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Bluer says at 03:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Going straight to the point, kupo, I would like to propose some small changes to the Main Page design. I'm well aware a discussion to change the wiki's layout is currently taking place, kupo.

So in conjunction, I would like to propose some navigation based on category, kupo, using image boxes, that I've seen being implemented very nicely in some Wikias, kupo. These boxes are made based on the main categories.

Basically what it will amount to is seen below, kupo:

That's an example as I've used in the other wiki I work with, kupo. You can see it in its entirety here, kupo.

What do you think? Please comment

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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!!HeartOfOblivion 03:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png That's cool. I think we should use it.


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Marexl それは...
I like it.
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Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds
TALK - 03:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I like it, but in it's entirety on the MT wiki, it runs into the featured article.
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Bluer says at 04:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Probably because of the screen resolution,
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Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds
TALK - {{{time}}}
Hmm, I forget I'm using a smaller screen.
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Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!!
TALK - 14:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I like it as well, can't see the image up there, but the MT wiki looks pretty with teh little cionz
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
That's one of those "so simple it's brilliant" suggestions, Bluer. I like it very much; I've never been fond of the massive text box at the top of the main page.

I'd be glad to help with images if we get to that point, but I'll leave the coding to the masters.

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Bluer says at 02:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
To make sure I have the community's consent before doing this, kupo, I would like to hear everyone's opinions on two matters:
  • Which category should has the boxes, kupo, and,
  • Which image should be used to represent the category, kupo,

I hope everyone can chip in and tell me your opinions, kupo, and we can start this as soon as a consensus is reached. Have fun deciding,


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Ultima - Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test.
Hey, here's an idea. Why don't we try to make all the images, the cards from COM?
-09:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along!

Keyblade-Blk.png Brilliant! I love the idea of using cards, Ultima.
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 19:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png I agree, great idea :D

so, it'd look something like this (but with more categories) ?


Contents
Key of Guidance (card).png
Goofy (card).png
Key of Beginnings (card).png
Key to Truth (card).png
Potion (card).png
Kingdom Key (card).png
Random Joker (card).png
Shadow (card).png
Games Characters Worlds Enemies Items Abilities Images Templates
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 19:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png I just used the categories from the 'Main Categories' section of the 'Gummi Ship' on the main page, but I suggest that we use more :P (so we get two lines (If we get 3 more categories, we can do 5 in each row, if 5 more, then 6 in each row, etc.))

I kept the border since we currently have it on all of the boxes on the main page.

so, how is this draft of mine ?

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Bluer says at 01:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Great, kupo! Perhaps you should concentrate on content, kupo. What about Category:Music or Category:Songs? I feel Category:Template isn't necessary for public viewing,
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 01:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png There's also Category:Gummi and Category:Mini-games.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Dude. That is sweet. Great idea, Ultima, and nice execution, Xiggie! I think Music and Mini-games would work; do Gummi Ships stand out too much to count as a mini-game, though? Also, snagging an idea from MT's wiki, what about a Merchandise section?
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 07:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png I think that we could use the gummi category.

hmm...Do we have a Merchandise category/page ? I know that we have the trading card game, and the figurines (no idea what the link is)...

So if we use what we've got here, we have 11 categories (if I don't count the Template Category)

  • Games
  • Characters
  • Worlds
  • Enemies
  • Items
  • Abilities
  • Images
  • Songs
  • Gummi
  • Mini-Games
  • Merchandise
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Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!!
TALK - Happy b-day Nikola Tesla! 14:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Does music count as merchandise? Just wondering...
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 15:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png Well, the Kingdom Hearts Soundtrack Discs are merchandise, but not the music itself...

So, it the Merchandise Category, we have:

yay...

I was also wandering, can't we include the Kingdom Hearts Manga?

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KrytenKoro - Most bears were content to live their lives, mauling and eating one, maybe two humans at most. "Mass-murder," as the bears always said, "is for the sharks." But not Barry. Barry was different. He knew that one day, he would kill ALL of the humans. This is the inspiring, tear-jerking story of one bear and the dream he dared to dream.
TALK - 21:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Kingdom Hearts consists of the games, the manga, the card game, the music, and merchandise.

Example: [1]

So, I would suggest

  • Games (including mini-games and stuff like vcast, possibly gameplay elements such as Sleights, Reaction Commands, Abilities)
  • Manga
  • Cards
  • Music
  • Toys/Merchandise

We also need a "Help" link, possibly linking to an admin's talk page, a noticeboard for problems (do we have one of those?), or something similar.

Once we have that, a good second row for sub-categories would be:

  • Characters
  • Enemies
  • Items (including equipment)
  • Worlds (possibly + gummi)
  • Gummi (if not with worlds)
  • Mythology/Misc. (Light, Heart, Realms, etc.)

Then, a good third row would be wiki material, if we really need it (it might work best to be directed to from within the "Help" section)

  • Forum
  • Images (links to "Special:Images as Gallery")
  • Categories (links to "Special: All Categories")

Templates would not be recommended.

So, to sum up, here's what I would suggest:

  • Games - DiZ
  • Manga - Zexion
  • Cards - Luxord
  • Music - Demyx
  • Toys/Merchandise - Xion

new line

  • Mythology - Heartless Emblem
  • Worlds - Destiny Islands or Twilight Town
  • Gummi - Highwind/Excalibur
  • Characters - Sora
  • Enemies - Dusk or Shadow
  • Items - Keyblade

new line (optional)

  • User signup? - rip of Hollow Bastion Restoration Committee Membership Card
  • Userboxes - ??? That crown mark used in the Journal, I guess
  • Forum - can we get a rip of the job boards from Twilight Town? If not, then I guess the Heart version of Kingdom Hearts?
  • Images - if we can get a rip of the "----" from Roxas's part of KH2
  • Categories - rip of Jiminy's Journal
  • Help - possibly generic "?", preferably Mickey
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 22:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png So... we won't use CoM cards in the last line?

but anyway, here's my second draft then:

Contents
Key of Guidance (card).png
Cloud (card).png
Roulette Room (card).png
Crescendo (card).png
Megalixir (card).png
Games Manga Cards Music Merchandise
Key of Beginnings (card).png
Ether (card).png
Goofy (card).png
Shadow (card).png
Potion (card).png
Worlds Gummi Characters Enemies Items
Moogle Room (card).png
Random Joker (card).png
Mingling Worlds (card).png
Forums Images Categories
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 22:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png I used all of the categories Kryten listed (except Mythology and the last line stuff). and since we were thinking of using CoM cards, I used them...
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Bluer says at 07:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Everything done, kupo? Okay, as a result, here we go:
  • I've omitted Forum and Categories because it's mostly not something Content related, kupo. Aside from that, Forums are linked to our sidebars, kupo
  • I've replaced Categories with Abilities, kupo. I also considered putting six by two, kupo. The final designs are already in place, kupo.

If there are problems please notify, kupo, and I'd say this is a triumph. Huge success,

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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 08:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png Right-on :D

But now I noticed that some of the images are slightly smaller, due to additional white pixels in the images. I'll start cropping these images right away.

EDIT: All done :D

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KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy."
TALK -
(No, I was suggesting using actual thumbnails, not cards.) Well, that's an Ether, not a Gummi Block, so that's a problem, and Random Joker would work better for the "Cards", and a World Card (Hollow Bastion?) for Worlds. And we really do need a directory to the various mythology articles, as they form the background of the series, and would be extremely important for anyone trying to figure out what's going on - our uploaded images...not so important.

I would really suggest just including "Abilities" (like Sleights, Gears, Tech Points, and Synthesis) in a gameplay mechanics category reachable from the game link. On it's own, it's not nearly as important as the other links.

Cards should point to the TCG, not to Chain of Memories.

We absolutely must have a "Help category, though. Really, it's the most important out of any of these (which honestly need to be duplicated in the nav-bar to the right) So, I would suggest folding Abilities into "Category:Gameplay", a sub-category of "Games", and replacing it with Help, then replacing Images with Mythology.

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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 17:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png I think that the TCG cards are not right for this... as they are big, and have more on them that the images (some text), and it's the image that we're using. Sure, they can be cropped..

About the either, there was no gummi card, so I just... used something square.

Oh, and if we are gonna use these cards, we can't use the world cards, since they are much bigger! we must keep to the... "style"...

OK, I agree that changing "Abilities" to "Gameplay" would be...eh... wise :P
And "Help" should definitely be included! but why not include images? I don't get that...

But we can't link to articles/categories that doesn't exist yet... so until a mythology category (or something) is created... we can't use it, can we? (well, unless we just make a new section that gives links to all of those articles (is that what you meant by "a mythology directory" ?))

p.s. I know that you were suggesting actual thumbnails, Kryten, but since they are not present, we can't use them :P
but we might wanna try that out, I could start taking some screenshots and cropping them if we want to give it a try...
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KrytenKoro - "It's always best when the other chap is willing to die for his beliefs; you both have the same goal in mind."
TALK -
erg...no, "Cards" should point not to the Chain of Memories article, but to the Cards article. That's why I originally suggested them as the "parts of the franchise".

"Images" is basically useless as a information source. It's just a lot of images, none of which are terribly informative. We shouldn't have it unless we're doing other, more important wiki-maintenance links.

Then create a quick Mythology category. We need something that points to: Heartless, Nobody, Unbirth, Keyhole, Light, Darkness, Nothingness. The stuff that explains the series.

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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 08:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png Oh, boy do I feel silly :P

But the cards already do link to the "Cards article".

OK, Images out, and Mythology in, ya?

would you like to create that there Mythology category, Kryten?

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship.
TerraCharm.pngI've watched this forum for quite some time, and the new Main Page looks great. But not to complain, but shouldn't the Worlds section utilize a World Card as an image? Just seems fitting. Sorry if this was brought up already.
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 12:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png If we have a CoM World card in there... it won't look good! just see for yourself:
Gummi Ship   (view all pages)
Goofy (card).png
Shadow (card).png
Hollow Bastion (Card) KHRECOM.png
Random Joker (card).png
Characters Enemies Worlds Images
Ether (card).png
Moogle Room (card).png
Potion (card).png
Roulette Room (card).png
Gummi Abilities Items Cards
Key of Guidance (card).png
Cloud (card).png
Crescendo (card).png
Megalixir (card).png
Games Manga Music Merchandise
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 12:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png It sure fits in alright, huh? *sarcasm*

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 12:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
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KrytenKoro - "Because I knew something he didn't. I knew that I was lying. Seriously, sir. 'No silicon heaven'? Where would all of the calculators go?"
TALK -
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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 19:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png Eh, OK... just change it...
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Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!!
TALK - 08:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed... and I propose a rearengement (sp? it's 3:00 am, have sum mercy XD)

Games, Characters, Enemies and Worlds in the first row (since they are like the main in game elements
Abilities, Items, Gummi and Cards in the second row (since they are still in game elements but more like... secondary)
Manga, Merchandise, Music and Images in the third row (since they are off gameplay elements

That's my 3 am suggestion