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==Untitled==
Is that a picture of Twilight Thorn in Traverse Town?
Is that a picture of Twilight Thorn in Traverse Town?
I think this game will be awesome!
I think this game will be awesome!
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==Unlock==
==Unlock==


Can someone unlock the page for a minute or two? I need to make a ''small'' edit.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Can someone unlock the page for a minute or two? I need to make a ''small'' edit.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 18:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah. The page should be locked only to IP's (it's times like this I wish you could select a group of regular users to be allowed editing rights when something's sysop-only). There are a few tweaks and additions to the article I'd like to make, as well. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 18:44, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah. The page should be locked only to IP's (it's times like this I wish you could select a group of regular users to be allowed editing rights when something's sysop-only). There are a few tweaks and additions to the article I'd like to make, as well. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 18:44, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


I know its protect so people don't speculate and stuff, but I won't take long. It's just a very tiny edit.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
I know its protect so people don't speculate and stuff, but I won't take long. It's just a very tiny edit.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 18:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
::All I wanted to do was add a list of characters confirmed to appear, and a descripition of the trailer based on how IGN described it. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
::All I wanted to do was add a list of characters confirmed to appear, and a descripition of the trailer based on how IGN described it. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 19:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


#If a page is locked due to constant edit warring, you're supposed to present your edit on the talk page so that the admin can add it, not ask for it to be unlocked and relocked several times. Not yelling, or anything, but that's the accepted way to do it. Could you please present your edits?
#If a page is locked due to constant edit warring, you're supposed to present your edit on the talk page so that the admin can add it, not ask for it to be unlocked and relocked several times. Not yelling, or anything, but that's the accepted way to do it. Could you please present your edits?
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==Information==
==Information==


I'm guessing by now everyone saw [http://heartstation.org/?p=2244&cpage=1#comment-11966 this]. Don't we need to put more information about it? And can someone unlock the page, already?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:31, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
I'm guessing by now everyone saw [http://heartstation.org/?p=2244&cpage=1#comment-11966 this]. Don't we need to put more information about it? And can someone unlock the page, already?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:31, June 18, 2010 (UTC)




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From what Nomura has told us, KH3D will be N3DS exclusive.--[[User:XYZach|ΧƳƵach.]] 17:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
From what Nomura has told us, KH3D will be N3DS exclusive.--[[User:XYZach|ΧƳƵach.]] 17:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


Nintendo just wants to sell more versions of the Ds, and they apparently want KH3D to be a special game. --[[File:Axel Action (Sprite) KHCOM.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel (Sprite) KHCOM.png|42px]]
Nintendo just wants to sell more versions of the Ds, and they apparently want KH3D to be a special game. --[[File:Axel with chakrams ~ chain of memories.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel-ChOfMem.png|42px]]
  17:10, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
  17:10, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
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#358/2 Days
#358/2 Days
#Birth by Sleep   
#Birth by Sleep   
And that they will also have new worlds in the game, but both Destiny Islands & Traverse Town have been seen. --[[File:Axel Action (Sprite) KHCOM.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel (Sprite) KHCOM.png|42px]]
And that they will also have new worlds in the game, but both Destiny Islands & Traverse Town have been seen. --[[File:Axel with chakrams ~ chain of memories.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel-ChOfMem.png|42px]]
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'''Nomura''': ''"Though it seems a tentative name, we have included "3D" in the new Kingdom Hearts game title. It also includes "3" which implies that this may be the third iteration of Kingdom Hearts. You'll be able to see what kind of game it will be like from this tentative name. With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with. This time, you will realize growth by the effects of someone else. It's a unique, and more than a bit of a strange system, that we are trying to build this time. There are limits on the things that we can do in the universe of Kingdom Hearts, but the things we cannot do, we'd like to try them in other software. Starting from Kingdom Hearts, I'd like to work on several titles for the Nintendo 3DS."''
'''Nomura''': ''"Though it seems a tentative name, we have included "3D" in the new Kingdom Hearts game title. It also includes "3" which implies that this may be the third iteration of Kingdom Hearts. You'll be able to see what kind of game it will be like from this tentative name. With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with, this time, you will realize growth by the effects of someone else. It's a unique, and more than a bit of a strange system, that we are trying to build this time. There are limits on the things that we can do in the universe of Kingdom Hearts, but the things we cannot do, we'd like to try them in other software. Starting from Kingdom Hearts, I'd like to work on several titles for the Nintendo 3DS."''


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxITx-e7Qzo&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxITx-e7Qzo&feature=player_embedded
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It doesn't say that there is a different Sora.
It doesn't say that there is a different Sora.
''"You will realize growth by the effects of someone else."''
we didn't say he will be different, we said he MIGHT be different. Nomura did state this Sora is not who we are familiar with [[User:17master|17master]] 15:44, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
{{WS|time=15:58, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Maybe Riku's exploring the Jurnal? Or maybe Sora's memories?}}
{{ErryTalk|text=Since there are realms in Kingdom Hearts wouldn't that mean that there would be different universes or something similar? And that this Sora is of a different universe, same with Riku?}}
you mean... parallel universe? [[User:17master|17master]] 16:05, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
What Nomura meant by a Sora that falls and a Riku that flies?--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 16:07, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
{{WS|time=16:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think we're starting to confuse ourselves. let's try looking for explinations related to the three games 3D is supposed to be connected to: Birth by Sleep, Coded, and 358/2 days. I'm sure there are some clues there to help with this.}}
Xabryn, It's a pun. because "Sora" is the japanese word for sky, and "Riku" is the japanese
word for land. so, a "Flying land" and "Falling sky" implies, among other things, that their usual positions would be reversed. Also, I can't help but think that the part in the
3DS conference talking about characters has more to do with gameplay and how the characters "grow" and "level up", than anything else.
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/12/28/is-this-one-of-tetsuya-nomuras-unannounced-games/
He doesn't say that this Sora is not the one we know, he says that growth is realised not by Sora but by "someone else".[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 17:03, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
{{ST|text=good point, he never did say you wouldn't ''play'' as Sora. how bout we just way until more info comes in before we start arguing about this stuff}}
And now back to how this all started: Someone please change the Trivia.Preferably with ALL the interviews (as posted above.) included with EXACT transcript of what he said in the 3DS conference.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 17:26, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
{{J.Severe|text=Well, I think the game is [[Reconnect. Kingdom Hearts|the secret ending of Re:Coded]]. That is to say, based on the info given there, that Sora & Riku will compete in the Mark of Mastery exam by traveling to different worlds, until they ultimately confront the newly revived Master Xehanort. Also, this "unfamiliar" Sora might be that Sora here is not nice but actually obsessed with beating Riku, and that Riku is more successful than Sora in that he's not so competitive, so "Riku flies and Sora falls." But this is just my idea...}}
{{WS|time=22:46, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=That's actually a great theory.}}
{{Chitalian8|time=22:48, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text= I don't think that this will be the plot.
# They look as they did in the first KH.
# This isn't Kingdom Hearts III, and I think that plotline will be saved for that.}}
# That was just for the E3 demo, which was specifically put together to not provide plot information. Sora and Riku's appearances are subject to change.
# We don't know jack about what KH3 will be about.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 00:10, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
{{J.Severe|text=Yes, precisely. KH3 hasn't even been started yet, and no one knows when it comes out. Besides, all the previous secret endings were for handheld games.
KH - ''Days''
KH2 - ''BBS''
BBS & Re:Coded - ???!
And plus, Nomura said that this game takes place after ''coded'', so this is our best bet.}}
Really, Have none of you realized what Nomura is saying?
'''Nomura''': ''" With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with. This time, you will realize growth by the effects of someone else."''
He is not saying that we will be unfamiliar with this Sora, He is saying that We are already familiar with Sora, and you're not going to grow with Sora, because we use him or encounter him, and grow with him in every KH game! and Now we are going to realize the growths of someone else! PS. RtG
{{J.Severe|text=So then we grow with Riku, and Riku flies and Sora falls. Didn't I say this already?}}
The more I think about it, the more that battles system makes sense.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 14:25, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
== European release date? ==
How come the Publisher(s) and Release date(s) pages only has Japan's, USA's and Canada's flags, but not Europe's? Oh gawd, please don't tell me KH3D is Re:CoM all over again... --[[Special:Contributions/84.249.211.221|84.249.211.221]] 18:40, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
{{Key-blade master|time=18:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Ok. it's been stated over and over! KH3D is NOT Re:CoM! It is a completely different game! and it's not a remake! It's a brand new title!}}
...I mean in the way that it'll be only released in Japan and North America, but not Europe. Sorry, I thought it was obvious. --[[Special:Contributions/84.249.211.221|84.249.211.221]] 19:42, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
The European flag isn't there because 3D so far hasn't been confirmed to come here yet. Obviously it will be released in Japan, and since it was shown at E3 that pretty much confirms it to be released in the US and Canada too. I'm sure the game will come to Europe too, it just isn't confirmed yet...
Also, the thing you said about KH3D being like Re:Com all over again, it was pretty obvious what you actually meant... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 19:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
{{Key-blade master|time=[[User:Key-blade master|Key-blade master]] 20:19, October 9, 2010 (UTC)|text= I'm pretty positive that they will release it to NA. they eventually released Re:CoM to NA, so it would only be a matter of time.}}
:...I don't care whether or not it'll be released in NA. My main question is "Since the European flag doesn't appear in the Publisher(s) and Release date(s) sections, will KH3D be released in Europe or not?"
In other words, will Square give us Europeans the middle finger yet again, or not? --[[Special:Contributions/84.249.211.221|84.249.211.221]] 20:20, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
{{Key-blade master|time=[[User:Key-blade master|Key-blade master]] 21:01, October 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=Oh, ok. Was KH Re:CoM not released in europe? Really? Wow. That surprised me. But it says it will be released on January 14th on the site here. I'll see if i can find other info. But since only japan got Coded. I don't see why Europe wouldn't get Re:Coded.}}
He's not talking about Re:Coded, he's talking about KH3D
^Which is even less likely to not receive an international release.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 12:43, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
== New 3D news ==
• The atmosphere in KH3D will be different from other titles.
• There will be new worlds.
• Re:Coded's ending and BBS' secret movies give hints as to what Sora has to do in future titles.
• KH3D will be close to how CoM had a story for Sora and Riku, but it's not like they are going to be separated in this adventure.
• Nomura wants to add three new "elements" to KH3D, things that wouldn't be possible to do on any console other than Nintendo 3DS.
• Nomura is thinking about more titles apart from KH3D.
Again, we don't get much, but it sounds like Sora is still a main character. [[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 17:09, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
:Ergh. It sounds like Riku will be a permanent party member. I hope not. Do we have a source for this? <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span><span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span><span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 16:03, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
:[http://www.khinsider.com/] ,i think it's more like you swtch backand forth between the two, which sounds awesome --ShadowsTwilight 16:48, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
== Alternate Universe ==
OK, he said it isn't the Sora we know. We also saw MANY, MANY soras falling from the sky. So what if there are alternate worlds, and there's like different versions of Sora? (I gotta get a bubble...) -Leetdoom
:Bubble? You mean Talk bubble? You have to make em. On topic: No, I doubt it would be an alternate universe, Nomura may have been talking figuratively. --Evnyofdeath 21:15, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
He.Did.Not.Say.That.This.Isn't.The.Sora.We.Know. please show me where, using links and direct quotations and vids a couple sections above where he said that. He has been directly quoted several times on this talk page, and the above never passed his lips. (I'd argue whether the 3DS conference has any baring at all since iy's basically him sucking up to Nintendo, but I'll let that slide.)[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 03:01, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxITx-e7Qzo The link] was above; '''read''', for cripe's sake. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 03:07, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
I was, in fact, the person who posted that in this page and if you could kindly quote for me where he says ''"This isn't the Sora you know,"'' I'd very greatly appreciate it.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 03:13, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:...did watching the video not occur to you? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 03:35, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
I '''Did''' watch it, around the time I posted it here, and I'm guessing you haven't, because what he actually said was: ''"With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with, this time you will realise growth by the effects of someone else."'' Which, gramatically is different in meaning from "This isn't the Sora you know." which was never said '''Anywhere'''.
...And I suddenly know how Hades feels,[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 03:59, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:That quote is VERY vauge and can be taken in many different ways. --Evnyofdeath 04:18, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
I'm afraid the IP's right, maggosh, it sounds more like sora wo't be a playable character, although if i'm not mistaken every other piece of info we have on this game seems to say otherwise --[[User:ShadowsTwilight|ShadowsTwilight]] 04:03, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
Quick question, what does "growth" mean within the context of a JRPG? Does it have more to do with Character Development or Leveling Up? Just to get our definitions straight here.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 04:09, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Erm, could I have the link to the actual trailer please? --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 04:11, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
We don't have one.Sorry.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 04:12, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
What do you think he means by that? If Sora's not the character we're "Growing" with, than who is?[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 14:08, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Quite possibly Riku. But the interview is so ambiguous (as any good PR personality would make it to be) that it's anyone's guess at this point. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span><span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span><span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 03:16, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
Nomura: " With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with. This time, you will realize growth by the effects of someone else."
He is not saying that we will be unfamiliar with this Sora, He is saying that We are already familiar with Sora, and you're not going to grow with Sora, because we use him or encounter him, and grow with him in every KH game! So, we can't grow that much with Sora anymore, because we already know Sora, who he is as a person, how he behaves, some of his likes and dislikes, etc. We know/ "ARE FAMILIAR WITH" Sora already! Now we are going to realize the growths of someone else! I said this a long time ago. SO,
Whether or not what he meant still seems "vague" to you, you need to remove that line from the Trivia, since you're not sure what Nomura is saying,  PS. RtG:
And BTW, I'm sure that Sora will be a playable character in this game as well PS. RtG:
== Editing ==
Almost everything on the page is speculation - we need to clean things up. We don't know anything about the game in actuality, because the trailer has been called a tech demo.[[Special:Contributions/69.208.82.249|69.208.82.249]] 17:45, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
Interviews regarding the game have revealed some, but you're right that the information from the demo is subject to further scrutiny.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 23:31, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
Except for "''it will feature both Sora and Riku as playable characters, although using their Kingdom Hearts designs''", everything on this page is a result of an interview or, in the case of the ''Trailer'' subsection, information taken directly from the trailer (and it belongs in this section; it hasn't spread to being regarded as canon). There isn't much if any speculation on this page in that respect. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 23:34, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
{{Chihuahuaman|time=15:20, October 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Why not only put the confirmed info in the article and lock the page untill next year?}}
Exactly, a staffer needs to fix it, it's loaded with unconfirmed stuff. [[User:LightRoxas|LightRoxas]] 02:22, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
::''everything on this page is a result of an interview or, in the case of the ''Trailer'' subsection, information taken directly from the trailer (and it belongs in this section; it hasn't spread to being regarded as canon). There isn't much if any speculation on this page in that respect.''
I really hate repeating stuff... [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 02:29, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

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