Editing Template talk:DriveForm

==Color change?==
{{Uxie|time=14:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)|angela=Yeah, the template's coming along. One idea we should add to it is that the box should be the color of the form it reprisents (eg: Valor - Red). I know a few guys that can help with the box color change.}}

{{MEX|time="Look Sharp!"|text=Wow very good idea! Thanks! Can you tell him to help us? Oh, one more thing I didn't have awsnered because i'm new and I forgot to see the discussion page, sorry.}}

== Ok, but ==

Considering we got rid of our last form infobox, lets make sure this thing serves some kind of purpose before you go any further on it.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 14:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
::[[User_talk:KrytenKoro#Drive_Form_crap|Here]]'s my view on an infobox for drive Forms. Basically, it doesn't seem like it would improve the presentation and legibility of the information.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

{{Dark-EnigmaXIII|time=18:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)|text2=As Kryten said, an infobox for driveforms doesnt seem to be utterly neccesary, though it's not detrimental either. You should gather some more oppinions on the usefulness of this template, and work with it more so it can be further customized, like beign able to change the colors. As for the infobox itself:

*Obtained should be clear and concise, instead of "''Along with Sora's new clothes at Mysterious Tower''", just ''Mysterious Tower'' is enough.
*Form color should be the color of the infobox, not a cell by itself. Able to be customized according to the form.
*Im not even sure if Represents is really neccesary...
*the status screen description should deffinetely '''not''' be in the infobox.

Otherwise, it doesnt look like if it could do harm.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I don't think there's really any point to having "obtained" if it's just the world, and if it's the full thing, it doesn't make sense to put it in an infobox.
*Form color isn't a canon quality, and shouldn't be listed as if it was.
*Status screen is unnecessary.
*"Represents" is probably going to be too wordy, and is in the lead for all of these anyway.
*I would reorganize Gauge Consumption and Support Characters into: "Consumes", like so:}}

{|style="float: right; border:solid 2px #FF0000; -moz-border-radius: 10px; text-align:center" align="center" width="234px"
|-
|colspan="3" style="text-align:center; color:black; background:#FF0000; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 0.5em; -moz-border-radius-topright: 0.5em;"|'''{{{name|}}}'''
|-
|colspan="3" style="text-align:center"|{{{image|}}}<br><small>''"{{{desc|}}}"''</small>
|- 
|colspan="2" style="background:#FF0000"|'''Kana'''
|style="background:#FFB59D"|{{{kana|}}}
|-
|colspan="2" style="background:#FF0000"|'''Romaji'''
|style="background:#FFB59D"|''{{{romaji|}}}''
|- 
|colspan="2" style="background:#FF0000"|'''Growth Ability'''
|style="background:#FFB59D"|{{{ability|}}}
|-  
|rowspan="2" style="background:#FF0000"|'''Consumes'''
|style="background:#FF0000"|'''Drive'''
|style="background:#FFB59D"|{{{drive|}}}
|- 
|style="background:#FF0000"|'''Allies'''
|style="background:#FFB59D"|{{{allies|}}}
|}

with drive just being the number, rather than a full sentence. The background and text color can be handled with a switch template similar to Style.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.195|192.249.47.195]] 16:56, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

{{MEX|time="Look Sharp!"|text=Thanks for all ideas. I will use them to make a VERY GOOD template that would be really usefull. About the things that KrytenKoro didn't understand, I removed them. Brazilians normally understand these things, so when I translated it got strange. "Boosts" would be like if it would boost, in Valor for example, the running ability, or jumping. Oh, one more thing I didn't have awsnered because I'm new and, because of that, I forgot to see the discussion page, sorry.}}
{{KrytenKoro|The issue wasn't that I didn't understand, but that a Form ''doesn't actually boost those things''. What it does is give you a new set of active and passive abilities which provide ''all'' the gameplay effects beyond the color change to Sora's clothes.

Also, the width of the infobox needs to be standardized, there should probably be a "desc" underneath the image, and the image should have a white background isntead of whichever color the table has. and the orb thing you did below, which could be easily coded. Once those are done, I would put these up for consideration in the forums.}}

== A new idea ==

{{MEX|time=17:00, 07 February, 2012 (UTC)|text= I had an idea. You know these boxes where you put the heartless symbol, or the unversed or of the dream eaters? What you think of putting one with the Drive Form Orb? About the color i found a way, just testing.}}

{{MEX|time=16:00, 09 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=But, what about the Final and Anti forms? They don't have orbs. What can we do? Also, do you really think that the border of the rows with the same color of the background are really better?.}}

{{KrytenKoro|Not sure what you mean about the border; I just separated out the color/color2 code you had done into a switch function. Final and Anti Form can just have a blank square there, it's fine.

We need to standardize the width of the columns so that Anti Form's doesn't act like that even though it's empty, or we need to turn that into a switched section so that it doesn't appear at all. Do we want to allow sprites (gauge sprite, basically) for this, like the enmy template has? Also, can I add the code to include foreign wiki linking?

Finally, the descs still need to be added so that they appear as image captions. Once we address these issues and have each infobox coded up, we should open up a forum to see if people like them.}}

{{MEX|time=16:00, 09 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=Guy, you're helping me a lot with this. Thanks. You know who moved the tests and added the HT, TM, Sp and CT forms here? I want to thanks him, since I would not be able to do that alone now, not used with coding ya know?}}
{{KrytenKoro|That was me. Also, can you get me a screenshot of the Limit Form description, in Japanese? There is no way that the translation you were given was right.}}
{{MEX|time=15:30, 10 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=Thanks! Of course I can get a screenshot, not of high quality but legible.}}

Not the description from the mirror, the description in the main menu.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 16:01, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

{{MEX|time=16:15, 10 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=Yeah. That's why I can't get it now. My brother is with my video-game, so... Until tomorrow noon I'm certainly I will put it here.}}

{{MEX|time=16:50, 10 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=Would be good if we find a place to put the form sprites?And the status increases. I can get them. We can put a row like the "Consumes", but instead, "status increases" and in front Strength, defense and magic. This if it would not make the infobox very big.}}

{{KrytenKoro|There seriously aren't any. You can compare your stats before and after, they are exactly the same. All that changes is that the Form replaces your Action abilities, adds to your Support abilities, upgrades the respective Growth ability, and if it has Synch Blade, lets you use the second Equipment ability. Nothing other than the color of your clothes and your list of abilities is actually changed.}}

{{KrytenKoro|Also, we need to get the sprites to arrange neatly somehow. Possibly by setting up white-bordered columns, or arranging them differently.}}

{{MEX|time=12:03, 11 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=I noticed about the stats, you are right. Okay, thanks for putting the sprites, you are very good with coding. There are the screenshots of the descripitions. I did various to see all letters. [http://s1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj606/MateusinhoEX/]}}

Sorry, that's still the wrong one. Go to the MAIN stats screen, NOT the Limit Form stats screen, and move the cursor down to the Limit Form. Do you know what I'm saying?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 00:23, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

{{MEX|time=12:03, 11 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=Strange. That's what I've done. Entered status on the main menu, then, put on Limit Form and retrived a screenshot of it. You are sure it isn't right? The first letters are the same of the Limit Form. Here:リミット技を使いこなすフォームです.}}

Let me be sure. You went to the Stats screen, selected Sora's name, scrolled down to the purple item with the word リミット , and it still said that?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 13:16, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

{{MEX|time=15:58, 11 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=The pruple descriptions aren't the right ones. They are the same, changing only the form's name.}}

{{MEX|time=15:58, 11 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=Is there a way to make the sprite change along with the image in the box, instead of putting all of them together?}}

{{MEX|time=18:50, 11 February, 2012 (UTC)|text=This is the complete description:

"リミットフォームのステー タスです。リミット技を使いこなすフォームです。"

Using google tradutor it says:"The status of the limit form. Form limit is to use the techniques."
I think a good translation would be:"A form to use limit techniques."}}

== Examples and Tests ==

<pre>
{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name= Input the form name.
|kana= Input form name in japanese.
|romaji= Input form name in japanese Romaji.
|ability= Input the form's growth ability.
|drive= Input how many drive bars it uses.
|allies= Input which/many allies the form uses.
|desc= Input form description.
}}
</pre>
{{-}}

{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name=Anti Form
|kana=アンチフォーム
|romaji=Anchi Fōmu
|fr=Non-forme
|es=Lucha contra el Forma
|ability=Anti Glide
|drive=All
|allies=Both
}}
{{-}}

{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name=Valor Form
|kana=ブレイヴフォーム
|romaji=Bureivu Fōmu
|fr=Forme Vaillance
|es=Valor Forma
|ability=High Jump
|drive=3
|allies=Goofy
|desc=A Form specializing in physical attacks.
}}
{{-}}

{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name=Wisdom Form
|kana=ウィズダムフォーム
|romaji=Wizudamu Fōmu
|fr=Forme Sagesse
|es=la sabiduría forma
|ability=Quick Run
|drive=3 
|allies=Donald
|desc=A Form specializing in magic attacks.
}}
{{-}}

{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name=Limit Form
|kana=リミットフォーム
|romaji=Rimitto Fōmu
|fr=Limit Form
|es=Límite Forma
|ability=Dodge Roll
|drive=4
|allies=None
|desc=A Form that handles Limit techniques.
}}
{{-}}

{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name=Master Form
|kana=マスターフォーム
|romaji=Masutā Fōmu
|fr=Forme Maîtrise
|es=maestro de formulario
|ability=Aerial Dodge
|drive=4 
|allies=Both
|desc=A Form that handles both the Keyblade and magic.
}}
{{-}}

{{User:MateusinhoEX/DriveForm
|name=Final Form
|kana=ファイナルフォーム
|romaji=Fainaru Fōmu
|fr=Forme Suprême
|es=Forma Definitiva
|ability=Glide
|drive=5
|allies=Both
|desc=A Form that unleashes the Keyblade's true power.
}}
{{-}}

{{MEX|time=It looks like my summer vacation is... over.|text=Now the drive form project is getting good. I want to thanks everyone that is helping, principally KrytenKoro, that helped me alot with the coding, if you think, he may even had done more than me, and Neummanz, the only administrator that awsnered me and also helped. Thanks.}}
{{KrytenKoro|emotion=happy|The coding looks complete. We need Neumannz to check the descriptions for accuracy real quick, and for Erry to check whether he can get the Anti Form description. If you can add in the foreign-language links (fr, de, es), too, then this should be ready to post in the forums for community approval.

I've gotta say, Mateus, this thing looks bloody awesome. It was a great idea of yours.}}

http://i.imgur.com/C0Bwk.gif

Credit goes to Erry.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 21:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
{{KrytenKoro|So, was he able to get Anti? Or is that him saying it's not possible?}}

Not necessarily either, I just asked him for the descriptions of all the drive forms, english and japanese, but didn't ask whether he could even find one for Anti.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:28, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== KH3 ==

Okay, so I'm pretty sure that sprites no longer change, right? Just an overall one for the world costume. So, we'd want to just have models of the standard, toy, monster, and pirate designs for each form.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
::Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, Sora's health bar sprite ''does'' change. Example: silver monster fur in Monstropolis while in Ultimate Form. Not only is this seen in the model, but also reflected in the sprite. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 15:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
:::Notice the red-furred sprite in [https://www.kingdomhearts.com/img/screenshots/three/46.jpg this image], for instance. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I didn't notice that. Hmm. I guess then all we need to do to make this KH3-ready is switch out the Christmas/Halloween/Space slots for Monster/Pirate/Toy slots.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
::::Okay, we'll need to try to figure out how to get good images of the various forms and sprites, and we need to program in color themes for blitz and second, but it should be workable now. Please ping if there are any issues.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)