Talk:Kingdom Hearts Missing-Link
"No trailer stuff"[edit]
What exactly does this mean? Because I'd like to point out that Kingdom of Corona is blatantly seen in gameplay (along with something that looks like Twilight Town, and what looks to be the Realm of Darkness, specifically part of where Aqua went in 0.2, but I'm not 100% certain). Aidanzapunk (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- It means we don't add anything based on trailers alone. We only add information from sources like the press release, interviews, or articles in something like Famitsu. TheSilentHero 19:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Check this out. A LOT gets removed between a trailer and the final release, so there's a site policy of never adding in this sort of stuff unless it comes from direct interviews, quotes, etc. Even that is subject to change, but usually far less often - and I mean, we can't exactly leave the pages blank. --Samoa Joe (talk) 21:19, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- As a helpful tip, what we usually do is keep any trailer content info hidden on the article or make a rough draft on eithers its talk page or user(s) will take it upon themselves to create a rough draft on their personal sandbox.--NinjaSheik 00:34, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Does the "removed content" clause apply to the beta? —24.162.255.6 22:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, until the official release of the game, we won't make any new pages or sections for the beta content, even if we're pretty sure most of it won't change. But we're still keeping track of stuff in other places so we can be prepared for the launch, mostly here: Forum:Notes 56 (KHML, Everything) - ShardofTruth. —Aid1043 01:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Does the "removed content" clause apply to the beta? —24.162.255.6 22:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- As a helpful tip, what we usually do is keep any trailer content info hidden on the article or make a rough draft on eithers its talk page or user(s) will take it upon themselves to create a rough draft on their personal sandbox.--NinjaSheik 00:34, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Now that it's dead...what to do lol?[edit]
This is honestly pretty unprecedented area for this wiki and for us. We've never dealt with a cancellation before, but one of this nature is even MORE unusual because: 1-We've got a boatload of gameplay information that we held back on due to the release rule. 2-We've even an absolutely insane amount of assets extracted. Including things like UI elements, world textures and maps, models, planned worlds, and whatnot. 3-It isn't much, but there is some story information present as well. Granted, now that the game is cancelled, none of it can be considered canon....but still.
My question is...what to do with all of the above? While it's true that the purpose of this wiki is to provide factual and extensive information top to bottom, we're ALSO an archive of all things Kingdom Hearts. And since we already archive unused and removed content...I think we need to treat Missing-Link the same way, just on a much much larger scale. For stuff that will need to be placed on its own pages, we'll of course be needing a new header specifying it's for a cancelled game and should not be considered canon, etc etc. --Samoa Joe (talk) 10:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- One way to keep the info contained is to make everything a subpage. We could have articles like
Kingdom Hearts Missing-Link/Abilities,Kingdom Hearts Missing-Link/Characters, etc. We would also have to be careful about what info we use, since while a lot of legit stuff has been data-mined, there are some incorrect world lists or other "leaks" that aren't totally accurate. —Aid1043 15:22, 15 May 2025 (UTC)- I don't think we should create pages for things in ML. If any story elements or characters are important to the future, I'm sure they'll appear one way or another. Maybe we could just put all info from the beta on one page (maybe "Removed content/Kingdom Hearts Missing-Link"?), kind of how the pages for crossover games are now. There's also the forum linked above that can be used to collect all available information. TheSilentHero 18:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's too much to be contained to a single page. Maybe...maybe two. Three. But you're looking at infinite scrolling if you do one lol. The good thing is, nothing from ML has to be placed anywhere else. Like for example, we don't need to put anything on Gauges because it doesn't introduce anything unique there. Still...this whole thing is causing me to reevaluate the stance on unreleased game stuff. If we had bothered to archive all information as the tests were running, we wouldn't have to worry about all of this. I mean...literally very other game wiki does that even for stuff that's testing phases, as well as a changelog. But now, sure we have a crapload of stuff datamined, but we can't actually check to see which of it ended up in any of the respective tests, apart from videos on youtube, which let's be frank, do not have everything simply because the gacha in this one was just that ruthless, not helped by the fact that not many people actually wanted to spend money on something that only lasted like three days and wouldn't have carried player data over. Now I know some folks who are working to get a private server of the most recent build of ML up and running (contrary to what you might think lol...it's actually more than doable and already steadily progressing), but that's not gonna be happening for a decent while still. About the only rock-solid and fully reliable material we can go with is...on the visual/graphical side. But I'm still trying to figure what, and the how. >_< If you don't have it already, I can send it to you and you can have a looksee yourself first? --Samoa Joe (talk) 20:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think we should create pages for things in ML. If any story elements or characters are important to the future, I'm sure they'll appear one way or another. Maybe we could just put all info from the beta on one page (maybe "Removed content/Kingdom Hearts Missing-Link"?), kind of how the pages for crossover games are now. There's also the forum linked above that can be used to collect all available information. TheSilentHero 18:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- There is literally no differences with how information is handle than how its presented with Fragmented Keys's page.
- There is enough information for keep everything on the main page without making sub pages, since theres barely information about the game outsides of the elements that was in the Beta test of the game, that is the only thing that needs to be noted down on the page. UnknownCheisā —— Marika is Best Girl (◕‿◕✿) 04:09, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Hmm. Our general policy is to not include things from leaks and trailers, but when we're talking about canceled or removed content, that's different – and we've never had anything quite like this. In the past 24 hours, there's been a massive text dump of cutscenes and menus, a partial rip of the soundtrack, and other leaks, and I would be willing to bet that more is on the way. I think we should wait until things cool down, and then we can make a judgement call based on how much info there is and to what degree we think the wiki should host leaked information. —Aid1043 20:43, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, on second thought, I agree. A lot of folks are on edge right now over it because it hasn't happened before. openKH is in panic mode, so they're barring anyone from even sharing stuff from it. I think eventually things'll settle down and we'll be able to take stock of what we can represent here and how, though it isn't like I regret making this discussion or feel it was premature. --Samoa Joe (talk) 21:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)