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{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=04:03, 5 January 2014 (UTC)|text=Ok, we started this discussion on the [[KHWiki:Pages for deletion|Pages for Deletion]] page. The original discussion is here, before I give my response.}}
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=04:03, 5 January 2014 (UTC)|text=Ok, we started this discussion on the [[KHWiki:Pages for Deletion|Pages for Deletion]] page. The original discussion is here, before I give my response.}}


<i><b>From the Pages for Deletion page:</b>
<i><b>From the Pages for Deletion page:</b>
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{{Xion4ever|time05:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)|talktext=Apparently it was misunderstood what I meant by referencing all the deletions. The point of those are to prove that regardless of the royal pain it is, we can do it. We've done it before and we can do it again. Wanting to leave them on here in fear of the amount of work/how lame it would be is an easy/lazy way out. If we could get a group of users to help off-load these images off the Wiki then link them back into the appropriate templates/user pages/articles/etc., these images would be taken care of in no time at all. (<- ''Thought #1'') I think it is safe to say this whole mess is my fault. I've been working on the Articles for Deletion category for a long time- far too long, in fact. Apologizing now wouldn't solve or prove anything.
{{Xion4ever|time05:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)|talktext=Apparently it was misunderstood what I meant by referencing all the deletions. The point of those are to prove that regardless of the royal pain it is, we can do it. We've done it before and we can do it again. Wanting to leave them on here in fear of the amount of work/how lame it would be is an easy/lazy way out. If we could get a group of users to help off-load these images off the Wiki then link them back into the appropriate templates/user pages/articles/etc., these images would be taken care of in no time at all. (<- ''Thought #1'') I think it is safe to say this whole mess is my fault. I've been working on the Articles for Deletion category for a long time- far too long, in fact. Apologizing now wouldn't solve or prove anything.


The point of this forum is, as I understand it, this: '''''Do we want the fan-edited Days images on the Wiki, or offloaded to Photobucket and linked back?''''' There has been a mini discussion about this on the IRC. <small>Log can be found: [http://freetexthost.com/kcjtmcttsn here].</small> Allow me to restate that this is focused solely on the Days images, not other images found in the Category:Pages for deletion.
The point of this forum is, as I understand it, this: '''''Do we want the fan-edited Days images on the Wiki, or offloaded to Photobucket and linked back?''''' There has been a mini discussion about this on the IRC. <small>Log can be found: [http://freetexthost.com/kcjtmcttsn here].</small> Allow me to restate that this is focused solely on the Days images, not other images found in the Category:Articles for Deletion.


Personally, I am against leaving the images on the Wiki. The suggestion to replace them with images that are official would work for any articles (mainspace, that is). That would be a good move. However, for users [userpages, user templates, etc.] it doesn't feel right or fair. To me, that seems like doing it half-way, which is a joke. I'm not going to lie, moving these images is not fun and is probably one of the suckiest form of getting edits. But, it would be worth it. Not only would we finally get the deletion category half cleaned, but we'd finally prove ourselves on following the most recent image policy we agreed upon.
Personally, I am against leaving the images on the Wiki. The suggestion to replace them with images that are official would work for any articles (mainspace, that is). That would be a good move. However, for users [userpages, user templates, etc.] it doesn't feel right or fair. To me, that seems like doing it half-way, which is a joke. I'm not going to lie, moving these images is not fun and is probably one of the suckiest form of getting edits. But, it would be worth it. Not only would we finally get the deletion category half cleaned, but we'd finally prove ourselves on following the most recent image policy we agreed upon.


There are several ways we can go about this, but to shorten this already long eye-sore text I will only mention one...''Proposal 1'': (Under the belief that the images should be held off-Wiki, linked back on the Wiki, and then deleted) Get a group of users to take "so-and-so" characters and upload onto a Photobucket account. The Wiki has one, but I can't remember who all had the log-in information. If desired we could perhaps create a separate Photobucket account solely for these images. That way anyone on here could log in, upload the images, and then get off. Once the images were all accounted for, a staff member could go in and change the password so no one could "vandalize" the account. Any images that-for whatever reason- needed to be uploaded later to that account could be done so by a staff member. Each user who decided to help out would be charged with not only uploading the character(s) images to Photobucket, but would also be in charge of: switching any/all articles/userspace/ANYTHING the image links to; posting the now-"linkless"/"ready-to-delete" image names on the [[KHWiki:Pages for deletion|Deletion]] page. Once the user had completed the above three tasks an admin would re-check to make sure the image has indeed been purged from the Wikispace, and then delete the fan image from existence. Yay great purging.
There are several ways we can go about this, but to shorten this already long eye-sore text I will only mention one...''Proposal 1'': (Under the belief that the images should be held off-Wiki, linked back on the Wiki, and then deleted) Get a group of users to take "so-and-so" characters and upload onto a Photobucket account. The Wiki has one, but I can't remember who all had the log-in information. If desired we could perhaps create a separate Photobucket account solely for these images. That way anyone on here could log in, upload the images, and then get off. Once the images were all accounted for, a staff member could go in and change the password so no one could "vandalize" the account. Any images that-for whatever reason- needed to be uploaded later to that account could be done so by a staff member. Each user who decided to help out would be charged with not only uploading the character(s) images to Photobucket, but would also be in charge of: switching any/all articles/userspace/ANYTHING the image links to; posting the now-"linkless"/"ready-to-delete" image names on the [[KHWiki:Pages for Deletion|Deletion]] page. Once the user had completed the above three tasks an admin would re-check to make sure the image has indeed been purged from the Wikispace, and then delete the fan image from existence. Yay great purging.


On a side note: Wonder if we could use the bot to help tackle the more popular images like [[:File:DaysRoxas.png]]?
On a side note: Wonder if we could use the bot to help tackle the more popular images like [[:File:DaysRoxas.png]]?
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{{Xion4ever|time=03:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)|text=I'll tackle these points one-by-one:
{{Xion4ever|time=03:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)|text=I'll tackle these points one-by-one:


1) About "deactivating" Xiggie/TNE's template archives: For Xiggie are you talking about User:Xiggie/TalkTemplate and User:Xiggie/TalkTemplate 2? As for TNE's talk template archive: I'm not familiar with her intentions with that. Before we do anything, I'd rather we get her input. If we decide against that, could we spare the [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Talk Template Archive/Emotion Guide]]? Not only is this a guide on talk bubble creation, but Kate referenced it on the [[Help:New user guide]]. Don't want that part to get lost in the mix. (Scratch this point if using the bot will solve this problem.)
1) About "deactivating" Xiggie/TNE's template archives: For Xiggie are you talking about User:Xiggie/TalkTemplate and User:Xiggie/TalkTemplate 2? As for TNE's talk template archive: I'm not familiar with her intentions with that. Before we do anything, I'd rather we get her input. If we decide against that, could we spare the [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Talk Template Archive/Emotion Guide]]? Not only is this a guide on talk bubble creation, but Kate referenced it on the [[Help:Guide For New Members]]. Don't want that part to get lost in the mix. (Scratch this point if using the bot will solve this problem.)


2) On Realm of Sleep Forums: So far the ones "put to sleep" have been from The World that Never was forums. Are you wanting the same for the old Twilight Town forums as well?
2) On Realm of Sleep Forums: So far the ones "put to sleep" have been from The World that Never was forums. Are you wanting the same for the old Twilight Town forums as well?


3) On using the bot: Heck yeah I'm up for using it. I have no idea how to run it, but I don't have to necessarily be told, either. If only a certain number of users should know, that's cool. I'm not familiar with how the bot works- such as how many tasks it can take at a time, and the like. Our first batch of Days images should be those found in the [[:Category:Pages for deletion]]. Truth be told, I think that's all of them... Something before using the bot, though: Do the Days images need to be renamed? That's going to be a nightmare, but if you guys say yes, then I'll do my part.
3) On using the bot: Heck yeah I'm up for using it. I have no idea how to run it, but I don't have to necessarily be told, either. If only a certain number of users should know, that's cool. I'm not familiar with how the bot works- such as how many tasks it can take at a time, and the like. Our first batch of Days images should be those found in the [[:Category:Articles for Deletion]]. Truth be told, I think that's all of them... Something before using the bot, though: Do the Days images need to be renamed? That's going to be a nightmare, but if you guys say yes, then I'll do my part.


4) Announcement stuff: How long do you think the warning should last? If we can get this decision set in stone we could start a day after we close this forum. Say: If we get done tomorrow, we start the spamming Wednesday. Not gonna lie, I really want to remove this headache. You guys think three days is enough? A week?}}
4) Announcement stuff: How long do you think the warning should last? If we can get this decision set in stone we could start a day after we close this forum. Say: If we get done tomorrow, we start the spamming Wednesday. Not gonna lie, I really want to remove this headache. You guys think three days is enough? A week?}}
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:I have no problem with either, HOWEVER, I do believe we need to choose between either having the flipped/no red banner ones, or the ones with the red banners from the original game. Or we could have both, one used in galleries (w/ red banner) and the other being used for talk sprites (w/o red banner)... or was there some discussion before that went into this? {{User:Erry/Sig}} 17:15, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
:I have no problem with either, HOWEVER, I do believe we need to choose between either having the flipped/no red banner ones, or the ones with the red banners from the original game. Or we could have both, one used in galleries (w/ red banner) and the other being used for talk sprites (w/o red banner)... or was there some discussion before that went into this? {{User:Erry/Sig}} 17:15, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=01:23, 20 April 2014 (UTC)|text=I would be fine with the third option, using the sprites-with-banner in galleries and using the others for sprites. I don't think we'd be obligated to put the slightly edited sprites in the galleries, since we'd have the originals there.}}
{{neumannz|time=01:23, 20 April 2014 (UTC)|text=I would be fine with the third option, using the sprites-with-banner in galleries and using the others for sprites. I don't think we'd be obligated to put the slightly edited sprites in the galleries, since we'd have the originals there.}}
{{Xion4ever|time=02:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)|text=Third option sounds good to me. We might need to upload more sprites-with-banners, though. I don't remember how many are in the sprite category, but I'm pretty sure we're missing some.}}
We definitely are. If someone has an easy way of working with the sprite page from Spriter's Resource, that would be awesome. Otherwise, I can start getting the sprites...?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 04:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=04:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)|text=Would we have to edit the images off the Sprite Page to separate them from the page? 'Cuz I've noticed the sprites are all part of one image, rather than posted separately.}}
I've already separated them. I just need to upload them. Did one, will continue tomorrow.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 04:37, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh, ok, cool! {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 04:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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