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| Also, what about cases in which a staff member isn't on but a vandal/user needs a warning? I don't think staff members would like thier talkpages cluttered with a list users/anons that need a warning template. To continue, sometimes calmly telling a vandal to stop is not the case, however the message usually "hits home" when they see a warning template on their talk page. My point for this is, why calmly ask a vandal three+ times when a warning template would fit after the second verbal warning?}} | | Also, what about cases in which a staff member isn't on but a vandal/user needs a warning? I don't think staff members would like thier talkpages cluttered with a list users/anons that need a warning template. To continue, sometimes calmly telling a vandal to stop is not the case, however the message usually "hits home" when they see a warning template on their talk page. My point for this is, why calmly ask a vandal three+ times when a warning template would fit after the second verbal warning?}} |
| {{Demonic Kunai|Time=21:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, I agree with Xion}} | | {{Demonic Kunai|Time=21:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, I agree with Xion}} |
| | {{DTN|time=06:00, January 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=Those warnings that you gave, however, were given before this policy currently being discussed was put into action. Also, a vandal doesn't need to have three warning templates stamped on their talk page to be banned; if it is plainly obvious that they have three or more accounts of vandalism to the wiki, then they are subject to a temporary or permanent ban from the wiki. We have a large and active staff, and if you can't find a staffer around, I can almost guarentee you that there will be an administrator on either this wiki's IRC Channel, or the Final Fantasy Wiki's IRC Channel. In fact, that's how most editors have been notifying administrators of vandals, hence the increase in vandals banned by Hexedmagica. If we could get even more administrators on these channels more often for vandal notification, then that would be even better. |
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| | If a decision has to be made conerning regular users being able to deliver official warnings, I would deny them the ability to do so. Xion4ever suggests only having some of the non-staffers able to deliver the warnings. The issue would be that a qualification would have to be made for an editor to meet to use the warning templates. And that qualification would have to be ''constantly'' changing. For example, if it was edit count that was being judged, the number of required edits would have to be increased depending on the wiki's growth, and edit count can be high for an editor from the blogs and user talk pages. Similarly to the recent age policy stint, it would be all or none for regular users, and I think that it would be better to just have none if you won't be using the templates at all versus all editors being able to use them as official warnings. |
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| | Or, here's an idea: we could allow the use of the warnings templates to all editors, but only the warnings from staff members count toward a temporary or permanent ban. However, the issue with this is an inappropriate use of the warning templates, as I have seen in the past. Although there are some acceptable reasons for warning templates that seem ridiculous (such as [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki talk:Sandbox|vandalizing the Sandbox]]), new users and even experiences non-staffers give some crazy warnings sometimes that just show that they shouldn't be able to have the power to contribute to the expulsion of a vandal, when in fact they are using warning templates in cases that are not vandalism.}} |
There's something that I've been curious about for a little while, but it's never been that big a deal so I let it go. If someone is vandalizing pages I know the right thing to do would be to tell a staff member, but even so I've seen some users using Warning Templates. Are the Warning Templates just for staff members or can normal users use them if necessary?
