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{{FinalRest|time=05:58, 14 June 2014 (UTC)|happy2=Okay, first I'll give my answers to some of the above. :) | |||
*'''Location''': I think we could put it in the Kingdom Hearts Wiki: namespace (I'm not sure if it's called that here or not...). Then I think for promotion, we should put links in the sitenotice's and sections on the mainpage. | |||
*'''The Arenas''': I comment on this below, but I'll add some more input. From my point of view, the previous battles are for click baiting. The end game for this magazine is to generate new user interest in the wiki, right? So I think those links are good because they (hopefully) get people to go "Wow, Mirage Arena went up against Blank Points? That's a random battle, what else have they done over there?" and that (hopefully) leads to clicking on the arena, which (hopefully) leads to voting. The coming soon section is for the same reason. Instead of giving it all away, the idea is that readers go "Traverse Town, Leon and Gepetto are going to be in fights soon? Surely they won't be fighting each other? Who ''are'' they going to fight? I'll go take a look..." That's my thinking behind it, and if we decide to switch to a banner, I still strongly believe we need something to encourage that sort of thinking. Cause if we just stick a banner there, then it's just like "Oh, there's a link to the voting arenas. Welp, I don't vote there, so I won't click on it." I know these are all hypothetical situations, but I think we need to do everything we can to generate the interest in the sections which have our biggest (arguably) user participation. | |||
*'''Station of Awakening''': Haha, I suppose I should've been a bit more serious with my test. :P Yep, the Station of Awakening will happen exactly as you describe. It's a debate, basically. The two users argue for what they think is better, and it's left to the readers to decide who has the better argument. As for moving it up the page, I did think about that, but I think I left it because I thought we should get the arena stuff out of the way first, and have the SoA as a little pop of interest at the end. But if more want the SoA to be moved up, I have no problem with doing so. ^_^ | |||
*'''Ansem's Report''': Yep, if KHInsider can do it, then why not? | |||
Okay, now my own additions. | |||
*'''Comments''': Are we going to leave a place for readers to comment? I think the hosting page should be protected from edits, but the talk pages should be left open for readers to comment on. A place where they can talk about the things in the articles and stuff. | |||
*'''Editors in Chief''': I know this is listed in the sign up section, but it has no volunteers yet, when I think it's one of the most crucial jobs we need at the moment. I think two editors would be good. This is what the editors in chief would do: | |||
#Serve as the wrangler for all the different volunteers, keeping track of who's doing what and if they're on track. | |||
#Making sure each section has an assigned editor and, if volunteers have proven hard to find, completing the unassigned sections themselves. | |||
#In charge of the magazine mailbox. Speaking of which, do we have an official mailbox yet? I've noticed people have started using the test mag as a proper place to stick their work, which isn't good, because then there's no mystery for when the whole thing is done! We need an email so people can send their completed work there and the chiefs can keep it private until release. Also, I need to know what the email is so I can add it into the code where necessary. | |||
#Implementing everyone's work into the template and readying it for release. | |||
#Sweeping the completed magazine for grammar errors. | |||
#Selecting for the sections where selection is necessary. Eg: Choosing the mailbox question, the guess the beast etc. | |||
#Contacting those whose work was featured in the magazine when it is released: the artists, newbie editors mentioned on the first page. They pretty much have to do talk page magazine promotion. :D | |||
#Altering the codes so they work properly on both the Keyhole on the KHWiki. | |||
#Writing the contents page. | |||
#Prettying up the format of everyone's articles. This includes adding images to spice up wall's-o-text. | |||
#Writing the Round Room summary. | |||
#Sorting through the answers to our puzzles/to do lists and awarding medals/including mentions as necessary. | |||
#General bad-assery. | |||
I really think an editor is what we need right now to pull together all the strings we have woven so far. So, anyone want the job?}} | |||
===Template Talk=== | |||
{{FinalRest|time=05:58, 14 June 2014 (UTC)|happy=New section to keep the template separate from the article discussion. Also, I apologise in advance for the wall of text I know I'm about to type out. | |||
So, as of yesterday, I have done all I can in regards to the coding of the template. I'm gonna go page by page and list the issues I see/changes I've made/opinions I need for what we have. Please take a look at [[User talk:MateusinhoEX/MagazineTest#Test|the test run]] so you can take a look at what I'm referring to. :) Also note that I am referring to the template ONLY. In other words, if I say a page is done, I mean the code for the page, not the articles/other content within it. | |||
;Cover + Contents | |||
*Both pages are done and dusted | |||
;Ansem Reports | |||
*This isn't a necessity but I would still appreciate if someone could figure out how to space out the boxes a bit. Basically, I want the boxes to look like [http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y390/Snozcumsmees/Wiki/Untitled-1copy_zpse12589f2.png this]. | |||
*There's still no answer to how to add videos to the template. We can always just include links to trailers and things, but I think being able to include the proper videos would make the journal section (and any other sections with videos) much more visually pleasing. | |||
;Unlocking the Keyhole | |||
*Done | |||
;The Door to Light | |||
*Do ya'll want log sections to match the keyhole? | |||
*Are you scrapping the Command Board section? Cause I'll cut it from the code if you are. :) | |||
;The Coliseum | |||
*Probably our most indecisive page. ;D First, I can't remember if the Recent Battles section was given the go ahead. What do you guys think of that section? | |||
*Ah, the debated Coming Soon sections. We really need to come to final decision with these. I think I'm the only one that likes the images advertising the upcoming contestants, and the preferred method is the banner, right? Well I'm fine with just the same image for each issue, but I'd press for listing the contestants underneath the banners to give people a reason to click there. Basically, we need to click bait. Any ideas for how to do so? | |||
*I spaced out the debate section of the page. Is the convo easy to follow? | |||
*Also with the debate section, is there a way to implement the speech bubble codes into the main template? Not a biggie, but doing so would cut down the mag's article coding quite a bit. | |||
;The Keyblade Master | |||
*Done. All the personalized stuff will be left to whoever the KM is for the issue. | |||
;Dive to the Heart | |||
*Like with the Ansem page, I would like a gap between the boxes if possible. | |||
;The Round Room | |||
*Where are we hosting the audio and video? Let me know so I can add the correct codes in. | |||
*Will the Podcast peeps be taking topic requests? Let me know if I have to add in a section for contact details. :) | |||
*Should I add in a "Starring..." box? You know, a place to list all the people participating in the recording? Or will it be included under the In this episode box? | |||
*Regardless of the outcome of the above, are avatars still going to be used to identify speakers in the video? If so, I'll make sure there's room in the template. | |||
;Mark of Mastery Exam | |||
*Done, I think. | |||
;Naminé's Sketchbook | |||
*Changed the colors a bit. Are they okay? | |||
*I couldn't figure out how to get the boxes to hug the images. Can anyone help? I would like it to look more like [http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y390/Snozcumsmees/Wiki/2_zps35f26d2b.png this]. | |||
*Is all the art we feature on this page going to be from our editors? Or will we feature random fan art? Need to know for coding purposes. ^^ | |||
;The Grid | |||
*So I added a little story into the Guess the Beast part, so it was a bit more dynamic than just "Guess the Beast". But it's hella cheesy. XP Feel free to make it... better. | |||
*Riddles! I think we might want to include more. What do you think for a max number? | |||
*The Grid looks barren and I think we need to add some more features. I looked at my original pitch for the page to get some ideas and these were the ideas we had: | |||
:#A Puzzle. Like, a ''proper'' puzzle. Is there anyone here who knows how to make wordfinds or crosswords etc? | |||
:#A KH Skit. The original thinking behind this was like a recurring comic, but in script form... or even if comic form, if someone was willing to whip that up. I was thinking of it being based around the same characters, with room for expansion to a bigger cast. We could do it on KH (The Adventures of Axel! Today's episode: The struggle with fire insurance) or maybe some editors could collaborate on their own adventures (Chainoffire and FinalRest in... Nose Punch III: Fisticuffs!) or even mix the two together (The Adventures of Axel! Today's episode: Why are those two idiots punching each other in the nose?) | |||
:#A one shot voting arena for the readers to participate in in the comments... or talk page, I dunno. We could also use this one to advertise the next issue. For example, in a Namine VS Roxas battle, we could have whoever wins be featured on the next cover, or the subject of one of the next articles etc. | |||
*Those are just the old ideas, so others are welcome. Long story short: we need something else for the Grid page, so it isn't so basic. | |||
;Flick Rush | |||
*Does the format for the mailbag look alright? | |||
*Is the mailbag always going to be one question? Or multiple? If the latter, what is the max number? | |||
*I changed the To Do Lists, to make the tasks smaller than the original ones set, as an example of what they should look like. The idea is that they're small, manageable tasks to encourage editing. | |||
And that's all I've got! I really need opinions on all of the above, so I can put the template aside with the knowledge that we've done all we can to it. Oh, and feel free to comment on anything else you want to change/add. Finally, I apologise to all the editors whose names I've randomly chucked throughout the test. XD}} | |||
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Please sign your name under your desired post along with a quick summary of what you will do for the page. Note: The users in control of these posts will likely alternate after each issue (except perhaps the executive editor and coder). Also, multiple editors may share one post and one user can have multiple posts so don't feel put off when someone else already signed up for a post you wanted. Maybe your ideas can be merged or your idea can be done next time!
- Executive Editor: Oversees the entire process, available to help users writing the articles if needed, and hosts the mailbag.
- News Reporters: Writes news for Wikis and KH.
- Coders: Runs the template and ensures it is working correctly.
- Special Editor: Writes the Special Editor Page.
- Wiki Helpers:' Writes the Dive to the Heart.
- Interviewers: Writes up the Round Room and perhaps user interviews for the User Page.
- Reviewer: Writes a review and "Top 5 List" for the User Page.
- Puzzlers: Makes the Game Grid.
- Artists: Draws the front cover and a piece of fanart for Namine's Sketchbook.
- Proof Reader: Double checks all other pieces.
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- Okay, I've got up with some ideas: first, what about the user page being called, "The Keyblade Master" or something like that? Mirage Arena and Underdrome current battles will be held at the same pages of their news. And that's it for now :) - MateusinhoEX 13:16, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
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- 5 people is too much of a cluster to do, even with visuals going on (also, I'm too lazy to edit that much visuals), especially with audio-only podcast. Most podcast are done with 3/4 people so that its easier to hear whats being said. UnknownCheisā —— underwater knife fight 16:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Alright, but so far we only have one person able to do the podcast. Anyone else who can do it? TheFifteenthMember 16:33, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Visually speaking (depending on how lazy I'm gonna be when I edit this), and using me, FM, Ek, and Cof as example and that me and Cof are the one that are currently speaking, the podcast visual should look something like this. UnknownCheisā —— underwater knife fight 17:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to have the names besides each wavelength so that the viewer can match name-to-voice easier? TheFifteenthMember 19:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Over the IRC, UC explained to me that doing the visuals would take a lot of work since you'd be listening to the podcast for half an hour, figuring out who's speaking at each second and animating their wavelength. I think we should plan a podcast, record it and see how tedious it is to make the visual. TheFifteenthMember 09:59, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to have the names besides each wavelength so that the viewer can match name-to-voice easier? TheFifteenthMember 19:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Visually speaking (depending on how lazy I'm gonna be when I edit this), and using me, FM, Ek, and Cof as example and that me and Cof are the one that are currently speaking, the podcast visual should look something like this. UnknownCheisā —— underwater knife fight 17:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Typing ":" over and over is getting to be a pain ಠ_ಠ Also I did do another layout for the podacast thats more easier to understand. Also, also Cof to answer your question about G+ vs Skype. G+ will record your hangout and make it ready for upload, but you cant edit the video. While with Skype you would have to edit the thing and upload it. UnknownCheisā —— underwater knife fight 17:53, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Alright, but so far we only have one person able to do the podcast. Anyone else who can do it? TheFifteenthMember 16:33, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Another topic: what is the podcast going to be rated? Is this going to be PG-13 or are we going to have to keep it PG? I'm sure minor swear words will slip out, but would we bleep/edit those out in the event that someone does accidentally say something? Chainoffire 06:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- Considering this will still be a representation of the Wiki, I think it should use the same rules and standards as appropriate here (except obviously more informal), meaning it won't be like the IRC. About bleeping out words, I'd think that'd only be necessary if it's actually vulgar language. I don't know about you guys but in my eyes, words like "damn" and "hell" aren't exactly "swear words". TheFifteenthMember 22:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- So do we want to have a day to test this out then? Chainoffire 02:37, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Update: so it look like we won't be able to do fancy audio visualizer, only because my computer can't run the damn thing, because its old. Also, the programs to make the audio wavelength is not compatible with my editing program and I'l too lazy to find the correct version. So my new idea is that we have a basic background with each person icon lighting up whenever someone talks. Also, also, everyone is gonna need to have their own microphone to capture high quality audio for me to edit with. UnknownCheisā —— underwater knife fight 12:03, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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5 Minutes wouldn't be enough time to cover some of those topics without the podcast sounding too rushed. The four of us have already come up with our own agenda, we would run the podcast to be 45-60ish minutes. But those are good ideas, I've based some new ones off of the agenda. Chainoffire 04:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)