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As of birth by sleep's release this and the dead ones in the Keyblade graveyard are the only ones without keychains.No Idea what that means but there you go.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 15:12, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
As of birth by sleep's release this and the dead ones in the Keyblade graveyard are the only ones without keychains.No Idea what that means but there you go.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 15:12, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


Besides, aren't all Keyblades artificial? Xehanort's Report stated that, all Keyblades, Realm of Light, Realm of Darkness or Keyblade of Hearts were created by men, the X-Blade being the only one not really "created", being alongside Kingdom Hearts instead of work with it like the other... to my knowledge just the Keyblade of Hearts and the X-Blade can interact with Kingdom Hearts entirely, and Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key together, being the representative Keyblades of each Realm... [[Special:Contributions/192.168.1.1|192.168.1.1]] 12:18 (GMT), February 02, 2011
Besides, aren't all Keyblades artificial? Xehanort's Report stated that, all Keyblades, Realm of Light, Realm of Darkness or Keyblade of Hearts were created by men, the χ-blade being the only one not really "created", being alongside Kingdom Hearts instead of work with it like the other... to my knowledge just the Keyblade of Hearts and the χ-blade can interact with Kingdom Hearts entirely, and Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key together, being the representative Keyblades of each Realm... [[Special:Contributions/192.168.1.1|192.168.1.1]] 12:18 (GMT), February 02, 2011


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::Up until I read that Report, I was fully willing to accept that there were multiple ways to get to Kingdom Hearts, & that a Keyblade might not even be needed. But he brought it back into the plot specifically to say that it's the only way to do it. As for the other thing, to quote Ansem, "Unlike yours, THIS Keyblade has the power to unlock people's hearts." Okay, you could give a weak handwave that he was being an Unreliable Narrator for one reason or another, but that still begs the question of just what is so special about this thing.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 08:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
::Up until I read that Report, I was fully willing to accept that there were multiple ways to get to Kingdom Hearts, & that a Keyblade might not even be needed. But he brought it back into the plot specifically to say that it's the only way to do it. As for the other thing, to quote Ansem, "Unlike yours, THIS Keyblade has the power to unlock people's hearts." Okay, you could give a weak handwave that he was being an Unreliable Narrator for one reason or another, but that still begs the question of just what is so special about this thing.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 08:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


{{TalkSephiroth0812|time=09:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)|text=The thing that is special about this one is that it does not ''only'' unlock hearts (any keyblade in the hand of a qualified master with the knowledge can do that), it also '''unlocks the darkness''' in that heart, as evidenced by unsealing Maleficent's dragon form when used on her. Why do you think Sora became a heartless? Because his darkness was overflowing his heart due to the influence of the KoPH. Losing your heart doesn't automatically mean you will become a heartless, you also have to be overcome by darkness. As for Xemnas' KH we need to keep in mind that this one was different than the one seen in BBS and "glimpsed" in KH 1. Xemnas' KH was made by capturing human hearts and force them together to form a Kingdom Hearts, the one in BBS and KH 1 is the original, real Kingdom Hearts which is made up of the hearts of whole worlds (including the human hearts). This one is, as known so far, reachable by two methods. Either by using the seven princesses to open the Door to Darkness which leads into the dark realm where KH resides (long method) or by using the X-blade to summon KH directly to you and then use the X-blade to unlock it.}}
{{TalkSephiroth0812|time=09:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)|text=The thing that is special about this one is that it does not ''only'' unlock hearts (any keyblade in the hand of a qualified master with the knowledge can do that), it also '''unlocks the darkness''' in that heart, as evidenced by unsealing Maleficent's dragon form when used on her. Why do you think Sora became a heartless? Because his darkness was overflowing his heart due to the influence of the KoPH. Losing your heart doesn't automatically mean you will become a heartless, you also have to be overcome by darkness. As for Xemnas' KH we need to keep in mind that this one was different than the one seen in BBS and "glimpsed" in KH 1. Xemnas' KH was made by capturing human hearts and force them together to form a Kingdom Hearts, the one in BBS and KH 1 is the original, real Kingdom Hearts which is made up of the hearts of whole worlds (including the human hearts). This one is, as known so far, reachable by two methods. Either by using the seven princesses to open the Door to Darkness which leads into the dark realm where KH resides (long method) or by using the χ-blade to summon KH directly to you and then use the χ-blade to unlock it.}}
::Master Xehanort can also unlock the darkness of the heart. Case in point: Vanitas. The only thing I'm really noticing is that the KoPH allowed Sora to do it without all of the dark powers & experience supposedly necessary.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 19:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
::Master Xehanort can also unlock the darkness of the heart. Case in point: Vanitas. The only thing I'm really noticing is that the KoPH allowed Sora to do it without all of the dark powers & experience supposedly necessary.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 19:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
:::KH1 also indicated that there was only one, legendary Keyblade for each realm, with the KoPH being an artificial anomaly. Any attempt to reconcile its presentation in KH1 with the overflowing glut of Keyblades we get in KH2 and beyond ends up being nonsensical or having plot holes, ''especially'' Nomura's official attempts.
:::KH1 also indicated that there was only one, legendary Keyblade for each realm, with the KoPH being an artificial anomaly. Any attempt to reconcile its presentation in KH1 with the overflowing glut of Keyblades we get in KH2 and beyond ends up being nonsensical or having plot holes, ''especially'' Nomura's official attempts.
:::The current retcon seems to be: Riku was incorrect, anyone can unlock hearts; the X-blade is necessary to open the door to the true Kingdom Hearts, an immediate union of all worlds' hearts that you can use to instantly rewrite the universe, while the KoPH and possibly other Keyblades (see KH2) can only open the door to the artificial Kingdom Heartses created by manually amassing the hearts of people and worlds.
:::The current retcon seems to be: Riku was incorrect, anyone can unlock hearts; the χ-blade is necessary to open the door to the true Kingdom Hearts, an immediate union of all worlds' hearts that you can use to instantly rewrite the universe, while the KoPH and possibly other Keyblades (see KH2) can only open the door to the artificial Kingdom Heartses created by manually amassing the hearts of people and worlds.
:::Although, knowing Nomura, this will be retconned ''again'', with some handwave that Xehanort was also mistaken, or that it was really SoraBackFromTheFuture writing the Xehanort Reports.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 19:57, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Although, knowing Nomura, this will be retconned ''again'', with some handwave that Xehanort was also mistaken, or that it was really SoraBackFromTheFuture writing the Xehanort Reports.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 19:57, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
::::As far as I can remember, KH1 just implied that there was only 1 Keyblade, & also contained numerous hints that this may not be true.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 18:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
::::As far as I can remember, KH1 just implied that there was only 1 Keyblade, & also contained numerous hints that this may not be true.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 18:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Just a proto-version? ==
== Just a proto-version? ==
Should the Keyblade of Heart be consider a weaker, prototype version of the X-blade? The X-blade can unlock Kingdom Hearts, but the Keyblade of Heart can only unlock the hearts of living beings. ([[Special:Contributions/96.68.6.221|96.68.6.221]] 22:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC))
Should the Keyblade of Heart be consider a weaker, prototype version of the χ-blade? The χ-blade can unlock Kingdom Hearts, but the Keyblade of Heart can only unlock the hearts of living beings. ([[Special:Contributions/96.68.6.221|96.68.6.221]] 22:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC))
:I say no. Personally, I keep the X-blade on a completely different level- in regards to type/power/etc.. I don't recall any mention of the Keyblade of heart being connect to the X-blade at all. Plus, since most Keyblade wielders can unlock peoples' hearts with "regular" Keyblades anyways... {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 13:11, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
:I say no. Personally, I keep the χ-blade on a completely different level- in regards to type/power/etc.. I don't recall any mention of the Keyblade of heart being connect to the χ-blade at all. Plus, since most Keyblade wielders can unlock peoples' hearts with "regular" Keyblades anyways... {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 13:11, 12 June 2018 (UTC)


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