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:::Considering Xion was created before the Riku Replica in Castle Oblivion, I can't agree that she's what Marluxia is referring to here. I can see why you might think that, but can't agree. - [[User:Truthful-Sentiment|Truthful-Sentiment]] ([[User talk:Truthful-Sentiment|talk]]) 10:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC) | :::Considering Xion was created before the Riku Replica in Castle Oblivion, I can't agree that she's what Marluxia is referring to here. I can see why you might think that, but can't agree. - [[User:Truthful-Sentiment|Truthful-Sentiment]] ([[User talk:Truthful-Sentiment|talk]]) 10:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::''"In my work on the Replica Program for the Organization, I produced some twenty vessels. Most of the early results were failures, not one of them granted a number. The first success to emerge from that early lot was the Riku replica. '''Subsequently''', Xion (No. i) was essentially indistinguishable from a natural human, though she became unstable due to the influence of others."'' | ::::''"In my work on the Replica Program for the Organization, I produced some twenty vessels. Most of the early results were failures, not one of them granted a number. The first success to emerge from that early lot was the Riku replica. '''Subsequently''', Xion (No. i) was essentially indistinguishable from a natural human, though she became unstable due to the influence of others."'' | ||
::::Marluxia is talking about Xion. That's not me "thinking that", that's what the game makes absolutely clear. I'm unclear where you got the idea that Xion was created | ::::Marluxia is talking about Xion. That's not me "thinking that", that's what the game makes absolutely clear. I'm unclear where you got the idea that Xion was created ''after'' Riku Replica, as even in Days Vexen states she is his finest Replica, and the first one ''to gain number status''.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:08, 27 February 2019 (UTC) | ||
:::::I actually said that Xion was created ''before'', not after. I still feel inclined to think that Marluxia was referring to a new replica rather than Xion, as it seems like an odd way to refer to her in this context. I don't think it's absolutely clear, if something can be interpreted two different ways. Either way, I'm sorry if I came off as rude; I had no intention of doing so. - [[User:Truthful-Sentiment|Truthful-Sentiment]] ([[User talk:Truthful-Sentiment|talk]]) 22:50, 1 March 2019 (UTC) | :::::I actually said that Xion was created ''before'', not after. I still feel inclined to think that Marluxia was referring to a new replica rather than Xion, as it seems like an odd way to refer to her in this context. I don't think it's absolutely clear, if something can be interpreted two different ways. Either way, I'm sorry if I came off as rude; I had no intention of doing so. - [[User:Truthful-Sentiment|Truthful-Sentiment]] ([[User talk:Truthful-Sentiment|talk]]) 22:50, 1 March 2019 (UTC) | ||
Ultimania confirms that it is the time-traveling heart of the Riku Replica from after it was first made, in a new body. Whether that makes it a new being entirely or not is up to interpretation, I guess. Given that it is continually called Dark Riku in all material, including the game and the Ultimania, I'd say it's considered a separate being, but we should be upfront that it is a time traveling heart of the Replica, not of Riku. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 18:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC) | Ultimania confirms that it is the time-traveling heart of the Riku Replica from after it was first made, in a new body. Whether that makes it a new being entirely or not is up to interpretation, I guess. Given that it is continually called Dark Riku in all material, including the game and the Ultimania, I'd say it's considered a separate being, but we should be upfront that it is a time traveling heart of the Replica, not of Riku. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 18:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC) | ||
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::I think it's easier if we split characters if they are around at the same time. Young Xehanort and Master Xehanort are both around at the same time in KH3, so we split them. Same with Riku Replica and Dark Riku. KH3 Ansem and KH1 Ansem are never around at the same time, so we don't split them. Same for Xemnas, Xion, and Vanitas. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC) | ::I think it's easier if we split characters if they are around at the same time. Young Xehanort and Master Xehanort are both around at the same time in KH3, so we split them. Same with Riku Replica and Dark Riku. KH3 Ansem and KH1 Ansem are never around at the same time, so we don't split them. Same for Xemnas, Xion, and Vanitas. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC) | ||
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:::::Oi, works for me.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC) | :::::Oi, works for me.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::::I don't think he was named Dark Riku to make you think he was possessed Riku, because the Japanese names are different. Dark Riku is called ダーク・リク in KH3. Possessed Dark Riku is called 闇の力をまとったリク in KHUX, and 闇リク in Recoded's Avatar Menu. And since Dark Riku is the only official name we have, and we don't have a separate page for possessed Riku, I say we keep this page as Dark Riku, and have a youmay to the possessed Riku. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC) | ::::::I don't think he was named Dark Riku to make you think he was possessed Riku, because the Japanese names are different. Dark Riku is called ダーク・リク in KH3. Possessed Dark Riku is called 闇の力をまとったリク in KHUX, and 闇リク in Recoded's Avatar Menu. And since Dark Riku is the only official name we have, and we don't have a separate page for possessed Riku, I say we keep this page as Dark Riku, and have a youmay to the possessed Riku. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC) | ||