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| :I don't see a problem with spoilerific story summaries as long as [[:Template:Spoiler|the appropriate markers]] are used to notate this. I approve of the idea, by the way. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 21:35, 15 April 2011 (EDT) | | :I don't see a problem with spoilerific story summaries as long as [[:Template:Spoiler|the appropriate markers]] are used to notate this. I approve of the idea, by the way. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 21:35, 15 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| | {{AlVan|time20:36, 17 April 2011 (EDT)|text=Should we start making the walkthroughs now because no one has said no yet.}} |
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| | '''No.''' {{The Inexistentsig}} 20:53, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| | Well...................................................................ok. I could do either writing boss strategies or proofreading, though I'd prefer the former. {{User:CaelumLucisCaliga/Sig}} 21:56, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| | {{UnknownChaser|time=Time is base on the reality of our fantasy.|Noctis=I hope I'm not too late, but based on quick reading on everything everyone else had said, I good for it. But ENX shouldn't we have people working on walkthrough based on their main area of expertise and not by user name? I'm more knowledgeable in BBS (I been playing the game for a year: the original Japanese version, the English version and now the Final Mix version) rather then Days.}} |
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| | {{EO|time=22:10, 17 April 2011 (EDT)|text=Okay, I'm currently with my aunt, hence the inactivity in terms of my BBS guide I was ranting about, and I'm battling a computer virus on my main home computer, but here's what I have to say about this forum's latest developments: |
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| | @DTN - The problem with "spoilerific" walkthroughs, even with spoiler tags (again, this would just be making Wiki-walkthroughs redundancies to the Wiki's contents itself), is that you read them when you're just starting the game, and you're like "Aaw, crap! The entire story was just ruined! What's the point in playing now?" It'd be the same thing as putting the last page of a book first. We may as well say "TERRA BECOMES XEHANORT" after every other word >_> Anyways, I'm glad you approve<br> |
| | @A1Van - What The Inexistent said.<br> |
| | @SilverCrono - Glad to have your support.<br> |
| | @UnknownChaser - I merely suggested that method to make a point and better explain what I was thinking. As far as I know, that is not how we will do things.<br> |
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| | Once my aunt leaves tomorrow afternoon, I'll resume work on my personal guide. Hopefully I can get that virus fixed up (treating it requires completely re-installing Windows, re-establishing internet connection, and all that tedious trash), and then I'll be incrasing my activity even further thanks to being able to use my main computer again. Then again, I have a reasearch paper to write (during this wonderful spring break of mine, no less), so I'm not certain how much of what I just said will hold true...}} |
| | {{DTN|time=23:48, 17 April 2011 (EDT)|text=I fail to comprehend that as justification. |
| | ''(again, this would just be making Wiki-walkthroughs redundancies to the Wiki's contents itself)'' |
| | ::It is inevitable that writing a walkthrough will contain a degree of storyline in it. Even by just indicating what enemies you fight and worlds you fight in the during the final chapters of games can be interpreted as central parts of the story. Also, a walkthrough is going to be redundant to the wiki as a whole--the point is to bring multiple pieces of information together. For example, details in a walkthrough include boss strategies, locations of treasures chests, and navigation. These are all located on separate articles on the wiki for their respective individual topics. |
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| | ''is that you read them when you're just starting the game, and you're like "Aaw, crap! The entire story was just ruined! What's the point in playing now?" It'd be the same thing as putting the last page of a book first. We may as well say "TERRA BECOMES XEHANORT" after every other word >_>'' |
| | ::...No, I'm fairly certain that I would write "Welcome to the KHBBS walkthrough by DoorToNothing. This is the game where Aqua gets trapped in the Realm of Darkness, Ventus has his heart separated from him and is locked in the Chamber of Awakening, and Terra separates into the Lingering Will and Terra-Xehanort, the latter of which becomes Xehanort after losing its memories. Now, let's move on to basic controls." Assuming that the reader has the basic intelligence to (1) read the walkthrough in chronological order and (2) realize they are at a risk for spoilers if they choose to read further than they are in the game, there should be no problem with including spoilers, or even ''basic story summaries'' to at the very least explain events to the players. To exclude spoilers as a whole is like saying that you are not writing a walkthrough, but rather how to play the game, regardless of its story. You no longer are writing about a game, but rather about its gameplay, which certainly does ''not'' make up the entire game. |
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| | To all involved in discussion: it is extremely vital to keep in mind how much we are limited or restricting in a walkthrough. A walkthrough is an example of personal writing, and such needs to be decided to be written professionally or casually. Professionally seems to be in the vein of what KrytenKoro mentions of having "official wiki walkthroughs," though I don't see why other walkthroughs for the game cannot exist as well. It seems more to me that several of the restrictions and limitations defined here are better handled by the author of the walkthrough, their decision mostly dependent on what style they hope to achieve. |
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| | Also I have rocket-powered fists.}} |
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| | {{AlVan|time11:19, 26 April 2011 (EDT)|text=It's been a week since we last discussed this. Do we have our final decision yet?}} |
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| | {{Chitalian8|time=16:03, 26 April 2011 (EDT)|text= The fate of the Walkthroughspace will be decided at the upcoming [[KHWiki:Roundtable|Roundtable]], our monthly IRC meeting.}} |
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| | {{AlVan|time10:55, 1 May 2011 (EDT)|text=I guess that means I have no say in this...}} |
| | {{Asif|sho=Well, you will have a say in it if you come to the meeting, but if not...}} |
| | {{SilverCrono|time=10:59, 1 May 2011 (EDT)|text=This isn't Ancient Greece (was it Rome? >>), and this isn't an oligarchy. You come to the meeting, you talk, you get involved. Nobody is excluded as long as they try to be included. |
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| | So yeah, come to the meeting and get your opinion considered.}} |
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| | But if he can't get on the IRC... {{The Inexistentsig}} 14:03, 1 May 2011 (EDT) |