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Therefore, it is my opinion that we can safely and fairly upload the entirety of music tracks from the series onto the wiki for the purpose of these music articles. There is no reason to believe Square Enix would mind, and there is a logical argument for our use of them to fall under Fair Use. I only advise caution with two tracks, those being "{{wl|Simple and Clean}}" and "{{wl|Sanctuary}}". On YouTube, those are the only tracks that are ever taken down in connection to the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series, and the openings and credits are always muted voluntarily or by force (in which case, the whole video ends up muted). The reason is that unlike "{{wl|Dearly Beloved}}" and "{{wl|Daydream Upon Neverland}}", Square Enix doesn't hold the rights to "Simple and Clean" and "Sanctuary", [[wikipedia:EMI Music Japan|EMI Music Japan Inc.]] does. It's noted in the game credits and such, and when the videos are taken down, EMI Music Japan is noted to have made the claim, not Square Enix. But other than those two tracks, I personally believe that we are in the clear when it comes to uploading the tracks to the wiki. And the way the wiki's set up, we don't make it easy for people to download the entirety of any album from the wiki, as the files are in .ogg (a generally unsupported format when it comes to personal music playback) and each file is on its own separate page, making downloading files a tedious and time-costly time. Thus, I believe that we would not be violating copyright laws by uploading the full tracks to the wiki.}} | Therefore, it is my opinion that we can safely and fairly upload the entirety of music tracks from the series onto the wiki for the purpose of these music articles. There is no reason to believe Square Enix would mind, and there is a logical argument for our use of them to fall under Fair Use. I only advise caution with two tracks, those being "{{wl|Simple and Clean}}" and "{{wl|Sanctuary}}". On YouTube, those are the only tracks that are ever taken down in connection to the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series, and the openings and credits are always muted voluntarily or by force (in which case, the whole video ends up muted). The reason is that unlike "{{wl|Dearly Beloved}}" and "{{wl|Daydream Upon Neverland}}", Square Enix doesn't hold the rights to "Simple and Clean" and "Sanctuary", [[wikipedia:EMI Music Japan|EMI Music Japan Inc.]] does. It's noted in the game credits and such, and when the videos are taken down, EMI Music Japan is noted to have made the claim, not Square Enix. But other than those two tracks, I personally believe that we are in the clear when it comes to uploading the tracks to the wiki. And the way the wiki's set up, we don't make it easy for people to download the entirety of any album from the wiki, as the files are in .ogg (a generally unsupported format when it comes to personal music playback) and each file is on its own separate page, making downloading files a tedious and time-costly time. Thus, I believe that we would not be violating copyright laws by uploading the full tracks to the wiki.}} | ||
It's one thing to believe that they wouldn't come after us. However, it's another thing if they did come after us. Truth be told, so long as we can argue that we have a right to using the full tracks, I'm okay with using the full length...so long as we are prepared for the worst case scenario. My worry is that they will come after us- for whatever reason. Are there any other Wikis that do use the full length track? Last I remember, most followed the thirty second rule. Should they demand a removal of the full track, we can easily do that and go back to thirty second snip-its. Wasn't there an older discussion on this somewhere? (Perhaps Kryten would remember?) {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 20:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC) | It's one thing to believe that they wouldn't come after us. However, it's another thing if they did come after us. Truth be told, so long as we can argue that we have a right to using the full tracks, I'm okay with using the full length...so long as we are prepared for the worst case scenario. My worry is that they will come after us- for whatever reason. Are there any other Wikis that do use the full length track? Last I remember, most followed the thirty second rule. Should they demand a removal of the full track, we can easily do that and go back to thirty second snip-its. Wasn't there an older discussion on this somewhere? (Perhaps Kryten would remember?) {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 20:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
==Reopening== | |||
{{Xion4ever|time=17:37, 16 June 2020 (UTC)|text=Since we're going to have even more music articles to mess with in the future *cough* Melody of Memories *cough* I'm revisiting the music articles/reopening this thread. As I mentioned in our Discord server, I forget when exactly we discussed it, but I recall us wanting to trim the composition sections? Something along the lines of determining what was truly noteworthy to have in the article. | |||
To me, the composition sections are basically musical "fluff" that we can add just to add to the article to help readers understand some of the musical things taking place- hence the musical jargon and analysis. However, I think, for our sanity and sake, the music articles are fine without that specific section- especially to finish creating the individual music articles to wipe out this eyesore of text: [[List of Kingdom Hearts series tracks|click]]. That said, if we want to still add the Composition sections to each individual music article but place a <nowiki>{{sec-stub}}</nowiki> template on it, that's fine by me.}} | |||
