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{{OotL|text= If i recall from the movie correctly the mirror is neutral not a villian he answers whoever asks him a question he's not on one side or another}}
{{OotL|text= If i recall from the movie correctly the mirror is neutral not a villian he answers whoever asks him a question he's not on one side or another}}
{{unbirthtalk|text=We don't know wich role it'll have in the game, maybe it'll show loyalty to the evil queen.}}
{{unbirthtalk|text=We don't know wich role it'll have in the game, maybe it'll show loyalty to the evil queen.}}
{{NitrousX|xmastext=Woah, Jack Skellington mania. Well, considering he serves the evil queen (the Antagonist of Dwarf Woodlands) and the fact that he fights at least 2 out of the 3 trio of BBS Keybearers, I'm guessing that he is an Antagonist.}}


== Name ==
== Name ==
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{{Ghostboy3000|time=21:09, September 19, 2009 (UTC)|text= I thoguht that is what the battle is called?}}
{{Ghostboy3000|time=21:09, September 19, 2009 (UTC)|text= I thoguht that is what the battle is called?}}
{{EO|time=21:12, September 19, 2009 (UTC)|text=It is the Magic Mirror. What the mirror is in the story, is a soul trapped in the mirror. The soul of a man...but there is no mention whatsoever of this name.}}
{{EO|time=21:12, September 19, 2009 (UTC)|text=It is the Magic Mirror. What the mirror is in the story, is a soul trapped in the mirror. The soul of a man...but there is no mention whatsoever of this name.}}
== Spirit of the Magic Mirror ==
{{EO|time=16:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)|shocked=GameTrailers's review on ''Birth by Sleep'' reveals that the game calls this the '''Spirit of the Magic Mirror''', referring to the face inside while the article refers to the mirror as a whole. This is exactly what the "character" part of the mirror is, the face inside, the captured soul of a man forced to do the Queen's bidding. Should we not move the article to "Spirit of the Magic Mirror", since that's the character, or could we at least move the boss article, since that's who you fight? Remember, you're attacking a face that spits fireballs, not smashing glass because you're attacking a random mirror...}}
{{Maggosh|flint=Moving just the boss page sounds good to me.}}
{{EO|time=16:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=I agree.}}
{{EO|time=20:55, September 7, 2010 (UTC)|shocked=So what are we to do about this? BBS is out now, so I'd really like to take care of this issue before I become obsessed and inactive while playing it. I thought we'd reach a verdict by now, with more than one opinion other than mine. But nothing's happened. If it's okay, I'll do one of the following:
*Move this page and the boss page to "Spirit of the Magic Mirror" (add boss suffix for boss page)
*Move only the boss page
*Move neither
Please decide on one of these.}}
{{Maggosh|nathan=I said it before; move only the Boss page.}}
== English Version ==
In the Japanese version,the Queen's mounting rage caused the mirror to be possessed by the darkness, sucking Terra in and fighting him. But in the English version, the Queen threw a potion at the mirror, which made him suck Terra into the mirror. How should we put this in the article?--[[Special:Contributions/65.126.116.139|65.126.116.139]] 21:37, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Plot that differs between the two should be presented in italics, I guess, though this is more of a contradiction than a scene addition.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:07, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
==what==
i was on unversed and looked at unversed enemys and it said that it was an unversed boss i don't get it[[Special:Contributions/65.32.75.73|65.32.75.73]] 23:11, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
:See [[Game talk:Magic Mirror]]. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 23:18, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
::In the Japanese version of BBSFM, it was changed to the potion scene, so I guess that would be the canon scene. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 21:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
== Unversed? ==
Okay, there's been a bit of a confusion over whether or not the Magic Mirror is an Unversed or a "Somebody". We see no sign of an Unversed insignia or qualities/coloration that would denote it as such. ''However'', the following quote is from Aqua's story report:
"''The Queen had used her potions to transform the Spirit of the Mirror into an Unversed of the Magic Mirror.''"
However, the Magic Mirror doesn't fade into darkness like any other Unversed would after being defeated, as shown by its presence in Aqua's story after being defeated by Terra earlier. Does this mean that the Magic Mirror is a "Somebody", but is temporarily an Unversed while being fought? I'm very confused by this, but if so, then this article should be classified as "Somebody", and the boss article should be categorized as an Unversed. Please leave your input. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 20:57, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
{{ST|text=It was a somebody, then it was an unversed, than a somebody again. and in case you didn't notice, DTN, the page ''is'' categorized as both a somebody and unversed. the only reason the boss page is not is because you only fight it as an unversed}}
And, on this subject, the trivia should be removed.  Only the spirit is fought as an Unversed, not the Mirror itself.  The trivia piece should be added to the spirit page, if no where else.  {{The Inexistentsig}}
:Okay, the Spirit is fought as an Unversed. But there's no explanation as to ''how'' or ''why'' it became an Unversed though, is there? Also, the reports mention nothing about the Spirit's becoming Unversed. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="dodgerblue">Trois</font>]][[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="darkslateblue">nyx</font>]]''' 20:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:18, 9 May 2016

Villain?[edit]

DaysJack.png
Orpheus of the Lyre Let's Talk ! — Prepare to scream !

Sally, why didn't I listen to you?

If i recall from the movie correctly the mirror is neutral not a villian he answers whoever asks him a question he's not on one side or another
DaysJack.png
Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

We don't know wich role it'll have in the game, maybe it'll show loyalty to the evil queen.
Holiday_nitrousx.png
Nitrous X Merry Christmas! — I have identified the scent. It is...Christmas!

"When did that happen? You were always terrified of Santa before-"

Woah, Jack Skellington mania. Well, considering he serves the evil queen (the Antagonist of Dwarf Woodlands) and the fact that he fights at least 2 out of the 3 trio of BBS Keybearers, I'm guessing that he is an Antagonist.

Name[edit]

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Kingdom Hearts Fan
TALK - It was the natural thing to do...
if i remember correctly in a latest vjump scan he is called man in the mirror?
Lots-O-HugginBearHappy.jpg
LotsoBearLover - Kingdom Key KHD.pngWelcome to sunnyside!
TALK - You've got a playdate with destiny!"
Naminé's Notebook KHII.png I thoguht that is what the battle is called?

TerraTalk1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 21:12, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngIt is the Magic Mirror. What the mirror is in the story, is a soul trapped in the mirror. The soul of a man...but there is no mention whatsoever of this name.

Spirit of the Magic Mirror[edit]

TerraShocked-1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 16:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png GameTrailers's review on Birth by Sleep reveals that the game calls this the Spirit of the Magic Mirror, referring to the face inside while the article refers to the mirror as a whole. This is exactly what the "character" part of the mirror is, the face inside, the captured soul of a man forced to do the Queen's bidding. Should we not move the article to "Spirit of the Magic Mirror", since that's the character, or could we at least move the boss article, since that's who you fight? Remember, you're attacking a face that spits fireballs, not smashing glass because you're attacking a random mirror...
FlintAngryTalk.png
maggosh ...the flint is struck. "Maybe I should punish you after all."

"Come on! Show a little backbone!"

Moving just the boss page sounds good to me.

TerraTalk1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 16:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngI agree.

TerraShocked-1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 20:55, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png So what are we to do about this? BBS is out now, so I'd really like to take care of this issue before I become obsessed and inactive while playing it. I thought we'd reach a verdict by now, with more than one opinion other than mine. But nothing's happened. If it's okay, I'll do one of the following:
  • Move this page and the boss page to "Spirit of the Magic Mirror" (add boss suffix for boss page)
  • Move only the boss page
  • Move neither

Please decide on one of these.

NathanielTalkMug.png
maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

I said it before; move only the Boss page.

English Version[edit]

In the Japanese version,the Queen's mounting rage caused the mirror to be possessed by the darkness, sucking Terra in and fighting him. But in the English version, the Queen threw a potion at the mirror, which made him suck Terra into the mirror. How should we put this in the article?--65.126.116.139 21:37, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Plot that differs between the two should be presented in italics, I guess, though this is more of a contradiction than a scene addition.Glorious CHAOS! 21:07, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

what[edit]

i was on unversed and looked at unversed enemys and it said that it was an unversed boss i don't get it65.32.75.73 23:11, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

See Game talk:Magic Mirror. maggosh 23:18, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
In the Japanese version of BBSFM, it was changed to the potion scene, so I guess that would be the canon scene. --Elfdemon (talk) 21:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Unversed?[edit]

Okay, there's been a bit of a confusion over whether or not the Magic Mirror is an Unversed or a "Somebody". We see no sign of an Unversed insignia or qualities/coloration that would denote it as such. However, the following quote is from Aqua's story report:

"The Queen had used her potions to transform the Spirit of the Mirror into an Unversed of the Magic Mirror."

However, the Magic Mirror doesn't fade into darkness like any other Unversed would after being defeated, as shown by its presence in Aqua's story after being defeated by Terra earlier. Does this mean that the Magic Mirror is a "Somebody", but is temporarily an Unversed while being fought? I'm very confused by this, but if so, then this article should be classified as "Somebody", and the boss article should be categorized as an Unversed. Please leave your input. --DTN Room Core.png 20:57, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


Vanitas Awakening (Art) KHBBS.png
ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Vanitas Sprite KHBBS.pngIt was a somebody, then it was an unversed, than a somebody again. and in case you didn't notice, DTN, the page is categorized as both a somebody and unversed. the only reason the boss page is not is because you only fight it as an unversed


And, on this subject, the trivia should be removed. Only the spirit is fought as an Unversed, not the Mirror itself. The trivia piece should be added to the spirit page, if no where else. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON.

Okay, the Spirit is fought as an Unversed. But there's no explanation as to how or why it became an Unversed though, is there? Also, the reports mention nothing about the Spirit's becoming Unversed. Troisnyx 20:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)