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{{KrytenKoro|ScatheMote, I have seen at least two comments in our forums from people who said they made an account on wikia just to complain about the skin. The new sites could very well have Oasis as well, for those who want it, they just won't be mandatory. A big part of this is not just the negative effects of the skin (such as on [[Dimension Link]]), but also wikia's consistent attitude of forcing all the wikis to accommodate ''their'' whims, rather than allowing us the freedom to choose.}}
{{KrytenKoro|ScatheMote, I have seen at least two comments in our forums from people who said they made an account on wikia just to complain about the skin. The new sites could very well have Oasis as well, for those who want it, they just won't be mandatory. A big part of this is not just the negative effects of the skin (such as on [[Dimension Link]]), but also wikia's consistent attitude of forcing all the wikis to accommodate ''their'' whims, rather than allowing us the freedom to choose.}}
[[w:c:square]]. Just want to add the "Square Enix" wiki to your attention. The thing that, in a sense, parents both FFWiki and KHWiki. [[Special:Contributions/80.42.254.253|80.42.254.253]] 16:33, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
[[w:c:square]]. Just want to add the "Square Enix" wiki to your attention. The thing that, in a sense, parents both FFWiki and KHWiki. [[Special:Contributions/80.42.254.253|80.42.254.253]] 16:33, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
:Hello Everyone. My name is Budd0011 here on Wikia, and Tacopill on NIWA. I'm the original poster of the thread SilverCrono linked to above. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 16:54, November 7, 2010 (UTC).

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Forums: Index > The World that Never was > Square Enix Portal
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 08:26, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png I originally posted this on the active forum, but certain other discussions and matters drew attention away from. It is incredibly important that the community becomes aware of this possibility for our wiki, since it has now drawn the attention, interest, and support of three wikis: this one, the FFWiki, and Chronopedia. For the sake of having little else to say, I'm going to repost my message pertaining to the forming of a Square Enix portal, with a few revisions:

I would like to open an idea to the community of KHWiki, as well as to several other wikis. I have spoken to KrytenKoro and Azul81677 about this matter, and the FFWiki admins also have supported the idea, from those that I have spoken to. We seem to understand that NIWA is a large portal for Nintendo-based wikis. I propose the idea of forming a portal for Square Enix wikis, using the MediaWiki software. Essentially, we are recreating NIWA for a different type of gaming wiki. Of course, the two main wikis would be KHWiki and FFWiki, though we could also invite Chronopedia, Dragon Quest Wiki, and even KHWiki Francophone and Espanol. By doing this, all of the connected wikis can grow from each other. We will still all be separate wikis in every respect, but when one wiki gain more contributors or readers, those people are bound to trickle to the other wikis as well. Chronopedia has already expressed a desire to join this.

This would involve private hosting, possibly of multiple wikis, and we would have to contact NIWA to figure out how they set up their portal. However, we have on multiple occasions shown that the entire community has the potential to financially support the wiki and its off-wiki links (ex: users in this thread offering to pay hosting fees and the money that our community was able to donate to Adola's bot servers for the IRC). Honestly, the communities of the main (and even some minor) Square-Enix wikis are akin to each other, since several editors edit more than one of these wikis. Our wikis are already joined by editors (and in many cases, templates and interwiki content and linking), so we would just be building on that connection.

This should also get us more views and readers than moving to a lesser known wikifarm. Seriously, Wikia is huge, leaving it is going to cost us an enormous amount of our readers. To gain them back, we're going to have to stay as well known as we can. If Wikii is the small service provider it looks to be, that may not be our best option.


Please leave comments below. Personally, I think this is a better moving plan than to be hosted by Wikii. We can be sure this will never happen again, we will be better known independently than as a part of a small wikifarm, and we can join the many already connected wikis toward a mutual goal: to create the greatest collection of Square Enix wikis, to be better than any strategy guide, walkthrough, or other relative information base.

Comments from members of other Square Enix wikis, such as the Final Fantasy Wiki and Chronopedia, are also very welcome.


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OavatosDK --- 08:28, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
I did not read what was written.

BUT I APPROVE!


Because DTN says I should be serious: I like the idea. I suggested it early on when the Oasis crysis began. NIWA actually talked about making an FF section for their wikis.

Either way, I believe this way is best. I don't care for official business so others can work the whole thing out.


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SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. "Oh, you mean I was supposed to lie."

"Lea, we don't have time for this." — 08:30, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

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About the other wikis.. I think this is the best moving idea.


Also, NIWA expressed interest in this, too. See this.

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Hexrezi 32px-Symbol_of_Mind.png NO 1 C4NT S33 YOU DUMB4SS

BL1ND JUST1C3: 1NV3S1G4T1ON !! — 08:32, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Your supreme overlord Hexedy approves of this. Ore wo dare da to omotte yagaru!


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I approve!
17master "ORLY NAO?" — 08:59, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

While I do not speak for the majority of the Final Fantasy Wiki, I, as a staff member there, am opposed to moving away from Wikia. I might get a lot of flack for saying this, but Oasis isn't that terrible for the common viewer. There's code floating around that increases the size of the text, and really that's the only major bad change of Oasis. They've fixed most of the annoying bugs that were around, and the majority of new anons would not know there was ever an alternative. Just as many people came into Wikia with Monaco (I came in around the end of Quartz, which was a much worse skin), many people will see Oasis as the only skin, and when that is inevitably abandoned, people will complain.

The only difference between hosting and here is that the anons see Oasis. Users will still use Monobook (unless you manage to get the source code for Monaco), there will probably still be adds to support hosting costs. I don't hear or see any anons complaining about Oasis; it is merely the users who are accustomed to the old and can't simply take this as any other Wikia addition: simply move on. Wikia will always be changing things that should not be fixed, and that's an inevitable truth, but should we leave for it? I doubt it. ScatheMote 13:59, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Some of us look forward to accommodating to Wikia, and is considering ideas. You're welcome to add to of what remains. BLUER一番 14:13, November 7, 2010 (UTC)


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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons. — 14:51, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png Regardless of how horrible, or how great, you think the new skin is, I believe this is still the better option. Being free of Wikia could do us some good. We would be independent, free to think on our own, not bound by what Wikia wants us to be. We can make decisions for ourselves, and we'll have much more control. I support this idea. Good work DTN. ^_^
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 14:58, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
I also fully support this idea. It seems like an obvious choice--well, despite the fact that almost nobody had thought of it on their own...
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ScatheMote, I have seen at least two comments in our forums from people who said they made an account on wikia just to complain about the skin. The new sites could very well have Oasis as well, for those who want it, they just won't be mandatory. A big part of this is not just the negative effects of the skin (such as on Dimension Link), but also wikia's consistent attitude of forcing all the wikis to accommodate their whims, rather than allowing us the freedom to choose.

w:c:square. Just want to add the "Square Enix" wiki to your attention. The thing that, in a sense, parents both FFWiki and KHWiki. 80.42.254.253 16:33, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hello Everyone. My name is Budd0011 here on Wikia, and Tacopill on NIWA. I'm the original poster of the thread SilverCrono linked to above. Bud0011 16:54, November 7, 2010 (UTC).