Talk:Castle That Never Was

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The Axel ressurection - I thought of that and was hoping it might happen by KH3.

- What does this have to do with the article?

Clean up[edit]

Would it be a problem if I were to properly clean up some of the facts and grammar in this article? It's haphazardly put together, badly worded, and contains a lot of personal opinions more so than actual facts.


"It is safe to assume that Xion, the fourteenth member, would have sat between Roxas and Larxene's seats"[edit]

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FA icon.png Since Days is out, what is the actual seating arrangement in Where Nothing Gathers ? It's high time we removed this phrase.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne

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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
I agree. Also, do the same for the Lounge.

Morghman - Now! Let's savor the utmost of suffering together!
TALK - As the other dies, their agony radiates through my body, and living through it is pure ecstasy!
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FA icon.png Has anyone got Days ? At least for now ? At least help us to solve this problem...

Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. TroisNyxÉtienne

I'm about halfway through right now, and so far the only meeting in the chamber has been when Xemnas introduces Xion. At this rate, it doens't seem likely that we'll be seeing where Xion sat. 01:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. We never seen Xion sat in the Round Room, because Xion is not really part of the Organization. It always have been the 13 of them.--NinjaSheik 01:53, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

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ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
DL Sprite Vanitas Icon KHBBS.pngXion had no throne. This is proven when Roxas makes a comment that she was "one of us", and Saïx comments "One of us? Preposterous. Count the seats. When have we ever been more than 13?"

Missing Rooms[edit]

In days beside the bedrooms and grey area we also see a computer room and a small library should these be added to list or not?--Masgrande 18:41, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah.--NinjaSheik 21:32, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Just to check was the library actually Vexen's room or something.--Masgrande 17:06, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

roxas weapons[edit]

--Zonnic2 17:01, October 28, 2009 (UTC) I'm confiused roxas gets the Oathkeeper/Oblivion after he leaves the organization why is it that when you enter the Proof of existing in KH2 the weapon of roxas is Oathkeeper/Oblivion not a kingdom key, but when axel battels roxas he says "two?" clearly stating that axel doesnt know about roxas his 2 keyblades

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ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
DL Sprite Vanitas Icon KHBBS.pngI think it was on his weapons panel because when the designers designed it, they hadn't really thought of him only having one at some pint and as far as we knew at the time, that's all roxas ever wielded save for his time in twilight town

Axel still knows that the dual Keyblades are Roxas's natural weapon (probably from seeing the battle against Riku, or from the Organization's knowledge of Roxas before replicating him - that first week?), and so he's remarking that Roxas has fully come back. Or, the Proof of Existence was not directly built, but is tied to the member's existence - which is why the dead members have broken panels.Glorious CHAOS! 18:08, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Demxy's tombstone number[edit]

It might be worth noting that the tombstone piece by Demyx's position is completely broken off. Thus, it could be originally from Marluxia's, and have been thrown across the room. There's certainly no way to disprove this. M0ffx 01:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Circle number[edit]

Could somebody confirm the number of circles on the Altar of Naught? I've counted them myself, but I can only get up to 13. 01:22, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is indeed only thirteen thrones in the room; Xion did not recieve one upon membership.--Xion4ever 01:25, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that's what the anon meant. There is supposedly 13 or 14 circles on the Altar. I'm not sure which.--Random!to a point! 01:26, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I see..well if (s)he is talking about the Altar of Naught and not confusing it with Where Nothing Gathers, then I'm not sure. I never really checked around the Altar of Naught, but I am positive that there is only thirteen thrones at Where Nothing Gathers.--Xion4ever 01:29, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is definitely only thirteen thrones in Where Nothing Gathers. There is no doubt about that. And on the article itself it says there are fourteen circles.--Random!to a point! 01:34, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I know the difference between the two. Even if I didn't, I could just read the page. Besides, I was just playing KH2, and I figured out how it gets to 14. That same circle pattern is also seen in Twilight's View about three times. 03:19, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


In the article it's started as "The Castle that Never Was" But the name of the page is just "Castle that Never Was". Should we change the name of the page to The Castle That Never Was? I know it seems kind of unimportant but whatever ._. --JFH_Sig_zpsfaa1e7d5.jpg 15:16, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Game calls it of Castle That Never Was so I think that the name should keep the same and just just take the bold text out in the word "The"--Xabryn 15:36, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Library and Computer Room?[edit]

Someone just recently added some images to the gallery from Days, and I'm almost certain that I've never seen them before. One shows Axel in the "Library", and the other has Xion in the "Computer Room", both places I'm dead certain were not in the game, at least not in the English version. could anyone clarify this for me? It may have just been an oversight on my behalf.

It was an oversight on your behalf.Glorious CHAOS! 09:41, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Kryten, I realize that now. I thought that when Axel had all the books on the desk, that was just his room, not a library, and I remember seeing the computer room now.

Throne heights[edit]

So, does anyone have a complete list of the throne heights from highest to lowest?--ShadowsTwilight 13:31, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe I'll find something about the different heights in the Ultimania, but I have a more pressing issue, the gamplay vs. story one:
It's a fact that the multiplayer mission aspect of 358/2 Days is not canon, simply because you can play with already "dead" members of the Organization. This was also stated by Hasegawa here. So what happens in multiplayer mode stays in multiplayer mode and this concerns the gameplay dependent moving of the chairs too (if you never played the multiplayer mode with other games, it looks like this).
All that is left of this in story mode is that the chairs' height are not fixated and that Xemnas always sits on the highest (and Roxas on the lowest). ShardofTruth 08:53, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay, that works. That bit shouldn't say "Nomura" said it, though, cause he wasn't talking about the multiplayer there. Let's just have coverage of the canon aspect, then a "canon" template callout stating that, in multiplayer mode, the height of the chairs is used to represent how many HP were obtained by each character."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:22, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

"Grey" Area[edit]

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png I've been working on abolishing the word "grey" from the wiki, and I stumbled across this. Can someone confirm if the room really is called "Grey" Area and not "Gray" Area?
KrytenKoro - "Punch your lights out, hit the pavement. That's what I call entertainment. Causin' problems makes you famous - all the violence makes a statement."
Yes, it is. It's actually that fact that had people going across the wiki and changing it to "Grey" in the first place.

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png A title of a room and name of an enemy should not affect how we write our articles. We use American English, and "gray" is the way American English uses it.


ANX219 Or when I'm by the sea... When I look at the water, and hear the waves lapping against the shore... it's almost like I can hear another voice. — 02:37, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
2YTDwh4.png Should the setting areas be shortened like the others or because this one pertains a lot to plot (which explaoins the lack of "story" xD), keep it lengthy?
TheFifteenthMember Yes. You're creepy. I can't say we'll miss you while you're gone, so it'd be best if you did go. We all win that way. TheFifteenthMember 13:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
I think they should be shortened and a story section should be added to match the other world/area articles.

Oddly, the bars of the cells are far enough apart that a prisoner could easily just walk out between them[edit]

I feel like this is a bit of OR commentary here."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


The manga includes a kitchen, with crates of "The fine water that never was"."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:08, 21 March 2019 (UTC)