Talk:Armor of Eraqus

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Stats

So is there any source of its stats? HP, Strength, Immunities, all that good stuff. Mar 04:42, January 23, 2011 (UTC)


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I haven't found any stats, but they can't be that high, as I beat him at level 43 as Ventus. (Third try)

Merging

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TALK - My friends are my power and I'm theirs!17:26, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
Vsymbol.pngWhy merge this page with Master Eraqes(Boss)? Why would we merge this page and No Heart's page? Then we should merge Lingering Will with Terra too.Vsymbol.png
No, we shouldn't. Armor of the Master and No Heart are not the same kind of thing the Lingering Will is, according to that Nomura interview. They are data simulations of Eraqus and Xehanort, just like the Ice Colossus battle is a data simulation of the Ice Colossus, MA Zack to Zack, or the Replica Data in KH2FM are to the Organization. No other article has separate coverage of bosses that are the original vs. a data simulation (barring coded, which is a very special case), and if we separate these, logically we have to separate those, as well as the Unversed articles for all Unversed who appear in the MA."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:44, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
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Ventus - I'm Ventus! Call me Ven!
TALK - My friends are my power and I'm theirs!17:52, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
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iZerox What's your problem?! — 03:45, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
Lea Frisbee.png To begin I'll quote what I said on No Heart's page:

"I'm against merging this page as well as merging Armor of the Master with Eraqus. They are indeed simulations of other characters. But unlike the Absent Silhouettes and the like, these are given journal entries with their own names. These characters do not appear in these forms in any other occurrence and while it is true they're the same character in many ways, they are quite unique and distinct. Merging these would be like Merging Vanitas Remnant and Vanitas. Vanitas Remnant is obviously still Vanitas to some extent but they're quite separate as far as how the game encounters go. And they both have their own distinct journal entries as well. I oppose this merge."

In addition though Ice Colossus is a simulation of the same opponent, not another form or anything of the sort. Both No Heart and Armor of the Master are unique appearances of the characters. But to say you should make separate articles for all the unversed that appear in Mirage Arena if you don't combine these is just beyond reason. The Mirage Arena Unversed are the same as their outside the arena counterparts. They're the same in appearance, attack methods, ect. The only thing that is different is stats but that changes from world to world anyway.

Armor of the Master and No Heart are unique appearances of Eraqus and Master Xehanort. They feature fighting styles that are not identical to their fights outside the arena. They also receive unique journal entries while the unversed do not. If nothing else the fact that they get their own journal entries is enough reason to keep them separate on the wiki in my opinion. Rather than merging all that is necessary is a "See Also" at the bottom of the respective character's pages.