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If these requests can be put into motion, I will be very pleased, and in complete favor of implementing this theme.}}
If these requests can be put into motion, I will be very pleased, and in complete favor of implementing this theme.}}
{{EO|time=20:38, December 16, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=I think that it looks better with the blue-ish background. I honestly do. I think we should put it up for Japan's release, so we stay "Up to Date", and we can then commense with template remodels. If it's possible to make Days Sprites or close to it out of the heads of BBS character renders, Xiggie and I will handle this. We've been planning this as our little team pet project for a long time. I think stick to the blue background, and heed DTN's requests for the heading text colors. The gray is just so boring.}}
{{EO|time=20:38, December 16, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=I think that it looks better with the blue-ish background. I honestly do. I think we should put it up for Japan's release, so we stay "Up to Date", and we can then commense with template remodels. If it's possible to make Days Sprites or close to it out of the heads of BBS character renders, Xiggie and I will handle this. We've been planning this as our little team pet project for a long time. I think stick to the blue background, and heed DTN's requests for the heading text colors. The gray is just so boring.}}
{{DTN|time=20:53, December 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well, I love a good arguement.
{{DTN|time=20:53, December 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well, I love a good argument.


The blue background makes the whole page seems like there is too much going on; plus, it takes away the "silouette" look that an achromatic coloring scheme provides. A top-background is meant to be very subtle, and not have a large effect on the overall appearance. The grey one, on the other hand, still retains a coloring with the the dramatic black tiles, as opposed to the light grey ones. Plus, you won't entirely lose that shade of blue, as it will be still be in the headings, as I reqeusted.
The blue background makes the whole page seems like there is too much going on; plus, it takes away the "silouette" look that an achromatic coloring scheme provides. A top-background is meant to be very subtle, and not have a large effect on the overall appearance. The grey one, on the other hand, still retains a coloring with the the dramatic black tiles, as opposed to the light grey ones. Plus, you won't entirely lose that shade of blue, as it will be still be in the headings, as I reqeusted.
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{{Bluer|02:02, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|Just one opinion, kupo, since this doesn't affect a Monobook user such as myself. If we were to instate a gray background, in which most users think are more subtle, we might as well not instate a background color/image at all, kupo. That said, I personally like the bluish background, kupo, and if many do not like it for its unsubtleness, perhaps make it a lighter shade of blue, kupo. Keeping the blue theme entirely seems much better than suddenly donning a neutral gray tone, kupo. Other than that I have nothing more to say,}}
{{Bluer|02:02, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|Just one opinion, kupo, since this doesn't affect a Monobook user such as myself. If we were to instate a gray background, in which most users think are more subtle, we might as well not instate a background color/image at all, kupo. That said, I personally like the bluish background, kupo, and if many do not like it for its unsubtleness, perhaps make it a lighter shade of blue, kupo. Keeping the blue theme entirely seems much better than suddenly donning a neutral gray tone, kupo. Other than that I have nothing more to say,}}
{{TNE|time=09:06, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|noel=Okay, '''light''' blue will be a nice option. ^_^}}
{{TNE|time=09:06, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|noel=Okay, '''light''' blue will be a nice option. ^_^}}
{{DTN|time=09:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|angrytext=NO, KEEP IT AT GREY.}}
{{TNE|time=09:26, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|noel=I'm not gonna play Merryweather here, but what about Bluer and other Monobook users ? We won't want them to miss out on the fun.
{{TNE|time=09:26, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|noel=I'm not gonna play Merryweather here, but what about Bluer and other Monobook users ? We won't want them to miss out on the fun.


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I think grey is better, it makes the wiki look different instead of having everything the same color.}}
I think grey is better, it makes the wiki look different instead of having everything the same color.}}
{{Azul|time=23:49, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=Blue: Don't forget me! <small>so I'm the only one who sees the Monobook background >></small> Anyways, I've been so use to a plain white background or image here and there that it doesn't matter if the Monobook is changed or not. That being said, both look really nice!}}
{{Azul|time=23:49, December 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=Blue: Don't forget me! <small>so I'm the only one who sees the Monobook background >></small> Anyways, I've been so use to a plain white background or image here and there that it doesn't matter if the Monobook is changed or not. That being said, both look really nice!}}
{{DTN|time=20:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)|text=So, from what I'm seeing, we've decided on a grey background. The colors for the monaco headers are going to be changed to a pale-aqua to match the game's logo's use of the color, as to my knowledge. The new site logo looks gerat, but I remember reading somewhere that someone wanted to see how it would look if Terra, Aqua, and Ventus's faces from the newly released boxart were used. I actually think this might be better, as the image quality would be better. If not, Xiggie's above logo will still do just fine. Other than that, we need to decide to post the new theme when BbS is released in Japan or in North America. Personally, I now will go either way. If we can get the decisions that need to be made decided on that I have mentioned, this theme will be all set to be put into use.}}

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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 17:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png Hello there, my fellow KH Wiki editors.

As you should all know, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep will be out in Japan in less than a month (on the 9th of January), so I think that we should get ready to change the Wiki from this current red Days theme over to a blue BBS theme.

I have made a new Wiki logo that is very similar to our current one; the three main characters and Kingdom Hearts written below them. But this time, I added 'WIKI' below that, and you just tell me how it looks :D

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OK, Now I also thought about what we could put as the background image (which is currently a checked KH Days pattern). I suggest using this one below, that can be found on the limited edition BBS PSP's:

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Now, I've done some image editing to see how it'll look, and I love it :D I changed the red to blue, and switched the logos and background pattern as well as making it a lot lighter so it would be so noticeable. I made two versions; one with a grey background, and one where I colored it slightly blue. Please take a look and tell me what you think:

BBS Theme - Grey background
BBS Theme - Blueish background


Well, how is it?

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — This is, quite possibly, the best day of my life.... ever.

Whether I like it or not, you guys are my best friends.JFHavoc 17:32, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png I think it looks AWESOME! I also think the Grey background looks a little nicer than the blueish one. But that's just my opinion.
Symphony Master
LevL Fear my mighty instruments!
It looks good, both the grey and the blueish background, though I prefer the blueish one.
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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

I approve, good sir.
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 20:02, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Impressive, Xiggie, thanks for getting all of this prepared. There are a few comments concerns I have, though:
  1. Definitely use the grey background; its monochromatic effect is the same as what we have right now, which I prefer to the blue one. Plus, the blue one seems off-tone with the blue headings and logo.
  2. That blue that you used for the headings looks awfully familiar... is it the same as our previous theme? I was really hoping for the headings to be a lighter blue, to match the color used in the Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep logo. Not aqua, as that is far too bright, but a pale-ish, lighter blue, rather than the bold, plain blue.
  3. The logo looks great; thanks for using color in it, and finding a way to incorporate the word "WIKI" into it. If my memory still serves me the way it should, I believe that was an issue when we remodeled for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.
  4. This is the English Kingdom Hearts Wiki, and therefore, most of our visitors and readers aren't going to be familiar with the Japanese release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Depending of community feedback, perhaps this theme should be saved for the North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. I know that's what we did for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, or perhaps that was because everyone was spending way too much time worrying about a new logo. Luckily, that will not be the case this time.

As of now, nearly all of our administrative and maintenance templates are using characters from Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. I would like to leave the templates like this, despite that we are changing our theme to one that is not Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. The reason is that we have no mugshots to put in the templates, and using full renders would make the templates ridiculously large. There also aren't as many main characters to use. Since Organization XIII and the other main Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days characters are still a large part of the Kingdom Hearts series as a whole, I would like to leave them in the templates. It seems to me that most of our visitors and readers are still coming here for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days information, even though we still have to get a lot of the Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days information into the articles. I'm mainly talking about weapon stats, abilities, and accessories, which we really need to push the community to work on.

If these requests can be put into motion, I will be very pleased, and in complete favor of implementing this theme.

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 20:38, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png I think that it looks better with the blue-ish background. I honestly do. I think we should put it up for Japan's release, so we stay "Up to Date", and we can then commense with template remodels. If it's possible to make Days Sprites or close to it out of the heads of BBS character renders, Xiggie and I will handle this. We've been planning this as our little team pet project for a long time. I think stick to the blue background, and heed DTN's requests for the heading text colors. The gray is just so boring.
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 20:53, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Well, I love a good argument.

The blue background makes the whole page seems like there is too much going on; plus, it takes away the "silouette" look that an achromatic coloring scheme provides. A top-background is meant to be very subtle, and not have a large effect on the overall appearance. The grey one, on the other hand, still retains a coloring with the the dramatic black tiles, as opposed to the light grey ones. Plus, you won't entirely lose that shade of blue, as it will be still be in the headings, as I reqeusted.

As for your wish to remodel the templates, I would still rather they remain the way they are. There are many templates to remodel, and yet very few main characters in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Ventus, Aqua, Terra, Master Eraqus, Master Xehanort, Vanitas, and the apprentices. There is no way you can stretch that out to fit about twenty templates. Plus, you suggest making an image that is not officially made by Square-Enix; is it not our policy to use only image created by Square-Enix? There is no reason for Xiggie to have to create several mugshots that will have actually have a poorer quality compared to actual mugshots from Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days when they won't even look good in the templates. I suggest leaving the maintenance templates as they are, because they already look great, and having to make custom images that won't look as good as what we have now is just redundant and meaningless work.

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons.JFHavoc 20:46, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png I agree with ENX. We should put this up by the time of the Japanese release.
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Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!!
TALK - 20:58, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
Aw that's such a pretty layout Xiggie, no wonder I love stalking visiting your talk page ♥. As for the background choice I'd like the monochromatic one, y'know to keep the same feeling we have now, JUST BBS!! 8D. The date of the new layout release... I agree with DTN in this one, we ARE the English wiki, I mean, we didn't even put in Roxas's Diary the launching of the japanese site for BBS, among other important japanese stuff I don't quite remember atm.

Finally, about what DTN and ENX mentioned about changing all the templates to BBS sleep forms. I don't quite agree to that. with Days was easy seeing there were mugshots similar to CoM, plus they were available quite in time to play around with them in talk bubbles and templates. Like DTN said I don't think we'll have all the crazy ammount of characters we had in Days, and we don't know if there will be mugshots available or if Square will use other way to make characters talk. I think we should keep the templates as they are right now, and wait to see if we get enough material to modify them later.

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 21:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngWhen you phrase it that way, Yermom... I think gray's the way to go. And now that I think about it, we didn't remodel for Days until its English release, so I change the vote to wait until it comes out over here.

DTN, I'm well aware of the Wiki's Image Policy. I didn't mean "Mugshots", per se. What I meant was cropping the renders to show only shoulders-up, sorta like what you uploaded originally for the Terra, Ven, and Aqua Userboxes. We'd then have to find a way to make it not look completely "crappy."

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Xiggie Buy / Sell Welcome! What do you wanna do?

Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 21:37, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Untitled-1.png I agree with DTN and Yer Mom on the template matter. Days has a variety of neat mugshots that are great for template use. BBS will most likely be with almost 100% voiced scenes, so we don't have any sprites to rely on from there. Sure, we could cut the official images, but I think that the Days images should stay in place, as they do not only have their variety of characters and their expressions but they also keep the KH Wiki from focusing on only one game theme at a time.

Now, to answer DTN's "concerns";

  1. I agree! The blue background brings to much "attention" to itself, and that can be very disturbing. The grey one does not demand much "attention" and makes the logo seem more important, yet, it seems to be too different to fit in with the blue theme... I personally think that it hsould be lightened up a little more, to make it less noticeable.
  2. Ahh, I see... I just used the blue from the Sapphire theme, and yes, that is the one we used to have. I think it looks OK, but a bit more cyanic color wouldn't hurt :P
  3. OK, I'm glad you like it :D
  4. I think that we should do it when the game is published (in japan). If visitors don't recognize the characters in the logo, I think they'll just wanna get informed :P that's not a bad thing :P I think that although we are an English KH Wiki, we are a KH Wiki non the less! and we should put up new information as soon as it's out, no matter if it's in japanese or english :P and when we start pouring in info from the japanese BBS, why not just set up the BBS theme to get us and aour visitors in a BBS mood :D
    Anyway, I am pretty sure that the Days theme was put up so late because it took us forever to decide on a new logo and overall theme.


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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 22:08, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png I like it a lot and we should definitely the grey version. As for the logo, maybe we could use their faces from the new boxart? Just a suggestion. I would have to see what it looks like before saying yes or no. If we decide to use those images will they be slightly tinted blue like the Roxas, Axel and Xion faces are slightly tinted red-orange. I also agree with the templates. They do not need to be redone especially since they were just redone. Besides, there are no talk sprites in BBS that we can use. The templates should only have COM or Days sprites.
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FA icon.png Mind if I chip in ? ^_^ The logo looks all fine, and I strongly suggest the grey (or very, very light blue) background. Oh wait, what about the front page ? The Journal and all ? We're going to rename it accordingly, right, once BBS is out ?

Give up on yourself and you give up on the world. TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:17, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


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TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...00:32, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Wow, that looks...wow. Well done, Xiggie. I like the gray best; it's more subtle and makes the rest stand out more. I also like the idea of a lighter blue than our regular sapphire-self so the theme will be noticeably different. I know Japan gets their release in January, right? Any speculation (gasp...speculation!) on when we get one? If it's pretty close, then I say go ahead with it after Christmas; otherwise, I'd wait until the month of release. And yeah, TNE, I think once the game details come out we should do a little renaming like we did last time.
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Bluer says at 02:02, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Just one opinion, kupo, since this doesn't affect a Monobook user such as myself. If we were to instate a gray background, in which most users think are more subtle, we might as well not instate a background color/image at all, kupo. That said, I personally like the bluish background, kupo, and if many do not like it for its unsubtleness, perhaps make it a lighter shade of blue, kupo. Keeping the blue theme entirely seems much better than suddenly donning a neutral gray tone, kupo. Other than that I have nothing more to say,
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FA icon.png Okay, light blue will be a nice option. ^_^

Give up on yourself and you give up on the world. TroisNyxÉtienne — 09:06, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

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FA icon.png I'm not gonna play Merryweather here, but what about Bluer and other Monobook users ? We won't want them to miss out on the fun.

EDIT 09:30, December 17, 2009 (UTC) : On second thought, I'm okay with grey, but I just hope it's visible to all.

Give up on yourself and you give up on the world. TroisNyxÉtienne — 09:26, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

I could go either way, but a light blue background would look nice.
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Bluer says at 13:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
I am pretty sure I'm the only one who uses Monobook, kupo. In any case, it doesn't matter what theme this wiki ends up using, kupo, a creative user would be able to make a custom skin for his/her own, just like what I have right now; ye olde skin all pretty in blue,
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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons.JFHavoc 17:35, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png The blue background gives it too much of a color on color look. I don't really like that. The gray background is nice and you can tell it's a background.
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DarkestofHearts - We may both be different, but that doesn't mean we're the same.
TALK - Look at me,Roxas. Who do you see?
Ooooh, pretty!

I think grey is better, it makes the wiki look different instead of having everything the same color.

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Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds
TALK - 23:49, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Blue: Don't forget me! so I'm the only one who sees the Monobook background >> Anyways, I've been so use to a plain white background or image here and there that it doesn't matter if the Monobook is changed or not. That being said, both look really nice!
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 20:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png So, from what I'm seeing, we've decided on a grey background. The colors for the monaco headers are going to be changed to a pale-aqua to match the game's logo's use of the color, as to my knowledge. The new site logo looks gerat, but I remember reading somewhere that someone wanted to see how it would look if Terra, Aqua, and Ventus's faces from the newly released boxart were used. I actually think this might be better, as the image quality would be better. If not, Xiggie's above logo will still do just fine. Other than that, we need to decide to post the new theme when BbS is released in Japan or in North America. Personally, I now will go either way. If we can get the decisions that need to be made decided on that I have mentioned, this theme will be all set to be put into use.