|| So one of the topics discussed during today's Roundtable was the rule we were to adapt and utilize when naming our articles here on the Wiki. Right now, the Manual of Style (which is extremely outdated, but that's another story...) states the following (my commentary/explanations are in italics below each point):
- New articles should be named according to the subject's official name.
- If the official name of a subject has been changed in later episodes of Kingdom Hearts, please use the first name. However, redirects can be made using the later names.
- This refers to articles such as the Heartless in 358/2 Days that first appeared in Kingdom Hearts II. For instance, we still have an article called "Surveillance Robot," rather than "Watcher."
- The definite article (the) and indefinite articles (a/an) should be avoided in article titles except if they are used in an official title/name.
- For instance, we should have an article called "The Mayor" to inform readers on the guy from Halloween Town, not "Mayor." "The Prince" to describe the guy from Dwarf Woodlands, not "Prince." Even if the definite article feels pointless, it should still be used because it's what the games use.
- Likewise, character names are referred to the same way they are in the Kingdom Hearts series; for example, surnames of characters from existing works are usually dropped (e.g. Cloud instead of Cloud Strife, Mulan instead of Fa Mulan).
- Even if a character calls someone by his or her full name or by other names, only the one prominent in Kingodm Hearts should be used. "Beat," not "Daisukenojo Bito," "Leon," not "Squall Leonhart," "Will Turner," not "William Turner, Jr.", "Dr. Jumba," not "Jumba Jookiba," and "Flynn," not "Kevin Flynn."
Now, my personal opinion has technically already been stated by both the rules in the MoS and my commentary on those rules, as shown above. I feel that we should always name our articles in accordance with what the games use; in the case of characters and such, we should use what the Journal uses. For characters who appear in multiple games, sometimes experiencing a minor change in name (Smee vs. Mr. Smee), the name used in the Journal of the game that served as that character's FIRST APPEARANCE should be used, in my opinion. If a character has a title, such as Master Eraqus, the title of that character's article should include it ONLY IF THE JOURNAL DOES ("Master Eraqus," not "Eraqus"). In the end, this is all about recognizability, which is why I am not against keeping "Mickey Mouse" instead of "The King" or "King Mickey." As a general rule of thumb, cutscenes should not be a valid source for article titles. Just because Yuffie calls Leon "Squall" at one point does not mean his article should be titled "Squall Leonhart," even though this is (and everyone knows it is) his full name. In my opinion, we should be thinking about what is best for our readers, not what we think is best as a community. If I were just the average Joe who loved Kingdom Hearts but had never heard of The World Ends With You, not once would I think of searching for "Daisukenojo Bito" if I wanted to read about a character called "Beat." I understand there are redirects and such, but because we are a Kingdom Hearts Wiki, Kingdom Hearts material takes precedence over stuff that is "common knowledge" or "just plain true." Again, this is why we have "Mulan," not "Fa Mulan." If a character has a different name other than the one in the title, I feel like we should either make note of this in the article header ("Beat, full name Daisukenojo Bito, is a character who appears in Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance), or we should, perhaps, include this alternate name in the character's origin section (Daisukenojo Bito is a character who originally appeared in the Square Enix video game franchise The World Ends With You, etc.).
It was requested that I create this forum based on what was discussed during the Roundtable; it was decided a forum was the best place to continue this discussion. I have used this message to also state my opinion on this matter. What does everyone else think we should do? Let's either agree to actually adhere to what the MoS says or decide on a new, concrete rule together based on what the MAJORITY feels is right, and abide by that.
What I said about using "Master Eraqus" and not "Eraqus," thus "Master Xehanort" and not "Xehanort," creates a problem: what do we do when two characters who logic says are the same are treated as separate entities by the Journal, which I'd like to adhere to when naming our articles (Master Xehanort vs. Young Xehanort)? This is a separate discussion for another day, but I just thought I would make mention of it before I forget...