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* [[Template talk:Enemy/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - July 14, 2010
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*O=x1.0
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== To add: ==
==Todo==
*<s>Recode "Somebody" to not show up.</s>
Okay, here's what I have left for the enemy template:
*<s>Add "VA" to frontbox</s>
*Finish "Themes" image for the songs.
*<s>Add "Charworld" to frontbox</s>
;KHII
*<s>Add "Charorigin" to frontbox</s>
*<s>Add a charsong box to frontbox</s>
*<s>KHII coliseum box should be "round" instead of "seed"?</s>
*<s>Days coliseum?</s>
*<s>Recode Days to operate like BbS</s>
*<s>Split BbS rewards per character</s> (DONE FOR BOSS REWARDS ONLY, IS THIS NECESSARY FOR REGULAR ENEMIES)
*<s>Split BbS shop levels into 1-8 (10?) custom entries</s>
*<s>Look into blank space between BbS tabs</s>
*<s>Add Mirage Arena infobox</s> (NEED STATS FOR MONSTER OF THE DEEP)
*Confirm that normal BbS enemies don't have resistances: if so, have the resistance box droppable
*<s>Add BbS drop rates?</s> (DROP RATES ARE HAND-CODED)
*Add Re:coded stats and journal, recode Re:coded stats to operate like BbS
 
<blockquote>Now there are two different level systems in BBS, one for the [http://heartstation.org/gallery/albums/birth-by-sleep/ultimania/bbsu%20077.png Mirage Arena] (the difficulty level) and one for the [http://heartstation.org/gallery/albums/birth-by-sleep/ultimania/bbsu%20076.png normal gameplay].
Therefore a Bruiser in the Challenge "Day of Reckoning" (e.g. Round 1, 3rd wave) should have 90 HP whereas in "Weaver Fever" (e.g. Round 1, 1st wave) it should have 108 HP.
I didn't translate every stat and explanation, because I'm very slow at it, so maybe there is more to take account off. The stats may have also be changened in the NA/PAL version, I don't know. I hope some of this helps anyway.
 
I'm planning to get the BBS Ultimania, but not at the moment.}}
 
I'm using part of Neumannz work for the Mirage Arena on this one:
{|style="float: left; border:solid 2px #000000;-moz-border-radius:10px; text-align:center" align="center";" width="100%"
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Difficulty'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Match'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HP'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''EXP'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Strength'''
| align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Defense'''
|-
|rowspan="2"|★☆☆☆☆||Day of Reckoning, Risky Riches||50||10||13||4
|-
||Wheels of Misfortune||55||12||16||5
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|rowspan="2"|★★☆☆☆||Weaver Fever, Dead Ringer||60||15||19||7
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
||Sinister Sentinel||75||19||21||10
|-
|rowspan="2"|★★★☆☆||Treasure Tussle||75||19||21||10
|-
||Combined Threat, Harsh Punishment||85||27||24||13
|- bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|★★★★☆||A Time to Chill, Copycat Crisis||105||45||30||16
|-
|rowspan="2"|★★★★★||Keepers of the Arena||130||63||36||19
|-
||Villain's Vendetta||N/A||N/A||40||20
|-
|
|}
 
Strength and Defense are fixed, HP and EXP must be multiplied (except for the bosses). --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 08:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
</blockquote>
 
Coliseum infobox changes:
*"Seed" > "Round"
*Team
*Rules
*Tournament Level
*Attendees (what is this?)
*Jiminy's challenges
:With attendee I meant the party members who actually fight, because some cup are Sora only for example. The enemy with the most shop level entries is Red Hot Chilli (1-2, 3, 4, 5-6 & 7-8) so we won't need more than five customizable entries. I made a comparison shot between Ultimania and Bradygames so it can be seen that status resistances aren't listed for normal enemies and the guys at Bradygames are lazy bums. [http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2232/ultimaniabradygames.png] --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 21:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 
:Ripped from charinfobox, not sure if we want to keep:
<pre>
|style="background:#FFF59D"|'''Role'''
|style="color:white; background:#DAA520"|{{{role}}}
|-</pre>
 
The "role" bit seems like all it's ever given us is hooey. If people really want it kept, I can code it in and have it auto-categorize, but we really need to discuss what that parameter is ''for''.
 
For the charsong bit: I'm thinking an eighth note on one side of the row, a quarter note on the other. Possibly a DisneyTown-font or KingdomHearts-font text as well. Something that's small and aesthetically pleasing, but makes it clear that "Here there be music!"{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:18, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:Per BbS stat resistances: I was pretty sure that BbS had all normal enemies have x1.0 resistance to statuses. Can you check the beginning of the Ultimania bestiary?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:41, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
::Also, can you get the stats for Monster of the Deep?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
:::Well, the list is incomplete since so many of our Mirage Arena cup pages are unfinished, but it looks like the Bruiser probably appears in the most rounds of the Arena. I'm going to base the parameters on that guy, and if we end up needing more, we can always just copy-paste some.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:24, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, there is not much discussion about these matters here, just the two of us. Maybe we should put the merged character/enemy infobox and the stats we want to use on the list of the next roundtable, so we get more input. Maybe I can convince Erry or As if! to work on the notes, they are way more talented than I am (the notes are taken from KHII Atlantica by the way, I think the Ice Cream Beat uses only some notes effects I haven't discovered yet). As for the "Monster of the Deep", there isn't a official guide available that covers the new arena matches in the Final Mix (because the Navigation Master Guide sucks), so the best I found is [http://wikiwiki.jp/kh_bbsfm/?cmd=read&page=%A5%DF%A5%E9%A1%BC%A5%B8%A5%E5%A5%A2%A5%EA%A1%BC%A5%CA%2F%A5%A2%A5%EA%A1%BC%A5%CA%A5%E2%A1%BC%A5%C9&word=%C2%E7%B3%A4%B8%B6%A4%CE%B2%F8%CA%AA%20 this]. It's not really helpful, so I think I have to start to count the enemies.
The stat explanation from the BBS Ultimania was not uploaded by Heartstation and I still don't have the guide myself, and Bradygames only mentions the elemental weaknesses, so I can't tell you if your're right about that.--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 13:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 
:Okay, here's what I have left for the enemy template:
*Revise Re:coded infobox based on Ultimania.
*Check KHIIFM Ultimania whether it has a base stats table; if so, recode using the BbS layout
*Check KHIIFM Ultimania whether it has a base stats table; if so, recode using the BbS layout
;KHBbS
*Confirm whether BbS enemies and bosses drop rewards in the Games.
*Confirm whether BbS enemies and bosses drop rewards in the Games.
*Check BbS Ultimania whether minor enemies have x1.0 for all resistances. Decide whether no listed resistances means "assume x1.0".
*Confirm whether rewards need to be character-split for minor enemies in BbS.
*Confirm whether rewards need to be character-split for minor enemies in BbS.
*Get base stats for Monster of the Deep. (can someone get EXP totals for one enemy, like the Bruiser?)
*Get base stats for Monster of the Deep. (can someone get EXP totals for one enemy, like the Bruiser?)
*Check BbS Ultimania whether minor enemies have x1.0 for all resistances. Decide whether no listed resistances means "assume x1.0".
*Decide what to do about base drop modifier for BbS (hover text? ref?)
*Decide what to do about base drop modifier for BbS (hover text? ref?)
*Finish "Themes" image for the songs.
*Do the BBSLV switch stats need an update for the Secret Episode?
*Do the BBSLV switch stats need an update for the Secret Episode?
;KHRe:c
*Revise Re:coded infobox based on Ultimania.


I can do the Re:coded and BbS Olympus bits myself, but everything else I need people to get the info for me. For the Re:coded bit, I also need help translating the stats and how to read them, and for the BbS Olympus bit, I need those pages finished so I know what's going on in them (do the Unversed have the same stats in the Games as out of them?).
I can do the Re:coded and BbS Olympus bits myself, but everything else I need people to get the info for me. For the Re:coded bit, I also need help translating the stats and how to read them, and for the BbS Olympus bit, I need those pages finished so I know what's going on in them (do the Unversed have the same stats in the Games as out of them?).
== Re:coded journal ==
Which parameter do we use for Re:coded's journal entry? Do we use journalCOD or do we have to add a new parameter? - [[User:LevL|<span style="color:orange">'''Lev'''</span>]][[User talk:LevL|<span style="color:deepskyblue">'''L'''</span>]] 09:44, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
== Bbs stats ==
Just a few comments about the BBS template:
*The overall droprate doesn't seem to be considered at the moment. Why?
*Normal enemies don't have any status resistances listed anywhere. Is it possible to just show them for bosses?
*The shop level has to be more customizable. There is also 3-5, 6-8 or only 4 for example.
*There seems to be an unnecessary gap between the KHBbS tab and the Terra/Aqua/Ven tab. Can it be removed?
--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 20:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
:What do you mean by "overall drop rate"? Are you talking about whether the enemies drop something ''at all''? If that's not calculated into the drop percentages listed in the guides, then we need someone to get that base percentage and confirm how it modifies those listed in the guide. It would have to be in the documentation here, though, since percentages are entered by hand.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, that's the problem. There is only a base drop rate to get an item at all and then it's calculated what item you're getting exactly. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 13:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
== BBS Rewards (Vanitas Boss page) ==
Someone needs to fix the reward template so that it can work in [[Vanitas (Boss)|Vanitas Boss page]] since there is no possible way for it to work there. I really don't understand the coding very well so if I try doing something myself I would just mess up the whole template. {{User:Xabryn/Sig}} 02:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
:What are you talking about?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 03:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
The reward part of the template it doesn't work in Vanitas Boss page since he is fought by all three characters with different stats, both Masked Boy and Vanitas (Unmasked) work because there is only one battle but Vanitas (Masked) won't. {{User:Xabryn/Sig}} 11:33, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


== Re:c stats to cover ==
== Re:c stats to cover ==
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Shard, can you get scans of p 280, 281, 314-318? I will need help translating these, it's a bit dense for me.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Shard, can you get scans of p 280, 281, 314-318? I will need help translating these, it's a bit dense for me.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:I uploaded page 280 and 281 together with the enemy pages a while age, so there are still [http://www.mediafire.com/?oblhok035z3sczt here]. It won't be able to scan the other pages until november, sorry. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 13:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
:I uploaded page 280 and 281 together with the enemy pages a while age, so there are still [http://www.mediafire.com/?oblhok035z3sczt here]. It won't be able to scan the other pages until november, sorry. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 13:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
==Todo (Coliseum infobox)==
Coliseum infobox changes:
*"Seed" > "Round"
*Team
*Rules
*Tournament Level
*Attendees (Sora or party?)
*Jiminy's challenges

Revision as of 19:46, 24 October 2011

Archive
Archives

CoM resistances

Elemental

  • Circle=x1.5
  • O=x1.0
  • Triangle=x0.5
  • X=0
  • 吸収=Absorb (Victim absorbs as much HP as the attack normally inflicts)
  • 気絶=Stun (Inflicts normal damage and stuns the opponent)

Status

  • O=x1.0
  • Triangle=x0.5 (x0.33 for Magnet)
  • X=x0

BbS resistances

  • 以外=no resistance to anything but "this" (assume x0 for "this")
  • すべて=no resistance to anything
  • なし=no vulnerabilities
  • X=0
  • O=x1.0

Todo

Okay, here's what I have left for the enemy template:

  • Finish "Themes" image for the songs.
KHII
  • Check KHIIFM Ultimania whether it has a base stats table; if so, recode using the BbS layout
KHBbS
  • Confirm whether BbS enemies and bosses drop rewards in the Games.
  • Check BbS Ultimania whether minor enemies have x1.0 for all resistances. Decide whether no listed resistances means "assume x1.0".
  • Confirm whether rewards need to be character-split for minor enemies in BbS.
  • Get base stats for Monster of the Deep. (can someone get EXP totals for one enemy, like the Bruiser?)
  • Decide what to do about base drop modifier for BbS (hover text? ref?)
  • Do the BBSLV switch stats need an update for the Secret Episode?
KHRe
c
  • Revise Re:coded infobox based on Ultimania.

I can do the Re:coded and BbS Olympus bits myself, but everything else I need people to get the info for me. For the Re:coded bit, I also need help translating the stats and how to read them, and for the BbS Olympus bit, I need those pages finished so I know what's going on in them (do the Unversed have the same stats in the Games as out of them?).

Re:c stats to cover

True Zantetsuken does not affect bosses, effectivity chart on p 276 Bosses have set HP, enemy HP cheat on p 31 Tables on p 281? Bug enemies p 199?

  • worlds
  • HP factor (what is bit in parentheses?)
  • Defensive power?
  • Drops: EXP, HP Ball, Munny, Drop Items (Beginner, Standard, Proud, Critical, percentages)
  • Elemental resistances (Fire, Blizzard, Thunder, Aero)
  • Status resistances (Circle, Triangle, X): Ignite, Freeze, Jolt, Air-toss, Slow, Stop, Confuse, Stun, Magnet
  • Special Boss types?: ? Scroll Action, 3D Shooting, Turn ? RPG


Shard, can you get scans of p 280, 281, 314-318? I will need help translating these, it's a bit dense for me."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded page 280 and 281 together with the enemy pages a while age, so there are still here. It won't be able to scan the other pages until november, sorry. --ShardofTruth 13:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Todo (Coliseum infobox)

Coliseum infobox changes:

  • "Seed" > "Round"
  • Team
  • Rules
  • Tournament Level
  • Attendees (Sora or party?)
  • Jiminy's challenges
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