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I believe we can tell what Xion looks like by the second pic. I think we're fine with just one or two.[[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 23:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
* [[Talk:Xion/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - February, 19, 2018
 
== Theory ==
 
This is a theory, this has nothing to do with the article. Could it be possible that Xion is Kairi's TRUE nobody. I mean, it may sound weird cause Namine is her nobody, but could it be possible that she is the other half of Namine? [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] 03:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:She could be Kiari's unbirth... or her version of a heartless given the black hair... Maybe she's just a freak clone of kiari Xheanort created during his expariemants..... I like the last one :)
 
::I think she is Kairi´s second nobody because Kairi´s Heart changed place two times.the first time when she passed it to Sora on Destiny Islands.The second time when Sora stabbed himself with the dark keyblade and released his and Kairi´s Heart wich was when Naminé and Roxas where born.
 
:::This makes Sense think of this
:::There is Sora and Roxas.. but also Ven
:::There is Kairi and Naminé.. but also Xion
 
 
::::Well, what I see...
::::There is Sora and Roxas... but also Ven
::::There is Kairi and Naminé... but also Aqua... but also Xion...
 
::::We know Nomura has a thing for the number 3.
 
:::::I've posted a theory about this somewhere else, but I think Naminé is the odd one out here. Sora is to Roxas as Kairi is to Xion. Naminé's already an exception to the nobody rule. [[User:Summon:WALL•E|Summon:WALL•E]] 05:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::::::Could it be possible for a person to have '''two''' nobodies?? [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] 01:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::::Sure? Why not? If Sora had 2 hearts with him, he'd make two nobodies. Thats what I think. [[User:Summon:WALL•E|Summon:WALL•E]] 01:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 
::::::::if thats true,Xion was made first. [[Special:Contributions/86.154.143.242|86.154.143.242]] 12:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 
::::::::Then how do you explane Roxas? [[Special:Contributions/204.49.209.110|204.49.209.110]] 13:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::: This Thoery is very clever but alas, it can't be true. Yes, Kairi's heart is released twice, once on Destiny Islands and once when Sora stabbed himself with the dark keyblade. But through most of the first game, Kairi's body is in a comatose state, not a Nobody. Weither or not it was because she's a Princess of Heart and her body can't leave the Relm of Light or because her heart didn't make a Heartless doesn't make a diffrence. My guess is that she is Kairi's Unbirth because she has connections with Kairi ans Naminé and that really the only thing she could be. [[Xnaminex]] 19:56 January 2 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Technically, a second nobody could form through the "loophole" that Naminé did, which wouldn't require Kairi's body. The problem with her being a unbirth is that it'd require a person to play Birth By Sleep to UNDERSTAND 358/2 Days, which would be rather unfair. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 01:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I think she isnt even a nobody i think namine made her out of the memories of Sora, Kairi and Namine herself it would explain y shes friends with Xion and why Xion looks like Kairi and why Xion and wield the Kingdom Key thats my theory
::::::::{{Billylemmon|text=She can't be an unbirth, Organization XIII is made up of nobodies. I'm sure Xemnas wouldn't let an Unbirth in...}}
 
{{TNE|text=And here's another thought : if they say that Xion '''is''' related to Kairi in some way, then could Xion be made out of Kairi's body ? Because Namine was born when Kairi lost her heart, but the body was '''Sora's''', not Kairi's.
}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=Well, Kairi never lost her body (did she?), her body remained in the realm of light because she's a princess of heart. So Xion couldn't have been made of Kairi's body. However, if she did, why did she join the Organization so late? she would had been "born" near the beginning of KH and Roxas was "born" near the end of KH, why did he join before her? also, in one of the gameplay pictures of 358/2 days Saïx says (when Xion is arriving to the room) ''"ah, you have awakened, Xion"'' (or something like that)}}
 
{{TNE|text=Think that last sentence of yours could be linked to the Room of Awakening ? Just a random thought that I had.}}
 
Is namine not made of '''BOTH''' sora & kairi? Therefore could xion not be her nobody & namine be a combination? <u>Hence namine having the power over sora's memories while looking like kairi.</u> In short:
''Xion = Kairi's nobody''<br />
''Roxas = Sora's nobody''<br />
''Namine = Both Sora & Kairi's nobody''<br />
After all she is the exception to the rule!!!
 
{{TNE|text=I'm not too sure... Yes, Namine is pretty much Sora's and Kairi's "Nobody child", formed from Sora's body and Kairi's heart. But what puzzles me more is the fact that Kairi's a Princess of Heart.}}
 
::http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/5/56/Kairi-Normal-Live.gif
:kingdomhearts kairi
::[[Image:Paopu Fruit.jpg|26px]]Um.... actually, Xion isn't a nobody or a heartless or an unbirth. She's an unperfect "replica" of Sora, created by Xemnas from his memories in case Xemnas plans didn't work. She looks like Kairi because Sora was thinking of Kairi the moment she was created. Because shes a replica of Sora but she was created from his memories of Kairi, she doesnt have a gender(she isnt a boy but she also isnt a girl :P -_-'). So, lol, Roxas = Soras nobody, Namine = Kairis nobody and Xion = Soras replica.[[Image:Paopu Fruit.jpg|26px]]
{{LA|Vtext=I concur with... the paopu fruit person.  Xion isn't a Nobody, she's an imperfect replica of Roxas created by Xemnas. The only way she's connected to Kairi (for what we know) is her appearance, and memories. And anyway, Xion can't be Kairi's Nobody because Namine already is, and you can't have ''three'' bodies.}}
 
I have a theory,even though it is not true, but since kairi had no darkness at all in her,maybe she created two nobodies insted of 1,wait,according to kh physics,thats impossible-Iownedsephorothatlvl5
 
== Name Change ==
 
Shouldn't it be Organization XIV now? Did Xemnas get lazy? --[[User:BlueHighwind|<font color = "#000080">'''Blue'''</font>]][[User Talk: BlueHighwind|<font color ="#000000">'''Highwind'''</font>]] 22:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Nomura specifically stated the name stays ORG XIII for a reason to be revealed in 358/2 days. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 22:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::I bet it's because the guy who engraved organisation XIII everywhere refused to change it to XIV. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 12:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Plus, 13 is unlucky. Thats why it's so bad ass! 14? Psh. Thats just some spoiled girls birthday where she gets a car. 9__9
 
um..........................................that's fifteen. XV. get it, got it, good. [[User:DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS|DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS]] 23:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::13+1=15? [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 01:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 
no...i think hes talking about a hispanic tradition about when girls turn fifteen, they get cars for their birthdays. [[User:DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS|DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS]] 05:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 
The reason that xemnas didn't change the organization's name is because Xion is being kept agenst her will! It kinda mentions that in the japenese comerical thingys...
 
{{Template:ST|time=12:45, October 28, 2009 (UTC)|text=He didn't change the name because a) Xion was not a real Nobody ad b)when his plan was completed, either roxas or xion would be destroyed, leaving them back with only 13 (although, admittedly, the numbers got screwed after C.O.)}}
 
== ur theory  ==
 
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/Example.jpg its exactly what i believe and u see i have prof if u pay attention u understand that everything is connected our hearts r 1 as r the worlds
u see becuz of destiny islands and sora piercing his heart to release kairi's heart it created 2 seprete nobodies namine and xion u see kairi never lost her heart she gave it to sorry but still her body was lost which made xion and when sora released her heart it created roxas and nomine u see
 
I can barely understand what you just typed. [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 13:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
Hookt on fonix werkt fer me! (lol)
 
{{troisnyxetienne|text=But that'd mean... if Xion does die in Riku's arms like what we all speculated, and Xion is the second Nobody of Kairi, then wouldn't Kairi be incomplete ?
}}
 
According to the "Another Report" and Ansem Reports, when a Nobody is destroyed, it goes back to its original form (provided the Heart is not in Heartless form). Kairi should be good to go.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 06:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 
{{TNE|text=I see. So Kairi's complete after all, no matter what happens...}}
 
== Just a thought... ==
 
Shouldn't we use this pic ([http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/Ayame19124/Kingdom%20hearts/Xion_by_ps2105.jpg Xion pic]) instead, so Xion's page/image matchs the pages of the other Org.XIII members?
[[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 22:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
: the quality sucks. Gte a smoother picture. --Zack fair 007 00:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, it'd probably look better than lets say, the Roxas picture once you shrink it down. I think that picture will do for now. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 01:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::: I don't think there's anything wrong with that pic. [[User:Dr.Kermit|<span style="color: #00C;">'''Dr.Kermit'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dr.Kermit|<span style="color: #93C;">'''The Doctor is in'''</span>]])</sup> 23:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Considering we don't have any nice, hi-res images from ''328/2 Days'' yet, that's pretty bloody good. Go for it. [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 04:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, once I shrink it a bit (and try to fix the quality, I guess... sort of hard for me to do when I have no clue what's so bad about the quality in the first place...) I'll put it up. (BTW, "Zack fair", there is no need to be rude, m'kay?) [[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 04:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Don't you tell me what to be. That picture is NOT going on that page as long as I'm here --Zack fair 007 04:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Dude. WTF. I did NOT tell you what to be. I only said there is no need to be rude. Because there certainly isn't. I don't know what your problem is, with me. I also have no idea what your problem is with the pic. However, I seem to have the approval/go-ahead from two staff members. I'm sorry if I somehow rub you the wrong way, but I have no clue what the big beef here is. I did say I'd try to fix the pic up a bit. If this is really such a big deal to you, then please, take it to a staff member. I don't mind. But I don't want to deal with someone I ''don't even know'' biteing my head off. [[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 04:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Learn some grammar, ok? you said "I DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO BE... DON'T BE RUDE!" fucking idiot. The picture is ugly, and unless you fix it up REAL good, its not going up there. don't take some shit u probably don't even know about up with me. you got it? I'm sorry we had to meet under these circumstances. But still, i cant believe were working on a shit picture, and '''we have a high quality one right there'''. SO YEAH --Zack fair 007 04:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::You know, my grammer is pretty fine, actually. That is not what I said, nor how I said it. I don't see what is wrong with the damn picture, and you telling me that it's "ugly" or "shit" does not tell me what the fuck your damn problem with it is. I'm working on fixing it "real good". (and you have a problem with '''my''' grammer? Don't even MAKE me rip apart every little wrong thing with everything you've said above.) I was working very hard to hold my temper, because I don't like to pull out what I'm going to call "Super b*tch" on random strangers. But if someone like you is going to give me a hard time, on a fu**ing '''wiki''' site, for pete's sake... really. You don't own this friggin' site. You aren't even a staff member. '''And I have the approval of at least one (and I think it's TWO) STAFF MEMBERS.''' SO YEAH! If you have a problem with all of this (which you obviously do!) TAKE IT UP WITH A STAFF MEMBER, THEN! [[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 04:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Personally, I find this Xion pic better. It's a full body shot like the others. Also, the Xion pic we use now (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Xion) is of worse quality. Also: Grammar and spelling. It's not a race. Mistakes are fine, but take the time to type out what you want to say. (Same to anyone else reading this)
:::::::::::You know, Zack fair... never mind. '''I''' will take it to a staff member. But I'm not going to bother replying to you again. It's not worth my time or my stress. [[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 05:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
WTF? KHPEIDA FLAME WAR?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *Runs out of breath* *Inhales* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... You were bei--Zack fair 007 01:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)ng rude Zack... knock it off.[[Special:Contributions/71.253.13.185|71.253.13.185]] 21:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 
 
the pic is already up, don't call me rude, i already apologized.
 
 
 
 
Um yeah, already done and over with.<br />
And... why the page stretching? [[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 03:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
Seriously, a point of advice, zack fair, if you don't learn to behave, you could get kicked off the site. [[User:Rock2060|Rock2060]] 14:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/575/4525698rg7.jpg I changed the pic to this [http://www.khdestiny.fr/img/Kingdom_Hearts_358-2_Days/artworks-renders/renders-003.jpg] (a few days ago ^^' ). It's smaller, but with a better quality. --[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] 20:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Xion's Name ==
 
{{Billylemmon|text=I'm not sure if this is the right place, but has anyone noticed that Xion is pronounced the same as Zion? As in, Zion the Holy Land?}}
 
I thought so too. But it's pronounced Shi-on. Like Mar-lu-sha.
 
'''Name Theory'''
 
Xion = No I
 
As in Xion is a nobody that never had a heartless counterpart.
 
But another theory is that Kairi can have many nobodies because she is a Princess of Heart.
 
 
Please don't post your fucking theories HERE. go put it on Khinsider. theories can't be used on a wiki. --Zack fair 007 05:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:Don't be so negative... there's no major problems if you post it HERE, just don't post them in the actual article. Longer theories should go on userpages and stuff. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 07:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 
::No. This is a TALKPAGE. we talk about the page, and stuff about the person. Not sharing dumb theories that make no sense. --Zack fair 007 21:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Well, technically, the theories are on-topic (about Xion). I suppose they don't contribute much, but there's no need to make a fuss when they show up. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 03:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 
::::I '''did''' say I wasn't sure if this was the right place. - [[User:Billylemmon|Billylemmon]] 18:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 
You know what, Xienzo is right. Oh and by the way, a really obvious fact about her name is that you can spell ion, an irregular form of a compound, the mixture of 2+ compounds. That is somewhat symbolic seeing that the elements that make up a human are a heartless and a nobody. So...
 
Heartless + Nobody = Human
 
If Xion, Namine, and Kairi are part of that case,
 
Xion + Namine = Kairi
 
THis could not be the case although, if in fact, Kairi's Heartless was actually created when her heart left Sora's body, thus creating Xion, Namine, AND Roxas. Roxas is Sora's Nobody, Namine is Kairi's Nobody, but where does Xion fit in all of this? She could very well be a special Heartless, being Sora's, but looking like Kairi, formed by Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body.
 
But, as that person with no name said, Kairi is a Princess of Heart, so she could have created 2 Nobodies, instead of creating a heartless and a Nobody, creating
 
Nobody + Nobody = Human
or
Xion + Namine = Kairi
 
But, the fact that Sora DID become a heartless combined with the fact that His and Kairi's Heart were in Sora's body, The
 
Xion + Namine + Roxas = Sora + Kairi
 
theory is somewhat plausible.
 
Please, tell me if any of this makes sense or not, and I will change it. Thanks to all who do! Also, If this REALLY isn't where this belongs, I will post it on KHInsider. [[User:DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS|DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS]] 05:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 
::[[File:Kairi (Normal Live) KHCOM.gif]]
:kingdomhearts kairi
::[[File:Paopu Fruit.jpg|30px]]Xion + Namine = Kairi with Sora memories(or a Sora that looks like Kairi LOL!) xD. Xions a replica of Sora not Kairis heartless lol oganization XIII would never let a heartless become a member of the organization.[[File:Paopu Fruit.jpg|30px]]
 
:Well, no one will complain if you put theories on your user page. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 06:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
BTW, Xion is pronounced as Shion. -[[User:OrangeGel]]
:In Japan. They also pronounce Xigbar with an S instead of a Z sound. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 04:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:I personally think Xion's name will be pronounced "shion" in English too (I'm looking at Marluxia's name as a base; pronounced "mar-lew-sha" and not "mar-lew-zee-ah"). Either way, we'll find out when the game is released. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 22:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 
This may be a coincidence, but in the Bloody Roar game series, there is a character called Xion the Unborn. [[User:Dr.Kermit|<span style="color: #00C;">'''Dr.Kermit'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dr.Kermit|<span style="color: #93C;">'''The Doctor is in'''</span>]])</sup> 17:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Her name could be an anagram of 'Ino' with an X added, just to keep up with the characters having Japanese names. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 18:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:I already said that, but it's good to know its not only me :) --Zack fair 007 18:39, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Okay, with all due respect, (which isn't much), SHUT UP! [[User:Rock2060|Rock2060]] 14:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:What do you mean? Towards me ?
::Just ignore him, he probably read the argument up above and thought you did that recently. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 05:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 
{{TNE|text=I hear some people saying that Xion's original name is Oni = demon. What do you guys think ?}}
 
:That makes sense as there's suspicion on whether or not she's real. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 22:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::That's what I said, added it to the page, but that got removed. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 23:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 
{{TNE|blahtext=Oh dear. Here we go again......}}
 
:She could just be made out of memories...?--[[User:Scarlet Avatar]] 10:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Xiggie|text=Well, Naminé talked about "leaking memories" in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDMhIohTD4&eurl=http://khxiggie.blogcentral.is/sida/2369873/&feature=player_embedded the trailer]}}
 
{{TNE|shocktext=Which could mean... leaking memories of Kairi ? o.O}}
 
::[[File:Kairi (Normal Live) KHCOM.gif]]
:kingdomhearts kairi
::[[File:Paopu Fruit.jpg|30px]]No lol not leaking memories of Kairi but leaking memories of SORA. In the trailer, when Namine said that "If it's connected to another memory, surely she can't endure it.", she was talking about Kairi("she"), and that if she found out that Soras memory of her("another memory") was gone she wouldn't be able to endure it :o D:.[[File:Paopu Fruit.jpg|30px]]
 
== Used Pods ==
 
In the "Mansion: Basement Corridor" area of Twilight Town, there are two pods that say something to the effect of "It seems this pod has been used before." It's been confirmed that Xion has been in a pod. I'm not sure if it's too speculative, or if we should make note of that in her trivia.-[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]
 
I believe those pods belong to Donald and Goofy. Where did you hear that Xion has been in a pod?[[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 03:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 
Well it's not confirmed, but it's a good theory. He's right about the first part - in the hallway, there's two pods that say there were Donald's and Goofy's. There's two others, that say when examined "there's evidence this has been used before", and "this hasn't been used in a while". Interesting indeed.... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 
Very Interesting. And I shouldn't have said "confirmed". I'm referring to the scene in the 358/2 Days trailor when Naminé and DiZ are talking about Xion in front of a pod. So should this be put in her article? -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]
 
{{Xiggie|text=eh, in the trailer, Naminé and DiZ only talk in front of '''Sora's pod'''!}}
 
Still, They were talking about manipulating someone's memories, and Naminé said "she". I think it a reasonable assumption to say that she was talking about Xion. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/575/4525698rg7.jpg In a screenshot, Axel says she was asleep. It can be in a pod, but Naminé says "I wanted to meet you, Xion", so maybe they have never met before. --[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] 20:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 
{{TNE|text=So let's piece together what we've got :
 
*Xion resembles Kairi, and the former herself acknowledges it.
*Namine says "I wanted to meet you, Xion" - perhaps implying that her name has been mentioned but they had never met, similar to the case of Roxas meeting Namine in the digital Twilight Town.
*Namine and DiZ talk in front of Sora's pod, talking about the manipulation of someone's memories. We assume that Namine is talking about Xion.
*Xion is told by Riku to get back into her real self but she's not ready to, because she has friends.
*Xion has a Keyblade, which Riku calls a fake.
*It seems that when Namine and DiZ are talking in front of Sora's pod, they talk about leaked memories. Could Xion have been created out of these leaked memories, particularly those of Kairi ?
*Xion has a pod.
 
Guys, what can we make out of this ?}}
 
Naminé sounded like she was having a very hard time reassembling Sora. Maybe Xion is a temparary holder of Sora's most important memories. Which would explain her likeness to Kairi, and the fact that many characters have implied she doesn't, or wasn't supposed to, exist. If this is true it may also be why the Organization seems to be keeping her in the organization agianst her will, so that Sora can't be complete. She'd be like the Riku Replica, but instead of remembering fake memories, she has someone else's memories; Sora's. In order of Troisnyxetienne's facts, it would be:
 
*Xion resembles Kairi because most of Sora's important memories revolve around Kairi.
*Naminé wasn't allowed to mean Xion like she wasn't allowed to mean Roxas.
*DiZ and Naminé could had that disscssion before she was released meaning that the leaking memories were being transfered to Xion at that moment.
*Riku spent his year with DiZ and Naminé to make sure Sora would wake up. He wants Xion to "get back into her real self" because she possesses Sora's memories.
*The "fake" Keyblade baffles me to no end. Riku may be playing mind games with Xion to make her want to return to Sora?
* Already explained.
*An artificial body was put into a pod, the leaked memories were transfered into it, and the body came out as Xion. The reason Xion doesn't look exactly like Kairi is because not 100% of Sora's important memories are of Kairi, meaning Xion would have small qualities of other people, like her "dark" appearance comes from Sora's important memories of Riku and her her ability to weild the Kingdom Key comes from Sora's memories of himelf.
If I get many or this right I'll probably pass out. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]
 
{{Amy Cotton|text=We might get more ansers soon. We just have to be pacint and wait for a while.}}
 
==Here's my proof==
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/images/famitsu21.jpg
 
== New Theory ==
 
{{Drake|time=21:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)|text=I had an idea for what Xion could be - the product of Sora's memories.
 
Think about it for a sec. Namine replaced Sora's memories of Kairi with memories of her, right? Well, I think Xion was created from those extracted memories, which explains why she looks like Kairi. To return to her true self means she has to rejoin with Sora, similar to Roxas, in order for Sora to fully regain his memories. This is also why Xion can use a Keyblade, because both Kairi and Sora can as well. This is furthermore why Namine talks about "leaked" memories - Xion is that leak, and until she rejoins Sora his other memories could be damaged as well since Kairi was so integral to what Namine did to him. And because Nobodies sustain themselves on memories, it just makes more sense.
 
So, that's my idea - Xion is a Nobody constructed out of Sora's memories of Kairi.}}
 
{{TNE|text=xNaminex has the same idea too. I think this souds like the most plausible option.}}
 
{{TNE|shocktext=On second thought, I think we might have to deny this theory. Xion joined some time before Sora went to Castle Oblivion. Larxene and all the people from Chain were there.}}
 
{{unbirthtalk|text=I've never thought of it, but you're right troisnyx, it's impossible.}}
 
{{TNE|blahtext=Having said thus, now who '''is''' Xion ? Every one of our theories seems to be coming to nowhere. Square Enix did a great job this time (the last time, it was rather predictable and we knew DiZ was Ansem the Wise).
 
EDIT : We'll keep watch over this theory for now. I mean, who knows what Squenix will come up with to surprise us once again ?}}
 
Drake Clawfang was really close! As we know now, Xion is made from Sora's leaked memories (which he got right). However, we also know that she is not a Nobody. I'd like to give thumbs up to Drake Clawfang! His theory turned out to be true. :) [[User:HealerSpirit|HealerSpirit]] 09:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:I'm good aren't I? Heh heh.... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku Kuroofangu]] 10:31, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Rip off!!!!! ==
 
Me (xion) and my brother (axl) were using the screen names xion and axl for years before kingdom hearts came out . Some game desingers saw us on the net and stole our names.--[[Special:Contributions/208.118.200.168|208.118.200.168]] 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) xion.
 
{{Xiggie|shocked =I really doubt that!
 
I bet that Xion's name has a logical explanation, not just a rip off off your name!
 
plus, If my name was the same as a KH character, I'd be delighted!}}
 
Are you cereal? Are you coco puffs cereal? Part of this nutritional breakfest? The name Axel sounds like it isn't THAT uncommon. Seriously, stop being such a loser... You're probably like a 5 year old or something!
 
 
no i'm 23 and just donn't like having my screeen name stole buy a faggoty video game--[[Special:Contributions/208.118.205.43|208.118.205.43]] 04:07, July 3, 2010 (UTC)xion
 
Dude, don't be stupid. It's not funny OR cool. Besides, there is another video game character named Xion. I'm not sure what game he's from, but his full name is "Xion the Unborn." [[User:DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS|DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS]] 15:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
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{{NinjaSheik|angry=Don't call Xiggie a loser! He's very cool! For your information, the name Axel is comman, but not in AMERICA! This is Japanese we're talking about, dude! Xion is a Japanese name, right?! I see the name Axel here and there all the time! About it's just coincidence!}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=I think [[User:DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS|DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS]] was referring to "208.118.200.168", not me, NinjaSheik.
 
but thanks for standing up for me :P}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|happy=You're welcome! What are friends for?}}
it can't be a addicent(i have bad spelling)but when they use my name(katie)i'll believe this isn't a addicent
 
deal with it druggie[[User:D.Dark.|D.Dark.]] 17:48, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Durrf9|time=14:39, March 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=dude this person posted the exact same thing on the axel talk page dude stop being so fame hungry!}}
{{LA|Vtext=Guys, don't pay attention to that guy... that's a troll! He's just saying this stuff to cause a fight!}}
{{Xabryn|text=If he really meant AXL isn't it a name of a character of Megaman X7 and 8?}}
 
== Kairi's Keyblade ==
I think Xion has some sort of connection to the [[Kairi's Keyblade|Keyblade]] Riku gave Kairi.
 
Saturday-04-apr-2009: [[User:Charmed-Jay|Charmed-Jay]]
 
I understand why one would think that, but what would the connection possibley be? It's already been shown that Xion's canon ketblade is the Kingdom Key. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]
 
{{unbirthtalk|text=Yeah, but he could just have changed the keychain. I wonder if Xion's keyblade could also be Roxas's second one ?}}
 
{{TNE|happytext='''''Unbirth, tu as raison !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDD''''' Xion's Keyblade '''is''' Roxas' second one ! I think I should count on you for BBS and Coded theories too.}}
 
== Theories ==
 
{{Azul|text=Should theories have it's own page as Xion/Theories ?}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=That would be a good idea :P
 
if this idea "passes", then shouldn't we also put up a page for theories on the other upcoming characters (the BBS characters and the New unknown)}}
{{Twoface13|That page is unecessary. Click on ''Light'' in my talk bubble, and you'll see why.|}}
 
{{Azul|text=Soo.... move them to your sub-page?}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=Well, we could create a "official" theory page... or, wait, that's why we have the forums, right...}}
 
{{Twoface13|I was just stating an option. Feel free to put your theories wherever you want.|}}
 
{{Azul|text=My first reaction was to create something [[finalfantasy:Gogo_(Final_Fantasy_VI)/Identity_Speculation|like this]], or [[finalfantasy:Ramza/Marche Theory|this]].}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=yeah... I think it would be wiser to have a theory page for each character rather than having it all in the same spot!}}
 
{{Azul|text=Yes, it would be better. If there are no objections I will continue with this.}}
 
{{yer mom|text=Well the pages you offered as example are about theories from games that are already out in the market. If we start pages about theories from characters in games that aren't released (such as Xion, Ven, etc.) the articles would turn into unnecessary pages once the games ARE released since most (if not all) the theories would be either proven as false or true. But that's just my opinion, I do like reading theories tho XD!}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=true, but we could just remove the page once the game's released! and say so in the article!
 
or just keep it on for fun, I mean, who doesn't like theories :P ''(as long as they're not rubbish!)''}}
 
{{Azul|text=Or we can just move them to the forums...?}}
 
== Kingdom hearts in the sky !!!! ==
 
When you look at the picture of Xion in the section ´´Here is my proof´´ you can see Kingdom Hearts in the top right corner ?
{{TNE|blahtext=No doubt ; that thing took place in The World That Never Was.}}
 
We know that Roxas entered the Organisation before Xion, and it means that the theory about kairi´s heart could make two nobodies useless.For that theory to work Xion had to be born before Roxas and she didn´t so guess its Proof: 1 Guess: 0
 
==Semi-protection ?==
{{TNE|text=Do you think we need to semi-protect this article such that registered users can edit this ? Because we've had too many cases of anonymous IPs editing this page and adding unnecessary speculation.
 
Similar case for the Sora page.}}
{{MM841||Yeah, and all pages which are subject to speculation- MX, MX's apprentice, Terra, Ventus, Aqua.}}
{{TNE|text=Let's just hope any one of our admins sees this......}}
 
==Powers?==
I once did a picture of what Xion's attribute might be. The closest could be mirrors and reflection. This is probably because Xion looks like Kairi and she has a Kingdom Key of her own. Plus, I think it would be cool. Another possibility is Sound, She can create sonic vibrations. Another is Metal She can probably turn herself into metal and finally like Saix rises with the moon, Xion could rise with the sun. What do the rest of you think? [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 14:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
:Why would she do any of that when her attribute is given as light?—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 23:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::Since when is Xion's power Light. Do you have any proof? Also, I saw the Extra's section of KH 358/2 Days and Donald Goofy And Xion are Secret Playable Characters. [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 00:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
:::...Exactly why did you bring up Donald and Goofy? ...And I'd be looking up the magazine scan that says it if ''any of the big fansites would work algajdgbjag''—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 05:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
::::And here it is! [http://www.khinsider.com/images/Dengeki05.jpg] Both Xion and Roxas are shown with the attribute "光" (light).—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 05:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok. In my fanfic she had the power of Mirrors.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 12:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 
==Keyblade==
I don't suppose anyone else was thinking that Roxas's ability to dual-wield could be related to Xion’s Keyblade.
:Wow. That's actually pretty cool. I agree --Zack fair 007 21:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 
I dont get it either. --[[User:Kairi4evr|Kairi4evr]] 00:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Absorbed by Roxas? ==
 
{{XNamineX|text=I'm not saying it's wrong, but does anyone know where the info that Xion is absorbed Roxas came from?}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=It's probably came from someone who already played the game.}}
 
{{XNamineX|text=OH!! =O That's right! It came out in Japan already. Sorry, I didn't realize. X)}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|happy=It's okay.}}
 
If it is already out in Japan why isn´t there any wideo fotage on youtube or other channels ?
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=It is on YouTube. You just to need to type in the right thing to find it.}}
My bad, just found it at first try =)
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=It's fine.}}
 
should probably be sourced and accurately confirmed.
 
also it seems to be a bit to soon after release to have gotten that far completed.
 
{{Guardian Soul|text=It's been completed.  You can easily watch the youtube video where she gets absorbed.}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Yes, that's true}}
 
Xion isn't absorbed. All the video of the death shows is that she turned into crystals, and the memories floated up into the air and away, rather than Roxas taking any of it in.
 
==Wait a Minute==
{{Amy Cotton|text=Risa Uchida, who voiced Xion in the Japanese version, is also Kairi's Japanese voice actress. I wonder if Alison Stoner or Hayden Panettiere will voice her in Engilsh? I doubed that, y'know.}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Why? It could be possible, Amy.}}
 
{{Amy Cotton|text=It might. I think I'll take another look.}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text='Kay!}}
 
{{Amy Cotton|text=I checked wikipedia pages of Panettiere and Stoner, but both are of Kairi and not Xion. So, we may have to wait another month. Sombody will voice her, and it could be one of the girls who voiced Kairi.}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Perhaps. But remember, Amy, no one really trust the wiki, do they? I wonder who will voice Naminé...}}
 
==Xion's English Voice==
{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=They just showed the first English trailer on G4's E3 coverage. It featured Xion's English voice. It was really good, not to mention really familiar. I couldn't tell who she was though
 
ETA: And here it is, low quality, but what are you gonna do?:
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{{NinjaSheik|happy=OH...MY...GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! OH, MY GOD!!! I'M SO HAPPY!! THAT WAS THE COOLEST THING I'D HAVE EVER SEEN!!! THANK YOU!!!}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=Wow, like it. thanks :D}}
 
::[[File:Kairi-superhappy.jpg]]
:kingdomhearts kairi
::[[File:Paopu Fruit.jpg|30px]]omg. omg! OMG!!!!! :D :D :D ^u^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks!....and I think I might know whos voice her voice is like.... KAIRI! :o HER VOICE SOUNDS LIKE KAIRIS VOICE! I think it might be because she was created from Soras memories of Kairi, so she has Kairis voice.... :P :o[[File:Paopu Fruit.jpg|30px]]
{{EO|text=Xion is voiced by Alyson Stoner, who played Kairi in ReCoM.}}
{{Firaga44|text=that's cool but for some weird reason i think xion might say whatcha doing because alyson stoner voices isabella  and pretty much every episode of phineas and ferb she says whatcha doing}}
 
{{PrincessAndie|text= LOL. I highly doubt (HA! I FINALLY SPELLED IT RIGHT!) that would happen though. It'd be pretty cool though.}}
 
== Where have I seen this before? ==
 
I'm just thinking... Xion's story kind of resembles that of another famous character from square... They both belonged to a organization, found out about the terrible experiments behind their birth, went insane, deserted the organization and tryed to destroy they're former comrades... I swear, this is so familiar! But that's just my opinion!--[[User:Kai Maciel|Kai Maciel]] 19:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Xiggie|text=Yeah, now that I think about it, her story resembles that of Sephioths. she is even "slain" by one of her fellow members from the Org., like Sephiroth was slain by Cloud...
 
I guess SE really likes to reuse ideas, huh?}}
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=You're right, Xiggie. It was probbaly Sephiroth that have a simliar story to Xion's. He was a member of SOLDIER, a good guy, and we eventually gone insane, hurting his friends and getting killed by one of his comrades.
 
SE should really be more originally, but it doesn;t really matter to me.}}
 
== Original Name proof, please. ==
 
Original name = No. I, as in Number 1? [[User:DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS|DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS]] 03:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 
technically her true name would be S.O.R.A.But we've already got [[Roxas|one of those]].
:Why would it technically be Sora? She isn't Sora's nobody, she's a puppet. [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 03:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 
she isn't a nobody at all. she's a clone. of sora.
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Yes, that is true. But Xemnas made her from Sora's memories. I think he have the right to name her, don't you think? He calles No. I, according from what I heard.}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=And Repliku is likely No. II, unless it just refers to Sora clones.}}
 
or I means "Me" instead of "One"
 
 
Well, I guess you're right. After all Roxas wasn't originally named Roxas either, he was named by Xemnas when he first found him. So I guess he named Xion from Number I.
 
 
I think the captial wasn't put in there for a reason. It's not "No. I", it's "No. i". If you know your math, you know that "i" is an imaginary number; that is, a number that's not real. That's more fitting, I think.
 
== So many questions ==
 
I don't get it, it said that if Xion absorbs Roxas, then Sora's memory restoration would cease completely, but when Roxas absorbs Xion, it works the same. How come? It's like no matter who absorbs the other one, the result would be the same. And how long has Sora been sleeping exactly? I remember in Kingdom Hearts II, while Naminé was restoring his memory, the database first said "Restoration at 12%" before further progressing. Did something happen? Did they re-do the process or something?
 
And why did Roxas fall asleep for weeks instead of never waking up, since Sora is already sleeping?
 
And why is it that they didn't merge Roxas with Sora once they captured him? After all, Ansem said they needed one another to be able to be complete. If that really was true, then why did Ansem lock him up in that Digitized Twilight Town?
 
And how exactly did Xemnas create Xion via Sora's leaked memories? Was it like, Xemnas gathered memories from Sora's lost heart?
 
 
I don't understand your first point but for your second, why would Roxas never wake up?
The reason DiZ didn't merge Roxas and sora immediately was that sora needed to recover his memories first
Well, during the superboss fight in final mix, Xemnas walks ''through'' sora and images from the game flash on screen. presumably She was created then.[[Special:Contributions/67.76.40.218|67.76.40.218]] 21:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 
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== Xion's title ==
 
We know almost everything about Xion except one: Her Title. Everyone in Organization XIII had a title. What is Xion's?[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 13:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 
{{Xiggie|text=I think that it is "Key of Destiny", like Roxas' title. since it was planned to make them merge into one and become Sora. Then Roxas wouldn't had been a member anymore, and the new Sora would had been member nr. XIII, ''"The Key of Destiny"'' !}}
 
Really. Interesting.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 14:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Yes, that is true. That's why they didn't change their name from Organization XIII to Organization XIV when Xion joined. Xemnas planned to use Xion to absored Roxas, so the real Sora never awakens, and Xion will become the new thirthteen member!}}
 
That plan backfired and Roxas ended up absorbing Xion. WHich would explain how he could weild two keyblades. But which would be Oathkeeper and which would be Oblivion?[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 16:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 
organization didn't namechange because Xion isn't a Nobody.And at a rough guess i'd say Xion's keyblade was the oathkeeper one.(just a guess)
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=Could be.}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=Actually, Roxas just had two Kingdom keys to dual wield (which can both be changed into other forms using "gears") until he left the Organization (encountered Riku). then the two keyblades first changed into Oathkeeper and Oblivion, see [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1OazZXkZgw this video] !}}
 
==Something is missing==
{{TNE|text=Remember the part where Xemnas and the other members gather in Where Nothing Gathers and Xion is introduced ? (I saw this in one of the early trailers by the way) Why is it that Larxene and the rest all mock her ? Shouldn't that have been mentioned too ?}}
 
 
Well maybe the reason they mock her is that she isn't a real nobody but an imperfect clone of Sora.Or maybe it's because she's new.--[[Special:Contributions/74.160.160.122|74.160.160.122]] 17:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Goma107
 
{{TNE|text=We can't put in maybes, because Days is already out and surely the reason would've been made clear to players.}}
 
== Gender ==
 
She doesn't have a gender, does she? We already know she looks female ''only'' because Sora's strongest memory was Kairi, not that she was one herself. Sora's strongest memory could have been a special pencil he lost, and that's what she would have looked like. So, being a Sora clone, that either makes her male. If not, just genderless, seeing as her component are memories, and memories don't have any title to go by. She changes forms as well. Why was that erased from the article, then?
{{KrytenKoro|Technically, Nobodies' don't "have" gender, but Xion identifies and has been identified by the production team as a "she".}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=Has anyone ever thought that maybe in that scene Roxas only '''saw''' Xion as Sora?  Because Xigbar sees her as Ven and Roxas sees her face even though she has her hood up a couple of times.  I think that could be the case since she looks like herself after the fight.  I guess we'll need the NA version to know for sure.}}
 
They actually ''do'' have genders, considering that they take after who they were before. A Nobody is the leftover '''body''' and soul. They might not exist, but that doesn't mean they don't have a sex to go by. The production team labeled her as a "she", because, obviously, they are not going to spill the game and say she's genderless or a male, due to her being a Sora clone made of his memories. The point is, whether she identifies herself or not as a "she", and she's been that way for most of her stay, the factual reality of it is that "she's"...''not''. She looks the way she does because of Kairi being Sora's strongest memory. What if it was a beach ball that was his strongest memory? Or a boat? Or even a palm tree? Will she be a "she" then? The thing wasn't really wrong, honestly.
 
I dont think she has a gender,and because she is a memory being she doesnt even truly have form.Roxas and few other who are connected to a certain "apecial" person see her as xion.Other see her simply with her hood on and Xigbar sees her as ven.When riku saw her for the first time he already saw her as sora,because this form is her true nature,she IS Sora´s clone after all.that also explains why her body seems to change from a female to a male in one blink of an eye during the scene shortly before the battle against her.
 
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{{NinjaSheik|text=Hmmm...Agreed.}}
 
 
Guys, I'm going to have to disagree on this. I see Xion as female. She may be a clone/replica of Sora, but she's an -'''im'''perfect- clone/replica. And memories themselves may be genderless, but the people in memories aren't genderless. Had Xion been a, *cough* beach ball, or whatever, then yes, she would be genderless as beach balls have no gender. But she's not. She's a Kairi-alike, and last I knew, Kairi was a female. Thus, Xion should be female. *Raises up flame-protective shield* [[User:BelindaxRikku|Belinda-Rikku]] 17:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Xion / Ven ==
 
Can anyone tell me where to find the video where xion transforms into ven? and how do you know that its ven and not roxas?
:She doesn't transform, Xigbar just sees her as Ven in his mind. And you can tell it's Ven because he's wearing Ven's armor and clothing. 01:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
i realize that and i misunderstood about the ven and roxas thing because i thught it was another vid but can u tell me where i can see the video of this scene?
Justo go on youtube type in sumthin like...."xion is ven?" i think the video was...well. thers hundreds of copies from different youtube users. same stuffs tho.
:In Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ventus's Heart was incomplete. He then heard Sora's heart ask for a solution for Ven's problem, Ven accepted it and his heart became one with sora's. 10 years later Sora became a Heartless and his Nobody Roxas was created. Before/after the Castle Oblivion incident, Organization XIII took data from Sora and Vexen Made Xion.
 
== Xion a he-she?!? ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= Ya know where it says that Xion has Sora's body? Does that make her a he-she? I really hope I'm wrong. . .}}
{{Template:Anthony8123
|text=No, she looks like that because she's made of him, basically.
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So, as far as Kingdom Hearts III goes, rather than mention that Xion replicated Saix's Lunatic and fighting style several times, would we be able to instead mention Xion's ability to copy more vaguely in the Abilities section and then also include the Berserker in the Gallery under her weapons. It's interesting too because Xion didn't summon her replica Keyblade until Xemnas told her to kill Lea. It seems that it was because Xemnas reminded her of her past with Axel, but it's never really elaborated on. Also, Xion's face is not seen again until after she makes contact with Sora, which suggests that her Heart wasn't released from Sora until that point, but again, it's never really talked about. ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 17:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC))


{{XNX|text=Well, actually, she's genderless (I my opinion.) Since she's made out of Sora's memories, her physical appearance changes with the changes in Sora's memories (Naminé's memory manipulation.)}}
== Probably opening a can of worms here ==
 
{{PrincessAndie|text= Whew! Thank God I am ( Somewhat ) wrong! Curiosity really gets the best of me sometimes, and I either ask or do the dumbest things! (:B }}
 
well,xion in my opinion is either a he-she or genderless-Iownedsephorothatlvl5
 
Xion refers to herself as female. The other Organisation members, even if they see a guy's form, refer to her as female. Only Saïx doesn't and he's clearly depicted as an asshole for that. If by 'a he-she' you're asking if Xion is transgender or intersex, then you need to change your terminology to something more respectful (though, from your add-on of 'I really hope I'm wrong', it's quite clear you don't ''want'' to be respectful). [[Special:Contributions/81.111.131.249|81.111.131.249]] 13:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 
== Fake Key ==
 
I am so through with this Fake Key crap, just find out Xion's title and make up mind, will'ya?
:We're going to have to wait until September, when the English translation for her title is released. Until then, any name will be fallacious.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::According to the Japanese Wikipedia, she has ''no'' title (and why would she?), hence the "None."—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 01:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Navigation Boxes? ==
 
{{XNX|text=Does anyone know what happened to Xion's navigation boxes? They just dissappeared. I tried to fix it, but they keep getting put into the gallery and hide. Could someone fix it, please?}}
 
== Voice ==
 
 
{{OotL|text= When Xion changes into Sora does she still have a girl voice or does it change to Sora's voice? Just curious}}
:She retains her original voice. She just changes appearance. On a side note, hearing Sora speak in a girl's voice is the craziest mental image I've ever gotten. [[User:JudgmentDay95|JudgmentDay95]] 20:32, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 
 
{{Template:Ninabean|time=05:34, 21 August 2009 (UTC)|text=Well in the first game he did kinda have a girly voice^^}}
{{JudgmentDay95|time=13:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)|text=Good point. I guess every dude sounds a bit like a girl before they hit puberty.}}
 
== Aster tataricus ==
 
Anybody know where　I can find the newest ''Days'' interview (the one that talks about ''Aster tataricus'') in Japanese? I want to verify it, because of what I said on this page's history　[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Xion&diff=120635&oldid=120627 (”reword and remove the 100% wrong Aster tataricus note (the "shion" for this flower means "purple garden", and the Japanese name for forget-me-not is wasurenagusa.")].—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 19:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 
{{NinjaSheik|text=I do. Here it is~ http://heartstation.org/?p=1391.
 
If it's right, then, you'll have to put it back, okay?}}
:Aha! I knew it! Nomura said ''giving someone'' Aster tataricus means "I won't forget you" (the same way yellow roses show friendship). Not the forget-me-not flower. Crazy Heartstation :|—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 19:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
There's a need for an update. That interview in itself has confirmed and shown things that are now wrong in the article. For example, Roxas absorbing Xion. That wasn't the case. He just inherited her Keyblade.
 
 
== Not a Nobody ==
I noticed that that when you open the "nobodies" template thing it mentions Xion under Organization XIII. Considering the fact that Xion isn't a nobody do you think she should be taken off the template?--ShadowsTwilight 16:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:I would say yes. [[User:JudgmentDay95|JudgmentDay95]] 20:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 
she is sort of an organization member and we don't have a template for that on it's own.
 
== Sora.. OR Roxas? ==
There seems to be sufficient amounts of information in the secret reports to suggest that although Xion is full of Sora's memories, she is in fact a Replica of Roxas, not Sora. Has anyone else looked into this?
 
"The nobody of the hero, and that nobody’s replica, Xion."
-Day 276: The Other Side of the Truth (Axel)
 
It says in this article that she is absorbed by Roxas thats not true,she returns to Sora she even says so herself,i´ve seen the scene and she never is absorbed by Roxas she dissolves into many bits of light and shards of crystals/ice wich fly away-kaialone14
 
:Wait until the English version comes out before jumping to any conclusions. [[User:JudgmentDay95|JudgmentDay95]] 12:46 14 July 2009 (UTC)
{{ghostboy3000|text= PLEASE STOP CHANGNING THE TRIVIA}}
 
I thought Xion is Sora's imperfect Replica why its Roxas? I mean Xion have Sora's memories and his face. Cococrash11
 
Xion is Sora's Imperfect Replica not Roxas. Beside the Secret Report sometime isn't correct. You said the Secret Report in Day 276 Xion is Roxas's replica well look at Day 255: Final Stages Author: Xemnas it read "Xion's appearance should vary based on the relation of the viewer to her. Saïx sees her simply as a puppet. The Program approaches completion. Through Roxas, Xion is assembling '''a copy of the hero of the Keyblade'''. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes" Cococrash11
 
== Protection Is Necessary ==
 
{{JudgmentDay95|text=This page needs to be protected. There is too much vandalism running rampant.}}
 
== It? ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= While I was at camp, one of my new friends and I were discussing Kingdom Hearts, and the topic of Xion came up. She said there was something in the CoM Manga that the Organization kept refering to as 'It' Quote: 'I'm going to check on It... How is It? It's fine...' She always assumed It was Roxas, but now we think It is Xion. And Namine was in the room, so It's not her. So, is my friend right? or is It something else?}}
{{Firaga44|text=probably}}
{{JudgmentDay95|text=Considering the fact that Larxene and Marluxia were chowing down on chicken and soda in the manga, I say that It refers to their meal.}}
 
No, they were referring to Namine, as the idea of Xion hadn't even come up at the time of CoM.  Plus, Namine wasn't really in the room per se, more like the adjoining room. [[User:Key of Destiny|Key of Destiny]] 00:35, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Lefty! ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= OK, if you look carefully at the picture of Xion, you can see she has the keyblade in her left hand. Does that mean she's a lefty, or does she just carry the keyblade in her left hand? That be extremely cool if there is finally a left handed character! (considering the fact I"M left handed)}}
{{JudgmentDay95|text=Was Sora ever ambidextrous?}}
{{EO|time=23:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)|text=Only when Dual-Wielding. He was always Right-handed. All Keyblade wielders are, except Ven. If there is a connection between Sora and Ven, Xion probably got it from Ven, as she can take his form in the eyes of Xigbar. They are obviously connected, Xion and the Keyblade wielder from BBS...I'm sure of it.}}
{{Keyblader|text=Wait a minute- Xion takes the form of Ven in Xigbar's eyes, and she's an imperfect replica of Sora made from, or at least holding, his leaked memories... Ventus looks like Roxas, Sora's Nobody... 8/! Aw, jeez, Nomura's teasing us again!}}
Sephiroth is left-handed. --[[Special:Contributions/68.190.210.240|68.190.210.240]] 06:55, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
{{TNE|time=08:06, January 3, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=Get back to the subject, we're talking about Xion, Roxas, Ventus and Sora, not Sephiroth. And yes, if Roxas is ambidextrous, and Nomura says that Sora has all the similar abilities as Roxas (see Director's Secret Report XIII), then Sora '''''is''''' ambidextrous. 'Nuff said.}}
 
== Xion's True, True Name ==
Shouldn't it Say 'Sora Replica No. i'? After all, the replica of Riku is not called 'Riku', it's called 'Riku Replica'.
 
{{XNX|text= The term "Sora Replica" is ''never'' used or mentioned as a part of Xion's title. The name "Xion" was created as a way to keep her identity as a Replica secret from the game's characters, and from the audience. As for the "Riku Replica" thing, the Replica Project was established exclusively to make copies of Sora. My guess is that Riku Replica was an experimental test of creating a Replica out of data, and since they had no use for him, they brought him to Castle Oblivion to fuck with Sora and the real Riku.}}
 
== Stop in Confusion ==
 
When Xion died, the restoration of Sora's memories seized at once. But before she disappeared, she said she was going back to Sora. Does that mean she died instead of going back?
 
It's kinda confusing. And since she did not join with Roxas like the original version of the story, then that means Roxas has always been able to use the Keyblade, right?
 
[[User:Charmed-Jay|Charmed-Jay]] - September 25, 2009
 
:Yes, Roxas could use the Keyblade from the get-go. Xion's existence itself was halting Sora's memory restoration, because Roxas had unwittingly leaked the "key," Sora's memories of Kairi, into her. When Xion says she is "returning to Sora," she actually "returns to Roxas." Then Roxas can wield two Keyblades: Oathkeeper (his) and Oblivion (Xion's). Then Riku-Ansem drags Roxas to DiZ, Roxas and Axel play around in the digital Twilight Town, and eventually all of Xion's and Roxas's memories return to Sora.
 
:Bottom line: Sora, Roxas, and Xion are all the same person, and so their memories are all shared.
 
[[User:SavageLarxene011|SavageLarxene011]] 16:35, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Who created Xion? (Theory) ==
 
Now from what I read after beating the game, and unlocking the secret notes, it became obvious to me, that the creator of Xion was Vexen. He created Replica Riku, so could it be that Replica is No. 2? Maybe. If you notice, after about the first 3 entries for Xion, is a scientist speaking. Sounds like Vexen to me. And then he stops, as if as soon as Xion was finished, Vexen was disposed of, since the Organization could now control her themselves. It is just a thought, and I still need to check if the diary entries line up with the people at Castle Oblivion getting destroyed work together. I will just have to check. But all in all, I think this is a rather probable theory. Who agrees?
--[[User:Sylint19|Sylint19]] 01:33, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
:Um, yeah? It's not exactly a revelation that Vexen created "No. ''i''". And Vexen was disposed of for various reasons by Axel. None of them relating to what Xemnas wanted. His death was an inconvenience because he was supposed to personally monitor Xion. [[User:Interobangu|Interobangu]] 08:45, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
::Also, when Xion fades, she sort of '''freezes''', or turns into ice/crystal things. It seems like Vexen created her from Ice/crystal, or at least that's what I think :P - '''[[User:Xiggie|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=blue>Ice</font>]][[User talk:Xiggie|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=dodgerblue>boy</font>]]''<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Xiggie|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=paleturquoise>Svalur!</font>]]</sup>''''' 08:52, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
Either Vexen or Xemnas created her altough im pretty sure its Vexen.[[User:D.Dark.|D.Dark.]] 17:51, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
::Vexen created her under Xemnas' orders. She was made from Sora's memories, the basis of her body. Born w/ a blank face, she only grew to look like Kairi as Sora's memories flowed into her. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 19:23, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 
==Xion/Roxas Relaitionship? ==
 
So, I have a few points I'de like to make:
 
Xion is made from Sora's memorys of Kairi.
Kairi has romantic feelings for Sora.
So, Xion might have harboured romantic feelings for Sora had they ever met.
Roxas is Sora's nobody.
So is it possible Xion harboured romantic feelings for Roxas?
And since Roxas is Sora's nobody, and Sora has romantic feelings for Kairi, he could like her back.
 
The one flaw I see in this theory is that Sora may not have known Kairi had feelings for him atthe time of Xion's birth, so his memorys of her wouldn't contain that. I haven't played 358/2 days or read plot details from that, so I'm sorry if that contains information on the subject.-Coroxn-''The Lunar Brigade''
 
:While I suppose anything is possible, I don't recall any scenes from the game that would indicate that they were attracted to each other. Plus, Xion's gone now, so it kinda renders the whole thing moot. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 21:12, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 
You do know this is the equivalent of loving yourself, right? Xion's not even a true female.
 
== Replica of Roxas, and not Sora? ==
 
The article currently states that "Xion is an imperfect Replica of Sora." However, in the Secret Report for Day 276, it reads:
 
"As the Nobody of the hero of the Keyblade and the Replica of that Nobody, those two are special. Unique in every sense of the word. But that doesn't change the fact that we're friends. Nothing will. Got it memorized, Xion?"
 
The first sentence seems to imply that Xion is a Replica of Roxas, and not Sora. It is also stated in-game that Xion was meant to imitate Roxas's behavior. Also, she was not created from Sora's memories; she was created in the same fashion that Riku-Replica was, by Vexen, according to the Secret Report for Day 23:
 
"The Program is largely on target. No. i, my finest Replica, has proven an even greater success than anticipated. I intend to take the other vessel - judged unfit for number status - to Castle Oblivion, where I will subject it to further testing. One thing is clear: could these Replicas not be classified as a special sort of Nobody?"
 
The final sentence also suggests that Xion actually is a Nobody, contrary to what the article currently says.
 
[[Special:Contributions/75.27.230.249|75.27.230.249]] 22:46, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 
I thought Xion is Sora's imperfect Replica why its Roxas? I mean Xion have Sora's memories and his face. Cococrash11
 
Xion is Sora's Imperfect Replica not Roxas. Beside the Secret Report sometime isn't correct. You said the Secret Report in Day 276 Xion is Roxas's replica well look at Day 255: Final Stages Author: Xemnas it read "Xion's appearance should vary based on the relation of the viewer to her. Saïx sees her simply as a puppet. The Program approaches completion. Through Roxas, Xion is assembling '''a copy of the hero of the Keyblade'''. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes" Cococrash11
 
==Where did they came from?==
 
Where did they get Sora's memories to make Xion, since it seems she was born before he went to CO--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 08:56, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
:From what I have gathered from the story, Xion is getting the memories from Roxas.[[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 13:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 
==Inconsistency==
{{Template:ST|time=16:29, October 23, 2009 (UTC)|text=Ya know how when you add an ability unit to roxas' and xion's Zero gear, you get oathkeeper? Well don't you think it would be a little bit more consistent to that if roxas got oathkeeper and xion got oblivion (considering when roxas absorbed Xion, his keyblade became oathkeeper and hers became oblivion)}}
 
Xion was not absorbed by Roxas!! How hard is it to understand?! She ''specifically'' said that she is returning to Sora! Watch her death scene in English and you'll see. She doesn't return to Roxas, but SORA. Play the game, people. Getting your facts wrong is really getting old now.
 
:What do you mean being incorrect is "getting old now"? You make it sound like people are delibrately getting their facts wrong to annoy you. This may be surprising, but people make mistakes and you can correct them ''politely''. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 20:20, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 
Umm, because the game has been out for, what, a month now? I mean, come on. I'll admit that I was a bit rude and impolite, but I've been reading that incorrect statement for a long time now. And I'm probably not the only one getting annoyed by it, mind you. By the way, someone needs to unlock the editing for Xemnas so the info on Xion can be corrected.
:She says that, but she's a Replica of Roxas, not Sora, and he's the one that gains the Keyblade when she disappears. And, apparently the memories as well, since KH2 shows us that Namine still has to recover them from Roxas.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:25, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 
The thing is, when would the Organization have had time to make a replica out of Roxas? She joined right after he did. And another thing; she has Sora's memories. She DID absorb Roxas' powers, but it was through him that she had access to Sora's powers. How would she be able to absorb someones power when they're sleeping? Through Roxas she was able to do that. And Namine still needs to recover the memories from Roxas because he is Sora's Nobody and naturally has Sora's memories through the relapses. NOT A REPLICA OF ROXAS. She was supposed to absorb the Keyblade heros powers through Roxas. "Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade." -Xemnas, Day 255. Reading the Secret Reports should really help.
::Oh gosh, wow, I mean Vexen only created Riku Replica in the timespan of Sora climbing a floor or two, just by observing Riku once. It's so totally impossible he made Xion with the space of an ''entire week'', isn't it? Silly Nomura.
::Yes, and Nobodies are the ones who contain their somebody's memories. She took them from Roxas, he's the one who had them.
::If you want to be a smartass about the Secret Reports - they specifically say "The Nobody of the Hero of the Keyblade, and that Nobody's Replica". It's fucking explicit that Xion is Roxas's Replica, and only indirectly Sora's.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
Well, excuse me! So much for "you can correct people politely" from LapisScarab. You're not correcting me though, because you're wrong. I've played the game, so I think I know what I'm talking about. IF she was Roxas' replica, why would she fade back to Sora, loser? She had SORA's memories because Roxas didn't have Sora's memories. If you read Roxas' diary, he says that he doesn't remember his past life, which would be Sora. All I said was that reading the Secret Reprts should help-and I meant it in a nice way, dingbat. Just because Axel called her the Nobody's Replica doesn't mean anything. Xion belongs with Sora. Period. She is Roxas and Sora in a sense, but is Sora's imperfect replica regardless. Someone, PLEASE hear me out and help me against these annoying people!
 
:Umm, for the record, Mister Anonymous-Editor-Who-Doesn't-Sign-His-Comments, Mister KrytenKoro is correct. And, also for the record, this is coming from someone who has played through 358/2 Days and read all of the Secret Reports: myself.
 
:(Brace yourself for a wall of text.)
 
:Xion wasn't ORIGINALLY supposed to be a Replica of Roxas. Don't argue with that, because Nomura said it in an interview. My understanding is that Xemnas, Xigbar, and Vexen collaborated on a project to replicate Sora based on the memories Xemnas sampled in KH:FM. After all, they DID need a Keyblade-wielder to collect hearts for them. However! Their plans changed somewhat when Roxas came about. He was unexpected, and they decided to make use of their situation so they would have two Keyblade-wielders working for them. Vexen created two empty Replicas, and the first was inducted into Organization XIII as Xion. At that time, Xion wasn't a Replica of anyone. However, as she spent more time around Roxas, she began to replicate him. You see, she was designed to become a Replica of Sora, but because she was never exposed to Sora (except indirectly through Roxas), she became a Replica of Roxas instead. This is why when Roxas weakens, Xion grows stronger, and vice versa. Sora is unaffected because (one) he is asleep and (two) Xion is replicating Roxas, not Sora. The only reason Xion needed to recombine with Sora was because she was inadvertently absorbing Sora's memories of Kairi using Roxas as a medium. Because she was originally intended to essentially become Sora, she was like a Sora-Memory-Magnet, if you will. So Roxas has no idea who the heck Sora is, other than some guy wearing red clothes, but Xion starts getting these random memories from Sora. She even remembers fighting Axel in Castle Oblivion. But, I digress. Your other point is that Xion said she was going to "rejoin with Sora." Yes, she did say that, but she wasn't able to join with him just then. Roxas happened to be more closeby than Sora was (and I think it also has something to do with Roxas managing not to forget about her immediately), so her entire existence (which was only made up of memories) went to Roxas instead of Sora. Although, it is also arguable that Xion considered Roxas and Sora to be the same person at that point, since she does later say "I am you, in the same way that I am Sora." Regardless, she merges with Roxas, and that is why Roxas can wield two Keyblades: Oathkeeper and Oblivion. Had she merged with Sora and not Roxas, she would not have been able to speak to Riku through the Oblivion Keyblade. Plus, the only reason Sora couldn't wake up was because he didn't have his memories of Kairi, Xion did. Roxas never had any memories of Kairi until KH2, because he had merged with Xion. DiZ needed Roxas once Xion was gone, because Roxas had absorbed Xion's being, and those precious memories of Kairi, into himself.
 
:That, my friends, is the tragic tale of a Replica known as Xion. Got it memorized?
 
[[User:SavageLarxene011|SavageLarxene011]] 00:42, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
::To the anon: If you're going to bitch and act patronizing, I'll do it back.
::She didn't, in any way, fade back to Sora. The memories she had of Sora went to Roxas, as seen in KH2. Her memories went to Roxas, as seen when Riku gets the shock from the Oblivion. Her powers went back to Roxas, as seen with Roxas getting the Oblivion. So your basic argument is "I totally played the game! It doesn't matter what the game actually says! Everyone but me is stupid!" Well, that's nice for you. Take your nonsense elsewhere, please.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:57, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 
I'm not going to argue this anymore because, for one, I'm badly outnumbered. Which really sucks. Makes it a lot harder to have a debate when you're stuck with the wrong people. It would help if another brain could make a few points I haven't already attempted to make. When was I patronizing? That didn't make any sense. Still, despite everything written above, I'm still not convinced. When did Nomura confirm that she was Roxas' replica? Last time I checked, that wasn't the case, but whatever. Nomura did confirm that Roxas influences Sora, and Xion influences Roxas. They have a yo-yo effect. She was getting Sora's powers through Roxas because he had those same powers. The flashback Riku had was indeed carried about by Xion through Roxas. Regardless, that doesn't change my views. Why did she have Sora's memories? She was created a memory being. Namine confirmed that returning to SORA would mean she would be forgotten by everyone. At one point in the game, Axel says to think of Xion as a mirror that reflects Roxas, but when Axel 'looked' in the mirror, he didn't see Roxas. He saw Sora. Why did Roxas see her as Sora, when according to you, he should have seen himself. That's the impression I get from you. She had Sora's memories. The crystals that left her body didn't go into Roxas, but the air. And in the end, it doesn't really matter because she is Roxas the same way that she is Sora, as she herself confirmed at the end of the game. It makes me feel better to know that not everyone doesn't have the same mindset as you, and therefore, there are others bound to believe me and/or feel the same way. I don't plan on hopelessly arguing anymore anytime soon, (unless you decide to call me plenty of other names. At least I am more respectful than the lot of you)so, as of now, good riddance.
:''Play the game, people. Getting your facts wrong is really getting old now.'' So, yeah, you're the one who brought in the whole "annoying as fuck patronizing crap". You're not "more respectful than the lot of us", you're just more melodramatic. Get over yourself.
:Just because Xion is the Replica of Roxas doesn't mean that she has to look like him. After all, she's not the Replica of Kairi or Ventus, but she looks like them at times. It has to do with who's looking at her and what memories she has absorbed - and she's absorbed Sora's memories, which ''belong to Roxas'', same as with all Nobodies.
:Roxas HAD Sora's memories, just as the other Nobodies have their somebody's memories. Xion took them, however.
:You used annoying patronization to tell us to "read the Secret Reports", and then ignore the one actual claim within them of who she is a Replica of? What kind of twisted-ass logic is that?
::"As the Nobody of the hero of the Keyblade and the Replica of that Nobody, these two are special." And this is coming from the one living being with direct contact with active Replicas.
::In fact, to follow up: "But now, as I get stronger, Roxas keeps getting weaker. I shouldn't exist anymore." The implication is heavy that her existence is linked to ROXAS, not so much Sora. Her only real relation to Sora is that she has been sponging his memories, not his powers and being (like the Replica Riku tried to do with Riku).
:Xion returned to Sora, in the end, through ROXAS. That's the whole plot of the first week as Roxas, in KHII. He finally has all the memories he was supposed to have, so Namine can put him back together with Sora.
:The "crystals that left her body" were ice. She even starts refreezing. Vexen made here, she's made of ice. She basically shattered, liberating the stolen memories back to Roxas.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 
You are definately wrong about the ice. It's crystals. Vexen did not make her out of ice, that's just bull. Get over this stupid arguement. In the end, she is Roxas and Sora. Good enough for you? Now shut up and leave me alone. GOOD-BYE. (At least now I know never to comment on these blasted discussion pages ever again.)
:...1) Ice is a type of crystal; 2) VEXEN made her, and she makes a freezing sound when she transforms back and shatters, why would it be anything about ice; 3) If you're absolutely unable to back up your argument, the patronizing just makes you look like an ass.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:00, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Coak and chest ==
 
Is it just me or should Xion’s cloak be noted further. In all her appearances when her hood was up she’s the only one who has ever had her chest shown. Everyone else has always had the collar covering their chest when the hood was up. Sooooo?--[[User:Nanohano|Nanohano]] 00:27, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Cutscence  ==
 
Do you know the Snarl of Memories Cutscence? Did Roxas experince that if he didn't he should and whats the point of that cutscence?. Cococrash11
 
== Xion's creation ==
 
{{Xemwath|text=Wasn't the battle between Xemnas and Sora in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix the battle where Xemnas gathers Sora's memories to create Xion?}}
{{EO|time=15:34, November 7, 2009 (UTC)|text=Yes. Then when Sora fell asleep, his memories were lost, and Xion became the Kairi look-alike rather than that hooded, faceless puppet.}}
 
==Sora or Roxas?==
 
Can someone please tell me who's Xion is a replica of, Sora or Roxas? I played the game and Xion was said to be a replica of Sora, not Roxas. She was meant to absord Roxas to become the real Sora. Tell me with proof and specfic details.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:46, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
:"As the Nobody of the hero of the Keyblade and the '''Replica of that Nobody''', these two are special. Unique in every sense of the word. But that doesn't change the fact that we're friends. Nothing will. Got it memorized, Xion?"
:Aside from the explicitly explained, there's the fact that everything Xion has of Sora's is supposed to be Roxas's, ex: memories. This is made evident after Xion fades, and Roxas regains his power and memories of Sora. Xion is only ever said to be affecting Sora in that Namine can't find some of the memories - it's never said she took them directly from him. Given that Roxas also has the memories, and according to lore he's supposed to have pretty much ''all of them'' (CoM Sora was apparently using Kairi's shared memories with Sora, which works since he had her heart for all of KH1), and then given that Xion's nature is specifically said to make ROXAS's continued existence impossible, not Sora's (Sora will just "never wake up" because his memories are not returned - Roxas will completely cease to be), it's pretty clear that Xion is Roxas's replica. Besides, you know, the game outright saying it.
:In short: Xion is not at all a Replica of Sora, her only connection to him is those memories of his that she has leeched from Roxas. She is a Replica of Roxas.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:54, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
Okay. But, when in the game it said that Xion is Roxas's repilcia and not Sora's? I think I understand your explaintion. I think that's why Xion took the form of Sora at the end of the game, because she had Sora's memories. But then again, I already knew that.
 
Anyway, can someone answer my question?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:57, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
:That, um, the part that I highlighted.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:29, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
I rather go to a direct link, but okay. Thank you.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:34, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
::Oh! I thought you just wanted the quote. That part is in the Secret Reports.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:43, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
Thanks.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:53, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Xemwath|text=Then why did Xion started to look more like Sora towards the end when she was getting stronger?}}
:...for the same reason that she looked '''like Kairi''' for the rest of the game?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:50, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 
::i think '''THAT''' might be more of a question of why Roxas does NOT look like Sora than why Xion does --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 00:53, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 
Okay now that we know she was a replica of Roxas why does it say in the article that she was created by Sora's leaked memories.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 00:11, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:She was created initially from Sora's leaked memories when Sora encountered Xemnas is KHI. However, she is Roxas's replica due to the way she absorbed memories of Sora ''through'' Roxas. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Antagonist ==
 
If I have to readd this again, I'll be really pissed. People who slept through high-school shouldn't be trying to correct others on literary terms.
 
To clarify:
 
ANTAGONIST: a person who is opposed to, struggles against, or competes with another; opponent; adversary.
 
By being an (accidental) threat to Roxas's existence, and then attacking him, and specifically plotting with Namine and Riku to end his existence to save Sora, and then (if that really is Xion speaking, and not Namine) telling Riku that Roxas "must be stopped" she is EXACTLY his principal antagonist. She is most directly acting against him - not even the masterminds behind her creation do so much, as Xemnas was at several points either saying "It's okay to have two" or "I give up on Xion, save Roxas for me." Xemnas is a minor antagonist in this game, and Riku/Namine/DiZ are perhaps the only rivals for Xion's spot - and AGAIN, Xion has a much more active role in acting against Roxas.
 
This isn't hard, people, you just have to know what the f*** you're even talking about. Antagonist in NO WAY means "the bad guy of the story" - it can even be the good guy, such as in THIS GAME.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Silver|text=If i remember correctly, Xion wasn't plotting with Namine and Riku to end Roxas's existance. She was trying to return back to Sora. And by doing so, she would be ending her existence and saving Roxas.}}
::Umm, no, not actually. She wasn't doing it to save Roxas, she was doing it because "that's where she belonged". She knew full well that they planned to return both her AND Roxas to Sora, and she went along with it, probably because it was better than the alternative (erase her best friend completely, and then be used in a plot to take over the universe).[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 
I thought Xion and Roxas are friends? Cococrash11
:Yes, and Sora and Riku were friends, yet Riku still managed to put that aside to do what he thought he needed to.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:28, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 
Sorry, Xion actually was trying to save Roxas from Xemnas by returning to Sora, saving him from being erased, and at the same, going to back to where she belonged. Two birds, one stone. She asks Axel to protect Roxas from Xemnas. Is that what you mean by not trying to save Roxas? Doubt that. And yes, she does return to Sora. In an interview, Nomura confirmed that a "small" part of Xion remained inside of Roxas that wants to stop him from coming into contact with Kingdom Hearts because she sees that Roxas will most likely lose against Xemnas. Hence the "small." If she WAS absorbed by Roxas, acording to 'some' people, all of her essence would be inside of him. Which she wasn't. Like when Roxas returned to Sora, you could SEE the crystals go into Sora; when Namine returns to Kairi, you can SEE the crystals go inside of her. Known of this "Oh, my crystals are floating in the air, but you won't see them go into Roxas out of nowhere because that's after the cutscene!" Umm, no. She specifically said she was going back to Sora, and that's exactly what she did. Xion did not contradict herself. While Xion wants Roxas to free Kingdom Hearts, she knows he's not ready yet. None of this "planning to end Roxas' existence." Namine did say that in the end, their fates were to return Sora's memories and completely fade from existence, but she wasn't plotting against him. Nomura confirmed that as well. Just like Xion wasn't plotting against Roxas when she's trying to save him. She can kind of be considered an antagonist, (in the sense that her existence puts him in danger) but she was never against Roxas. When she attacks him, (another thing Nomura confirmed)she is feeling that she has no choice but to play along with Xemnas' plan, but knows that Roxas must defeat her.
Finally, Xion is not a replica of Roxas. Sorry to break it to you, but she's not. Nomura confirmed that the Replica Program was started before Roxas even joined the Organization.
"Originally Vexen was working privately to advance the research on Replicas, but for the Organization's goal of completing 'Kingdom Hearts of people's hearts' they needed to use the Keyblade to recover hearts, so they switched to this plan of copying the Keyblade hero."-Nomura
When Axel said "that Nobody's replica" he's meaning that Xion is made primarily to absorb Roxas' power and evolve. To think of Xion as a mirror that reflects Roxas, but when Axel looked in the mirror, he didn't see Roxas. Also, Nomura confirmed that Riku saw the 'true nature' of Xion's face at Beast's Castle, resulting in him telling her to leave the Organization. But in the bigger picture, it is actually "through Roxas" that Xion is assembling a copy of the Keyblade hero, as confirmed by Xemnas in the Secret Report. Arguing with that is like arguing with Nomura; which you can't really do and be successful afterwards.
:''"But rather than saying she was initially created to imitate something, it's more like she was a special case, born primarily to absorb Roxas' powers and evolve."''
::That is pretty basically saying that Xion is a Replica of Roxas. Yes, they started the program before Roxas joined, and yes, it was originally intended to be used on Sora. However, that's not how it turned out.
:''"This was less due to her doing missions together with Roxas every day, and more due to using his Keyblade. She was able to once again copy his power."''
::Same here. Nomura says that Xion is copying Roxas's power, not directly Sora's.
:If Xion had fully absorbed Roxas, he would be completely erased, as Xion was. Not simply returned to his true self, as seen in the KHII finale, where he still possesses some self. Yes, it was the best possible outcome. However, KHII and Days make it clear that this is not something Roxas wanted to go along with, and as such that qualifies as her acting against him.
:''"Even though in the end both of their fates was to return Sora’s memories and disappear forever, on day 356 she said to Namine “I think things will soon be difficult for Roxas.” Until that time came, she wanted Axel to protect him from Xemnas. "''
::This seems to verify that Xion knows that the ultimate goal is to return Roxas to Sora as well.
:"Just like Xion wasn't plotting against Roxas when she's trying to save him."
::I apologize for the unclear wording, but what I was trying to communicate is that Xion was planning to go against Roxas's will, and to force things against his will. The running away in the first place, upsetting the order of the Organization, is already a big step in this - her meeting with Riku and Namine to plan the eventual return of her memories to Sora also constitute plotting to go against Roxas's will. I did not mean to connotate that Xion was trying to ''hurt'' Roxas, or that she was evil.
:''"First, the reason why Roxas throws a keyblade to Riku, and we then see a vision of Xion, is that there is a small remaining part of Xion in Roxas '''that wants to stop him''', and makes him take those actions."''
::The main thrust here is that Nomura is pretty clearly saying that there was at least a part of Xion trying to stop Roxas. Ergo, she is an antagonist, so that part of the question is solved.
::For the second part - this is a very rough claim to make, especially considering that this is translated material, but what Nomura is saying is small is ''the part that wants to stop Roxas'' - he doesn't appear to actually be contradicting that Xion went back to Roxas.
:''"Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. "''
::To be fair, though, this seems to put down my claim that Roxas absorbed Xion's Keyblade.
:"Like when Roxas returned to Sora, you could SEE the crystals go into Sora; when Namine returns to Kairi, you can SEE the crystals go inside of her. Known of this "Oh, my crystals are floating in the air, but you won't see them go into Roxas out of nowhere because that's after the cutscene!" Umm, no."
::I may be misremembering, but the Namine/Roxas > Kairi/Sora seemed to actually involve pure light and sparkles ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNu7_pBUUuc&feature=related] at about 1:13), while Xion's breaking explicitly involved her body turning to ice (or "crystal", if you prefer), and shattering. That, along with her ''not actually being a Nobody'', indicate that there's no reason she should follow their rules exactly.
::Then, there is the important fact that Namine's memory retrieval ''from Roxas'' had stalled until after Roxas defeated Xion. I suppose it's possible that Namine could have finished the memories without Roxas's involvement, but the fact that the memories are apparently channeled ''through'' Roxas strongly implies that he was in fact the one who currently had them.
 
In short - Nomura explicitly says that Xion is copying Roxas's powers, and that Xion is on a balance of power with Roxas. While at core the two are using ''Sora's'' memories and power, I think it's clear that Xion is indirectly accessing them through Roxas. While he only explicitly confirms it being a small part, he does confirm that Xion has partially gone into Roxas.
 
Unless we drastically misunderstand what a Replica ''is'', this "copying of a person's powers" seems to be the defining feature. Xion indirectly copies Sora, yes, but she is explicitly said by Axel to be Roxas's Replica, and Nomura confirms that she is copying Roxas, even if it is a way to indirectly copy Sora.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:28, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
Exactly. Nomura does confirm she is copying Roxas, but (as Xemnas confirmed)it was "through Roxas" that Xion is assembling a copy of the Keyblade hero. Axel is referring to the fact that she's that "mirror" that reflects Roxas; she is copying his power. (But when Axel looked in the mirror, he didn't see Roxas. We can infer he saw Sora.) Also, Nomura only said a small piece of Xion remained inside of Roxas. Symbolically speaking, I think that might be something to the seashell left behind after she faded, but that's just a personal opinion. Not a fact, so please don't take it the wrong way. She, as confirmed by Nomura, was trying to protect Roxas by trying to stop him, because she knows that he will most likely lose. That isn't really antagonistic. Nomura confirmed that Xion wants Roxas to free Kingdom Hearts, but DOESN'T want him to face Xemnas right now. Anyway, the point of the matter is, she is an indirect Replica of Sora AND Roxas; not really one more than the other. According to Xion, she is Sora and Roxas in the same way. This much I concede to.
 
{{NitrousX|text=This has gotten SEVERELY off-topic. I'll probably get yelled at for this (since I was the last time I brought this up) but I'm going to voice my opinion anyway. Xion isn't the main antagonist. She's trying to protect Roxas (the main character), not hurt him. She just wants to go back to Sora, she's not trying to destroy Roxas at all.}}
 
{{Keyblader|text=I agree with Nitrous. The only possible way that Xion could be considered an antagonist is when her head gets reprogrammed by the remainder of Organization XIII and she attacks Roxas in her transformed state (the Four Forms of Xion). Seeing as she wasn't consious of herself at the time, nor (if you want to interpret it as if said brainwashing never happenned,) did she want to hurt Roxas in the first place, merely explaining that she chose that time to "return" to Sora, this wouldn't put her as an enemy against Roxas, and therefore does not fall under the definition of the word.}}
{{EO|time=21:30, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|angry=She's good for half the story, sub-evil for the other. Put it under "Neutral" and get it over with. I all ready did so, but still. Commit it to memory.}}
:That's not what "Antagonist" ''or'' "Neutral" means. Antagonist != evil, Protagonist != good, and Neutral != "Sometimes good, sometimes bad".
*Antagonist: ''anyone'' who gets in the protagonist's way. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO "HELP" HIM. In effect, '''anyone who serves as a boss is at least a temporary antagonist''', unless it is explicitly a friendly bout.
*Protagonist: ''anyone'' who the story shows the POV of. (Ex: If Mission Mode showed the POV of Xemnas, he would be a protagonist.)
*Neutral: Anyone who ''does not take sides''.
 
''Switzerland'' is neutral. Russia is not. ''Moogles'' are neutral. Riku is not.<br />It is really annoying when basic literary terms like these get misinterpreted all across the wiki, and they need to be corrected.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:15, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
{{NitrousX|text=Okay, Okay! No need to get angry.}}
 
== Xion's possible future appearance==
 
I have a theory about Xion appearing in the future game. It start like this do you remember a scene when Kairi restore Heartless Sora to his original self. Which makes me thinks Kairi use some of her body and soul to Sora. Why do you think Sora can still have a body and move? If Sora becomes a Heartless again and Roxas will be reborn with Kairi's body and soul and somehow use its parts to revive Xion. Xion’s heart or mind can be transfer to Kairi’s body and soul and become Kairi’s new Nobody. Cococrash11
:This makes very little sense. And sounds very fanfic-esque. Stop with this, it clutters up these pages.[[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 20:54, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Xienzo|time=00:31, December 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=Roxas absorbed her. I don't think he knows how to unabsorb her. Wait, is that even a word?}}
==Height Trivia==
 
OK, whoever placed this in trivia: "Xion existed for nearly a year and yet she remained the same height like most of Organization XIII (1 to 12) and unlike Roxas and Namine." should have considered it first. If you actually pay attention to the game, you'll notice that Naminé and Roxas seem to be pretty much the same height they were in KHII. This is due to the impracticality of implementing several character models at differing heights for the characters throughout the games. So we can assume that Xion did grow ingame, as she remains pretty much the same height in proportion to Roxas throughout the game. So unless someone can back up this trivia, I'm removing it. Also, 1 to 12 have already reached full maturity (with the possible exception of Zexion), and so won't grow anyway. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:53, November 23, 2009 (UTC) PS: If Xion did ''not'' grow, we can maybe attribute that to her being a Replica instead of a Nobody.
 
==Weird Sister concept==
Xion's whole 'shapeshifting' shtick may have been based on the 'eye of the beholder' concept seen in Gargoyles, a Disney animated series. In that show, there were a trio of Oberon's children known as The Weird Sisters, a trio of identical looking shapeshifting deities only distinguishable from each other by their hair color. Their default form was that of adult women in white robes, but they can appear in different forms at once depending on the eye of the beholder. To the Gargoyles, they usually appear in the default form, but to others, they can appear as kids, hags, business women, etc. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 17:56, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
 
You watched Garogyles!?! I LOVE THAT SHOW SINCE I WAS A KID!!! A few months ago, I feel sad since I missed it so much and I watch it on YouTube with my sister!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:15, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Why Can't Anyone Remember Her? ==
 
{{LOMI|Ghost=I'm confused as to exactly ''why'' no one can remember Xion: what is it? When Namine and Roxas disappeared, couldn't everyone still remember them? I need some help understanding this}}
 
Because she was purely composed of memories, so when Roxas absorbed her....yeah. You should also keep in mind that she is not a Nobody, but a Replica.[[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 17:19, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
{{LOMI|Ghost=So, because she was memories inside a container (basically) when the container was broken the memories went back to where they belonged and the memories about the container ceased to exist: is that correct?}}
 
{{Fawhad|text=Thats basically it. She is merely a puppet and has no memories of her own. Her memories are the leaked ones of Sora. One thing I dont understand; After Xion is defeated, Roxas says "Who are you.. again" to Xion, but almost after she dies, he says "Xion!" and "Who else will I have Ice-cream with?" so he still remembered her after she died? So is Roxas like; the only one who remembers her?.. And Im pretty Sure Saix and Xemnas do because after she dies they are seen talking about her.. Correct me if I'm wrong in any part of that..}}
 
{{NitrousX|xmastext=Well, Roxas' memories of her started to disappear when she began the absorbtion process, but seeing her like that jogged his memory. Unfortunately, after he had completely absorbed her, the memory loss began again. I'm not sure about Saix and Xemnas, but I would doubt that they'd be able to remember her. On the other hand, there are multiple records of Xion's existance that might jog someone's memory about her.}}
 
Well, you might also think that Riku of all people would remember her, yet we see that his memories are fading during the fight with Roxas (the staticky screen, etc.) and Roxas struggling to remember her name as well.  So, I 'd think that Xemnas and Saix eventually did forget about her, just not immediately after her death. [[User:Key of Destiny|Key of Destiny]] 00:39, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
== xion is a HEARTLESS ==
 
if you've played kh 358/2 days, or have the book it shows her as a heartless thing at he end. so xion is a HEARTLESS.
 
:Obviously ''you'' haven't played Days because you're completely wrong, she's nothing of the sort. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku Kuroofangu]] 17:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
:Whoever said that Xion is a Heartless must've been really hit hard on the head. <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#2A52BE">Agi Idup</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">Agi</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#71A6D2">Ngelaban !</font>]]'''</big> 08:08, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
: She is NOT a Heartless. Her being shown like that were forms that were caused by the little silver machines you place in different areas during some missions. Xemnas also has different forms, but that does NOT make him a Heartless either. Marluxia had the same thing in RE:COM. Seriously, get your facts straight. Saiyoku[[Special:Contributions/68.52.96.72|68.52.96.72]] 04:41, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
Yeah, seriously.  The truth is: THAT'S why Saix kept referring to Xion as an "it", because technically, Xion truly is genderless.  Xion appeared as Kairi, Sora,  Ventus, Riku, IT does not have a true gender.  Xion is a Replica, and I'd assume that's what a "true" Replica looks like, maybe before they are given an "identity" or what they might look like "under" their original's face?  [[Special:Contributions/24.107.114.98|24.107.114.98]] 03:45, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Axel has his own fight music?? ==
According to the article, ''"Xion is one of five Organization members to have her own battle theme. The other four members are Roxas, Xemnas, '''Axel''' and Marluxia."''
 
Um, what? Axel never had a boss theme of his own, last time I checked. In CoM, he has "The 13th Struggle" just like every other Organization member... and in KH2, he has a different version of the same song, which he shares with Luxord.
:Correct. It should be one of '''four'''. <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#2A52BE">Agi Idup</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">Agi</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#71A6D2">Ngelaban !</font>]]'''</big> 00:54, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Xion's Earliest Appearance? ==
After playing [[Kingdom_Hearts_358/2_Days | 358/2 Days]], I went back to [[Kingdom_Hearts_II | KH2]] and noticed something familiar in the intro. I think Xion actually has a brief appearance in the intro movie of KH2. At about 2:20 there's DiZ and someone in a hood standing side by side, before the scene warps to Castle Oblivion. The more I look at the hooded figure, the less it resembles Riku... and it wouldn't make sense to me for that to be Roxas, either. Anyone else have any impressions on this? [[User:Digital Ronin|Digital Ronin]] 01:55, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
:It's Riku. The main reason why you have DiZ and the hooded figure is because by then, Riku had taken the appearance of Xehanort's Heartless. It's not Xion. <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#2A52BE">Agi Idup</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">Agi</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#71A6D2">Ngelaban !</font>]]'''</big> 02:04, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
There is also a hooded personafter the scene of Sora fighting against the heartless in Rising Falls is that Unknown or maybe it's Xion--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 21:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
{{Oddishh|text= I noticed something interesting in the Kingdom Hearts 2 Opening. In the beginning when Kairi is looking at her lucky charm, a sea-shell washes away into the sea. That sea-shell is similiar-looking to the one Xion left behind, so I believe that that sea-shell could represent everyone forgetting her and her fading, hence my theory Xion was planned early on.
 
A comparison can be found here:: http://i49.tinypic.com/19blw4.jpg .}}
{{TNE|time=00:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, the seashell makes reference to her. But whether or not she appears in KHII's intro, that's a definite no.}}
 
{{Oddishh|text= yeah. she wasn't in the intro. though the sea-shell made a reference to her. that was my point.}}
 
== Appearance in Birth by Sleep ==
 
From the secret ending from Birth by Sleep I saw in Youtube, should we put that she makes a minor appearance from it?
edit: I mean that she appeared in the secret ending, along with Roxas and Axel (not Lea).--[[User:Xsonicdragon|Xsonicdragon]] 22:59, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Alright. What hapenned here? ==
 
{{Rai|time=14:43, January 12, 2010 (UTC)|text= With "here" I mean the spoiler tags. Who put two of them in there? Or am I just going senile. One is at the top of the page, and the other one is under Story. And strangely enough, the first one ends there.
 
Anyone can clear that up?}}
 
what about riku?
 
 
Because if xion dies in his arms they must have SOMETHING and seriously, sora and kairi have nobodies so shouldnt riku?
 
 
And wtf is that supposed to mean when riku says "im the biggest nobody of all"? is he still possessed by that darkness guy?
 
: Xion did not die in Riku's arms. She died in Roxas' arms after he defeated her. Xion was just unconscious after taking a lot of pain from the memories she has absorbed and transforming into Roxas, back to herself, Riku, and Sora, and then returning to herself again. Riku obviously had to talk with her so he was there either while that happened or right after and decided to help her. KH3 SPOILER WARNING!!!: Riku does find out he has a Nobody in KH3. No one knows who he is or anything like that, but that's all we know so far. Apparently when Ansem took over Riku's body, that turned him into a Heartless, thus creating a Nobody.
 
: Next, when Riku says "I'm the biggest Nobody of them all." then he is basically saying that he has much to atone for because he basically helped with the destruction of all the worlds and that he has as much as a crime for existing as a Nobody does, if not an even worse one. '''Saiyoku[[Special:Contributions/68.52.96.72|68.52.96.72]] 04:48, February 5, 2010 (UTC)'''
 
{{liekos
|time=05:16, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
|text=There has been no official mention at all about Riku's Nobody and KHIII - at least from what I've seen. No news sites have claimed anything like this. Please be sure your facts come from a reliable source.}}
 
== Xion is number 2 ==
 
Larxene ans Xion are not the first playable females; Larxene was the first and Xion was the second because she had to be unlocked, but Larxene was available from the begining.
 
== xion dieing [[User:Durrf9|Durrf9]] 02:50, February 25, 2010 (UTC) ==
 
i am sorry i know it's a very emotional moment but it just made me laugh when roxas said "who else will i have ice cream with?" she's dieing and the first thing that comes to mind is ice cream?! :)
 
The poor Nobody was in shock, he had killed his friend.{{User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Sig}} 23:48, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
:She's dying and Roxas' mind is so completely undeveloped that "friendship" = "ice cream" to him. You're supposed to think it's stupid, and feel bad about his mental state.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:36, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
::i disagree. i think it's a japanese thing, to make that kind of statement in this kind of situation. i think i've seen something like it before, though i can't remember where... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 01:44, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
not really KrytenKoro i never played days but for what i can tell Roxas only linked his friendship to ice cream cuz that what they did togetheras friends when they were not in missions{{User:Xabryn/Sig}}
 
i said i was sorry i tried not to laugh! [[User:Durrf9|Durrf9]] 02:50, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
it added my signature on the title XD!
 
{{Rossello|time=04:09, February 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I believe, and this is my personal opinion, that the ice scream is a symbol of friendship.}} {{Durrf9|time=19:39, March 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=i wonder how roxas cried?}}
 
== Xion in KH2 ==
 
{{VonFrank|text= I have noticed that Xion is in Kingdom Hearts II in one of Namine's Sketches. Here is the Sketch
[[File:Roxas Axel Xion Riku KH2.jpg| 200px | right |]]
and the scene from 358 2 Days that corresponds to the sketch
[[File:Roxas Axel Xion Riku 358-2Days.jpg| 200px | right |]]
It might not be her, but I think that it is. Who else could it be anyway?}}
 
 
Considering there's two of them, and one has blue hair, possibly Saix and Xemnas.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:57, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
:Meh, I think it's only bluish because of jpeg artifacts.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 23:41, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 
{{Template:ST|time=17:12, March 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=I was always under the inpression that the one on the right was xaldin because he seems to have his arms behind his back}}
 
@Kryten: There are too but one of them can't be see because of the Dark Corridor and i think that VonFrank can be right--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 18:13, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, but there's two of Xemnas and Saix too, which was my point.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:38, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
So, then, the two figures are Riku and Xion hooded.  Y'know, that could very easily be a picture of the mission in Days where Roxas chases after hooded Riku in Twilight Town with Axel, as  we see the four in a practically identical scene there (Axel and Roxas facing Xion and Riku)  [[Special:Contributions/24.107.114.98|24.107.114.98]] 03:49, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
The arm of the hooded figure is also blue unless Saix hair is so big at the point of cover his hole arm the hooded figure isn't Saix--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 22:22, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
:The one on the ''left'' has blue hair.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:45, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
This made me curious so I went back to check myself. Both figures have hoods on it's a clear solid black, also Nomura confirmed once
more recently that they had already agreed upon the creation of Roxas and KH2 that the influence for Roxas to leave the Org would be
a girl around his age. They created KH2 with that girl in mind and this is also why Days flows seamlessly into KH2, because Xion who
they created off of the girl idea giving her a back story and a face. This picture is VERY likely that scene and the reason both characters have hoods can be explained by Riku always wearing his hood and them not having a face for the girl yet during the creation of KH2.--[[Special:Contributions/24.7.239.218|24.7.239.218]] 23:38, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
== xion's boss form ==
 
i was just wondering whats up with xion's boss form?
:The horns, mostly, though I guess those ribbons point up too.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:39, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
no your confused i meant it looked weird.[[User:Durrf9|Durrf9]] 18:06, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
It may just be me but I think that some of Xion's design was based off of Twlight Thorn.
Mainly because they both share a nobody symbol on their faceless face, have slightly
similar arms, and they share almost the exact same scarf minus number and color.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.7.239.218|24.7.239.218]] 23:43, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
We also have a bit of Sora there (no surprise if you know what Xion is); Xion's wearing what looks like a jacket similarly styled to Sora's KH1 outfite, along with similar (pants?  (shorts?) and shoes.  Heck, Xion's boss  form seems to be pretty much Sora's physical shape but in different colors, and with a different face (Replica face)  [[User:Key of Destiny|Key of Destiny]] 03:54, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Xion and Roxas' Dual Wielding ==
 
Just thought I'd point out that in the Weapon section it says that Roxas gain's Xion's Keyblade after her death and thus is able to Dual Wield, but Nomura has already stated via interview that Xion's death "awakens" the ability within Roxas and that it was not her Keyblade. I'm not going to speculate, though I have a good idea, but this should be fixed.[[User:XYZach|XYZ.]] 05:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Duel weilding ==
 
The ultimania for BBS has confirmed that duel weilding Roxas uses Sora's and Ven's keyblades, not Xion's.
 
I'm just not gonna really bother with the Ultimania, really x: [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 22:50, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
WaitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAIT!  VENTUS'S Keyblade!?  I don't recall Ventus using the Kingdom Key!  His Keyblade is SIMILAR to the Kingdom Key, but not the Kingdom Key itself.  Now, if your point is that Xion's Keyblade originally belonged to Ventus, and thus IS Ventus' Keyblade, HOW then, would Roxas get Ventus' Keyblade, or rather, how would Xion, from whom Roxas received his second Kingdom Key, before it became Oblivion?  [[User:Key of Destiny|Key of Destiny]] 03:57, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Snarl of Memories ==
 
I don't think anyone touched upon it but this particular cutscene leaves a plothole. If everyone remembers, Roxas/Xion has a nightmare that takes places on Destiny Island. Roxas is standing at the shore while the bottom screen plays a snippet of Kairi catching Sora snoozing. The nightmare in question is the first confrontation between Riku and Zexion. While the nightmare is suppose to show a foreshadowing of some kind, the nightmare itself is a plothole because Sora had absolutely nothing to do with that cutscene. Why would Roxas/Xion be having this nightmare if Sora has never even met Zexion or even been to to fake Destiny Island? [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 20:24, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
:Xion is closely related to Castle Oblivion. I don't remember if she went there before or after the nightmare, but she was at least born there. It might be stretching to say she absorbed memories from the Castle itself, but it's something to think about.  --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 20:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
:Xion is connected to Sora very deeply and not to mention she's based off of sora's memories of kairi. Giving her two strong bonds to riku,and could be the reason Xion gained some of Riku's memories. Which also explains why Xion started to freak. The close proximity of Riku was to much for Xion who already had memories from 2 other people. So in her dreams the presence of Roxas and Riku in the real world caused an overload as Xion becomes confused on who she is leading to her nightmare. I might also add Xion did evolve to the point she could reflect sleeping memories, so it's very possible her evolution caused her to be able to briefly take in memories of people strongly connected to sora meaning riku.--[[Special:Contributions/24.7.239.218|24.7.239.218]] 23:31, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
Ah, the irony of how mysterious Kingdom Hearts is!  Even after the game has been played, and we think we know all the answers, we discover something: we don't.  There are still unexplained mysteries such as this for us to speculate on.  Will they ever be answered?  For one thing, will Xion appear in KH3 if it only exists in Sora's heart?  In all other terms, Xion is gone, yet was shown in BBS secret ending.  [[User:Key of Destiny|Key of Destiny]] 04:05, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Xion, an official member? ==
 
Some people here says that Xion isn't a member of Organization XIII, which is kinda a true.
 
But, if people at this site says she isn't a real member then why is she still listed as an Organization member here: http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Organization
 
Shes not a real member do people here say... So why haven't anyone on the site changed that yet?
 
Sign your comments please. Also, read what it says next to Xion's name in the list of members.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}16:30, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
how does xion turn into her boss forms
 
Sign your comments please, and I believe she uses the [[Organization XIII Device]]s somehow to transform.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}20:23, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
The machines that the org created pull the memories of sora from the worlds they're in and then
Xemnas made alterations to Xion's body that gave her the new armor form. While in that armor form
Xion is connected to the machines and all the sora memories from that world they collected are
downloaded into Xion.
Each memory gave her a new sora skill and changed her form. Eventually she
took in so many memories she became huge and incredibly powerful having Skills from Roxas,Ven,Sora,
and even having replicated Ven's keyblade now Dual wielding a replica keyblade of Sora's and Ven's but
overloaded with memories.--[[Special:Contributions/24.7.239.218|24.7.239.218]] 02:40, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
And yet, even though Roxas beat her/him/it, he couldn't beat Riku in the form of Ansem, Seeker of Darkness....how sad.  Oh well, "It's in the script!"  [[User:Key of Destiny|Key of Destiny]] 04:00, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
To be fair Xion didn't want to win and wasn't giving it her all, she was just trying to give Roxas enough of a push to get him to kill her. If Xion had wanted to she very well could have destroyed Roxas, heck she wouldn't even need to fight him because her very existence was killing him.
Also to be fair Rikunort isn't a weakling. Rikunort is the full combination of Riku's incredible dark powers which had grown vastly and AnsemSoD's incredibly large dark strength. I doubt Sora could even beat Rikunort until after Roxas gave back the power from Sora he took. --[[Special:Contributions/24.7.239.218|24.7.239.218]] 19:57, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Protagonist ==
 
{{Organization 13|inquisitive=Shouldn't Xion be in the Protagonist section of the sidebar too?}}
 
{{Dbdbz|time=18:24, January 17, 2011 (UTC)|text2= Well yea for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. Her, Roxas, and Axel are pretty much the main characters.}}
 
{{The Dark Master|dark=She is actually the main antagonist.She caused a lot of trouble for many characters and her existence proved dangerous to those around her.An antagonist is not neccesarily evil they are just some one who opposes the main characters in one way or another.}}
 
== Xion's hair ==


Xion's black hair could probably be a subtle reference to Vanitas, who also has black hair, and both are connected to Sora through Xion being made of his memories and Vanitas taking on Sora's appearance after Ven connected with Sora's heart.
But to me, it seems fairly obvious that Xion would qualify as trans (which, while still frustrating me that Nomura seemed to in some ways make her magical trans-ness the cause of her misery, does a lot to redeem her character arc by portraying her "good" ending as identifying as female).
I know she was given black hair by request, but the above reason is still possible.


It's possible that he already thought of that when the request was made and simply decided to let them take the credit.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 16:20, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
Is this fair to state in the wiki? If I found notable articles discussing it, could I add it?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
::That's solely opinion, and not allowed on the Wiki, as far as I'm concerned. We cover canon information, in which the Xion the story is concerned about is strictly female. Yes, she is intended to turn into Roxas/Sora, but this has nothing to do with her gender, in-universe or out. The furthest you could technically go is to say Xion's gender varies based on who looks at her, or how many of Sora's memories she has (enough to become a copy of him on Day 357). You could find the best fan-essay in the world, but adding "info" taken from such things goes completely against our policy here. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 22:07, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
::Definitely a can of worms, you're not wrong. It's tough because the "anatomy" of replicas isn't really covered. Are they created to be the body of a specific person before being given the memories, data, heart, etc. of the person inhabiting them to influence their structure? When we see "blank" replicas in 3 they are like mannequins, completely blank slates and presumably sexless. Based on that and her initial appearances in Days, I don't see Xion as really having a gender until she has an identity for herself at all, based on how Roxas ends up seeing her. And given that this series never really covers gender identity at all, whether for Xion or anyone else, it doesn't seem like a relevant topic for anything beyond fan discussion, how someone might resonate with similar struggles based on her experience's similarity to trans-related struggles, etc. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 00:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


== Xion's True Form ==
:I viewed Xion's struggle as coping and learning to accept her eventual reality that she would have to return to Sora and disappear from existence. She only appeared to Roxas as Sora for a few minutes. Trying to frame it as anything else, like a struggle with gender identity issues, comes across as reaching. If you think Xion's misery was due to anything related to gender, then I think you missed the point of ''Days'' entirely. If we can't even mention blatantly obvious stuff like the Elrena/Larxene and Lauriam/Marluxia connections on the wiki, then I don't see how linking to fan essays about how Xion's plight was actually about gender identity would be somehow okay. I thought we aren't really supposed to care about fan interpretation on very strict wikis like this, otherwise we'd be mentioning all the Sora x Riku stuff out there. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 02:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Her true appearance is that of a black-haired girl. She identifies as female, others refer to her as female, and no one ever questions otherwise. I really don't know what else to say. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::...no, Soroxas. Just...no. Read closer, and assume good faith. Also, for the record, we can't mention Lauriam/Marluxia because ''Nomura himself'' went to the trouble of saying Lauriam and Marluxia aren't the same people. That probably ties into what the Nameless Star said about becoming a completely different person, but still.
:::Rex -- to be clear, Saix ''consistently'' refers to her as "it", and then the bit with Xigbar starts referring to her as a him. It's not explicitly "about" the gender, but on a basic level Xion's drama is still about her feeling obligated to submit to another identity she doesn't truly identify with (one which is male, to the point that she ''specifically says'' "If you see somebody else's face...a boy's face"), while others try to treat her as just an "it", but then by the point of KH3 being encouraged to reclaim her "true" identity (one which is female). I'm not sure I would really call that a fan interpretation, because what I've just stated is plain fact -- the interpretation would be whether Nomura actually ''intended'' any of that, or whether it's all complete coincidence.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
:::Eternal: To be clear, I'd be talking about actual reputable articles, like something in let's say the NYT or famitsu, not fan essays on livejournal or tumblr. And I'm not asking to do a whole essay reinterpreting Days from a trans lens, but instead just state that Xion fulfills the criteria of being a trans character. Like, just that sentence, with a citation to a reputable article if necessary.
:::Then again, going back to the fan interpretation, it appears to also be offensive to some to state outright "Xion is trans" when her contrived scenario is so unlike the real struggle of people in the real world, so from that tack maybe it would be best to leave this out after all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::::"her contrived scenario is so unlike the real struggle of people in the real world" -- I agree with this I think. I can definitely see how some trans folks would resonate with Xion's struggle of identity, just as many identify with Roxas' struggle at individuality as well. But I don't think that's equivalent to say that she's technically trans simply given that it's never really covered or seen that way officially in the games. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 13:47, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


i know this might be a dumb quesiton but.. is hooded Xion Xion's true form? Hooded Xion doesn't have any facial features expet a nose and a mouth which means Xion hasn't gotten "its" face yet, someone please explain. Also, why is it that when i look at hooded xion's prite i can kind of see an eye socket form under the hood.. like its empty. is that jsut a shaodw or the real eyes?
== That chair was meant for Xion ==


{{LCCH|text=Her unhooded form is her true form. As for the empty eye socket thing, it's just a shadow.}}
Isn't that chair meant for Sora, and Xion is a replacement for Sora when they fail to commit him?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
:Who knows. I edited it for ambiguity. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 18:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
::That is my understanding as well. In KHDDD there was Master Xehanort, Xemnas, Ansem, Young Xehanort, Dark Riku, Vanitas, Terra-Xehanort, Xigbar, and Saix confirmed, so if you add in Luxord, Marluxia, Larxene, that leaves only one spot - I suppose Demyx was replaced by Dark Riku prior to the ending of KHDDD, and since Sora was intended as the 13th then it only makes sense that they would have used Xion as his replacement, as as replica of Sora's Nobody. ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 18:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC))
:::Nomura stated in the Ultimania that Demyx and Vexen were already benched as of KH3D, and Dark Riku was one of the twelve.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:02, 5 March 2019 (UTC)


== This speculation... ==
== KH3 hooded model ==


Is it so hard to just go with the author calling her a 'she'? this is the main problem with these stupid anime couple pairings, the author will match them the author knows what he is doing![[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 16:49, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
Can we please get some confirmation on this? I'm seeing conflicting accounts: [https://twitter.com/358_2days_xion/status/1176987856604020737 This post] is claiming her eyes are gold underneath the hood, but [https://www.deviantart.com/lexakiness/art/Xion-Kingdom-Hearts-III-XPS-812608307 this model rip] has her hooded model with blue eyes. Devil's advocate/flipside: Twitter post could be brightened up/altered in Photoshop, model rip could've been altered before uploading. ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 05:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
::Huh, I wasn't aware there was conflicting accounts about Xion's eyes. The user who added that bit was Reign, a regular and good contributor. Looking at the link from DA, I'm doubtful that model rip is from the game. The render looks fan-made. While it makes sense for Xion to have gold eyes since she is Xehanort's vessel, if there is a confusion, we should ask one of the users on the wiki who are skilled on retrieving renders and images from the game to assist on finding proof.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:30, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
:::The same user ripped 0.2 stuff that's being used by the wiki, so I'm erring on "yes, they can also rip official KH3 material". I actually did ask if the model was altered beforehand but didn't get a clear answer. ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 09:05, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
::::I guess the only way to find out is checking the game ourselves. I'm almost done with my Critical playthrough, so I'll keep it in mind once I reach the Keyblade Graveyard. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:55, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, ShardofTruth. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:00, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
::::Hehe, it pays to have compulsive extra saves! I have a save right at the start of the gauntlet. Gimmie about 30 minutes to run through, record and see what's up. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 20:59, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
:::::Sigh. So unfortunately, I think we're gonna have to write this one off as impossible to ascertain. [[https://imgur.com/a/6TSSOFs Check it out.]] That's the best in-game shot I could get where she wasn't obscured by a glow, and as you can see...nothing. Her eyes are totally obscured by the shadow effect. I could try a few more times, but I was lucky enough to get this shot. Maybe Shard might have better luck, but I think we should wait until a proper model is extracted before we decide anything. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 22:05, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


{{The Inexistent|text='''We call Xion not "she" for the reason that in the game, she turned into a "he" on several occasions.'''}}
Woohoo! There's been a development! While fiddling around in the game's Data Greeting mode, I can 100% confirm that hooded Xion's eyes are indeed gold! Will upload a picture later. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 18:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
:Actually, screw it lol [[https://i.imgur.com/vflxBck.png here it is right now]]. Cranked up the brightness and contrast, and voila. Gold eyes under the hood. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 18:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


{{The Dark Master|dark=Xion is a woman those times she transforms into a male are just false forms.She is based on the memory of Kairi so she is and all ways will be a woman.}}
== Xion's Ruse ==
{{Maggosh|nathan=Xion is an it.}}


{{The Dark Master|time=--[[User:The Dark Master|The Dark Master]] 02:00, January 23, 2011 (UTC)|dark=She is a woman.}}
So on Xion's page, it says, 'It is explained in her Secret Reports that this is somewhat of a ruse—she knows that Roxas will disappear if she continues to exist, so she plans to force Roxas to absorb her, saving himself and thwarting Xemnas's plan.' But after reading through Xion's secret reports myself, I can't seem to find a concrete source for that line (even though I'm well aware of it being what Xion had in mind). Am I missing something in one of the entries? --[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 04:20, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
{{Auror Andrachome|text= I only think of Xion as a figment of Roxas' imagination. I don't think she's real.}}
::I believe the current revision is incorrect in citing the Secret Reports as a source, instead I think a better source would be her final words; "It was my choice to go away now. I belong with Sora." seems to better illustrate that fact of her knowing and planning for Roxas to absorb her. I don't think there's any Secret Report of her outright saying that, but maybe it was referring to Day 352's where she recognizes Roxas and Axel forgetting her after she goes through with her plan. [[User:Pureautism|Pureautism]] ([[User talk:Pureautism|talk]]) 02:03, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
{{Chitalian8|time=02:42, January 24, 2011 (UTC)|text= Technically, "she" is an it, since she/it's a replica, an artificial organism. Same goes for Riku Replica. However, Xion is called "she" throughout the game, so that's what we use.}}


== Boss weapon rips? ==
== Xion as a replica of Roxas? ==


Is it possible for someone to get images of the swords Xion uses as a boss for the Weapons of the Organization page?
Is she really a replica of Roxas, not Sora? I know that one secret report by Axel is listed as a source, but we also get this from one of Xemnas' reports (day 255):


-Lycropath 5:43 PM (PST), August 08 2012
''Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes.''


== Not Important But Crystals ==
I understand the whole 'through Roxas' thing, but in the end, wasn't she made to be a replica of Sora, using Sora's leaked memories from Roxas?--[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 09:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


As the title says, this isn't especially important, & probably won't make it into the article, but since I've seen this crop up in several sections, I wanted to state my take on the "dissolving into crystals" thing: Roxas & Xion have the same element. In KH2, Organization members dissolve into their element when defeated. Since you never actually destroy Roxas, Nomura thought it would be neat to use Xion to show what that would look like for him. The "crystals" are light itself, hence why she turns into sparkles as she continues to break down.[[Special:Contributions/75.206.168.196|75.206.168.196]] 22:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:Seems fair enough, the game makes a point several times to say that she was intended to be a copy of Sora, but only due to being an imperfect replica did she gain her own identity. Granted there is that one secret report, but that's really the only bread crumb, other than that the game points pretty clearly to 'meant to replicate sora' rather than 'meant to replicate roxas'. There should be no problem editing the page to reflect this. [[User:Pureautism|Pureautism]] ([[User talk:Pureautism|talk]]) 10:59, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
::The Xion and who's she a replica has always been a subject of discussion, because of confusing it was (just look at the archives). Honestly, it still confuses me sometimes, but it was discussed with the community before and Xion being Roxas's replica with Sora's memories was what decided on after many debates.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 00:59, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
::... So, I can't change it to her being a replica of Sora, then? Because, although that may be the conclusion the community came to, her being a replica of Roxas just doesn't sound right.--[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 10:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
:::According to the English Ultimania, "she is a replica puppet modeled after Kairi from Sora's memories. The Organization created her to absorb Roxas's power as a Keyblade wielder."
:::And her KH3 journal entry states "She was an experimental replica used to siphon Sora's memories out of Roxas, and this allowed her to become a Keyblade wielder."
:::So it sounds like she's not really anyone's replica, but just absorbs Sora's memories and Roxas's powers. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:49, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

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So, as far as Kingdom Hearts III goes, rather than mention that Xion replicated Saix's Lunatic and fighting style several times, would we be able to instead mention Xion's ability to copy more vaguely in the Abilities section and then also include the Berserker in the Gallery under her weapons. It's interesting too because Xion didn't summon her replica Keyblade until Xemnas told her to kill Lea. It seems that it was because Xemnas reminded her of her past with Axel, but it's never really elaborated on. Also, Xion's face is not seen again until after she makes contact with Sora, which suggests that her Heart wasn't released from Sora until that point, but again, it's never really talked about. (Levi657 (talk) 17:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC))

Probably opening a can of worms here[edit]

But to me, it seems fairly obvious that Xion would qualify as trans (which, while still frustrating me that Nomura seemed to in some ways make her magical trans-ness the cause of her misery, does a lot to redeem her character arc by portraying her "good" ending as identifying as female).

Is this fair to state in the wiki? If I found notable articles discussing it, could I add it?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

That's solely opinion, and not allowed on the Wiki, as far as I'm concerned. We cover canon information, in which the Xion the story is concerned about is strictly female. Yes, she is intended to turn into Roxas/Sora, but this has nothing to do with her gender, in-universe or out. The furthest you could technically go is to say Xion's gender varies based on who looks at her, or how many of Sora's memories she has (enough to become a copy of him on Day 357). You could find the best fan-essay in the world, but adding "info" taken from such things goes completely against our policy here. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 22:07, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Definitely a can of worms, you're not wrong. It's tough because the "anatomy" of replicas isn't really covered. Are they created to be the body of a specific person before being given the memories, data, heart, etc. of the person inhabiting them to influence their structure? When we see "blank" replicas in 3 they are like mannequins, completely blank slates and presumably sexless. Based on that and her initial appearances in Days, I don't see Xion as really having a gender until she has an identity for herself at all, based on how Roxas ends up seeing her. And given that this series never really covers gender identity at all, whether for Xion or anyone else, it doesn't seem like a relevant topic for anything beyond fan discussion, how someone might resonate with similar struggles based on her experience's similarity to trans-related struggles, etc. LightSymbol Character - Roxas.pngRoxas 00:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
I viewed Xion's struggle as coping and learning to accept her eventual reality that she would have to return to Sora and disappear from existence. She only appeared to Roxas as Sora for a few minutes. Trying to frame it as anything else, like a struggle with gender identity issues, comes across as reaching. If you think Xion's misery was due to anything related to gender, then I think you missed the point of Days entirely. If we can't even mention blatantly obvious stuff like the Elrena/Larxene and Lauriam/Marluxia connections on the wiki, then I don't see how linking to fan essays about how Xion's plight was actually about gender identity would be somehow okay. I thought we aren't really supposed to care about fan interpretation on very strict wikis like this, otherwise we'd be mentioning all the Sora x Riku stuff out there. Soroxas (talk) 02:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Her true appearance is that of a black-haired girl. She identifies as female, others refer to her as female, and no one ever questions otherwise. I really don't know what else to say. Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 04:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

...no, Soroxas. Just...no. Read closer, and assume good faith. Also, for the record, we can't mention Lauriam/Marluxia because Nomura himself went to the trouble of saying Lauriam and Marluxia aren't the same people. That probably ties into what the Nameless Star said about becoming a completely different person, but still.
Rex -- to be clear, Saix consistently refers to her as "it", and then the bit with Xigbar starts referring to her as a him. It's not explicitly "about" the gender, but on a basic level Xion's drama is still about her feeling obligated to submit to another identity she doesn't truly identify with (one which is male, to the point that she specifically says "If you see somebody else's face...a boy's face"), while others try to treat her as just an "it", but then by the point of KH3 being encouraged to reclaim her "true" identity (one which is female). I'm not sure I would really call that a fan interpretation, because what I've just stated is plain fact -- the interpretation would be whether Nomura actually intended any of that, or whether it's all complete coincidence."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Eternal: To be clear, I'd be talking about actual reputable articles, like something in let's say the NYT or famitsu, not fan essays on livejournal or tumblr. And I'm not asking to do a whole essay reinterpreting Days from a trans lens, but instead just state that Xion fulfills the criteria of being a trans character. Like, just that sentence, with a citation to a reputable article if necessary.
Then again, going back to the fan interpretation, it appears to also be offensive to some to state outright "Xion is trans" when her contrived scenario is so unlike the real struggle of people in the real world, so from that tack maybe it would be best to leave this out after all?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
"her contrived scenario is so unlike the real struggle of people in the real world" -- I agree with this I think. I can definitely see how some trans folks would resonate with Xion's struggle of identity, just as many identify with Roxas' struggle at individuality as well. But I don't think that's equivalent to say that she's technically trans simply given that it's never really covered or seen that way officially in the games. LightSymbol Character - Roxas.pngRoxas 13:47, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

That chair was meant for Xion[edit]

Isn't that chair meant for Sora, and Xion is a replacement for Sora when they fail to commit him?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Who knows. I edited it for ambiguity. Soroxas (talk) 18:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
That is my understanding as well. In KHDDD there was Master Xehanort, Xemnas, Ansem, Young Xehanort, Dark Riku, Vanitas, Terra-Xehanort, Xigbar, and Saix confirmed, so if you add in Luxord, Marluxia, Larxene, that leaves only one spot - I suppose Demyx was replaced by Dark Riku prior to the ending of KHDDD, and since Sora was intended as the 13th then it only makes sense that they would have used Xion as his replacement, as as replica of Sora's Nobody. (Levi657 (talk) 18:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC))
Nomura stated in the Ultimania that Demyx and Vexen were already benched as of KH3D, and Dark Riku was one of the twelve."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:02, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

KH3 hooded model[edit]

Can we please get some confirmation on this? I'm seeing conflicting accounts: This post is claiming her eyes are gold underneath the hood, but this model rip has her hooded model with blue eyes. Devil's advocate/flipside: Twitter post could be brightened up/altered in Photoshop, model rip could've been altered before uploading. Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 05:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Huh, I wasn't aware there was conflicting accounts about Xion's eyes. The user who added that bit was Reign, a regular and good contributor. Looking at the link from DA, I'm doubtful that model rip is from the game. The render looks fan-made. While it makes sense for Xion to have gold eyes since she is Xehanort's vessel, if there is a confusion, we should ask one of the users on the wiki who are skilled on retrieving renders and images from the game to assist on finding proof.--NinjaSheik 19:30, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
The same user ripped 0.2 stuff that's being used by the wiki, so I'm erring on "yes, they can also rip official KH3 material". I actually did ask if the model was altered beforehand but didn't get a clear answer. Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 09:05, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
I guess the only way to find out is checking the game ourselves. I'm almost done with my Critical playthrough, so I'll keep it in mind once I reach the Keyblade Graveyard. --ShardofTruth 13:55, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, ShardofTruth. :)--NinjaSheik 03:00, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Hehe, it pays to have compulsive extra saves! I have a save right at the start of the gauntlet. Gimmie about 30 minutes to run through, record and see what's up. --Samoa Joe (talk) 20:59, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Sigh. So unfortunately, I think we're gonna have to write this one off as impossible to ascertain. [Check it out.] That's the best in-game shot I could get where she wasn't obscured by a glow, and as you can see...nothing. Her eyes are totally obscured by the shadow effect. I could try a few more times, but I was lucky enough to get this shot. Maybe Shard might have better luck, but I think we should wait until a proper model is extracted before we decide anything. --Samoa Joe (talk) 22:05, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Woohoo! There's been a development! While fiddling around in the game's Data Greeting mode, I can 100% confirm that hooded Xion's eyes are indeed gold! Will upload a picture later. --Samoa Joe (talk) 18:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Actually, screw it lol [here it is right now]. Cranked up the brightness and contrast, and voila. Gold eyes under the hood. --Samoa Joe (talk) 18:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Xion's Ruse[edit]

So on Xion's page, it says, 'It is explained in her Secret Reports that this is somewhat of a ruse—she knows that Roxas will disappear if she continues to exist, so she plans to force Roxas to absorb her, saving himself and thwarting Xemnas's plan.' But after reading through Xion's secret reports myself, I can't seem to find a concrete source for that line (even though I'm well aware of it being what Xion had in mind). Am I missing something in one of the entries? --Mikoto (talk) 04:20, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I believe the current revision is incorrect in citing the Secret Reports as a source, instead I think a better source would be her final words; "It was my choice to go away now. I belong with Sora." seems to better illustrate that fact of her knowing and planning for Roxas to absorb her. I don't think there's any Secret Report of her outright saying that, but maybe it was referring to Day 352's where she recognizes Roxas and Axel forgetting her after she goes through with her plan. Pureautism (talk) 02:03, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Xion as a replica of Roxas?[edit]

Is she really a replica of Roxas, not Sora? I know that one secret report by Axel is listed as a source, but we also get this from one of Xemnas' reports (day 255):

Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes.

I understand the whole 'through Roxas' thing, but in the end, wasn't she made to be a replica of Sora, using Sora's leaked memories from Roxas?--Mikoto (talk) 09:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Seems fair enough, the game makes a point several times to say that she was intended to be a copy of Sora, but only due to being an imperfect replica did she gain her own identity. Granted there is that one secret report, but that's really the only bread crumb, other than that the game points pretty clearly to 'meant to replicate sora' rather than 'meant to replicate roxas'. There should be no problem editing the page to reflect this. Pureautism (talk) 10:59, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
The Xion and who's she a replica has always been a subject of discussion, because of confusing it was (just look at the archives). Honestly, it still confuses me sometimes, but it was discussed with the community before and Xion being Roxas's replica with Sora's memories was what decided on after many debates.--NinjaSheik 00:59, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
... So, I can't change it to her being a replica of Sora, then? Because, although that may be the conclusion the community came to, her being a replica of Roxas just doesn't sound right.--Mikoto (talk) 10:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
According to the English Ultimania, "she is a replica puppet modeled after Kairi from Sora's memories. The Organization created her to absorb Roxas's power as a Keyblade wielder."
And her KH3 journal entry states "She was an experimental replica used to siphon Sora's memories out of Roxas, and this allowed her to become a Keyblade wielder."
So it sounds like she's not really anyone's replica, but just absorbs Sora's memories and Roxas's powers. TheSilentHero 10:49, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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