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:Personally, I don't have a problem with a full list seeing as the navbar doesn't suffer from being too long. However, I get that it would be more consistent if we list it by first appearance, in which case I suggest that we possibly reorganise [[List of Bosses]] to list game by game rather than by boss type. And yes, those should be added. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't have a problem with a full list seeing as the navbar doesn't suffer from being too long. However, I get that it would be more consistent if we list it by first appearance, in which case I suggest that we possibly reorganise [[List of Bosses]] to list game by game rather than by boss type. And yes, those should be added. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
::Although I don't have a problem with the current list either, it would have a lot of double links. For example, the Darkside would be linked under KH, CoM, KHD, KHRec, and KHx. For the same reason, I think we should keep the List of Bosses page as it is. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:55, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
::Although I don't have a problem with the current list either, it would have a lot of double links. For example, the Darkside would be linked under KH, CoM, KHD, KHRec, and KHx. For the same reason, I think we should keep the List of Bosses page as it is. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:55, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
:::I made two versions of the template, one where bosses are only listed for the first game they appear in, and one where they are listed under every game. Which version looks better? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:04, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
{| class="collapsible collapsed" width="100%" style="clear:both; background:#D8BFD8; border: 2px solid #4B0082; border-radius: 10px;"
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! align="center" style="background:#4B0082; border-radius: 7px;" width="100%" |<div style="margin-left:75px;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Heartless Bosses</span></div>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts (game)|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Darkside]] | [[Guard Armor]]/[[Opposite Armor]] | [[Trickmaster]] | [[Stealth Sneak]] | [[Pot Centipede]] | [[Parasite Cage]] | [[AntiSora]] | [[Behemoth]] | [[Kurt Zisa]] | [[Phantom]] | [[Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]] | [[World of Chaos]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts Final Mix|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts Final Mix</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Red Armor]] | [[Sneak Army]] | [[Destroyed Behemoth]] | [[Arch Behemoth]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts II</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Possessor|Possessor/Thresholder]] | [[Shadow Stalker and Dark Thorn|Shadow Stalker/Dark Thorn]] | [[Illuminator]] | [[Blizzard Lord and Volcanic Lord]] | [[Prison Keeper]] | [[Storm Rider]] | [[Grim Reaper]] | [[Groundshaker]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Mushroom XIII]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Veil Lizard]] | [[Lurk Lizard]] | [[Powered Armor]] | [[Dark Follower]] | [[Antlion]] | [[Infernal Engine]] | [[Leechgrave]] | [[Crimson Prankster]] | [[Ruler of the Sky]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Dark Hide]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts Re:coded|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts Re:coded</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Sora's Heartless]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''Introduced in ''[[Kingdom Hearts χ|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts χ</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Behemoth Ω]] | [[Black Costume]] | [[Carp Submarine]] | [[Circus Fortress]] | [[Cruel Sweets]] | [[Darkside Ω]] | [[Egg Master]] | [[Fortress Crab]] ([[Fortress Crab Subspecies|Subspecies]]) | [[Guard Armor Ω]] | [[Hocus Pocus]] | [[Jack-in-the-box]] | [[Lion Dance Headliner]] | [[Malicious Reindeer]] | [[Noisy Wardrobe]] | [[Possessor Herd]] | [[Purple Gummi Hound]] | [[Queen Bee]] ([[Queen Bee Ω|Ω]]) | [[Savage Spider]] | [[Trickmaster Ω]] | [[Trident Tail]] ([[Trident Tail Ω|Ω]], [[Blue Trident Tail|Blue]], [[Green Trident Tail|Green]], [[Red Trident Tail|Red]]) | [[Venomous Spider]] | [[White Returner]] | [[Wily Bandit]] | [[Wretched Witch]]</small>
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{| class="collapsible collapsed" width="100%" style="clear:both; background:#D8BFD8; border: 2px solid #4B0082; border-radius: 10px;"
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! align="center" style="background:#4B0082; border-radius: 7px;" width="100%" |<div style="margin-left:75px;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Heartless Bosses</span></div>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts (game)|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Darkside]] | [[Guard Armor]]/[[Opposite Armor]] | [[Trickmaster]] | [[Stealth Sneak]] | [[Pot Centipede]] | [[Parasite Cage]] | [[AntiSora]] | [[Behemoth]] | [[Kurt Zisa]] | [[Phantom]] | [[Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]] | [[World of Chaos]]<br>[[Red Armor]] | [[Sneak Army]] | [[Destroyed Behemoth]] | [[Arch Behemoth]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Guard Armor]] | [[Trickmaster]] | [[Parasite Cage]] | [[Darkside]] | [[Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts II|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts II</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Possessor|Possessor/Thresholder]] | [[Shadow Stalker and Dark Thorn|Shadow Stalker/Dark Thorn]] | [[Illuminator]] | [[Blizzard Lord and Volcanic Lord]] | [[Prison Keeper]] | [[Storm Rider]] | [[Grim Reaper]] | [[Groundshaker]]<br>[[Mushroom XIII]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Veil Lizard]] | [[Lurk Lizard]] | [[Guard Armor]] | [[Powered Armor]] | [[Darkside]] | [[Dark Follower]] | [[Antlion]] | [[Infernal Engine]] | [[Leechgrave]] | [[Crimson Prankster]] | [[Ruler of the Sky]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Dark Hide]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts Re:coded|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts Re:coded</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Darkside]] | [[Guard Armor]] | [[Trickmaster]] | [[Behemoth]] | [[Sora's Heartless]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]]</small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small><span style="color:#4B0082">'''''[[Kingdom Hearts χ|<span style="color:#4B0082">Kingdom Hearts χ</span>]]'''''</span></small>
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| align="center" style="text-align:center;vertical-align:top;font-size:smaller;"> | <small>[[Behemoth]] ([[Behemoth Ω|Ω]]) | [[Black Costume]] | [[Carp Submarine]] | [[Circus Fortress]] | [[Cruel Sweets]] | [[Darkside]] ([[Darkside Ω|Ω]]) | [[Egg Master]] | [[Fortress Crab]] ([[Fortress Crab Subspecies|Subspecies]]) | [[Guard Armor]] ([[Guard Armor Ω|Ω]]) | [[Hocus Pocus]] | [[Jack-in-the-box]] | [[Lion Dance Headliner]] | [[Malicious Reindeer]] | [[Noisy Wardrobe]] | [[Possessor Herd]] | [[Purple Gummi Hound]] | [[Queen Bee]] ([[Queen Bee Ω|Ω]]) | [[Savage Spider]] | [[Trickmaster]] ([[Trickmaster Ω|Ω]]) | [[Trident Tail]] ([[Trident Tail Ω|Ω]], [[Blue Trident Tail|Blue]], [[Green Trident Tail|Green]], [[Red Trident Tail|Red]]) | [[Venomous Spider]] | [[White Returner]] | [[Wily Bandit]] | [[Wretched Witch]]</small>
|}
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Revision as of 18:04, 6 June 2016

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It has been suggested that this page or section be moved to HeartlessBossDirectory.

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Ansem

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Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless) Appears twice in the templace, one that links to his Boss strategy and other that links to his character. Shouldn't it just appear only once linking to the Boss strategy? Is there a reason for him appearing twice or it's a mistake
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If I understand the MOS correctly, only the enemy page should have it.
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Then I understand the template should be removed from Xehanort's Heartless character page as well so it only appears in his Boss page?

Guard Armor

So when is the Guard Armor fought in 358? From the video walkthrough I've been watching, which goes up to Day 121, it doesn't seem to have appeared yet.Glorious CHAOS! 23:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Days

I've added in all fo the bosses from that mission list we have, in journal (not mission) order. Quite a few of them appear to simply be regular enemies, but the "boss" section of the journal does not include all of the clearly boss ones, like the Debris Flow super-boss or Dual Blade types. We'll have to re-evaluate this once we get the game and can go over it more clearly.Glorious CHAOS! 00:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the game has two different types of enemy missions that the guide considers bosses: "Destroy the Giant Heartless" and "Eliminate the Heartless Threat". The second type are the ones we traditionally consider bosses - the Leechgrave, the Guard Armor, etc. However, this does not include the Darkside and Dark Follower. The game also uses the cutscene and boss music for less than the guide lists, so if someone wanted to go through and catalogue every use of that song, we could do that. I would honestly suggest just using those who are "eliminate the Heartless threat", and we could maybe throw in the Darks out of logic.Glorious CHAOS! 02:53, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Question

Shouldn't we only list the first appearance of the Heartless Bosses, like we do with other nav templates? And if not, we should add the CoM bosses, and Ansem for DDD, as well as put the Final Mix bosses together with the regular ones. TheSilentHero 18:00, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I don't have a problem with a full list seeing as the navbar doesn't suffer from being too long. However, I get that it would be more consistent if we list it by first appearance, in which case I suggest that we possibly reorganise List of Bosses to list game by game rather than by boss type. And yes, those should be added. TheFifteenthMember 21:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Although I don't have a problem with the current list either, it would have a lot of double links. For example, the Darkside would be linked under KH, CoM, KHD, KHRec, and KHx. For the same reason, I think we should keep the List of Bosses page as it is. TheSilentHero 21:55, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I made two versions of the template, one where bosses are only listed for the first game they appear in, and one where they are listed under every game. Which version looks better? TheSilentHero 18:04, 6 June 2016 (UTC)