Talk:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix

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Despite the surprising and sudden release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix, this page should only be used for discussion related to the article. Any discussions related to simply the game itself should be held in the forums, and will be removed from this page if posted.

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Hey, I'm fairly new to this wiki, but shouldn't this game be added to Remakes and Other Titles? I don't know how to do this, but I think someone should.RoxasNobody 02:42, September 20, 2010

Never mind, already done.--RoxasNobody 03:09, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Trailer

hi, I just found this video of the trailer, and i was wondering if I should post it on the page or leave it here in the talk page.

http://www.kh2.co.uk/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep/news/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-final-mix-trailer.php BigHeadZack 21:25, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Editing

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Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!
TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 11:51
Vsymbol.pngumm i was going to add the kingdom hearts main series navigation template but then i noticed the page was locked so i was wondering if someone could do it for me?


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Chihuahuaman What did i do!? What did YOU do!?!? — 04:09, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Vsymbol.png BbS FM is a remake, not a main game. But if the page is locked, it is better to keep it that way.


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Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!
TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 12:09am
Vsymbol.pngya its just i noticed it on the other final mixes and thought i should add it to this one. its probably locked because of all the rumors going around about it.

{{Game|BFM}} It's FMB, not BBSFM I can't edit it, so here ya go. Roxas pwns sora47 04:09, November 4, 2010 (UTC)Roxas_pwns_sora47

Monstro in Mirage Arena confirmed!

Here is a legit link that details that Monstro is a boss in the Mirage arena. http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/15/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-final-mix-has-a-whale-of-a-multiplayer-fight/ You fight Monstro from a beach, he can also swallow you, and you have to fight him from inside his stomach. Also, the article states that the player will be able to transform to an Unversed in the Mirage arena, using an ability called "illusion L". Here's the original source, http://www.famitsu.com/news/201010/15034744.html, but it's in Japanese. So, if you cannot read Japanese, open the link in the google chrome internet browser and it will translate it into english. Lapidothtill Marluxia (card).png 15:38, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

You do realize, of course, that info's already up on Monstro's page, right? maggosh 16:14, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bahaha...now I feel like an idiot -_-...but thanks for pointing out my ignorance, what about the illusion L bit? Lapidothtill Marluxia (card).png 16:20, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Release date

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Master Vantius - The light and darkness must be equal to bring balance to the worlds.
TALK - Master Vantius 20:52, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
BBSFM Japanese release date is January 20, 2011 http://www.khinsider.com/


Xemnas (Final Form)
Xemnas8 - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice?
TALK - TaLk?!?
Why hasn't anyone added the release date on the page. Someone who has connections to an admin or something should ask them to add it. It isn't a rumour, it has been annouced

Secret Episode

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RoxasNobody - My friends are my power!
TALK - Leave him to me! {{{time}}}
Vsymbol.pngI was reading one of Nomura's interviews (http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157115-full-nomura-interview-18-11-10-a.html), and I noticed that he very obviously stated that there would be a "Secret Episode" in this game. Isn't that worth mentioning in the article?

Well, if they get a "Secret Episode" I´ll be pissed off, but are we sure that Nomura said that and it wasn´t a mistraslation?--"Behold the endless Abyss!" -- Dark-EnigmaXIII 13:42, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

If you actually read the interview, there's a whole conversation on it, so I don't think it's a mistranslation. RoxasNobody

Since people want a draft, how about this. "Nomura recently announced that this game would have a "Secret Episode." Unlike the secret movies of past games, players will be able to control the characters in this episode. The criteria to unlock it is currently unknown." You guys would have to add it wherever you see fit, as there's no good place right now. --RoxasNobody

Well, I see now... Sorry about my skepticism, RoxasNobody, didn´t mean to sound rude--"Behold the endless Abyss!" -- User:Dark-EnigmaXIII 22:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Come on already!

This page seriously needs to be updated! It's ridiculous that it's locked, and the ones who do have access to it, are not paying it any attention. For instance, TONS of new information has been released, including the release date, and the box art was revealed today. Someone who has access to edit this page should either hop to it, or unlock it. --Breaktheice16 03:18, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I second what Breaktheice16 has to say. It is entirely ridiculous how this page has been locked, true it has been locked due to speculation and etc. But still, at least let users edit. ErryMerryChristmas!

04:28, December 2, 2010 (UTC)


Xemnas (Final Form)
Xemnas8 - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice?
TALK - TaLk?!?
I don't get is why this is still locked with nearly a month until it comes out; when Re:coded was unlocked for Users two months before release, so SOMEONE UNLOCK THE PAGE!!! please.

Must be because BbS is more popular than Re:coded. And yeah, the mods should unlock the article for users. Or at least update the article. The17Ultima Weapon Keychain KHBBS.pngMaster

You guys do realize that when a page is protected, you're supposed to post your desired revisions to the talk page, right? Posting well-written text, properly cited, etc. To be honest, the protection was put up because only vandalism and no worthwhile edits were being put up - it doesn't make sense to deprotect it unless someone demonstrates that there are worthwhile edits to make.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 07:22, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I put up the release date AGES ago up above, and still it has not been edited to include the release date. ErryMerryChristmas!

07:30, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

...I didn't know. But I've added the promotional artwork and someone just uploaded the boxart. Shouldn't those be added to the article? The17Ultima Weapon Keychain KHBBS.pngMaster

Kryten, there's a plethora of updated information above. maggosh 07:03, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
As has been stated several times: provide an actual draft. I don't know about the other admins, but I'm already running behind on several projects, and I can't peruse this page and compare it to the main article to find all the info to add.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 08:21, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
Exactly why you should unlock the page for only user-edits. And why should we provide a draft when we can add stuff and it can be easily reverted? It's not that hard to waste a few joules on clicking a button. ErryMerryChristmas!
10:14, December 3, 2010 (UTC)~
At least you can tell another admin to add the infos, right? I mean, there's someone who even listed the new changes, and all they have to do is to find the right words and add the infos. The17Ultima Weapon Keychain KHBBS.pngMaster
Seriously, guys, this is how protections on pages are supposed to work. Can you guys humor me at least once on this?(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 14:58, December 3, 2010 (UTC)


Xemnas (Final Form)
Xemnas8 - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice?
TALK - TaLk?!?
Another thing I don't get is that 3D isn't even annouced but anyone can edit it and there's been no vandalism, so why keep this page locked.
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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png Provide a draft of what you want to be added to the page. It's not an unreasonable request. If you do that, not only will the information be added, it will be organized. If you won't do that, why should you expect anyone else to?

I'm just not going to bother with this page again until it's been unlocked because you're not willing to co-operate with your community. ErryMerryChristmas!

01:03, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 02:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
IT IS NOT HARD TO SAY WHAT YOU WHAT TO SAY. Who's not cooperating? Just write down, simply, what you want to go in the flaming article, and watch the magic happen.
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KrytenKoro - Click
TALK -
Okay, here's the thing:

When an edit war occurs because editors aren't talking to each other, the page is protected so that they have to talk to each other. The purpose of a page protection is not to shut down the article, which is what always seems to happen around here. Just once, just flipping once, can people try to work together instead of just demanding things? I'd really like it if we could just act professionally this once, and hopefully it will catch on.

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Soxra - Surely you must've known that this was going to happen.
Have something to say...? - Til we find our place on the path unwinding.
Since no one else seems to want to work together on this, I took a little initiative and put up a draft page that you guys can contribute to. When we're confident that it has all the information we want to see on the new page, we can submit it to the admins and they can put it up at their discretion, and potentially unlock the article for our efforts.

So come on guys, let's work as a team. User:Soxra/Lab/Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_by_Sleep_Final_Mix

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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png Sounds like a plan.
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Soxra - Surely you must've known that this was going to happen.
Have something to say...? - Soxxeh 17:10, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
The draft page seems to be coming along quite well. We have a release date, new features, boxart & a promotional poster, and the article is worded and formatted well.

Does anyone else have anything to add or change before we submit it to replace the current article?


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Xigbar's Replica Data KHIIFM.pngAS IF!Xigbar's Replica Data KHIIFM.png You can talk all you want, but that won't change a thing.
How about the trailer on the official website?

To The Dark Distance View and No Heart

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WingBlade - Whatever it takes. Anything to save Terra and Aqua.
TALK - {{{time}}}
Your Japanese Tales have included info about BBSFM and it says that there's a new mission called "To Dark Distance View" and it will feature a new boss named No Heart. It also says that No Heart will be similar to Xemnas-Armor Form, uses a Keyblade and sitting on a throne.

I wonder what this guy can do? Man, I cant't wait!

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KrytenKoro - "I'm the doctor, I'm the patient. Don't forget that - it's important! If you love me like I love me, everybody will be sorry."
TALK -
Honestly, they're already adding in three new bosses, and the disc was quite literally near being filled in the American release. Without screenshots or a more reliable source, since no one else has mentioned this, I think we should be wary.

However, here's what the blog said:

The "Vista to Darkness" (闇への遠望 Yami e no Enbou?) was added as a new Mission to the Arena Mode. The new boss is "NO HEART". Its weapon is a Keyblade. Its appearance resembles Xemnas Armor, and when its sitting on a throne it is exactly the same. It uses taijutsu when it stands up.


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WarMonger89 Too bright a shine shows eyes of envy.
see, this is what i was telling you guys about. THEY LIKE TO SCREW WITH US!!!! i mean sure, they gave us a new boss only for us. but then a couple of days later, they come out saying that they are making a Final Mix with new stuff in it. I HATE THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!


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Dark-EnigmaXIII - Ones born of the heart and darkness, devoids of heart...
TALK - Those who ravage all worlds and bring desolation...
Wait, not only Monstro and the Armor of the Master... Now this "NO HEART" whos name is obviously refering to one of the things "Xehanort" is an anagram of? Damn, Im so pissed now...


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maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

Am I the only one who got the "A throne" hint?

Well, no, actually, some people on KHInsider got it. But it's kinda nonexistent, since it's a translation in the first place. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 03:31, December 12, 2010 (UTC)


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Dark-EnigmaXIII - "No one would miss me..."
TALK - Why did the keyblade choose me...?
Um... What did I miss, Maggosh? What is so important about the "A throne" thing?


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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera!
TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}}
Throne? King? Master? Land of Departure? *head explodes from too many questions*


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maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

A throne + X = Xehanort.