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AROS - My friends are my power!
TALK - Okay, why not? I'll go with you guys." - 17:40
Okay, so by now we all know of *SPOILERS* Master Xehanort's true plan to assemble a True Orgainization XIII consisting of himself and twelve other present or would-be vessels. So far on the roster we've got:
1. Master Xehanort
2. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness
3. Xemnas
4. Xigbar
5. Saix

That leaves about seven unidentified members and one empty seat. From what Young Xehanort said, there were three possible candidates for the thirteenth seat:

A. Riku
B. Sora
C. Roxas

With both Riku in full control of his darkness and Roxas being to self-aware to be stable, Sora seemed to be their Plan B/Plan C.

As for the other seven, no direct hints or reveals of their identities have been confirmed so far. But a possible explanation (WARNING: SPECULATION ALERT!!!) may come from what Nomura said about Young Xehanort, that everywhere he goes, a person from the darkness shows up. Given the role that Ansem and Master Xehanort gave him, this could mean that the people he shows up with are people from different areas of time that are meant to one day become his vessels. This has proven true with Ansem and Xemnas, as well as Xigbar, but what about the other two beings that showed up to Riku and Sora out of nowhere? When Sora was in La Cite des Clotches, Vanitas appeared briefly alongside Young Xehanort while covered in Darkness, and in Monstro, Riku was confronted by what could possibly be either his Replica or even himself when he was still under Ansem and Maleficent's influence. Though it is true that Vanitas was probably an illusion and the fact that the cloaked Riku was alone while in Monstro, they still appeared before Sora and Riku as incarnations of their own darkness. Whether this means that they are possible vessels is hard to say, but considering that they were presented at all could suggest something. But in all likely-hood, Vanitas was displayed as an illusion to place doubt in Sora's mind and the Riku Replica/"past Riku" was sent there to act as a reminder to Riku of his decent into darkness, possibly in an attempt to have him loose faith in him self and give in to the darkness yet again.

But...I digress. All other factors aside, these are the two most solid possible members I can come up with, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm anywhere close to right. So what about you guys? Does anybody have any leads or thoughts? Maybe somebody has found something that I may have missed?


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LightRoxas - "This may seem like just a game to you, but to me, it's horror! Just go along and have your play time, but remember: I never asked for this!"
TALK - "The experiences we've had - they're what make us who we are. And while I may have failed here, I'll make sure the same mistake never happens again."
Firstly, thank you so much for having enough sense to put this in a forum rather than a talk page.

Anyways, I would be astonished if some form of Riku and Vanitas weren't members of the new Organization, simply because this seems to be the classic "face your toughest foes of the past" scenario. Additionally, I actually think that Maleficent might be a member, since she's been a part of Xehanort's plans in the past, and she could've been sent by him to capture Mickey in KH3D. I also wouldn't be surprised if we saw more "somebodies" of the original Organization, such as Marluxia or Larxene.

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KrytenKoro - And when you see me standing there, you'll know you've got a friend with a rock, I mean a big-ass rock.
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Vanitas, Riku Replica, and Terra-Xehanort, certainly. Based on Luxord being one of the last guardians of Xemnas in KHII, I would place him as one of them; in addition, I think Xion will take Sora's place as a seeker (and possibly be the undoing of the Seekers, as she wants to be Sora even more), finally explaining why her story is "what mattered the most".

I don't think Maleficent will be a member, as she's never shown any hint of sharing Xehanort's characteristics (no gold eyes, no pointy ears), and Xemnas's speech specifically rules out Marluxia and Larxene as traitors. Finally I think we might get No Heart and the guardian as unique entities, and maybe the Robed Figure as a final iteration of Xehanort's Heartless.


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AROS - My friends are my power!
TALK - Okay, why not? I'll go with you guys." - 12:09
These are some interesting ideas. I'm going to have to go with Kryten and say that we should rule out any notions of women or Disney characters being on the roster. Disney villains would be to redundant and wouldn't make any sense, Maleficent and everyone else clearly have their own separate agendas, and the fairy herself has even admitted that she is seeking towards conquering the worlds through other means (though I'm not sure how far a journal filled with data would get her). Also, I don't think I should have to explain this, but the idea of any women being in the group of vessels for an OLD MAN is a boundary that neither Disney or Square Enix would want to break. Though I would find it entertainingly ironic if Marluxia was one of Xehanort's vessels, he was the epitome of treachery, so unfortunately that rules him out too. I kind of have doubts for Luxord considering how he didn't show any obvious traits like Saix or Xigbar, but there could still be some hope for him, though I'm still not entirely sure. The Guardian is part of Ansem, so they both count as one person. No Heart...I don't really know, I'm not sure if he'll have any part bigger than a secret/final boss transformation, though it's more likely that Xehanort will just don the armor again, THAT would be cool. Terra-Xehanort is probably one of the more solid possibilities, considering how much raw strength and darkness he had at that time. Also, "Apprentice-Xehanort" might be a possibility, though I'm not entirely sure since he didn't have full access to his powers at the time. Considering how they are both the same person, I doubt they'll both be up at once, considering how much stronger Terra-Xehanort is. Robed Ansem...I don't think so. He had the ability to travel through time and manipulate/enter the darkness of another's heart, sure, but he doesn't really have anything in terms of offensive abilities. There's always the possibility of NEW characters being introduced, though this late in the saga, I doubt it.
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Heartless Emblem.pngI wouldn't throw away the Marluxia theory just yet, he did show some interest in the Keyblade, if Young Xehanort went back in time and offered him one I doubt he would say no, and also he uses an X shaped attack with the specter, yes the treachery thing is a down side but it is still a possibility. As for women Larxene is one of the original members and is a girl she was meant to be a vessel, so there may be females among the thirteen.
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KrytenKoro - "I'm the doctor, I'm the patient. Don't forget that - it's important! If you love me like I love me, everybody will be sorry."
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Um, I wasn't saying anything about women, just that Marluxia and Larxene seem unlikely to me based on what Xemnas explicitly said.

I absolutely think Xion would work, just as Xemnas originally intended her to. Remember, She didn't refuse to attack Roxas in the end.

P.S., if I understand Maleficent correctly, she could use the Datascape to find a way to the worlds, in the same manner that Xion could be created physically from Sora's stolen memories, or that rearranging Sora's memories would hide them in other people, or that the word "photograph" could be stolen from the digital Twilight Town. One of the prominent physics of the KH universe seems to be that the map, in some cases, is the territory. Or in other words, that fetishism works.

Is it possible for Xaldin to be a member? Xaldin/Dilan had many relations to Xemnas? ParadiseFusion15 (talk) 22:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Nope, Dilan's human again."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 05:23, 3 September 2012 (UTC)