Forum:Was the move a bad idea?

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AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know. TALK - {{{time}}} I've been looking at the old site and...it looks more cleaned up than this one. It also has more users. So now, I must ask; Would we have been better off if there never was a move?

Check Recent Changes. We've got more mainspace edits, which is really all that matters. --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono 16:27, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

We don't have to use Oasis anymore, and readers don't have to see Oasis when they read. Yeah, as Crono hinted on, we've got the harder workers at this wiki, while the rest stayed at wikia. We no longer have wikia staff breathing down our necks either, which is definitely a plus. I have no idea where you got "more cleaned up" from. Chitalian8 16:43, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

I meant some of our pages are kinda blank and they have more that are finished. My best example Is battle missions. P.S. If something I put down on the forum it's because I'm on my iPod instead of computer.

Wikia's editors are also very disorganized, look at their recent forums. Many of their edits are to the user talk space, and plus, our version of Battle Missions will be superior to theirs. Chitalian8 18:21, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

I just need to say this; Hell no. User:Erry/Sig4 19:09, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? The Mission articles didn't magically become blank because we moved. If they're incomplete, that means we hadn't finished them while we were a part of Wikia. A Wiki is virtually never "finished"; there's always going to be edits and changes and improvements to pages, whether we're on Wikia or not. And of course there's a different number of editors; we're seperate Wikis now. We don't have the same number of editors as the Zelda or Bleach Wikis either, but the number of editors doesn't matter, since the quality of the edits are good. Basically, the flaws you've attributed to the move are actually just typical things to find on a Wiki. They have nothing to do with our split from Wikia.

I response to your points:

• A page with less content is definitly not a bad thing. Most of the "new content" on the Wikia wiki is speculation, which is bad.
• True, Wikia is hauling in a large majority of the new users, but that doesn't matter. If you check this, at the very bottom, you will notice that we have at least 50 users that have made a total of 600 edits have editted here since the site was set up.
• No. In no possible way was it a bad idea. The problem with Wikia wasn't really about Oasis. While that was a big part of it, it was more about the fact that Wikia wouldn't listen to its users, the ones who made its bloody content. They constantly forced inappropriatly crappy updates on us, and we had enough.

KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 21:33, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Christ, bro. It's a little late to be starting a move complaint forum.

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}} Let's see...less vandals, less troublemakers, less problematic edits, no more host that doesn't listen to our RAGE complaints *coughwikiacough*, new (TOTALLY AWESOME) skins, and more awesome and neat articles. The only problem I see with the move is Chitalian and Ninja kinda lost their main job because of it, but that shouldn't be a huge problem for both of them, right? So I say the move was a wonderful thing to do. Besides, whenever I stalk visit the old wikia I see a bunch of problematic edits that I want to revert badly.

KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living." TALK - AlVan, I have a good comparison of our wiki to theirs: Aero. Wait, no. Sorry, that's not a good example. Even though our version has more content, it's still incomplete. I wonder why that is.

UxieLover1994 Nya? — 05:36, 7 May 2011 (EDT) 17m and The Inexistent are right. We're better than ever, the wiki is now free, and we won't have to worry about being ignored or being forced to use something that everyone hates. The Wikia staff are simply a bunch of selfish, snooty and money-hungry crooks. They won't delete inactive wikis, they ignore all complaints, plus they even try to buy other wikis.

As if! Oh. Hi. — "So. How are you holding up? BECAUSE I'M A POTATO." [clap clap clap] @Kryten: OUCH! Sure it is true (and maybe a little funny too), but let's try to stay on topic here. Although we did sever our community in two, I'd say it was a good decision. We no longer have Wikia's staff breathing over our shoulder (okay, that sounds creepy, but you get the idea). Now that the old wiki has become more lax on the rules, all the editors who only talked on peoples talkpages and created forums (which is BAD) have left and this one has become more focused on creating a quality encyclopedia. Not to mention the lack of trolls and incompetent users. Yeah, moving was basically the equivalent of putting the Mainspace in one wiki and the forums in another. I say it was a good idea.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Dial it down, Uxie. Yes, Wikia was being dickish toward the end and that's a major reason we left, but "snooty" and "money-hungry crook"? Hyperbole just makes arguments look childish. The Wikia staff are not the hellspawn people seem to think they are, they were just being stubborn and condescending. They have no obligation to delete a Wiki just because we left it. It doesn't matter anymore anyway, since we've already moved. Game over.

Actually, I think she was refering to wikis that were created years ago, have about two articles, and no editors. That, on the other hand, is extremely immoral, as those wikis have next to no viewers, and yet Wikia keeps them alive for the sake of the ads displayed there. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 11:59, 7 May 2011 (EDT)

That's what I meant. But I did hear that they deleated some wikis that were bullying users or because they were wikis created by people to get revenge on admins who banned them. But other than that, they will refuse to delete an inactive wiki. UxieLover1994 12:36, 7 May 2011 (EDT)

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 14:32, 7 May 2011 (EDT) Nothing I can say on this point wouldn't be an echo of something that was already said. To be brief, the move was absolutely not a bad idea; we are free of Wikia now (see above for further justification) and so forth. Also, KrytenKoro. Stop being so hilariously terrible, I'm going to pop a lung here.

There's no vandals because you've basically lost all your affiliates (except a few deserted subwikias and two youtube channels). The FF Wikia also refuses to become an affiliate, which is a major failure for the success of this site, unfortunately. 213.0.89.54 10:25, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know. TALK - {{{time}}} I wasn't complaining. The final fantasy wiki can't move, it's fine the way it is. But most importantly, Kryten, you're not funny at all.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? @anon: Yes, because websites are completely defined in their success by whether or not the Final Fantasy Wiki affiliates with them. And as it turns out, what you just said was complete bullcrap anyway, since all of them do link to us. @AlVan: That's not for you to decide, that's for the Final Fantasy Wiki and all of its users to decide. And you know what else isn't funny? You not doing your share of work on Aero.

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! To the random anon: We lost two of our affiliates, which is not "basically all" of them. And just because the FF Wikia doesn't want to affiliate with us doesn't mean we'll automatically sink. Even if we aren't affiliated with one website, we'll do fine. To AlVan: Regardless of what you thought of the humor, Kryten did bring up a good point: you did not do your fair share of work on the Aero page. You couldn't even add the icons; you tried once, your edit was reverted since you did it incorrectly, and then you all but vanished. The way I see it, you were more of an impediment to the completion of the article than anything else.

Chitalian8 Say... — And here's me, playing the world's tiniest violin. Your face is priceless. — 20:10, 8 May 2011 (EDT) Also, AlVan, boom, our Battle Missions page is now much longer and better than theirs.

UxieLover1994 Cuando la vida te da las herramientas, a construir motos libración — 02:36, 9 May 2011 (EDT) And I've lost nearly two months of editing at my wiki, AlVan. But I've not regreted my move, despite only a few editors there. Also, we've got less affiliates, but we've still got ourselves a good future ahead. I'm rooting for this wiki, y'know!

17master "Back. Off." To anon again, the old Wikia site is basically much more known because of all the ads wikia put in there. Also, we've been working really hard (correction, excludes me since I haven't been active much lately) these past few months and we're rising quickly through the google rankings. Soon enough we'll be on top and more users will come here. Besides, I don't think our affiliation with FFWiki really affects how many users visit this wiki. And to AIVan, stop complaining and do your share of work already, Kryten already did most of the parts and left you with the easy tasks, yet you disrespect him by not doing your share of work. So please, by all means, do it.