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No one called you a hypocrite, Kryten. It was meerly being said that DTN wouldn't yell at you for cursing, while he would go to the extreme to de'op Erry. You weren't there, and you weren't being called a hypocrite; you were being used as an example to prove the hypocracy of someone else. {{The Inexistentsig}} 12:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC) | No one called you a hypocrite, Kryten. It was meerly being said that DTN wouldn't yell at you for cursing, while he would go to the extreme to de'op Erry. You weren't there, and you weren't being called a hypocrite; you were being used as an example to prove the hypocracy of someone else. {{The Inexistentsig}} 12:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
{{KrytenKoro|Yeah, that's false, too. DTN has fully banned me from the channel before, not just deopped me. I can see evidence that DTN may not have done what he did with proper decorum, but it is ridiculous to be claiming hypocrisy because he said no to the swearing. | |||
Bloody hell. It is plainly evident that Erry did not do anything truly unacceptable, so I don't see why he shouldn't get his ops back ''now''. If we are all having an issue with what the IRC rules and the expectations for behavior are, that is a '''''separate''''' matter, and should be taken up in a publicized forum or at the next roundtable. But at least from the logs, I don't see Erry doing anything that would warrant loss of his op role. DTN, since you're the one with the keys, please fix it. | |||
Honestly, given the behavior of the both of you on the wiki or channel over this matter, I think you could qualify for a go in the manufactory; and you'd ''definitely'' qualify if this thing can't come to an amicable end immediately.}} |
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http://freetexthost.com/50nswa2rlz http://freetexthost.com/ohfxcokkdf
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...is there a log? I think reading what happened would help... unless a good chunk of the community was online when this happened. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 01:43, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- I'll upload a log as soon as I'm done with setting up the Mirage Arena. Erry ♓ 14:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I personally think Erry should stay as an OP. If DTN doesn't take kindly to Erry's criticism he shouldn't have involved the others at the channel by muting the whole channel, he could've just kicked Erry or maybe even gave him a warning via query. In my point of view, Erry's just stating his opinion (or maybe even criticism) and he doesn't even mention the names, he's almost innocent. The17master 15:40, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Okay... what the hell. Erry, in no way, was being unprofessional. And I mean, DTN, really, calling him an unprofessional op for repeatedly trying to unmute the channel? That makes him an inappropriate op? What about your giant kick war with Kryten, where you ended up banning him from the social channel, just for fun? How is that professional? Or the multiple times when users have asked you questions on both the notioceboard and social channels, and only recieved "Beep" or "Boop" as responses? Not helping those who came to seek your aid is definitly not responsable. And like they said above, you shouldn't have muted the channel. That obviously didn't solve anything. Meerly because he stated his own opinion about a completely different site (which, by the way, refuses to affiliate with us, even though they know that we are the more encyclopedic of the two), he shouldn't be kicked for it. I mean, you didn't even supply ample reason why the subject wasn't preferable. Who was it going to hurt? The only FFWiki staff that occasionaly come around our channel are Hexedy and Azul, both of which are primarily inactive. I vote +o for ErryK. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 16:00, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I certainly don't chat enough in IRC to know what is going on with all the -o/+o and the quiet time (why is there such thing anyway) but I don't think Erry's vague criticism is enough to take away his OP rights. Why shouldn't he be allowed to speak his mind when he wants to, as long he does it in appropriate words? And who is zetaBasilisk by the way? --ShardofTruth 17:14, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Coming from the same place as Shard here, since I'm never really on the IRC, but going by the log Erry wasn't being unprofessional at all. He made a vague critique of another site. ...So? He wasn't cursing and he wasn't naming names. LapisLazuliScarab20:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
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The only thing that is "more to this" as in evidence is the past times I've been rude. But that was not done on purpose. Erry ♓ 20:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
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- Who was Aradooria? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 02:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- But when Kryten, Neumannz, Crono or you swear, oh no, they're not at fault, nobody is, it's all sunshine and rainbows.... truer words have never been spoken (even though Neumannz really doesn't curse that much). This entire argument is the pot calling the kettle black, guys. No matter how much you believe or act, you are no better than anybody else, no matter who you are. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 02:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- ...Guys this is getting ridiculous. Seriously. Would it kill someone to simply resolve this case? While Erry did swear, he did it just so he can get some attention and be done with this. Now, at the last roundtable this problem wasn't solved because DTN can't state his opinions yet, but I suggest we get it done at the next meeting. The17master 07:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- But when Kryten, Neumannz, Crono or you swear, oh no, they're not at fault, nobody is, it's all sunshine and rainbows.... truer words have never been spoken (even though Neumannz really doesn't curse that much). This entire argument is the pot calling the kettle black, guys. No matter how much you believe or act, you are no better than anybody else, no matter who you are. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 02:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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No one called you a hypocrite, Kryten. It was meerly being said that DTN wouldn't yell at you for cursing, while he would go to the extreme to de'op Erry. You weren't there, and you weren't being called a hypocrite; you were being used as an example to prove the hypocracy of someone else. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 12:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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