Talk:Xion

I believe we can tell what Xion looks like by the second pic. I think we're fine with just one or two.XienZo 23:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Theory

This is a theory, this has nothing to do with the article. Could it be possible that Xion is Kairi's TRUE nobody. I mean, it may sound weird cause Namine is her nobody, but could it be possible that she is the other half of Namine? Squallinoa 08 03:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

She could be Kiari's unbirth... or her version of a heartless given the black hair... Maybe she's just a freak clone of kiari Xheanort created during his expariemants..... I like the last one :)

I think she is Kairi´s second nobody because Kairi´s Heart changed place two times.the first time when she passed it to Sora on Destiny Islands.The second time when Sora stabbed himself with the dark keyblade and released his and Kairi´s Heart wich was when Naminé and Roxas where born.

This makes Sense think of this

There is Sora and Roxas.. but also Ven

There is Kairi and Naminé.. but also Xion

Well, what I see...

There is Sora and Roxas... but also Ven

There is Kairi and Naminé... but also Aqua... but also Xion...

We know Nomura has a thing for the number 3.

I've posted a theory about this somewhere else, but I think Naminé is the odd one out here. Sora is to Roxas as Kairi is to Xion. Naminé's already an exception to the nobody rule. Summon:WALL•E 05:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Could it be possible for a person to have two nobodies?? Squallinoa 08 01:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure? Why not? If Sora had 2 hearts with him, he'd make two nobodies. Thats what I think. Summon:WALL•E 01:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

if thats true,Xion was made first. 86.154.143.242 12:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Then how do you explane Roxas? 204.49.209.110 13:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

This Thoery is very clever but alas, it can't be true. Yes, Kairi's heart is released twice, once on Destiny Islands and once when Sora stabbed himself with the dark keyblade. But through most of the first game, Kairi's body is in a comatose state, not a Nobody. Weither or not it was because she's a Princess of Heart and her body can't leave the Relm of Light or because her heart didn't make a Heartless doesn't make a diffrence. My guess is that she is Kairi's Unbirth because she has connections with Kairi ans Naminé and that really the only thing she could be. Xnaminex 19:56 January 2 2009 (UTC)

Technically, a second nobody could form through the "loophole" that Naminé did, which wouldn't require Kairi's body. The problem with her being a unbirth is that it'd require a person to play Birth By Sleep to UNDERSTAND 358/2 Days, which would be rather unfair. XienZo 01:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I think she isnt even a nobody i think namine made her out of the memories of Sora, Kairi and Namine herself it would explain y shes friends with Xion and why Xion looks like Kairi and why Xion and wield the Kingdom Key thats my theory

Billylemmon - "If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there." TALK - Lewis Carroll She can't be an unbirth, Organization XIII is made up of nobodies. I'm sure Xemnas wouldn't let an Unbirth in...

And here's another thought : if they say that Xion is related to Kairi in some way, then could Xion be made out of Kairi's body ? Because Namine was born when Kairi lost her heart, but the body was Sora's, not Kairi's. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} Well, Kairi never lost her body (did she?), her body remained in the realm of light because she's a princess of heart. So Xion couldn't have been made of Kairi's body. However, if she did, why did she join the Organization so late? she would had been "born" near the beginning of KH and Roxas was "born" near the end of KH, why did he join before her? also, in one of the gameplay pictures of 358/2 days Saïx says (when Xion is arriving to the room) "ah, you have awakened, Xion" (or something like that)

Think that last sentence of yours could be linked to the Room of Awakening ? Just a random thought that I had. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Is namine not made of BOTH sora & kairi? Therefore could xion not be her nobody & namine be a combination? Hence namine having the power over sora's memories while looking like kairi. In short: Xion = Kairi's nobody
Roxas = Sora's nobody
Namine = Both Sora & Kairi's nobody
After all she is the exception to the rule!!!

I'm not too sure... Yes, Namine is pretty much Sora's and Kairi's "Nobody child", formed from Sora's body and Kairi's heart. But what puzzles me more is the fact that Kairi's a Princess of Heart. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Name Change

Shouldn't it be Organization XIV now? Did Xemnas get lazy? --BlueHighwind 22:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Nomura specifically stated the name stays ORG XIII for a reason to be revealed in 358/2 days. XienZo 22:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I bet it's because the guy who engraved organisation XIII everywhere refused to change it to XIV. Myself 123 12:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Plus, 13 is unlucky. Thats why it's so bad ass! 14? Psh. Thats just some spoiled girls birthday where she gets a car. 9__9

um..........................................that's fifteen. XV. get it, got it, good. DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 23:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

13+1=15? XienZo 01:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

no...i think hes talking about a hispanic tradition about when girls turn fifteen, they get cars for their birthdays. DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 05:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The reason that xemnas didn't change the organization's name is because Xion is being kept agenst her will! It kinda mentions that in the japenese comerical thingys...

ur theory

File:Example.jpg its exactly what i believe and u see i have prof if u pay attention u understand that everything is connected our hearts r 1 as r the worlds u see becuz of destiny islands and sora piercing his heart to release kairi's heart it created 2 seprete nobodies namine and xion u see kairi never lost her heart she gave it to sorry but still her body was lost which made xion and when sora released her heart it created roxas and nomine u see

I can barely understand what you just typed. Guardian Soul 13:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Hookt on fonix werkt fer me! (lol)

But that'd mean... if Xion does die in Riku's arms like what we all speculated, and Xion is the second Nobody of Kairi, then wouldn't Kairi be incomplete ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

According to the "Another Report" and Ansem Reports, when a Nobody is destroyed, it goes back to its original form (provided the Heart is not in Heartless form). Kairi should be good to go.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 06:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I see. So Kairi's complete after all, no matter what happens... Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Just a thought...

Shouldn't we use this pic (Xion pic) instead, so Xion's page/image matchs the pages of the other Org.XIII members? Belinda-Rikku 22:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

the quality sucks. Gte a smoother picture. --Zack fair 007 00:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it'd probably look better than lets say, the Roxas picture once you shrink it down. I think that picture will do for now. XienZo 01:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything wrong with that pic. Dr.Kermit^{(The Doctor is in)} 23:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Considering we don't have any nice, hi-res images from 328/2 Days yet, that's pretty bloody good. Go for it. BebopKate 04:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, once I shrink it a bit (and try to fix the quality, I guess... sort of hard for me to do when I have no clue what's so bad about the quality in the first place...) I'll put it up. (BTW, "Zack fair", there is no need to be rude, m'kay?) Belinda-Rikku 04:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't you tell me what to be. That picture is NOT going on that page as long as I'm here --Zack fair 007 04:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Dude. WTF. I did NOT tell you what to be. I only said there is no need to be rude. Because there certainly isn't. I don't know what your problem is, with me. I also have no idea what your problem is with the pic. However, I seem to have the approval/go-ahead from two staff members. I'm sorry if I somehow rub you the wrong way, but I have no clue what the big beef here is. I did say I'd try to fix the pic up a bit. If this is really such a big deal to you, then please, take it to a staff member. I don't mind. But I don't want to deal with someone I don't even know biteing my head off. Belinda-Rikku 04:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Learn some grammar, ok? you said "I DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO BE... DON'T BE RUDE!" fucking idiot. The picture is ugly, and unless you fix it up REAL good, its not going up there. don't take some shit u probably don't even know about up with me. you got it? I'm sorry we had to meet under these circumstances. But still, i cant believe were working on a shit picture, and we have a high quality one right there. SO YEAH --Zack fair 007 04:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

You know, my grammer is pretty fine, actually. That is not what I said, nor how I said it. I don't see what is wrong with the damn picture, and you telling me that it's "ugly" or "shit" does not tell me what the fuck your damn problem with it is. I'm working on fixing it "real good". (and you have a problem with my grammer? Don't even MAKE me rip apart every little wrong thing with everything you've said above.) I was working very hard to hold my temper, because I don't like to pull out what I'm going to call "Super b*tch" on random strangers. But if someone like you is going to give me a hard time, on a fu**ing wiki site, for pete's sake... really. You don't own this friggin' site. You aren't even a staff member. And I have the approval of at least one (and I think it's TWO) STAFF MEMBERS. SO YEAH! If you have a problem with all of this (which you obviously do!) TAKE IT UP WITH A STAFF MEMBER, THEN! Belinda-Rikku 04:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I find this Xion pic better. It's a full body shot like the others. Also, the Xion pic we use now (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Xion) is of worse quality. Also: Grammar and spelling. It's not a race. Mistakes are fine, but take the time to type out what you want to say. (Same to anyone else reading this)

You know, Zack fair... never mind. I will take it to a staff member. But I'm not going to bother replying to you again. It's not worth my time or my stress. Belinda-Rikku 05:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

WTF? KHPEIDA FLAME WAR?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *Runs out of breath* *Inhales* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... You were bei--Zack fair 007 01:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)ng rude Zack... knock it off.71.253.13.185 21:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

the pic is already up, don't call me rude, i already apologized.

Um yeah, already done and over with.
And... why the page stretching? Belinda-Rikku 03:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, a point of advice, zack fair, if you don't learn to behave, you could get kicked off the site. Rock2060 14:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I changed the pic to this [1] (a few days ago ^^' ). It's smaller, but with a better quality. --Unbirth 20:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Xion's Name

Billylemmon - "If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there." TALK - Lewis Carroll I'm not sure if this is the right place, but has anyone noticed that Xion is pronounced the same as Zion? As in, Zion the Holy Land?

Name Theory

Xion = No I

As in Xion is a nobody that never had a heartless counterpart.

But another theory is that Kairi can have many nobodies because she is a Princess of Heart.

Please don't post your fucking theories HERE. go put it on Khinsider. theories can't be used on a wiki. --Zack fair 007 05:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't be so negative... there's no major problems if you post it HERE, just don't post them in the actual article. Longer theories should go on userpages and stuff. XienZo 07:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

No. This is a TALKPAGE. we talk about the page, and stuff about the person. Not sharing dumb theories that make no sense. --Zack fair 007 21:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, technically, the theories are on-topic (about Xion). I suppose they don't contribute much, but there's no need to make a fuss when they show up. XienZo 03:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I did say I wasn't sure if this was the right place. - Billylemmon 18:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

You know what, Xienzo is right. Oh and by the way, a really obvious fact about her name is that you can spell ion, an irregular form of a compound, the mixture of 2+ compounds. That is somewhat symbolic seeing that the elements that make up a human are a heartless and a nobody. So...

Heartless + Nobody = Human

If Xion, Namine, and Kairi are part of that case,

Xion + Namine = Kairi

THis could not be the case although, if in fact, Kairi's Heartless was actually created when her heart left Sora's body, thus creating Xion, Namine, AND Roxas. Roxas is Sora's Nobody, Namine is Kairi's Nobody, but where does Xion fit in all of this? She could very well be a special Heartless, being Sora's, but looking like Kairi, formed by Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body.

But, as that person with no name said, Kairi is a Princess of Heart, so she could have created 2 Nobodies, instead of creating a heartless and a Nobody, creating

Nobody + Nobody = Human or Xion + Namine = Kairi

But, the fact that Sora DID become a heartless combined with the fact that His and Kairi's Heart were in Sora's body, The

Xion + Namine + Roxas = Sora + Kairi

theory is somewhat plausible.

Please, tell me if any of this makes sense or not, and I will change it. Thanks to all who do! Also, If this REALLY isn't where this belongs, I will post it on KHInsider. DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 05:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, no one will complain if you put theories on your user page. XienZo 06:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

BTW, Xion is pronounced as Shion. -User:OrangeGel

In Japan. They also pronounce Xigbar with an S instead of a Z sound. XienZo 04:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I personally think Xion's name will be pronounced "shion" in English too (I'm looking at Marluxia's name as a base; pronounced "mar-lew-sha" and not "mar-lew-zee-ah"). Either way, we'll find out when the game is released. LapisScarab 22:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

This may be a coincidence, but in the Bloody Roar game series, there is a character called Xion the Unborn. Dr.Kermit^{(The Doctor is in)} 17:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Her name could be an anagram of 'Ino' with an X added, just to keep up with the characters having Japanese names. Kaihedgie 18:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I already said that, but it's good to know its not only me :) --Zack fair 007 18:39, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, with all due respect, (which isn't much), SHUT UP! Rock2060 14:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean? Towards me ?

Just ignore him, he probably read the argument up above and thought you did that recently. XienZo 05:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I hear some people saying that Xion's original name is Oni = demon. What do you guys think ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

That makes sense as there's suspicion on whether or not she's real. Myself 123 22:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

That's what I said, added it to the page, but that got removed. Drake Clawfang 23:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear. Here we go again...... There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

She could just be made out of memories...?--User:Scarlet Avatar 10:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} Well, Naminé talked about "leaking memories" in the trailer

Which could mean... leaking memories of Kairi ? o.O This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Used Pods

In the "Mansion: Basement Corridor" area of Twilight Town, there are two pods that say something to the effect of "It seems this pod has been used before." It's been confirmed that Xion has been in a pod. I'm not sure if it's too speculative, or if we should make note of that in her trivia.-xNaminéx

I believe those pods belong to Donald and Goofy. Where did you hear that Xion has been in a pod?XienZo 03:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Well it's not confirmed, but it's a good theory. He's right about the first part - in the hallway, there's two pods that say there were Donald's and Goofy's. There's two others, that say when examined "there's evidence this has been used before", and "this hasn't been used in a while". Interesting indeed.... Drake Clawfang 03:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Very Interesting. And I shouldn't have said "confirmed". I'm referring to the scene in the 358/2 Days trailor when Naminé and DiZ are talking about Xion in front of a pod. So should this be put in her article? -xNaminéx

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} eh, in the trailer, Naminé and DiZ only talk in front of Sora's pod!

Still, They were talking about manipulating someone's memories, and Naminé said "she". I think it a reasonable assumption to say that she was talking about Xion. -xNaminéx

In a screenshot, Axel says she was asleep. It can be in a pod, but Naminé says "I wanted to meet you, Xion", so maybe they have never met before. --Unbirth 20:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

So let's piece together what we've got : Xion resembles Kairi, and the former herself acknowledges it. Namine says "I wanted to meet you, Xion" - perhaps implying that her name has been mentioned but they had never met, similar to the case of Roxas meeting Namine in the digital Twilight Town. Namine and DiZ talk in front of Sora's pod, talking about the manipulation of someone's memories. We assume that Namine is talking about Xion. Xion is told by Riku to get back into her real self but she's not ready to, because she has friends. Xion has a Keyblade, which Riku calls a fake. It seems that when Namine and DiZ are talking in front of Sora's pod, they talk about leaked memories. Could Xion have been created out of these leaked memories, particularly those of Kairi ? Xion has a pod. Guys, what can we make out of this ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Naminé sounded like she was having a very hard time reassembling Sora. Maybe Xion is a temparary holder of Sora's most important memories. Which would explain her likeness to Kairi, and the fact that many characters have implied she doesn't, or wasn't supposed to, exist. If this is true it may also be why the Organization seems to be keeping her in the organization agianst her will, so that Sora can't be complete. She'd be like the Riku Replica, but instead of remembering fake memories, she has someone else's memories; Sora's. In order of Troisnyxetienne's facts, it would be:

• Xion resembles Kairi because most of Sora's important memories revolve around Kairi.
• Naminé wasn't allowed to mean Xion like she wasn't allowed to mean Roxas.
• DiZ and Naminé could had that disscssion before she was released meaning that the leaking memories were being transfered to Xion at that moment.
• Riku spent his year with DiZ and Naminé to make sure Sora would wake up. He wants Xion to "get back into her real self" because she possesses Sora's memories.
• The "fake" Keyblade baffles me to no end. Riku may be playing mind games with Xion to make her want to return to Sora?
• Already explained.
• An artificial body was put into a pod, the leaked memories were transfered into it, and the body came out as Xion. The reason Xion doesn't look exactly like Kairi is because not 100% of Sora's important memories are of Kairi, meaning Xion would have small qualities of other people, like her "dark" appearance comes from Sora's important memories of Riku and her her ability to weild the Kingdom Key comes from Sora's memories of himelf.

If I get many or this right I'll probably pass out. -xNaminéx

Amy Cotton - Trust in yourself and you can archive anything. TALK - You are better off talking to me here. We might get more ansers soon. We just have to be pacint and wait for a while.

Here's my proof

New Theory

Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 21:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC) I had an idea for what Xion could be - the product of Sora's memories. Think about it for a sec. Namine replaced Sora's memories of Kairi with memories of her, right? Well, I think Xion was created from those extracted memories, which explains why she looks like Kairi. To return to her true self means she has to rejoin with Sora, similar to Roxas, in order for Sora to fully regain his memories. This is also why Xion can use a Keyblade, because both Kairi and Sora can as well. This is furthermore why Namine talks about "leaked" memories - Xion is that leak, and until she rejoins Sora his other memories could be damaged as well since Kairi was so integral to what Namine did to him. And because Nobodies sustain themselves on memories, it just makes more sense. So, that's my idea - Xion is a Nobody constructed out of Sora's memories of Kairi.

xNaminex has the same idea too. I think this souds like the most plausible option. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

On second thought, I think we might have to deny this theory. Xion joined some time before Sora went to Castle Oblivion. Larxene and all the people from Chain were there. This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. I've never thought of it, but you're right troisnyx, it's impossible.

Having said thus, now who is Xion ? Every one of our theories seems to be coming to nowhere. Square Enix did a great job this time (the last time, it was rather predictable and we knew DiZ was Ansem the Wise). EDIT : We'll keep watch over this theory for now. I mean, who knows what Squenix will come up with to surprise us once again ? There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Rip off!!!!!

Me (xion) and my brother (axl) were using the screen names xion and axl for years before kingdom hearts came out . Some game desingers saw us on the net and stole our names.--208.118.200.168 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) xion.

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} I really doubt that! I bet that Xion's name has a logical explanation, not just a rip off off your name! plus, If my name was the same as a KH character, I'd be delighted!

Are you cereal? Are you coco puffs cereal? Part of this nutritional breakfest? The name Axel sounds like it isn't THAT uncommon. Seriously, stop being such a loser... You're probably like a 5 year old or something!

Kairi's Keyblade

I think Xion has some sort of connection to the Keyblade Riku gave Kairi.

Saturday-04-apr-2009: Charmed-Jay

I understand why one would think that, but what would the connection possibley be? It's already been shown that Xion's canon ketblade is the Kingdom Key. -xNaminéx

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. Yeah, but he could juste have changed the keychain. I wonder if Xion's keyblade could also be Roxas's second one ?