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::::Either a Seeker or a tool of the Seekers, like the Vanitas remanifestation. There's no way that thing just popped up in their signature black coat as a random goof.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:41, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
::::Either a Seeker or a tool of the Seekers, like the Vanitas remanifestation. There's no way that thing just popped up in their signature black coat as a random goof.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:41, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::There are indications that he would be a Seeker. For one, he'd have yellow eyes and pointed ears. For two, he would've had these physical traits when he returned to his time, before he died. For three, Master Xehanort would have to use his Keyblade to plant a heart fragment in him so that Young Xehanort would be able to bring him forward in time. If he's from the present, why kidnap Pinoke? Why show his face and leave? Why not say anything? And why wouldn't Young Xehanort be with him? And others have come into possession of black coats. DiZ was able to get one perfectly designed for Mickey and his ears, and I don't think DiZ likes to sew. I get your point about it not being random though, but a logical assumption is still an assumption. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 02:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::There are indications that he would be a Seeker. For one, he'd have yellow eyes and pointed ears. For two, he would've had these physical traits when he returned to his time, before he died. For three, Master Xehanort would have to use his Keyblade to plant a heart fragment in him so that Young Xehanort would be able to bring him forward in time. If he's from the present, why kidnap Pinoke? Why show his face and leave? Why not say anything? And why wouldn't Young Xehanort be with him? And others have come into possession of black coats. DiZ was able to get one perfectly designed for Mickey and his ears, and I don't think DiZ likes to sew. I get your point about it not being random though, but a logical assumption is still an assumption. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 02:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Sure, it's possible it's an elaborate ruse. In the mean time, we go with Occam's Razor rather than claiming the scene didn't happen at all, and the Razor says that the character referred to by Riku, who gets a memento to his game, is the character we see immediately before that reference and memento, just like with all the other black-coated guys. There's little reason to believe it's an entirely new entity not fitting the mold we see elsewhere in the game.
:::::::Sure, it's possible it's an elaborate ruse. In the mean time, we go with Occam's Razor, and the Razor says that the character referred to by Riku, who gets a memento to his game, is the character we see immediately before that reference and memento, just like with all the other black-coated guys, and most importantly, ''not an entirely new entity that we would be assuming just kind of disappears with no other effect on the storyline''.
:::::::"For one, he'd have yellow eyes and pointed ears." -- That's an incorrect assumption. [[:File:Riku (Dark) KH.png|Riku's had Xehanort's heart fully in him and not immediately gained yellow eyes and pointed ears]].
:::::::"For one, he'd have yellow eyes and pointed ears." -- That's an incorrect assumption. [[:File:Riku (Dark) KH.png|Riku's had Xehanort's heart fully in him and not immediately gained yellow eyes and pointed ears]], and for that matter, so did most of the original Organization. We cannot assume the yellow eyes as a universal rule.
::::::::As for the Keyblade thing, he ''could'' have done, there's no reason to be sure he didn't, but that's also not the requirement:
::::::::As for the Keyblade thing, he ''could'' have done, there's no reason to be sure he didn't, but that's also not the requirement:
::::::::"There are restrictions to movement through time. First, you must leave your body behind to do it. Then, there must be a version of you waiting at the destination. Upon arrival, you can only move forward as per the laws of time. And you cannot rewrite the events that are destined to happen."
::::::::"There are restrictions to movement through time. First, you must leave your body behind to do it. Then, there must be a version of you waiting at the destination. Upon arrival, you can only move forward as per the laws of time. And you cannot rewrite the events that are destined to happen."
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