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This has been bugging me recently. I've always operated under the assumption that this was impossible, & that's why Not-Ansem had to possess Riku. Then the Wiki dropped a bomb on me by arguing that Sora could technically be considered a Heartless until he reunites with Roxas. Up until then, I'd assumed that he was incomplete, but still fundamentally a normal person. Not a Heartless. I'm still not sure which interpretation is true. But supposing he is a Heartless, he's able to wield the Keyblade, but presumably wasn't in his Shadow form. And even if that's not true, we still have to wonder why a Nobody can use a Keyblade, but a Heartless can't. It's all very confusing, anyone think that they can shed some light on this?[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] ([[User talk:Neo Bahamut|talk]]) 01:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
This has been bugging me recently. I've always operated under the assumption that this was impossible, & that's why Not-Ansem had to possess Riku. Then the Wiki dropped a bomb on me by arguing that Sora could technically be considered a Heartless until he reunites with Roxas. Up until then, I'd assumed that he was incomplete, but still fundamentally a normal person. Not a Heartless. I'm still not sure which interpretation is true. But supposing he is a Heartless, he's able to wield the Keyblade, but presumably wasn't in his Shadow form. And even if that's not true, we still have to wonder why a Nobody can use a Keyblade, but a Heartless can't. It's all very confusing, anyone think that they can shed some light on this?[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] ([[User talk:Neo Bahamut|talk]]) 01:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


{{TLL13|time=Taylorlauntnerlvr13 11:57, 6 September 2013 (UTC)|talk=All I know is that the nobodies can't use keyblades, with the exceptions of Roxas and Xion. I suppose Namine COULD since she is Kairi, really. The heartless cant weild keyblades. Anti-Sora is the Sora heartless you are thinking of. Its called Anti-Form, not Shadow form, by the way..... Also, the reason Roxas and Xion can use the keyblades is because they are essentially Sora. Therefore, Heartless can't use keyblades because they are evil. Does that help???}}
{{TLL13|time=Taylorlauntnerlvr13 14:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)|talk=All I know is that the nobodies can't use keyblades, with the exceptions of Roxas and Xion. I suppose Namine COULD since she is Kairi, really. The heartless cant weild keyblades. Anti-Sora is the Sora heartless you are thinking of. Its called Anti-Form, not Shadow form, by the way..... Also, the reason Roxas and Xion can use the keyblades is because they are essentially Sora. Therefore, Heartless can't use keyblades because they are evil. Does that help???}}
:Oh, my, no. There's nothing to say that Nobodies, in general, can't use the Keyblade. So far, all we know is that Nobodies & Replicas of Keyblade Wielders can, except Xemnas, for some reason or another. Anti-Form is not a Heartless, & is distinct from Anti-Sora, which near as I can tell is a Heartless that copies Sora's appearance--but its Keyblade is probably fake. The Heartless to which I am referring is (1) Sora, transformed into a Shadow, in Hollow Bastion & (2) Sora, from the end of KH1 until the beginning of KH2. For 2, we don't know that he is technically considered a Heartless at this time, but that's the Wiki's general position which, if true, leads to this question. Being evil is not a barrier towards using the Keyblade, & it's also kind of a subjective term.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] ([[User talk:Neo Bahamut|talk]]) 21:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
:Oh, my, no. There's nothing to say that Nobodies, in general, can't use the Keyblade. So far, all we know is that Nobodies & Replicas of Keyblade Wielders can, except Xemnas, for some reason or another. Anti-Form is not a Heartless, & is distinct from Anti-Sora, which near as I can tell is a Heartless that copies Sora's appearance--but its Keyblade is probably fake. The Heartless to which I am referring is (1) Sora, transformed into a Shadow, in Hollow Bastion & (2) Sora, from the end of KH1 until the beginning of KH2. For 2, we don't know that he is technically considered a Heartless at this time, but that's the Wiki's general position which, if true, leads to this question. Being evil is not a barrier towards using the Keyblade, & it's also kind of a subjective term.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] ([[User talk:Neo Bahamut|talk]]) 21:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
{{TLL13|time=Taylorlauntnerlvr13 14:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)|talk=Well, then, you answered your own question, i guess.....}}

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This has been bugging me recently. I've always operated under the assumption that this was impossible, & that's why Not-Ansem had to possess Riku. Then the Wiki dropped a bomb on me by arguing that Sora could technically be considered a Heartless until he reunites with Roxas. Up until then, I'd assumed that he was incomplete, but still fundamentally a normal person. Not a Heartless. I'm still not sure which interpretation is true. But supposing he is a Heartless, he's able to wield the Keyblade, but presumably wasn't in his Shadow form. And even if that's not true, we still have to wonder why a Nobody can use a Keyblade, but a Heartless can't. It's all very confusing, anyone think that they can shed some light on this?Neo Bahamut (talk) 01:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


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TaylorLautner<3^.^ Why did the Keyblade choose me?... I have to know...— Taylorlauntnerlvr13 14:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
All I know is that the nobodies can't use keyblades, with the exceptions of Roxas and Xion. I suppose Namine COULD since she is Kairi, really. The heartless cant weild keyblades. Anti-Sora is the Sora heartless you are thinking of. Its called Anti-Form, not Shadow form, by the way..... Also, the reason Roxas and Xion can use the keyblades is because they are essentially Sora. Therefore, Heartless can't use keyblades because they are evil. Does that help???
Oh, my, no. There's nothing to say that Nobodies, in general, can't use the Keyblade. So far, all we know is that Nobodies & Replicas of Keyblade Wielders can, except Xemnas, for some reason or another. Anti-Form is not a Heartless, & is distinct from Anti-Sora, which near as I can tell is a Heartless that copies Sora's appearance--but its Keyblade is probably fake. The Heartless to which I am referring is (1) Sora, transformed into a Shadow, in Hollow Bastion & (2) Sora, from the end of KH1 until the beginning of KH2. For 2, we don't know that he is technically considered a Heartless at this time, but that's the Wiki's general position which, if true, leads to this question. Being evil is not a barrier towards using the Keyblade, & it's also kind of a subjective term.Neo Bahamut (talk) 21:39, 6 September 2013 (UTC)



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TaylorLautner<3^.^ Why did the Keyblade choose me?... I have to know...— Taylorlauntnerlvr13 14:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, then, you answered your own question, i guess.....