Talk:Way to the Dawn

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I posted yesterday that Riku obtained Way to Dawn by transforming soul eater. I believe that Nomura stated this in an Interview, I'll try to find it.

Well, even if Nomura does say that Riku transformed the Soul Eater into WttD (well, this is pretty obvious anyway), did he specify how?
I suppose not, but up until i changed it the page had said that there was no explaination given for how he obtained Way to Dawn. I'm not trying to be stubborn but I think that we should mention as much as we know.

Thank god for Final Mix.DannyP 02:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts appearance?[edit]

I was replaying through a couple of parts yesterday, and I was just curious if anyone else sees what I see. If you watch when Riku meets up with Sora in Traverse Town the first time after they're separated, take the oppertunity look closely at the Keyblade in his hands. You don't see much of it, but from what little you do see, the hilt looks an awful lot like Way to the Dawn... BebopKate 07:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

This might be a redundant question, considering that it is mentioned in the very first line in the article, but could you perhaps be mistaking it for the Soul Eater..? --Hecko X 12:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Not sure. I would have said Soul Eater at first, but it seemed to have the open-style hilt of Way to the Dawn, with the half-blue, half-white. I'll check it again when I get the chance. BebopKate 18:57, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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FA icon.png I don't know. Looks like Soul Eater to me.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne

RedemptionUltima - What IS he!?! No one's EVER worn the darkness the way that he does! It's impossible!
TALK - See my illusion!
It IS the Soul Eater.

Soul Eater Theory[edit]

It think it's possible that the Soul Eater is the dark part of WTTD due to Riku submitting to darkness and the dark keyblade being taken by Mickey. Myself 123 18:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Director's Secret report[edit]

Again nomura never specifies it's alignment just that"It's naturally the same type as Sora's"

KrytenKoro - "It's always best when the other chap is willing to die for his beliefs; you both have the same goal in mind."
Please read the report.

I was the one who introduced that report to this site.ass.

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FA icon.png You were the one who introduced that report but did you read it carefully enough ? Stop calling other people names if you're unsure of it.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne

there are still unknown variables. another report says "Naturally the same type as" not "Realm of light keyblade" the two don't mean the same thing and it is a misrepresntation of a source. I could post "Another report says sora is a rubber chicken" and it wouldn't be any more or less true.(and there is such thing as "The exception that proves the rule")

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FA icon.png Naturally the same type as = Light alignment. What other "type" would you use to distinguish a Keyblade, of all things ? Keyblades are weapons of light, generally, but they are distinguished by Realm. Mickey's is a weapon of Light, but acquired from the Realm of Darkness, which makes it different from that of Sora's. I think that's evidence in itself : take a look at the Keyblade itself as a weapon and see what you can make of it.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne

but there are other possible meanings.uh,"Keyblade of peoples hearts" vs "Heart of worlds keyblade". Both are from destiny islands.Both are "Skeleton Key" as opposed to "Pin-tumbler lock key" Both good guys. maybe something else the two have in common we just haven't noticed.

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FA icon.png You just answered your own query. Well done.

This means,

  1. Heart of worlds Keyblade - Keyblade of people's hearts. Two separate Keyblades.
  2. Both are wielded by protagonists.
  3. Both are skeleton keys.
  4. Both are of the same type. If we are not referring to physical evidence, we have to refer to realm and alignment.

And by the way, how sure can one be that both of those Keyblades actually come from DI ? The Kingdom Key is a definite yes, but the Way to the Dawn ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

I'm going by the protaganists themselves

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FA icon.png On the assumption that when he came back to Destiny Islands after chucking Roxas in the Simulated Twilight Town, he acquired the WD ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

or maybe a keyblade has something to do with the person (or heart) using it

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FA icon.png The heart... now that's another story, isn't it ? The heart determines how it is used. But what about the place ? Is it linked to the heart too ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

Nomura screws up logic (again)[edit]

It says that in Another Report that Way to the Dawn is a light-aligned Keyblade, disregarding that its design says otherwise, bein' that it has more demonic attributes than it does angelic, not to mention that it's serrated, which spells out evil. I mean, how does this, in any way, shape or form, LOOKS LIKE a Keyblade that could have come from the LIGHT? As far as I know, Riku has a heart of light, but uses darkness how...uhhh....Kaihedgie 22:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Because Keyblade's either lock the door's from the realm of light or the realm of darkness. Those have absolutely no correlation to their element, or the morality of their wielder. The difference is basically the same as that between a building's entrance and exit. The report explains this in the same paragraph. 23:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Ya didn't answer the question. Why is is a Keyblade of light when it looks nothin' like a Keyblade you'd expect would come from said realm? There are far more darkness attributes on the blade than there are light attributes thought it was my understanding that Way to the Dawn supposedly represents what Riku is. Does it LOOK LIKE ANYTHING you'd see from that realm? XD Kaihedgie 00:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Halloween Town is in the Realm of Light. QED. 01:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Now that's just a load of bull. XD A grim-lookin', Halloween-style world isn't anyone's idea of residence to occupy in the realm of light. I dun't care what Nomura says, he screwed up logic D:

It would have been just soooo much easier to make a Twilight realm, but.... Kaihedgie 02:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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FA icon.png I watched this conversation without even commenting... sometimes, logic just isn't the way to go about things.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne

Nomura must plunge his head back into the dictionary and rewrite everything x:. Also the line between good and evil is blurry, especially regarding light and darkness. Kaihedgie 02:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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FA icon.png Isn't that what the world is ? There is a fine line between good and evil, and there are hardly any "absolute values" as we'd call them. If KH is a mess, then the world is an even bigger mess.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

Who says that the keyblade has to look like it came from the realm of light to be from it.-- 03:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Way to the Dawn design[edit]

Where exactly did the Way to the Dawn come from? I'm pretty sure it didn't go * poof * and Riku goes " hey what do you know my Soul Eater changed form. " --PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 20:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe riku went through a dive into the hearts to get it to change.-- 03:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

RedemptionUltima - What IS he!?! No one's EVER worn the darkness the way that he does! It's impossible!
TALK - See my illusion!
Dive into the Heart is the Awakening. Unless Riku never went through Awakening, it's impossible.

Orpheus of the Lyre Let's Talk ! — Prepare to scream !

Sally, why didn't I listen to you?

Actually I think it changed in COM at the end of Riku's story he says he chooses to go down the way to dawn and then his sword evolves possibly kind of like Sora inexplicably gets new keychains out of no where
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FA icon.png Naw, I don't think so, because Riku is still seen using the SE at the beginning of KHII.

Give up on yourself and you give up on the world. TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute...[edit]

You're leaving the template without the WTTD picture ? TNÉ En avant Bravo ! 02:21, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Because of the problem at Oblivion, Kingdom Key, and Oathkeeper, we decided to move Keyblade images to the lead if they appear several times. See Kingdom Key for the new format.Glorious CHAOS! 02:58, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. Thanks. ^_^ TNÉ En avant Bravo ! 02:59, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Ventus' Awakening[edit]

Seeing as Ventus sees this Keyblade during his awakening, is it worth giving the article a BbS icon?

Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 10:26, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png It looks more like the Soul Eater to me... We'll have to wait for confirmation first.