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{{KujaRhapsodos|time=00:36, October 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I feel bad for all the wikia staff who worked very hard on Oasis, but it just doesn't fit. It's ugly and impractical. All the older wikis have been strutured to fit Monaco and Monobook. To change now means that a lot of wikis are now not nice at all to look at. I don't understand what was so terrible about Monaco that you had to change it. We lived with Monaco for a good few years, and saw no problems with it. We do, however, see a lot of problems with Oasis, that beta testers DID point, but that weren't fixed. Why the need to change? Instead of solving problems, it created more.}} | {{KujaRhapsodos|time=00:36, October 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I feel bad for all the wikia staff who worked very hard on Oasis, but it just doesn't fit. It's ugly and impractical. All the older wikis have been strutured to fit Monaco and Monobook. To change now means that a lot of wikis are now not nice at all to look at. I don't understand what was so terrible about Monaco that you had to change it. We lived with Monaco for a good few years, and saw no problems with it. We do, however, see a lot of problems with Oasis, that beta testers DID point, but that weren't fixed. Why the need to change? Instead of solving problems, it created more.}} | ||
I got a request for some advise on hosting elsewhere, so I'll just iterate over a few notes: | |||
* I'll spare you the bias on how I came up with the ShoutWiki name, the group broke apart, some members became involved in what seamed to be shady business, then a new ShoutWiki group came out from that and swiped the ShoutWiki name... Right now ShoutWiki has a single server, they're thinking of getting a "backup" server, but there is absolutely no proper setup for good performance and fallback on ShoutWiki, and they're already having performance issues. I mentioned that a wiki like Narutopedia moving there would probably kill them from the traffic, though this wiki is only about 1/4 the traffic as the Narutopedia so it's not as heavy, but in any case performance , stability, and the reliability of the service on ShoutWiki doesn't look good. | |||
* I would recommend self-hosting usually, but I don't know if there is anyone on this wiki capable of doing that on a level that keeps the wiki running well. | |||
** I have mentioned that on the chance that the Narutopedia does move I'd be willing to host any other related wiki along with it. But that's dependent on a few things that could cut that short (if the wiki actually decides to move, and more importantly, what my boss even thinks of the idea of hosting wiki when we have a big project -- which I was hired to create -- going into private beta, which is the more problematic thing). But I'm not sure about Kingdom Hearts as it's not so much a related wiki, I was focused around Animanga wiki as a network of them, so even if the wiki does come along, it would probably be dragged along with ideas focused around on the animanga category wiki and primarily the Narutopedia. For most things that might not mean much, besides having less priority on custom features, except for the skin. Part of self-hosting involves experimenting with various ad formats and trying to figure out the best way to get back the money needed to pay for the servers and profit the company hosting the wiki (otherwise the company looses money anyways, since it has to pay the employees spending company time working on the wiki). Trying to do this on different skins at the same time makes for a lot more work, so any other wiki would probably be stuck with the skin and experiments in advertisement placement that the Narutopedia decides on, which I'm expecting to probably be Monaco in an experiment [http://c.imagehost.org/0575/Naruto_Uzumaki_Narutopedia_the_Naruto_Encyclopedia_Wiki_1286057666431.png like this] with a 300px ad above the infobox, or a banner ad above the header (so far those seam to be the most popular ideas in the feedback). | |||
* Side note, Watchlist seams to be broken, I'm no longer getting e-mail updates about changes to watched pages, you may have to poke me on my talkpage once in awhile. | |||
:~ '''NOTASTAFF''' [[w:c:animanga:User:Dantman|Dantman]]<sup>([[User talk:Dantman|Local Talk]] ⁝ [[w:c:animanga:User talk:Dantman|Animanga Talk]])</sup> 14:45, October 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
