Talk:Dark Figure

Ability section

Should it have an ability section? After all he can disconnect from Xehanort's body and attack for itself--Xabryn 20:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

If we haven't gotten an official name from BBS, then I don't think we should be calling it "Guardian". Furthermore, if we can definitely prove that World of Chaos is the guardian, we should just merge the two articles.

However, the end of Kingdom Hearts clearly has the World of Chaos exploding, so it would make it odd that Riku and Ansem resummon the thing in the next three games.Glorious CHAOS! 22:21, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

True, but we have enough evidence on the contrary that it's the "Guardian." If more than half its appearances call it so... True, that is a tad akward, but it's the same Guardian over and over again. You could say its Re:CoM and CoM versions are memory-based considering Ansem was defeated and it was Riku's memories given form that were troubling him. The Guardian, you could say, was merely a side-effect of the Riku-Ansem ordeal, and as for the World of Chaos, it's as much a part of it AND an original character as Xehanort's Heartless is. I see no sense in such a merge, while at the same time, I do. Now I'm confused... - EternalNothingnessXIII 22:27, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

A few stuff on this....

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. So, I have a couple things I'd like to bring up. First off, in the BBS boss battle against this guy, if you look carefully when the Guardian vanishes to let Xehanort fight with the keyblade, the Guardian sort of becomes the keyblade. Is this noteworthy? Also, I had always thought that the Guardian was the actual Heartless of Xehanort, while the body we see in front of it is Riku's body changed by the darkness. This theory can be backed up with the keyblade thing in BBS: the guardian could be the darkness of Xehanort taking shape. Thoughts?

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 10:49, January 16, 2010 (UTC) It more like "Just fades out of the battle" and appears behind him. And no, no evidence states that the Guardian is a Heartless, Unversed, Nobody, whatever. Xehanort couldn't just scream like a maniac and then have a random Heartless appear behind him. The "body in front of it" is the true Heartless, Xehanort himself.

Regardless of what the Guardian is, it should be mentioned that Terranort is not able to summon it until turning Master Xehanort's Keyblade onto himself and releasing one of the hearts he was harboring within. But it really would make sense for the Guardian to be the Heartless of Master Xehanort. Terranort uses Master Xehanort's Keyblade for two reasons:

1. Terra's armor, the Lingering Sentiment, retains Terra's emotions and Keyblade.

2. Master Xehanort's heart is controlling Terra's body, thus Terranort wields Master Xehanort's Keyblade.

With this in mind, when Terranort turns Master Xehanort's Keyblade onto himself, a heart is very clearly released, Master Xehanort's Keyblade disappears and the Guardian emerges from the Darkness. Once Terranort and the Guardian are defeated, the Guardian begins to fade back into the Darkness, but drags Terra with it. Then Aqua chases them into the dark and uses her Keyblade and armor to send Terra back to the Realm of Light. From there Terra has forgotten his memories and begins a new life as 'Xehanort.' This also would explain why Xehanort can no longer summon a Keyblade:

1. Terra's Keyblade belongs to the Lingering Sentiment.

2. Master Xehanort has become a Heartless.

3. Master Aqua now uses Master Eraqus' Keyblade, whose heart resides within Xehanort.

The last part is what would become of the Guardian, if it truly is Master Xehanort's Heartless. Because Terra's heart was so open to dark influences and Pureblood Heartless are the darkness found within hearts brought to life, perhaps the Guardian slithered back into Terra's body and then into his heart. Here it would sync with the Darkness within Terra's heart so when Xehanort would become a Heartless, the Heartless would be Terra and Master Xehanort's.XYZ. 04:26, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Demonic Saint - Then go talk to a wall... TALK - I dreamt I was a moron - 03:19, March 4, 2010 (UTC) It's all speculation so it doesn't belong to the page EDIT:Also, Sign your comments.

Yeah, there is some speculation, but what we know to be true is that Terranort used Master Xehanort's Keyblade to release a heart from Terra's body, thus causing Xehanort's Keyblade to disappear and the Guardian materialized. This is fact and should be stated on the page.XYZ. 04:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

But it isn't revealed, which heart he released, is it?

Game Template

Is the template above the page supposed to be in the chronological order of the story or the order in which the games were release?Masgrande 05:19, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 21:35, August 2, 2010 (UTC) I notice that the picture of the Guardian as part of the World of Chaos is a model from the game, not an official image. Can anyone upload a better image?

Nope.Glorious CHAOS! 21:43, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 21:44, August 4, 2010 (UTC) "Nope" meaning nobody can upload a better image?

maggosh ...the flint is struck. — "Maybe I should punish you after all." "Come on! Show a little backbone!" "Nope" meaning no better official image exists.

Similarities in attacks?

Shouldn't it be safe to say that the two energy balls the Guardian "throws" across the floor at you and coming up from the ground multiple times creating small shockwaves appear in all of BBS, KH1, and both versions of KH:COM? I am SERIOUSLY seeing similarities with these two attacks in all three "incarnations" of the Guardian, regardless of who uses it. Does anyone agree with me? Zack M.173.218.30.240 23:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Check the opening paragraph of the "Abilities" section. Chitalian8 23:10, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not only attacks, it is also slightly similar to Darkside. It has the heart-hole in it, and looks like a tinier, upgraded version of it. Keyblade0

Why is it referred to as...

A symbiote? A) That is a Spiderman Universe Term B) It is used in the wrong context anyways... ( So can I go and change it? I would right now but I don't know what to call it. Hige unari 18:21, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's a real term. So, no. Not unless you can find a more appropriate term. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 18:36, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Heartless or not?

Is there any sure evidence whether or not the Guardian is a Heartless, or just a creature of Darkness?

Because before BBS was released, this thing was called a Heartless, and it does resemble Neoshadows an awful lot, not to mention we do know that Pureblood Heartless existed before Xehanort became Ansem. Where did the idea come from that the Guardian was NOT a Heartless?

I'm just asking out of curiosity. --88.195.19.59 22:27, 4 May 2012 (UTC)