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This is a topic where I need the opinion of every member of the Organization, from III to XII.
==Notes==


Number II - Victor Genesis - wants to add an Original Character to Dissidia KH. He created a story for it : the following one...
Found the Vanitas Remnant hard to beat ? Just try this one... The Unknown, a being with obscure motivations, joins the fight as an enemy... To unlock it, you must first defeat Vanitas Remnant in the Negative Tour, to unlock the Tour of Mastery. In that tour, you get one chance out of 500 to fight him with each card. With 999 points, you'll get to 1% chance of him appearing. As for the rest... It's up to sheer luck.


"The story begins with Unknown appearing from a corridor of Darkness in the realm of Oblivion. After looking at his surroundings, he follows a strange path which has appeared from nowhere. Then, he senses something strange, something...familiar...the Nobodies...After deciding what to do, he then combats against Roxas, who he calls "the new guy". Roxas does not understand this, but he engages in battle any way.. only to be defeated, although Unknown does not finishes with him. He then combats against all the Organization, who strangely recognize him, asking him how was "his new life" going on. After a long way, he finally gets to Xemnas, who tells him that "he should not wear that coat because he was no longer one of them". It is then revealed that Unknown is the only one of the whole organization to have recovered his heart, only to see the truth about the motives of the Organization, deserting and going away, looking for "someone" and getting the enough powers to finish with the organization once and for good. They engage in an epic battle, which even almost opens the Door to Darkness due to their powers, increasing Xemnas' force, making the battle even more difficult. At the end, Xemnas is defeated, fading away, leaving only behind Master Xehanort's keyblade. Then the Door to Light opens, but Unknown sends a burst of darkness to it with its keyblade, changing the path, and then it opens the door to a new world, in which Unknown enters, with the hope of finding that someone."
Just like the Sentiment, once he is defeated, you will receive a special option in the PP Catalog which allows you to fight him as a normal opponent, but you won't be able to control it.


He wants the Unknown, his character, to be a whole character in the story. With a moveset, gears, everything...
==In Battle==


Let's list the pros and cons of this idea.
The Unknown is a '''Battle Deity''', able to kill with multiple attacks that are absurdly hard to avoid. He is incredibly powerful and quick, and his relentless assaults give the opponent no time to recover.


'''Pros'''
He has 9999 HP and Level 100 (or actually higher !) stats.


*Gives a touch of originality to the game
===Attacks ===
*Great, intelligent story.


'''Cons'''
====Brave Attacks====
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!width="5%"|Move
!width="10%"|Type
!width="50%"|Description
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Spiral (Ground)
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Strikes multiple times with a very long combo. Deals massive damage (around 2000 with max Defense).
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Dash
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Dashes around the arena at lightspeed, striking multiple times.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Star
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Summons a meteor from above to strike the enemy. Wall Rushes enemies.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Gale
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Sends a gust of wind towards the enemy. If he is hit, he won't be able to use any of his attacks for a period of time.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Spiral (Midair)
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Aerial'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Strikes multiple times with a very long combo. Deals massive damage (around 2000 with max Defense).
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Bind
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Aerial'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Turns Aerial Blade into a whip-like object and catches enemy, before dealing an intense blow.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Cross
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Aerial'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Sends a homing projectile of pure energy towards enemy. Unlimited range, staggers on contact ; but somewhat low damage compared to the Unknown's other attacks.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Nameless Reflect
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Aerial'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Summons four copies to attack from all sides. Copies vanish after a moment, but also vanish after taking a single hit.
|-
|}


*Why ''his'' Original Character and not ''ours'' ?
====HP Attacks====
*Might contradict some of Nomura's ideas, considering that we will present him the project when it'll end.
{|border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%" bgcolor="#4682B4"
!width="5%"|Move
!width="10%"|Type
!width="50%"|Description
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Time Render (Ground)
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|The Unknown uses this attack when he is stricken in a long combo. Increases the Unknown's Bravery and HP and warps him away from the opponent who is staggered.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Doom Impendant
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|The Unknown warps near the enemy and sends tendrils of energy towards him. The enemy must mash a button in a set period of time. If he fails, he is automatically dead.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Raging Firaja
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Ground'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|The Unknown summons three pillars of Fire to move around him. He can move freely during this attack, but not attack. He can, however, in Ex Mode.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Time Render (Midair)
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Aerial'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|The Unknown uses this attack when he is stricken in a long combo. Increases the Unknown's Bravery and HP and warps him away from the opponent who is staggered.
|-
!bgcolor="#0000CD"|Tera Flare
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|'''Aerial'''
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|The Unknown charges and sends a fireball towards the enemy. It is extremely quick, and upon impact, the explosion has an enormous range that covers most of the field.  
|-
|}


Now we'll have to vote. I can't vote, because I'm neutral, and neither can Victor because he is not. Well, you understand what I mean, no ?
===Ex Mode===


So please vote and EXPLAIN WHY ! Unexplained votes will be considered as neutral. <big><sup><font color=indigo>—</font>[[User:Xelias0|<font color=midnightblue>Nihil Perdere Posset </font>]][[User_talk:Xelias0|<font color=indigo>Qui Nihil Est</font>]]</sup></big> 11:54, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
The Unknown may use his Ex Mode, in which he turns invisible, cannot be targeted and most importantly, uses two of his moves at the same time. He doesn't have an Ex Burst, thankfully. The Unknown receives a full Ex Gauge if you use an Assist.


==So, what do you think ?==
===Abilities===


===Vote for "Yes"===
The Unknown's Block blocks most attacks, and he gains Bravery from Brave Attacks and regains HP from HP Attacks. His Block is also Barrier-like.


===Votes for "No"===
==Battlegen==
*I like the story, believe me, I really do. But the idea that we would be sending this to Nomura (didn't even know about that O.o) makes me think that we ought not to include original characters. So, yeah, not hating on the idea in any way, it's just that one thing that clinched it for me.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 15:41, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
As for Vanitas Sentiment, they allow to get a powerful item, the rare Temporal Gear +, but you'll need the rarest items in order to get it.
 
{|border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%" bgcolor="#4682B4"
!width="20%"|Target
!width="30%"|Condition
!width="20%"|Recommended Level
!width="30%"|Reward
|-
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Unknown
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Successful HP attack
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Level 4
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Infinity Shard
|-
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Unknown
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Ex Burst Hit
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Level 45
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Infinity Stone
|-
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Unknown
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Inflict Break
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Level 76
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Infinity Gem
|-
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Unknown
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Inflict Break
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Level 100
!bgcolor="#FFFFFF"|Infinity Crystal
|}

Latest revision as of 19:54, 21 January 2011

Notes

Found the Vanitas Remnant hard to beat ? Just try this one... The Unknown, a being with obscure motivations, joins the fight as an enemy... To unlock it, you must first defeat Vanitas Remnant in the Negative Tour, to unlock the Tour of Mastery. In that tour, you get one chance out of 500 to fight him with each card. With 999 points, you'll get to 1% chance of him appearing. As for the rest... It's up to sheer luck.

Just like the Sentiment, once he is defeated, you will receive a special option in the PP Catalog which allows you to fight him as a normal opponent, but you won't be able to control it.

In Battle

The Unknown is a Battle Deity, able to kill with multiple attacks that are absurdly hard to avoid. He is incredibly powerful and quick, and his relentless assaults give the opponent no time to recover.

He has 9999 HP and Level 100 (or actually higher !) stats.

Attacks

Brave Attacks

Move Type Description
Nameless Spiral (Ground) Ground Strikes multiple times with a very long combo. Deals massive damage (around 2000 with max Defense).
Nameless Dash Ground Dashes around the arena at lightspeed, striking multiple times.
Nameless Star Ground Summons a meteor from above to strike the enemy. Wall Rushes enemies.
Nameless Gale Ground Sends a gust of wind towards the enemy. If he is hit, he won't be able to use any of his attacks for a period of time.
Nameless Spiral (Midair) Aerial Strikes multiple times with a very long combo. Deals massive damage (around 2000 with max Defense).
Nameless Bind Aerial Turns Aerial Blade into a whip-like object and catches enemy, before dealing an intense blow.
Nameless Cross Aerial Sends a homing projectile of pure energy towards enemy. Unlimited range, staggers on contact ; but somewhat low damage compared to the Unknown's other attacks.
Nameless Reflect Aerial Summons four copies to attack from all sides. Copies vanish after a moment, but also vanish after taking a single hit.

HP Attacks

Move Type Description
Time Render (Ground) Ground The Unknown uses this attack when he is stricken in a long combo. Increases the Unknown's Bravery and HP and warps him away from the opponent who is staggered.
Doom Impendant Ground The Unknown warps near the enemy and sends tendrils of energy towards him. The enemy must mash a button in a set period of time. If he fails, he is automatically dead.
Raging Firaja Ground The Unknown summons three pillars of Fire to move around him. He can move freely during this attack, but not attack. He can, however, in Ex Mode.
Time Render (Midair) Aerial The Unknown uses this attack when he is stricken in a long combo. Increases the Unknown's Bravery and HP and warps him away from the opponent who is staggered.
Tera Flare Aerial The Unknown charges and sends a fireball towards the enemy. It is extremely quick, and upon impact, the explosion has an enormous range that covers most of the field.

Ex Mode

The Unknown may use his Ex Mode, in which he turns invisible, cannot be targeted and most importantly, uses two of his moves at the same time. He doesn't have an Ex Burst, thankfully. The Unknown receives a full Ex Gauge if you use an Assist.

Abilities

The Unknown's Block blocks most attacks, and he gains Bravery from Brave Attacks and regains HP from HP Attacks. His Block is also Barrier-like.

Battlegen

As for Vanitas Sentiment, they allow to get a powerful item, the rare Temporal Gear +, but you'll need the rarest items in order to get it.

Target Condition Recommended Level Reward
Unknown Successful HP attack Level 4 Infinity Shard
Unknown Ex Burst Hit Level 45 Infinity Stone
Unknown Inflict Break Level 76 Infinity Gem
Unknown Inflict Break Level 100 Infinity Crystal
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