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A new bot should indeed be only on the social channel, but it shouldn't be like OrganizationXVMoogle.  It should only have a few functions, mostly wiki-related.  Now you are going to say "Inexistent, that defeats the purpose of even having a bot!".  Well, yeah, exactly.  My vote is '''Nay'''.  {{The Inexistentsig}} 17:03, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
A new bot should indeed be only on the social channel, but it shouldn't be like OrganizationXVMoogle.  It should only have a few functions, mostly wiki-related.  Now you are going to say "Inexistent, that defeats the purpose of even having a bot!".  Well, yeah, exactly.  My vote is '''Nay'''.  {{The Inexistentsig}} 17:03, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
:Pardon me, but if it were only wiki-related, you should then consider putting it on the noticeboard instead of the social channel. Therefore, I can't help but feel you're missing the point. <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#4997D0">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#191970">Néant</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="silver">Ensemble !</font>]]''' 19:50, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
:Pardon me, but if it were only wiki-related, you should then consider putting it on the noticeboard instead of the social channel. Therefore, I can't help but feel you're missing the point. <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#4997D0">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#191970">Néant</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="silver">Ensemble !</font>]]''' 19:50, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
{{Xion4ever|time=19:51, 23 April 2011 (EDT)|text=No. Never again. I cannot deny that the bot was fun and amusing at times. HOWEVER, our old bot caused more problems that greatly outweighed/numbered the positives. Anyone remember [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Suggestions_for_improving_IRC_bot&t=20100709005634 this] discussion? Also, you notice how we had more IRC problems when the bot was around? <small>Check out kingdomhearts.wikia forums if you don't believe me.</small> Now I understand that the maturity level of an individual has a great role on how they act (wherever the place is- real life or internet life), but that is still no excuse for the problems that resulted from OrganizationXVMoogle. We had spamming, cursing, angry hate mail, users complaining constantly, etc...from almost every single user (regardless of age/popularity).
Another thing, channel operators were constantly being pushed to create new rules for the trivial problems the bot created. We even had to increase "police mode" just to keep some small grasp of control on the channel. Don't know about you guys, but I didn't enjoy being that strict with the rules or users. It was absolutely choas. We were being messaged multiple times every day that "So-and-so spammed at 13:04pm EST," and "The bot said I'm a jerk!" = Not a happy time. -_- If we get another bot, we will be forced to revert to a more strict run with the IRC.
Another thought of mine is why do you guys want another bot? Some of you who have said a bot would be nice are completely ignorant on the past problems we've had with bots on the IRC. (which isn't your fault) Others, were users who complained to me (and other users) that the bot was a horrid creature that should be removed. Finally, there are some of you who understand the past history, yet still want a bot...Why?
And before anyone posts about how the bot had a special feature that said "Let's work on this stub page, guys!" How many of us actually used/listened to it? NOTE: General "Oh, hey! It talked about a Wiki matter!" does not count. Besides, you can eaisly fund stub pages by looking through the categories. Any other feature the bot had that referred back to the Wiki can be found AT THE WIKI.
Finally, this is a Wiki, guys. We're here to provide the best public information available about a subject we all enjoy. In other words: You should be editing, not worrying about what the bot says when you type a code! We already have enough distractions with the Mirage Arena and trivial user talk conversations on talkpages- we don't need any more distractions!}}

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TALK - I just obtained a potion! — 18:40, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
Well, there has been some talk about a new bot for the IRC. As seen here(Sorry, I forgot to log the other times -_-);

[12:55] <wolf5000> No it's going slow

[12:55] <wolf5000> It would go faster if no one shoots down the idea of another bot

[12:56] <wolf5000> But all who have seen the last bot hate bots.

[12:57] <wolf5000> But since there is an admin here i will ask.

[12:57] <wolf5000> KrytenKoro Can we have another irc bot?

[12:58] <Sove> It's more of a community decision

[12:58] <Sove> Not admin decision

[13:01] <KrytenKoro> I'm not in charge of bots, and don't know how to set them up

[13:01] <KrytenKoro> DTN would be the one for that

[13:03] <Sove> But it's still not only DTN's opinion that counts

And then later, while DTN, KK and Xion were all here...

[18:15] <Xion4ever> Fun? Yes. Amusing? Of course.

[18:15] <Xion4ever> Annoying? Heck yes. Abused/spammed? More than you know.

[18:17] <Keyblade0> [13:01] <KrytenKoro> I'm not in charge of bots, and don't know how to set them up

[18:17] <Keyblade0> [13:01] <KrytenKoro> DTN would be the one for that

[18:17] <Xion4ever> I ran across a page on how to set them up...I could probably find the link(s).

[18:17] <Xion4ever> Thing is: do we want/need one?

Should there be a new kitty- I mean bot to watch over the IRC?

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 18:49, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Keyblade-Blk.png NO. No no no no no no no no no. Godawful idea.

The last bot was 100%, absolutely abused right from the start. karma was used to offend people, output features became tools of spam and personal attacking, roll was abused infinitely (no pun intended), and so forth. The IRC is doing quite well without an IRC bot--I quite like it at its current state of being a calmer, less "ZOMG GAIZ HAI SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM OLOL" somewhat more mature channel than it was before. I refuse to allow a bot that is unavoidably going to become a tool for abuse that does absolutely NOT benefit the channel in any way to be added to the channel.

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SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. "Lea, we have to go."

"Well, I can tell you are." — 23:05, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Isa_bbs.png Maybe just for this social channel? I'd be cool with that.
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Agreed with Croneh. At least put it on the Social channel, that way srsbusiness can be done srsly in the Noticeboard without someone goofing off with the bot.

/me miss kitty ;-;

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FA icon.png I would agree with it going only on the social channel, but nowhere else.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 08:24, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

A new bot should indeed be only on the social channel, but it shouldn't be like OrganizationXVMoogle. It should only have a few functions, mostly wiki-related. Now you are going to say "Inexistent, that defeats the purpose of even having a bot!". Well, yeah, exactly. My vote is Nay. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 17:03, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Pardon me, but if it were only wiki-related, you should then consider putting it on the noticeboard instead of the social channel. Therefore, I can't help but feel you're missing the point. TamboursNéant Ensemble ! 19:50, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
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OPXion4EverIcon.png No. Never again. I cannot deny that the bot was fun and amusing at times. HOWEVER, our old bot caused more problems that greatly outweighed/numbered the positives. Anyone remember this discussion? Also, you notice how we had more IRC problems when the bot was around? Check out kingdomhearts.wikia forums if you don't believe me. Now I understand that the maturity level of an individual has a great role on how they act (wherever the place is- real life or internet life), but that is still no excuse for the problems that resulted from OrganizationXVMoogle. We had spamming, cursing, angry hate mail, users complaining constantly, etc...from almost every single user (regardless of age/popularity).

Another thing, channel operators were constantly being pushed to create new rules for the trivial problems the bot created. We even had to increase "police mode" just to keep some small grasp of control on the channel. Don't know about you guys, but I didn't enjoy being that strict with the rules or users. It was absolutely choas. We were being messaged multiple times every day that "So-and-so spammed at 13:04pm EST," and "The bot said I'm a jerk!" = Not a happy time. -_- If we get another bot, we will be forced to revert to a more strict run with the IRC.

Another thought of mine is why do you guys want another bot? Some of you who have said a bot would be nice are completely ignorant on the past problems we've had with bots on the IRC. (which isn't your fault) Others, were users who complained to me (and other users) that the bot was a horrid creature that should be removed. Finally, there are some of you who understand the past history, yet still want a bot...Why?

And before anyone posts about how the bot had a special feature that said "Let's work on this stub page, guys!" How many of us actually used/listened to it? NOTE: General "Oh, hey! It talked about a Wiki matter!" does not count. Besides, you can eaisly fund stub pages by looking through the categories. Any other feature the bot had that referred back to the Wiki can be found AT THE WIKI.

Finally, this is a Wiki, guys. We're here to provide the best public information available about a subject we all enjoy. In other words: You should be editing, not worrying about what the bot says when you type a code! We already have enough distractions with the Mirage Arena and trivial user talk conversations on talkpages- we don't need any more distractions!

Xion4ever Who am I? — 19:51, 23 April 2011 (EDT)