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| EDIT: I did find a Chinese site that translates it as Arch Behemoth: http://www.ffsky.com/ff/zhuanti/KH/fm_4.htm. But again, Chinese.}} | | EDIT: I did find a Chinese site that translates it as Arch Behemoth: http://www.ffsky.com/ff/zhuanti/KH/fm_4.htm. But again, Chinese.}} |
| | {{KrytenKoro|I would like to ask again that the page get moved back to Arc Behemoth, as there are Japanese sites that translate it as "Arc", and there is contextual evidence for "Arc", while there is none for "Arch".}} |
Revision as of 23:47, 5 July 2009
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KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!" TALK -
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Why is this at Arch Behemoth, and not Arc Behemoth?
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
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You're 100% sure that it's Arc, correct?
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KrytenKoro - Click TALK -
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Talk:Behemoth. Not 100% until I can translate the journal entry, but "Arch" simply doesn't make any sense in relation to the character, while Arc references quite a few things about it.
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Kharon - "Not even the deepest darkness can shroud the connection our hearts share." TALK - "My inner darkness saved me when I needed help the most."
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Prehaps the name is refrencing arch as in a kind of rank.
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
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Here, the names are under each enemy.
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
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Yes, like an archbishop, which is an elevated bishop in Christianity. Arch must mean it's rank.
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
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Case closed.
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KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy." TALK -
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There is no "Arch Behemoth" in Final Fantasy, (in fact, the only final fantasy enemies with Arch in their name are the Arch Dragon, from the spinoff game Vagrant Story, and Arch Azul, from the Dirge of Cerberus, released after KH Final Mix), and Japanese-based fansites translate it as Arc, and they specifically define it as relating to geometric arc (極圏)). Thorf, the only one whose actually put time into translating and analyzing a lot of Final Mix, also translated it as "Arc". "Arch Behemoth" was pretty much a name created by English fans only semi-familiar with Japanese, and it seems in most cases they did not have access to the journal entry, while Thorf and the Japanese fansites did. Furthermore, supposing the name as "Arch" and claiming that it means that the Behemoth is a higher class doesn't make sense, because the Arc Behemoth is the weakest version of all Behemoths.
Again, all of the contextual evidence points at "Arc", and all of the authoritative translations claim the translation is "Arc". There is no evidence for "Arch" besides the thought that it is "possible", which goes just as much for "Arc".
EDIT: I did find a Chinese site that translates it as Arch Behemoth: http://www.ffsky.com/ff/zhuanti/KH/fm_4.htm. But again, Chinese.
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KrytenKoro - Click TALK -
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I would like to ask again that the page get moved back to Arc Behemoth, as there are Japanese sites that translate it as "Arc", and there is contextual evidence for "Arc", while there is none for "Arch".
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