, though I'm not sure this would work 100% of the time.

As for the content and CSS, we can adjust that pretty simply once everything else is up and running.

I'm headed out for a while, I'll check up on this when I'm back. Soxxeh 8:15pm, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

MyHome extension code

The extension code can be found here and here. maggosh 14:02, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Yeah, but it's a Wikia extension. --Porplemontage 14:39, 25 February 2011 (EST)
Kryten asked me to link you to it. maggosh 22:35, 27 February 2011 (EST)
What needs to be done to make it usable on this wiki?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:23, 10 March 2011 (EST)
I don't know. --Porplemontage 16:07, 10 March 2011 (EST)

Patrolling

Anyway to add a button for it on the Recent Changes page? --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono Vsymbol1.png 15:29, 27 February 2011 (EST)

A button for Special:Patrol on something like MediaWiki:Recentchangestext? Of course for the individual items you just hit diff. --Porplemontage 15:34, 27 February 2011 (EST)
No, the individual Patrol button, but on Recent Changes so navigating to the page isn't neccessary. Y'know how you kinda know how some editors don't vandalize? And I mean like the [Rollback] button. --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono Vsymbol1.png 15:37, 27 February 2011 (EST)
Trusted editors should be placed in the autopatrolled group so you don't have to patrol them. --Porplemontage 15:41, 27 February 2011 (EST)

Walkthrough namespace

Hey, Kryten asked me to request for you to create a Walkthrough namespace. maggosh 14:22, 10 March 2011 (EST)

Sure. --Porplemontage 16:15, 10 March 2011 (EST)

My editcount is gone

Hello. I'm here to say that my editcount is gone. It was reverted to 0. Compare the one in this Wiki with Wikia's and you'll see. Also, the problem must be recent because when we first moved, I made sure to check my editcount here and it was fine. Is there any way to fix this? Demonic Saint 18:50, 10 March 2011 (EST)

I'm seeing some edits: 126. Let's wait on the job queue. --Porplemontage 18:58, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Block settings

Hi, Kryten told me to inform you that we don't have a "allow user to edit talk page" option under Block. He would like you to apply it as an option, and amend his own block so he is able to edit as such. Thank you. maggosh 18:50, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Sure, but why did he block himself? --Porplemontage 18:55, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
Forum:Oasis, that's why. --Sove 18:59, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

I Have Something To Ask You

Hello. I'm UxieLover1994 of the Spyro Wiki. We moved to ShoutWiki late last year due to the Wikia skin, but now ShoutWiki's playing up, and I've not edited there for about a week. I thought they would be better than Wikia, but I was wrong. I regret this move, and now I'm thinking of becoming independet. I'm kindly asking if you could help us, please?

I'm the main administrator over there, and I have been active since March 2010. UxieLover1994 02:43, 21 March 2011 (EDT)

I'll take a look when it's back up but I can't commit to hosting it. If you decide to host yourself I can assist there. --Porplemontage 13:45, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
I would like to host it myself, but I'm unable to pay for it. Is there a way to avoid paying, even if it means advertising for other websites? And thank you for your assistance. If the ShoutWiki site does not come back by March 30th, you might have to visit Wikia's version. I'm trying to change the wiki to make it more Spyro-themed, so I won't mind restarting. UxieLover1994 01:44, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
Oh, and one more thing: we want Monaco, as well. UxieLover1994 01:56, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

Google Adsense may be best to offset the cost but you need a bit of traffic. --Porplemontage 16:50, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

Can you give me a link? (Sorry I've not replyed). Also, if ShoutWiki's not back by tomorrow night, well, who knows what will happen... UxieLover1994 08:41, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
Adsense - you'd need to get the website going before you sign up. --Porplemontage 08:45, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
Thanks, but it says I need an Adsense E-mail account (though I already have a Google Account), and I've already got two E-mail accounts. I don't want a third, y'know. Is this really needed. UxieLover1994 08:51, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

It's a long-term thing. It's not going to help you get the site going. --Porplemontage 14:09, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

What do you mean? (And I think it's better off you visit Wikia's site. ShoutWiki has been destroyed) UxieLover1994 05:40, 30 March 2011 (EDT)

Mind Made Up

I've made up my mind (Sorry it took a while); we will move to our own host (with adds, since I'm unable to pay for stuff on the internet). ShoutWiki will be back online soon (hopefully). But I still need a lot of help. Can you explain more? (I'm currently the only active member there at the moment, so that's one reason why I need help). UxieLover1994 05:00, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

Well, have you started looking at webhosts? --Porplemontage 05:04, 10 April 2011 (EDT)
Yes, but I cannot use webhosts.com, since I'm unable to afford it. Is there another way, or is it hopeless to start an indepenet wiki on my own? If there is, can you tell me? I'm being very positive. UxieLover1994 05:10, 10 April 2011 (EDT)
I'd say start with shared hosting; I've used this company and didn't have any issues. You can get a domain from GoDaddy for $7/year. I don't know of a way to go without making purchases online. --Porplemontage 05:18, 10 April 2011 (EDT)
But even then, I would have to pay. It's no use. I'm just going to stay with the crashing ShoutWiki until someone who can afford it joins the Spyro Wiki. I'm so sorry I got you in on all this. UxieLover1994 05:26, 10 April 2011 (EDT)

Sidebar

I'm trying to get the sidebar fixed, and I think I've found the main issue with the last try. However, I've noticed that the font-size of the cells increases the further into a tree I go, and I can't find any obvious controls for that action in order to fix it. Could you take a look at it?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:50, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

I think the font is fixed. The submenus are not always working for me now though. Also the other language links to Wikia--it's probably not best to send traffic to Wikia--it's a black hole, they are not linking here. --Porplemontage 16:50, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

Math extension

I'm not sure what's entailed with this, but I'd like to have the "math" extension that wikipedia uses. If that's not possible, I can use image substitutes, but I'd prefer the math extension."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:53, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, but there's a lot that goes into getting that to work, and it's really not worth all the trouble. Using images will have to suffice. --Porplemontage 22:40, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

Humble question...

How would you feel about moving the Chronopedia (this) like you did the KH Wiki? If not, do you know anybody who can or is willing to? Thanks. --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono Vsymbol1.png 19:59, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, but I'm really not looking to host more wikis right now. I don't know anyone specifically who would help, but you can try posting at NIWA to see if they have any advice. --Porplemontage 12:07, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

Favicon

You can change the favicon, yes? If you can, can you replace it with this? http://www.4shared.com/file/ZWAS2UIK/Favicon.html

Erry uEPKV.png 02:56, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
Sure, and it looks really nice. --Porplemontage 03:02, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Bots plus

What are our options for bots? Could we get AutoWikiBrowser?

Also, how much can we do to the script for the search bar? Could we make it like Wikipedia's, which shows redirects with the suggestions only if the article name isn't one of the suggestions? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 22:15, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Bots - You can do whatever you like. I personally don't know much about them, but on my other wikis users have been able to use them just fine. They are something you manage on your end. AWB - I read that's for Windows, so it looks like you use it on your own computer, not something I would have to install. For the search, we're using MW:Manual:$wgEnableMWSuggest with MW:Extension:TitleKey. I'm not sure what we would modify, exactly. --Porplemontage 23:07, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Forums

I noticed today that recently created forums aren't showing up in the forum indexes. KrytenKoro says this has been the case ever since we moved from Wikia. I even tried clearing my cache and refreshing several times, to no avail. Based on the timestamps on the forums in the index, it's taking about three or four days for a newly created forum to be put into the index. I'm not sure what the issue is, but do you think you might be able to fix it? This would greatly help draw attention to forums that need it. Thanks! --DTN Room Core.png 04:42, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

I've added links to refresh the page for now. --Porplemontage 05:51, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

Widget

Do you think you could install the widget extension as well as the soundcloud widget? Erry uEPKV.png 21:32, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Got it. Just keep in mind that local OGG files are ideal since they don't depend on another site to provide content. --Porplemontage 12:09, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
Thanks! But yeah, but we mostly use the .ogg files for game tracks. I don't want to fill the site with redundant tracks that'll only be used in the MA. Erry uEPKV.png 14:01, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

Extension request

We are having an "image purging" but the process becomes tiresome because all the images needs to be deleted manually (go to the file, click delete, give reason and confirm etc. for every image), so I got an idea and found this extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DeleteBatch

This extension would make the deletion process faster and much more finger sparing as admins only need to copypaste the filenames (File namespace is still needed, of course) and confirm, the script deletes all of the listed pages.

This extension is bureaucrat only by default so you would need to enable it for admins too, which is an easy task.

--Sove 11:00, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

I generally stay away from beta-tagged ones unless we absolutely need it. On top of that, you'll read on the talk page that it doesn't delete files properly. Someone has posted a fix on there, but I don't want to risk it on a big production wiki likes ours. --Porplemontage 21:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

UTC Timezone

Do you think it's possible for you to change the time that shows in signatures and edits to UTC? Because it's set to EDT... We've been wanting to solve this ever since we moved here. Erry uEPKV.png 14:51, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

Sure thing. --Porplemontage 19:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

New usergroup

Hi, this was decided in the Roundtable of July or June that we would make a new group that is specifically made for the Image Renovation Project. We need a group that has all powers that relate to images, such as moving and deleting them. Once it is decided you can refer to this forum and add users who have signed their signatures.

Specifically these rights:

  • delete
  • movefile
  • suppressredirect

Erry uEPKV.png 02:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Call it "Artists", please. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 02:52, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok; I'll let the bureaucrats place the appropriate users since it's within their power. --Porplemontage 02:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Related questions, is there a list of all the available individual rights, and are there rights that are not lists on the Special:UserGroupRights page? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 03:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Yeah; here is everything. --Porplemontage 03:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Multiple Upload

I'm not sure if this is fixable, but for multiple uploads, only the first image can be taken from a url, instead of all of them."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:33, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Also, I'm having trouble using the URL thing. On the multiple upload, it simply says the image is empty, while on the regular upload, I have to make a failed attempt to upload the file from the "browse" bar before it will let me type anything on the URL bar."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:46, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
We have the latest version of the extension; these are likely bugs and the thing is not well-maintained. I just messed around with it to show the five URL upload fields. Let me know if it works; if not, I'll just revert it back to the default latest version. --Porplemontage 14:55, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing MultiUpload since it's in that beta/never updated state and doesn't seem to be working properly. For the normal URL upload, selecting the radio button to the right of the text field gets everything going to allow text there. --Porplemontage 15:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Monobook

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UxieLover1994 Cuando la vida te da las herramientas, a construir motos libración — 12:14, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
480MS.png What happened to MonoBook? That's the skin I normally use on most wikis (excluding WikiSimpsons and, by force, the Spyro Wiki).
What was Monaco is now MonoBook and what was MonoBook is now ClassicBook. You can switch to ClassicBook in your preferences. The reasoning for this is that both skins are actually based off Monobook and this change makes it easier to keep the default skin up-to-date. --Porplemontage 14:40, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me. I'll switch it right away. :) UxieLover1994 14:51, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Quotes and Game namespace

We now need a Quotes and Game namespace, please."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 04:42, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok. --Porplemontage 06:03, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

New permission for moderators

Just decided with Kryten that it would be a good idea to allow moderators to edit protected pages, making their role more important. The right is named editprotected. --Sove 06:07, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing. --Porplemontage 06:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit Counts

In order for us to not look brand new around here, would it be possible to inflate the edit counts of Dark-EnigmaXIII and myself to the values from the Wikia site? EDIT: On a related note, the Editcount extension is not working properly; the code {{Special:Editcount/Soxra}} should produce something like 3,400, but instead produces 3,295. (example)Soxxeh 18:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

The extension just counts all the edits it finds, so there's no worthwhile way to bump up the numbers. It should technically be accurate looking at this wiki. The embed feature was removed because it invalidates page cache when it's used. So when it was used on the main page, it was an issue that our most popular page wasn't cached. --Porplemontage 18:59, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Linking

Hey, we've got a request for you. We'd like to be able to create an interwiki link with the Keyhole (www.kingdomhearts.wikia.com) that will go in the sidebar, like how the foreign-language ones are. I guess this means you'll have to add it to the wikifamily, or something like that. Right now we have "khw:" as the prefix, but if possible, we want to keep that for inline links and use a separate prefix for the sidebar link, "keyhole:". Can you do it? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 06:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

The only way to do it is in the languages box, so replace this image with something like "More wikis" and it will make sense. --Porplemontage 09:16, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Moving

Can you make it so admins and/or mods can move/rename categories? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Nope; I can't even do that. --Porplemontage 18:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Please see User talk:Soxra#Piped link space

"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:34, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I think Neumannz got it right; I've always done it without the space. --Porplemontage 19:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Neo Bahamut

<NeoBahamut> "Cannot log in, there is no user named Neo Bahamut." ~Later~ "You can't choose this name, there is already a user named Neo Bahamut."
<NeoBahamut> I searched him up, & it is in fact me.
<NeoBahamut> Why I can't log in, I have no idea.
<Sove> User account "Neo Bahamut" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page.
<NeoBahamut> http://www.khwiki.net/User:Neo_Bahamut
<NeoBahamut> And here I am.

Need fixing. --Sove 05:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

There's an error when authenticating with Wikia; don't know if it's temporary or if they're blocking us or something. You can have him register Neo Bahamut2 and then just rename. --Porplemontage 06:07, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Works for me.Neo Bahamut 2 10:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Need help with an extension

I'm currently hosting a wiki for a friend, but I don't know which one of the youtube extensions you are using for this wiki. There's like four of them. --Sove 14:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I used the Wikia one to ensure compatibility. Here it is. --Porplemontage 19:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

RC problem

Did something happen to the Recent Changes page? The collapsing feature isn't working right. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 02:39, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Should be good now. --Porplemontage 11:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, it does work, but now it puts a strain on my browser. Is it supposed to be like that? Also, what happened to the ability to edit sections from the "difference between revisions" page? It's not there anymore, even from the most recent. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 22:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

What browser are you using? And it looks like the edit sections thing will be fixed when we update to 1.19. [1] --Porplemontage 23:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Mostly Firefox right now. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 23:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm using Firefox 12 and it works normally. You can try a combination of other browsers/other 1.18 wikis to see if it's a MediaWiki bug, something on your end, or something specific to this wiki which would be due to a problem with our JavaScript. --Porplemontage 00:06, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Login issue

[2]

Xion4ever can't login due to that. --Sove 01:56, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

That was a problem a little while ago, but I already fixed it. --Porplemontage 01:59, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Changing German language links

Hi Porplemontage, one of our affiliates, the German KH Wikia, was replaced by a better and independent one. Can you change the interlanguage link so that [[de:]] links to the new one. Thanks. --ShardofTruth 23:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, and other bureaucrats can make the change in the future. --Porplemontage 01:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

RSS Reader plugin

Thanks for changing the language link Porplemontage. Could you check what version of the rss plugin is installed here? Maybe the <rss> parser extension is a standard one, I'm not really sure about this stuff. At the moment the command seems to be only capable of showing the title links not the description text, which would be very useful. Maybe there is another variable that can do that, but I haven't found it yet. Thanks. --ShardofTruth 20:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, the new extension has the description text as well as a bunch of other features. --Porplemontage 20:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Wow, that was fast. Thank you very much:-) --ShardofTruth 20:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but would it be possible to upgrade the extension to the latest version (2.16) or is there another technical problem that prevents that? --ShardofTruth 11:39, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there a feature we don't get in our version? I could try the latest and see if it works; we have the version we have because I used the MediaWiki 1.18 snapshot which is a version guaranteed to work with our version of the wiki. --Porplemontage 22:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

The formatting of the date looks odd (+0000) and also seems to differ from rss source to rss source. There is a parameter that should change that but it doesn't seem to be implemented in the 1.9 version. Curiously the extension wiki uses the same version of the plugin so I'm not sure if it really works how it was descriped on their page. Anyway I don't want to provoke software incompatibilities and there may also be a way to change the date input/output directly by writing a new template for that matter (but I have read more about it to be sure). --ShardofTruth 13:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Form: namespace

Could you create it please? Erry uEPKV.png 23:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes. --Porplemontage 01:41, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Could you also create the Video: namespace? maggosh 22:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Sure. --Porplemontage 23:10, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Danke schoen. maggosh 23:14, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

movefile

Could you remove the permission from the autoconfirmed usergroup? Thanks. Erry uEPKV.png 20:03, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You got it. --Porplemontage (talk) 20:54, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Countdown extension

Not sure, but could you install this extension for us? Erry uEPKV.png 15:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Let's use a JavaScript solution for this (it's best to not install an extension if we don't have to).

Enable JavaScript to view this countdown.

If it doesn't show up yet, clear your cache. --Porplemontage (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
It works! Thanks! Erry uEPKV.png 17:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

User renaming

So far, it's not widely known a bcrat can change a user's name, but in case someone asks for it. As you know, doing that requires the extension to reattribute all edits of the old name to the new name. This can cause high server load, which is why Wikimedia wikis don't allow users with over 10,000 edits to have a change (of course, they have more powerful servers, but also much more content than the wikis you host combined). What do you think is the maximum amount of edits your server can handle without disrupting the wiki and/or the server? It's best to come up with some number, an undetermined amount is pretty much no answer here. --Sove 04:13, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

There's no need for a restriction based on number of edits. Above 5000, the updates are placed in the job queue, so the operation is processed over time. The most I've seen for a renamed user on the Super Mario Wiki was 15,000 edits. A rule of thumb for bureaucrats would be not to rename too many users over 5000 edits in a short period of time to avoid backing-up the job queue. I don't know if this policy is still active, at least on Wikipedia. I was able to find a user renamed with 44,000 edits to make sure this wouldn't be an issue. --Porplemontage (talk) 04:40, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Skins

So, would you be able to install this skin for me? Erry uEPKV.png 07:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I installed it, but it seems almost unusable. I'll let you be the judge; I don't want to have a skin installed that's confusing. --Porplemontage (talk) 13:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I've tried testing it out but it's useless, so just go ahead and uninstall it. Erry uEPKV.png 18:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Wiki Proposal

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UxieLover1994 Nya? — 12:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
678FMS.png I'm sorry, but we cannot create an independent Final Fantasy Wiki. The staff at the current one refuse to move, and creating our own will cause controversy that could lead to a "wiki war".
To allow THTSNBN to hold SEIWA "hostage" like that just doesn't sit well. We'll continue this someplace else. --Porplemontage (talk) 13:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I suggest for now that we focus on the Square Enix Wiki. If you don't have an account, you can request one from Sove. We'll worry about an independent Final Fantasy Wiki later. UxieLover1994
Sounds good. --Porplemontage (talk) 14:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. What I've been doing today is a great improvement, and hopefully it'll continue on... UxieLover1994 15:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)


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UxieLover1994 Cuando la vida te da las herramientas, a construir motos libración — 11:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
480MS.png Actually, we're allowed to do a Final Fantasy Wiki, but we can only cover Final Fantasy XIII.

Actually, you can go ahead and create your own and we won't try to stop you or engage in "wiki-warring" (whatever that means), it just doesn't make any sense. Why have two competing wikis when you can have one high-quality one? That's why -- even though we don't much like Wikia -- we never left in the first place. Catuse167 (talk) 21:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

^ We don't like Wikia, but we put up with it. Wiki-warring is super bad. - TidusTehSacrificer357 23:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
As far as that goes, you don't have to have two competing wikis, as long as you make a concerted effort to get all the editors to the new address...you kind of need a community of editors who don't stand for being pushed around, like tfwiki. If a large enough portion of the userbase would rather put up with the things wikia does than use a different url, well, yeah, you get a splintered base."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:59, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Also, Porplemontage, Erry is going to try to get MediaWiki installed onto his hard drive so that he can host the FFXIII Wiki himself. I thought you should know. UxieLover1994 05:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I just started a discussion with the SEIWA staff where I feel a decision should be made before we move forward with any wikis. It's in the SEIWA staff forum so I think he should have access. --Porplemontage (talk) 06:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Blocking

Does Mediawiki allow you to block a range of usernames (spec. *The*Raven*)? If not, could you get me a checkuser on The Raven part 3, TheRavenReturns, and I think his first name was TheRaven? I'm not sure if he's using a proxy or just resetting his IP, but he's harassing Ninja and I'd like to just knock this out all at once."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

You can block a range of IP's but not usernames. Can you not use Special:CheckUser? --Porplemontage (talk) 00:17, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, but they're not closely related:
  • 98.66.39.123
  • 174.253.80.150
  • 74.177.57.163
  • 74.177.56.62
  • poss. 174.225.7.105

His usernames are more predictable, though. I don't think he's using a proxy, since all of the IPs still lead to the same locations, and he's not really...doing anything so far except harassing Ninja, who is promptly blocking him each time, but it would be nice if we could just put a lid on it."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:14, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Even if we did block names similar to The Raven, he could still create an account with a different name and harass. At least this way he's stupidly identifying himself and we can quickly take care of it. --Porplemontage (talk) 03:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

That jerk did contact me earlier this week, which I blocked him and remove the message from my talk page, but you can see it here. Since then, he hasn't really done anything else. He's a minor nuisance, and a rather pathetic one at that. Trolling the wiki just to get back at two people I admire. It leaves me a foul mood, honestly.--NinjaSheik 03:31, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Gif rescaling

I found this which I believe is the solution to our gif-thumbnail problems. The max size we want to upload is 800x600, maybe expand to 1028x720 later when KH HD comes out and I can upload gifs of that but, would the thumbnails, via that property, be animated? Respond to me ASAP. Erry uEPKV.png 12:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

I increased it to 1.5e7 and File:Ars Arcanum KHCOM.gif works now. You can do the math that 480 * 360 * 76 = 1.31e7 for that image. I'm hesitant to increase the limit any more because already creating new thumbs of that image takes a while because it's a lot to process. I definitely would not recommend HD gifs; it's best that they're sized for the article pages. For something where high-resolution is necessary, uploading an ogg video would be the way to go over a huge gif. --Porplemontage (talk) 13:26, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
What if the pictures were sized down from HD to something smaller yet keeping the aspect ratio? Erry uEPKV.png 13:27, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that's fine. As long as width * height * # frames is less than 15 million, you're good. You can even use images beyond that if they don't need to be resized for articles, you would just upload the image at the size you need. --Porplemontage (talk) 13:33, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Protection

Is there a way to protect a page from normal edits but allow bots? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:11, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I think you'd have to make the page admins-only and make the bot an admin. --Porplemontage (talk) 19:38, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

So, we've got a thing to talk to you about on IRC when you get the chance

That long-arse title, that."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 02:25, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Image Maps?

These, are they possible to implement? I don't want you to install them now or if they're there, that's great, but I want you to just confirm if it's possible to use them. Thanks. Erry uEPKV.png 09:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we have the ImageMap extension installed here and they work like this. --Porplemontage (talk) 15:13, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Video

I know thats theres a word for it, but I can't think of it at the moment. But is there any chance that we can add "Video" to the suite? So that this page can be move to Video:Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. So that we can do the same thing with all the other game pages. UnknownCheisā —— How Cringeworthy 01:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. The word is "namespace." ;) --Porplemontage (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Oooooh "namespace", I knew that. And, cool, thanks. Much appreciation. UnknownCheisā —— How Cringeworthy 01:50, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Ads

Some of the ads we're getting our the phony dating service ones like "ChnLove Date". Can we get those removed?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:19, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'm able to block ads by URL and added "chnlove.com" and "chnlovedate.com" to the block list. I'll need the specific URL's for other ones. --Porplemontage (talk) 03:36, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/8740012664256370798, match.com (unable to get the url from properties, but it's displayed on the banner), tynon.com, http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/11594927428474563059.98.223.96.49 05:04, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't believe Match.com and Tynon to be phony. --Porplemontage (talk) 05:19, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Well, I still don't think it's appropriate for a wiki aimed at minors to have ads for 18+ games or sites."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try making the ad filter more restrictive and see what happens. --Porplemontage (talk) 07:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Spam Accounts

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UxieLover1994 Cuando la vida te da las herramientas, a construir motos libración — 09:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
480MS.png Over the past three days, the wiki has been getting loads of spam accounts. Do you know what's going on?
Wow, let me try changing the captcha questions. --Porplemontage (talk) 11:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Specs about the wiki

Hey, I'm an admin of the French KHWiki, and we're currently looking into moving out of Wikia like you guys did a while back. It looks to me that you're the person who would know about the technicalities here, so here's a few things I'd like to know about this wiki: Where are you hosting it? How did you get your domain name? And how did you move all the pages from the old wiki to this one, history and all?

And if you don't know the answer to these questions, could you point me to the person who does? ^^' -Alarielle- (talk) 16:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)