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{{Webber22|text=But that's exactly what's going on.  Again, I'm not disagreeing with your idea.  But those tools are one of the things that make mod and admin positions unique.  Giving them out renders those positions (at least mod) obsolete.  And look at the current admin situations - we kind of already have too many.  We only need like...two or three, ideally ones who are perfectly suited for that kind of thing like you and Kryten.  The rest?  Move them down to mod.  The ones who have been inactive for a long time, I'm honestly not even sure they'll need any of these tools, and when/if they return, they could simply ask one of the current admins for their permissions re-implemented.  It's a crass term, but you basically just kind of have to trim the fat if you want to optimize the userbase.  And for the record, the users whom you suggested should have these revved up permissions, I DO believe they should just be bumped up to moderators.  It'd be kind of a clutter the other way anyhow.  That's just what I think, and I think we just need to be efficient about it:  The fewer ranks we have, the less to deal with.  Tweak moderator permissions and tools, then simply promote more moderators.}}
{{Webber22|text=But that's exactly what's going on.  Again, I'm not disagreeing with your idea.  But those tools are one of the things that make mod and admin positions unique.  Giving them out renders those positions (at least mod) obsolete.  And look at the current admin situations - we kind of already have too many.  We only need like...two or three, ideally ones who are perfectly suited for that kind of thing like you and Kryten.  The rest?  Move them down to mod.  The ones who have been inactive for a long time, I'm honestly not even sure they'll need any of these tools, and when/if they return, they could simply ask one of the current admins for their permissions re-implemented.  It's a crass term, but you basically just kind of have to trim the fat if you want to optimize the userbase.  And for the record, the users whom you suggested should have these revved up permissions, I DO believe they should just be bumped up to moderators.  It'd be kind of a clutter the other way anyhow.  That's just what I think, and I think we just need to be efficient about it:  The fewer ranks we have, the less to deal with.  Tweak moderator permissions and tools, then simply promote more moderators.}}
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)|sad=I've always seen the role of an administrator as more than just a user with special tools. Admins are role models, mediators, representatives and editors with knowledge of the wiki. I'm completely against moving down any current admins to mods because they're all excellent at their job. Yes, some are currently inactive, but they're marked grey on the staff page for a reason and will come back eventually.
I don't see a need to create a new "sysop" group because I always thought that's what moderators were for. They're one group to me.
Personally, I'm not too fussed about getting any special powers. I've always thought adminship is unwanted responsibility that I don't want to be burdened with and I don't think I'd use the mod tools too often, aside from deleting a page here and there.}}