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...Yes... there is a picture on the article showing exactly that...{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}18:31, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
...Yes... there is a picture on the article showing exactly that...{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}18:31, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
== Just some small things of interest.. ==
I noticed that Xion is called a Sora replica numerous times in this
article and that's just kind of wrong. She is called a replica of the keyblade
wielder's nobody by Axel and her page even calls her a Roxas replica. So I
know it's not that important but I think it should be fixed.
Also nothing really big here but one of the Xehanort reports from BBS tell us
that Ventus was originally going to be the body Xehanort stole. For that
to happen he had to weaken Ven's heart by making him use darkness. But once
Ven opted to have the crap beat out of him by neoshadows instead of use his
darkness he realised Ven was a lost caused and changed his plan to use him
in the X-blade project.
I mean it's not important or anything but I think it make good triva.--[[Special:Contributions/24.7.239.218|24.7.239.218]] 04:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 04:31, 8 July 2010

Keyblade Difference

Has anyone else noticed that in the gameplay videos for Birth by Sleep, the teeth of Ven's keyblade now face the other way. I only brought this up because the article says he strikes with the toothed edge, which, granted, he does in the original Birth by Sleep video. Insignificant, I know, just something that's been bugging me. Adaxredael 23:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Ven left-handed?

It is very strange for someone state that Ven is left-handed, as seen in the secret teaser trailer the Gathering and secret teaser trailer Birth by Sleep. Especially when we have all seen that Ven holds his Keyblade in his right hand in Birth by Sleep game play. I don't even see how that little bit was even put on his page when there is even a picture of Ven holding his Keyblade in his right hand.. The teaser videos may lay down the ground work, but it is rather silly to reference them as factual. Were I am getting is that the little bit on Ven being a lefty should be modified.

Kthnxbai.

Ven seems to be ambidextrous, just like Roxas. Hyperwre_2.0 08:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

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a question

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Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.<
TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah.
I have a question.When did they say that in english that Jesse Mccartney is gonna voice Ven?(just wondering).


Is that even confirmed yet? If it's not it shouldn't be on the page...

The Wikipedia says he is going voice Ven, but I dunno. I hope so.--NinjaSheik 20:04, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I wouldnt mind...but has it been confirmed?! aah oh well. it believable i mean rly it just seems like all he has to do is make "The Roxas Voice" n and make it sound a lil younger. (i still havnt gotten over the fact that its Jesse Mccartney who voiced Roxas....but whatever) -Xero

Jesse McCartney just said the following on Twitter:
"Recording yet another Kingdom Hearts Game. All you Gamers eat your heart out! Man what a process tho. First recordin was in 2005 for game 1"
(Yes, I follow him on twitter, don't judge me T_T)
https://twitter.com/JesseMcCartney/status/6211849278
Anyway, since it's very unlikely that this would be for Roxas (They've already covered every moment of Roxas' existence from Birth to Reuinion) I think it's pretty safe to assume he's talking about Ven. I know it's not 100% confirmation, but its pretty strong evidence that Jesse is voicing Ventus. Which I'm excited about :D --Zephyrus11 20:57, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

YAHOO~! JESSE'S GOING TO VOICE FOR VEN!! YAY~!--NinjaSheik 21:18, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

The Armor

the part of the article about the armor needs to be edited. In the TGS 2009 trailer when he is riding his keyblade the armor is different colors, and recent scans show him wearing the same colored armor from the trailer. The cape has also been removed

Hmmmm...i was just wondering that. i HAVE seen Ven in 2 or 3 diffrnt armor colors. lets see...trailer one. scans...oh thats two. still. odd isnt it?

Ventus Awakening?

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Indeed it is.


Appearances

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HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us
TALK - It will keep us connected
Maggosh's most recent edit just got me thinking. Considering that it's not actually Ven, but rather Xigbar seeing Xion as Ven, does Days really count as an appearance?
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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png Cameo appearance maybe.

That doesn't make sense why make Ventus first appear in Days I mean his first appearce is The Gathering. I mean the first appearce means where they first appear I mean like Stich first appeared in Lilo and Stich movie not Kingdom Hearts II. So Ventus should be The Gathering not Days. --Cococrash11 03:29, December 22, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png We don't count The Gathering or the Birth by Sleep video because they are non-canon.

Then why is roxas 1st appearance deep dive :/ ?--Ataradesu 01:20, December 25, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

I'm guessing it was like that before we started fretting about this.


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Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ?
Vsymbol.png Shouldn't we change Roxas then ? putting him in COM ? it's the exact same thing, both appeared in secret movies, both appeared in spin off games briefly before having their own game where they were playable.


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

No, not CoM. KHII.
He did appear in CoM, actually appeared unlike Ven in Days who was basically just a hallucination on the part of another character.HarpieSiren 01:45, December 25, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

So we change Ven's to BbS, then?

That sounds like a plan. HarpieSiren 01:48, December 25, 2009 (UTC)


100px-Zane.png
maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Same with Terra and Aqua, too?

You do mean BBS the game, right? Just wanna be 100% sure.HarpieSiren 01:56, December 25, 2009 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Of course the game. :P

^^;; That's what I thought.HarpieSiren 01:57, December 25, 2009 (UTC)


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Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ?
Vsymbol.png Seems fair enough since "BBS video" is the climax of the game, just with amazing graphics, BBS game will show their true first appearance.
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KrytenKoro - You should have figured out whether bodies age without their hearts, Nomura.
TALK -
The game template includes times when the subject was just shown or mentioned. It doesn't have to be a physical appearance, or Xehanort wouldn't show up in KHII, for instance.


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Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ?
Vsymbol.png No, Xehanort is a flash back, that shows a physical appearance of him. It's not an hallucination where the character doesn't even act or talk.
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KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living."
TALK -
The nature of Xion is that that appearance was a flashback as well; plus, Xigbar mentions Ventus in the reports.

mode change

in the new jump festa 2010 trailer, the wingblade seem to develop from speed rave also, the swords (vertical rays of light) from roxas' final limit comes from speed rave, doesn't it

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NeutraVega Talk to me, you triple zero!. — "3, 22⁄7, 333⁄106, 355⁄113, 103993/33102...'."

*Cue echo SFX*

Hmm. Hmmmmmmm! HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!! Nah. Not really.

Xemnas?

OKay, how do we know that Xemnas sees Xion as Ven? I can't remember that being in Days. I remember Xigbar, but not Xemnas. Can someone clarify?--User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 20:57, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

In the Secret reports. Xigbar comments that both of them see her as Ven, and I think Xemnas might mention it too.--Lapis ofthe Night 21:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Xehanort'SPOILERS'

[1]Does this mean that Ventus used to be Master Xehanort's apprentice before he created Vanitas.--Masgrande 03:40, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. It seems that Xehanort was putting Ven in a life-or-death situation, hoping he'd call on dark power, but nope. So he went ahead and made Vanitas.—Urutapu 03:51, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia section needs some work

Several, if not all, of the entries in Ventus's trivia section aren't really trivia in-so-far as they are matter-of-fact statements made about the character as well as including unverified research and spoilers. Some of this information could be integrated into the article or disposed of.


Neverfate 17:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade Graveyard

Isn't Ventus's homeworld Keyblade Graveyard? I mean his awakeing's back ground is the Keyblade Graveyard. Beside Ventus just met Terra, and Aqua after Master Xehanort created Vanitas. So Land of Departure isn't Ventus's homeworld but the Keyblade Graveyard. --Cococrash11 07:55, January 23, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

I think when it says Homeworld, it means the world they primarily live in, not the one they were born in. In that sence Land of Departure is his home. Dellcath 20:31, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ven wasn't even born in the Keyblade Graveyard, I don't know where you're getting that. Just because it's on his Awakening, doesn't mean it's his homeworld. I think we can all agree that we don't know enough about the Awakening to make those assumptions.--Nitrous X 22:26, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Master Xehanort didn't mention when or where he met Ventus. Not even mentions in Xehanort Reports it only says he met him like destiny. MX train Ventus in Keyblade Graveyard. He didn't even visit Land of Departure or Destiny Island before when his heart was shattered by MX. Also the Princess of Hearts' Belle, Snow White, Cinderlla, Aurora, Sora shows background of the sceneary of the homeworld. If you still aren't convined atleast put LOD in other residence since you guys aren't even sure which homeworld he's on. --Cococrash11 01:43, March 31, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

Nomura said he was from Destiny Islands.Glorious CHAOS! 04:20, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
He did? Which interview was this? --Neumannz 03:00, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
The Ultimania, if I remember correctly. I'll try to find a link.
Nope, nevermind, I misread. It was him confirming Xehanort.Glorious CHAOS! 04:41, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Theme

Here's the link to Ventus' Theme[2]. Should it be included somewhere in the article? The Yoshiman 97 01:01, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree... but i myself don't know how :( P456 21:17, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to do it either... The Yoshiman 97 22:46, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Me neither you should ask KrytenKoro--Xabryn 22:50, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Is there a reason

behind Ven wielding his Keyblade in reverse? It's pretty unique and makes him the only character in the series, aside from Saïx, to fight in this manor.XYZ. 21:11, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves.

Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 12:50, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

20px-Pin_000.png I'm not really sure, but the makers of BBS might've wanted for the person to play as something different, not just a clone of Sora or Roxas.

"Our hearts are connected are my power!"

Xemnas
Infinity KHD.png Just what is that supposed to mean? Can someone fix the quote so that it makes at least some grammatical sense?
LapisScarab Xemnas (card).png Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 21:15, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Where are you looking? I see "Our connected hearts are my power" on the page. --Neumannz 21:18, April 23, 2010 (UTC) [facepalm] Ugh, fail on my part.--Lapis ofthe Night 21:20, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

If Vantias is the darkness from Ven's heart...

Does this not make Ventus' heart pure, and therefore, him a 'prince of heart'? Would be an interesting plot point later on, I think. Silvermistshadow 05:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Not exactly. The extraction of darkness from his heart seriously screwed up Ventus Kaihedgie 07:09, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I disagree that Ventus could be a prince of heart, as every princess of heart is born with a pure heart, whereas Ven has had the darkness take out of his heart and was not born with a pure heart. Also, this topic is more suitable for a forum rather then Ventus's discussion page. 07:25, May 2, 2010 (UTC) Danjam

Ven & Roxas

I know that Sora's and Ven's hearts are connected, but I don't know how that justifies Roxas looking(and most likely sounding) the exact same as Ven. How is this possible? In simple terms PLEASE. 169.139.1.20 15:40, May 27, 2010 (UTC)DialgaMan, the master of Time

In the Interview in the BBS Ultimania with Nomura it's mentioned, that Ventus' heart formed Roxas' body when Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade of People's Heart. So the heart was with Roxas all the time and that's why he looks almost as Ventus and has feelings even though he is a Nobody. ----ShardofTruth 15:50, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a sec

--74.240.76.53 16:39, June 17, 2010 (UTC)hold up one minute,IF roxas had vens heart and sora had his own heart,what the FRIG was the point of them joining again?was it because of soras memories?this confuses me greatly.......I mean if roxas had a heart even though he was a nobody wouldnt he notice this?well maybe not since he really wouldnt know how to notice.....,but still this theory negates the need for them to be in one body..... --LostTranslations74.240.76.53 16:39, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Jesse McCartney

Last time I checked, Ven's voice actor was going to be Jesse McCartney but now it is "to be announced?" What disproved Jesse McCartney to be Ven's voice actor? I thought he was confirmed. SeanWheeler 01:51, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

He never said who he was voicing, just that he'd finished the voicework. People just made an assumption and said it was so. - EternalNothingnessXIII 01:57, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds a lot like his voice in the recent Gameplay trailers. --Lordrogersmith6485 05:01, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
"He sounds like him" is in no way a valid source. We aren't putting McCartney as the VA until there's an explicit, written statement confirming him to be voicing Ventus. It's really just a formality, but it's one we're maintaining.LapisLazuliScarab05:51, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Still wondering

Didn't Nomura say in an interview that there was a reason behind Ventus' unique way of holding his Keyblade? And that the reason would be explained in BbS? Did that ever happen?--ΧƳƵach. 22:44, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fever pitch and the lock

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Erry - Let me think about it.
TALK - Scherzo Di Notte ~ {{{time}}}
So I was wondering, this page is locked because of the extreme editing of adding Jesse as voice actor?

Also, in the Ven Gameplay video on the SE E3 '10 website, it shows 'Fever Pitch' for Ven instead of Speed Rave, so if someone could add that in.

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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png Yes, that's why it's locked. We know that it's basically confirmed, but as a formality we're keeping it as N/A until an official statement is released. Unfortunately, so many people decided not to respect that formality that we had to lock the page.

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...Yes... there is a picture on the article showing exactly that...LapisLazuliScarab18:31, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Just some small things of interest..

I noticed that Xion is called a Sora replica numerous times in this article and that's just kind of wrong. She is called a replica of the keyblade wielder's nobody by Axel and her page even calls her a Roxas replica. So I know it's not that important but I think it should be fixed.

Also nothing really big here but one of the Xehanort reports from BBS tell us that Ventus was originally going to be the body Xehanort stole. For that to happen he had to weaken Ven's heart by making him use darkness. But once Ven opted to have the crap beat out of him by neoshadows instead of use his darkness he realised Ven was a lost caused and changed his plan to use him in the X-blade project.

I mean it's not important or anything but I think it make good triva.--24.7.239.218 04:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)