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The trivia piece says it's stated in a "Kingdom Hearts Character Report", though we really do need an actual source for that.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 03:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
The trivia piece says it's stated in a "Kingdom Hearts Character Report", though we really do need an actual source for that.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 03:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)


==Origin==
==Secret Reports==
{{LapisScarab|time=03:28, August 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Luxord only writes a couple of Secret Reports, but [[Secret Reports#Day 173: The Gamble|one of them]] caught my eye. Luxord talks about envying "the children" (probably Roxas and Xion), because they are more innocent and don't see life as a "gamble". That's probably worth mentioning in the personality section.}}


Luxord hasnt had any of his history revealled yet right? I'm just wondering why Luxord seems to be the only member of the Org. who ha any trace of facial hair, plus he kinda looks like Ansem the Wise. Could the two be related because if so that'd be extremely ironic.
== An Oath To Return ==


No, nothing has been revealed of Luxord's history. And I'm not getting into why it's a stupid assumption that Ansem and Luxord are related again. [[Forum:Content from Talk:Luxord|Look here]], someone brought that up already.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}04:09, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
Okay.... This is officially ''that moment''. People have been speculating whether it was Luxord in Re Mind's secret ending since they heard Robin Atkin Downes's voice for the driver, but watching the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmbPzKTb_aQ Japanese version]]....and it's 100% George Nakata voicing the driver as well - you simply can't ''speculate'' with that man's voice no less than you can Morgan Freeman's - you hear it, it's ''him.'' So.....now the question is how do we implement it into the wiki? Too big to ignore, too vague to state outright it's one thing or another. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 04:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:While I agree that the driver is most likely Luxord there is still a slim chance that it means nothing. For comparison both Riku’s English and Japanese voice actors provided the voice of Young Xehanort in BbS without it having any deeper significant. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
::Riku and Xehanort don't look alike though. That casting choice was made squarely out of convenience, and it was rectified in the HD remixes. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 13:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


That's just like saying Xaldin and Mickey Mouse have some sort of past together because they both have black hair. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to hear a backstory behind Luxord, but sometimes there such thing as over thinking things. [[User:Axel&#39;s Sentiment|Axel&#39;s Sentiment]] 05:52, July 27, 2010 (UTC)Axel's Sentiment
:::Point is this could also just be a placeholder voice. And we see so little of the driver that we can’t claim he looks like Luxord. Again, I agree that it most likely is him, but as of now it’s only speculation.
:::Edit: at most I think we can add to the trivia section that both of Luxord’s VAs provide the voice for the drive on the An Oath To Return page, but I don’t think it should be mentioned on Luxord’s page. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 15:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
::::If we have confirmation for the VAs, then we could add it to the Secret Ending page, but I don't believe we do, so we can't add it. You can say that you're sure it's Luxord's VA, but we need proof. The only thing we have is Robin Atkin Downes replying "It sounds like me" when asked about it. And that's not enough. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've already brought this topic up on the [https://www.khwiki.com/Talk:An_Oath_to_Return#The_Driver? An Oath to Return talk page]. While it's okay to theorise whom the driver is, flat out saying that it's "''in fact''" Luxord is just taking a massive leap of faith. While I do agree with the theories that it may indeed be him, as ''mindbendingly obvious'' as it seems, until Nomura or SE say this is Luxord, we can't say it is. [[User:CrinosWolf500|CrinosWolf500]] ([[User talk:CrinosWolf500|talk]]) 15:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::How about a linkback of some sort then? I remember about a year ago when Lauriam first showed up in UX, we didn't have a confirmation of who he was....despite it being so hilariously, painfully obvious. So the pages simply linked back to each other without stating anything. Marluxia linked to Lauriam, and vice versa. Granted for that, we'll need a page for the driver....but lol, do we have enough on the dude to actually make one? He...has similar hair to Luxord, he's an officer of some sort since he refers to Yozora as a commander, and....he drives....good lol? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


Okay, and I'm not talking like hair colour similarities, I'm saying like their facial structure, accents, the fact that they'd come from the same place is an added bonus on the speculation because the entire Org seems to have come from the Radient Garden, just saying I thought Luxord looked like a younger Ansem thats all.
By the by, can someone on here with a TV Tropes account do me a super duper favor? Can you please fix [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/KingdomHeartsOrganizationXIII Luxord's entry]]. I know it's got nothing to do with the wiki here, but it's ''driving me mental''. The capitalization of "somebody" really, '''''really''''' triggers me in particular lmao. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Plus the fact that ppl would think itd be mentioned in the game means nothing, Nomura's unpredictable, plus Ansem the Wise would be ashamed if a member of his family was in the Org. so he wouldn't mention anything, just saying that because it was never confirmed that it is still a possibility, honestly it was just a question.
::::::The big difference here is that we got a full look at Lauriam, plus the whole anagram of his name + X matched with Marluxia. We can hardly see the driver, we don't know his name, there's no official source for his VA, so it really would be speculation to even link to Luxord. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:19, 3 February 2020

Improved Luxord pic[edit]

Check out the Japanese site of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. There's an improved Luxord pic. Xaldin too. And one of Axel with his chakrams, if you're interested.

Music[edit]

Just to note that in the trivia section it mentions the 13th struggle being because:

"he is the only original Kingdom Hearts II character to have the theme, most likely because all (except Marluxia) Castle Oblivion members had this theme, and that Castle Oblivion used cards. "

Axel, and unknown (Riku in cloak) have it, and they all have it because its an organisation fight (or alleged in the case of riku) without allies. 81.23.48.110 01:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Director's favourtie member[edit]

I beg to differ. It doesn't say he is his favourtie member here:[[1]] Where did the statement about Luxord being his favourite member come from? (Bananaphone1996 02:20, May 9, 2010 (UTC))

The trivia piece says it's stated in a "Kingdom Hearts Character Report", though we really do need an actual source for that.--Lapis ofthe Night 03:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Secret Reports[edit]

DaysXemnas.png
LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png Luxord only writes a couple of Secret Reports, but one of them caught my eye. Luxord talks about envying "the children" (probably Roxas and Xion), because they are more innocent and don't see life as a "gamble". That's probably worth mentioning in the personality section.

An Oath To Return[edit]

Okay.... This is officially that moment. People have been speculating whether it was Luxord in Re Mind's secret ending since they heard Robin Atkin Downes's voice for the driver, but watching the [Japanese version]....and it's 100% George Nakata voicing the driver as well - you simply can't speculate with that man's voice no less than you can Morgan Freeman's - you hear it, it's him. So.....now the question is how do we implement it into the wiki? Too big to ignore, too vague to state outright it's one thing or another. --Samoa Joe (talk) 04:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

While I agree that the driver is most likely Luxord there is still a slim chance that it means nothing. For comparison both Riku’s English and Japanese voice actors provided the voice of Young Xehanort in BbS without it having any deeper significant. - JTD95 (talk) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Riku and Xehanort don't look alike though. That casting choice was made squarely out of convenience, and it was rectified in the HD remixes. --Samoa Joe (talk) 13:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Point is this could also just be a placeholder voice. And we see so little of the driver that we can’t claim he looks like Luxord. Again, I agree that it most likely is him, but as of now it’s only speculation.
Edit: at most I think we can add to the trivia section that both of Luxord’s VAs provide the voice for the drive on the An Oath To Return page, but I don’t think it should be mentioned on Luxord’s page. - JTD95 (talk) 15:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
If we have confirmation for the VAs, then we could add it to the Secret Ending page, but I don't believe we do, so we can't add it. You can say that you're sure it's Luxord's VA, but we need proof. The only thing we have is Robin Atkin Downes replying "It sounds like me" when asked about it. And that's not enough. TheSilentHero 15:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
I've already brought this topic up on the An Oath to Return talk page. While it's okay to theorise whom the driver is, flat out saying that it's "in fact" Luxord is just taking a massive leap of faith. While I do agree with the theories that it may indeed be him, as mindbendingly obvious as it seems, until Nomura or SE say this is Luxord, we can't say it is. CrinosWolf500 (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
How about a linkback of some sort then? I remember about a year ago when Lauriam first showed up in UX, we didn't have a confirmation of who he was....despite it being so hilariously, painfully obvious. So the pages simply linked back to each other without stating anything. Marluxia linked to Lauriam, and vice versa. Granted for that, we'll need a page for the driver....but lol, do we have enough on the dude to actually make one? He...has similar hair to Luxord, he's an officer of some sort since he refers to Yozora as a commander, and....he drives....good lol? --Samoa Joe (talk) 16:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

By the by, can someone on here with a TV Tropes account do me a super duper favor? Can you please fix [Luxord's entry]. I know it's got nothing to do with the wiki here, but it's driving me mental. The capitalization of "somebody" really, really triggers me in particular lmao. --Samoa Joe (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

The big difference here is that we got a full look at Lauriam, plus the whole anagram of his name + X matched with Marluxia. We can hardly see the driver, we don't know his name, there's no official source for his VA, so it really would be speculation to even link to Luxord. TheSilentHero 16:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)