Editing Talk:Absent Silhouette

==Context==
I'm guessing this is from KH2: Final Mix+, because thats the only time you can fight all of the Organization members. But this article doesn't say this anywhere. Are Absent Silhouettes in Olympus Colosseum or The World that Never Was? Or somewhere else? --[[User:Zephyrus11|Zephyrus11]] 09:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Each Absent Silhouette is in it's own world, and you access them via a glowing sphere. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 10:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

== Areas ==

I didn't play Final Mix+ so I don't know if this has anything to do with the story or not, but why are the Silhouettes fought were they're fought? Especially Larxene, what similarities does she have with Port Royal? I understand Marluxia in Beast's Castle, the whole rose/flower theme and Zexion, creepy and gloomy, but the rest make no sense as to why thier battles take place where they do.-[[User:Xnaminex|xnaminex]]

==Seperate==
Should we have seperate enemy pages for the Absent Sillhouettes? - [[User:Deadlyslashsword|<font color="red">'''+Deadly'''</font>]][[User Talk: Deadlyslashsword|<font color="indigo">'''Slash'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Deadlyslashsword|<font color="black">'''Sword+'''</font>]] 02:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=No, as it already comes under the respective pages for Organisation XIII members. We include their appearances in Chain and Final Mix+, that should suffice. And that's also according to the new MoS.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Can Absent Silhouettes be fought more than once, or do you have to wait to make the upgraded equipment if you ever want to get it?}}
{{TNE|time=15:45, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|text=Nope, Absent Silhouettes can only be fought once. For the upgraded equipment, I think immediately after the defeat of an Absent Silhouette the recipe for both normal and upgrade is obtained. There only needs one Serenity Crystal to complete it, if you already have the ingredients.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I meant specifically the Illusion materials that you get from beating them, but I think the Data Replicas also drop those.}}
{{TNE|time=21:42, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|text=Yes, some of them do, I think. But I think those only apply to the ones fought in the KHII storyline - the ones which I've been scared to try for fear of being pwned !}}

== WTH?==
{{PrincessAndie|text= I DON"T GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO you ever fight the shillotes, or however it's spelled? Because if you do, I'm not going to those areas. But I always get lost in Agrabah so I might end up where one is though. . . }}

{{XNamineX|text=You do know they'rw only in Kingdom Hearts II:Final Mix +.}}

== Absent Silhouette  ==

DUDES!!!! Absent Silhouettes are:
1. Only in KH2FM<br />
2. Only the Chain of Memories Organization XIII<br />
3. Once you defeat one, they are gone and you get an accessory or a recipe<br />
4. You can fight them anytime of the game, but once defeated, they are gone<br />
5. You can rematch a data version of them (once you defeated them) at the end of the Cavern of Remembrance and you can fight them as many times as you want.<br />

--[[Special:Contributions/71.141.140.136|71.141.140.136]] 23:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Uhh, is that not what the article says? - [[User:Xiggie|<span style="color:blue ;">'''Ice'''</span>]][[User talk:Xiggie|<span style="color:dodgerblue ;">'''boy'''</span>]] 23:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== The Lingering Sentiment ==
The Lingering Sentiment is fought in circumstances that are exactly identical to that of the other Absent Silhouettes. Why is it not mentioned here?

-kthnxbai.

== Very Inaccurate ==
The Absent Silhouettes are not 'ghosts of Nobodies', they are the weapons left behind after their owners have died. Imprinted with the owner's personality and skills, fighting them will help Sora 'truly awaken'.

"Demyx: I went through a lot of trouble to ﬁnd you. I’m going to tell you about a toy more interesting than
the Olympus Stone. It’s called an “Absent Silhouette”.

Sora: Absent Silhouette? You mean that book from before?

Demyx: It’s not just limited to the book. Branded with the weapons left behind by their absent masters,
they are shadows of existence. If you ﬁght with them, you will surely awaken. The real you I mean."

^Demyx explaining the nature if the Absent Silhouettes to Sora and co.

Also, I noticed in the Trivia section that it states that none of the Absent Silhouettes talk, but Marluxia's Absent Silhouette clearly whispers something into Sora's ear before the battle begins. Also, the Lingering Sentiment, the only Absent Silhouette not mentioned on the page speaks very clearly to Sora and co. about its hatred for Xehanort and how Sora is not who it chose.

KTHNXBAI!
:...no, it says they are "shadows of existence" that are BRANDED (i.e., marked) with the image of the weapon they're living self once used.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:45, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

== They are nobodies of nobodies. ==

They are what's left behind of a fallen nobody, but they are the concious and skills of the original nobody.
:Firstly, please sign posts. And secondly, Nobodies of Nobodies ? Well at the end of the day that'd still make it a Nobody, though if this were to be true, then we'll have to go in-depth to how it actually happened. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 00:18, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

== explaining a nobody of a nobody. ==

In a way its like Naminé she is Kairi's nobody but is only a nobody of the process of her birth.Likewise a Absent Silhouette is the nobody of a fallen nobody because they are what was left behind from the fallen nobody I'm going to use Larxene's absent silhouette as an example she is a new Larxene created from the tiny fragments of her body,soul,memories,skills and personality left behind and attached to her knives.(Naminépower).

== The person in control of the absent silhouette ==

when the fallen owner of the weapon is imprinted onto the weapon is it like the same Larxene and the same Marluxia and etc or is it a new non-being.(Naminépower)

== Remains ==

{{NitrousX|text=I think this is what's left behind of a fallen nobody (just a theory), or it's just completely non-canon.}}

== Birth by Sleep Spoilers ==
In the climax of Terra's scenario, Master Xehanort's Heart possesses Terra's body, much like Xehanort's Heartless does to Riku. Once the process is complete, "Terranort" casts away Terra's Keyblade and Armor. As Terranort basks in his victory and begins to leave, he is trapped by a force created Terra's reassembled Armor. The Armor then uses Terra's Keyblade to defeat Terranort. I feel that this has defined the existence of Absent Silhouettes: the consciousness of a fallen character imprinted on a personal possession.[[User:XYZach|XYZ.]] 07:17, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

== Birth By Sleep Secret Ending ==

When Ansem the Wise speaks to Aqua, he says, "I created the duplicate beings of nothing." Could that mean the Absent Silhouettes?
==My Theory==
Okay, we all know that a Nobody is a left over body and soul of a person when they turn into a Heartless, as stated in Secret Report 16(i think, i know its one of them). Well, doesnt it make sense that an Absent Silhouette is the left over soul of a Nobody or person? In the "[[Xehanort]]" section it says the the Lingering Sentiment is Terra's armour controled by a partion of his lost soul. What im saying is that the weapons arent imprinted with the personality of its wielder, but is possesed by the soul of the wielder. [[User:Allhailbob13|Allhailbob13]] 00:24, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
==Unversed==
As we know Unverseds are Vanitas's feelings and they grown of negative feelings, the Nobodies despite the fact that they don't have really emotions they "feel" negative ones thanks to their memories, my theory of what vanitas's sentiment and lingering sentiment are a part of the old one(Vanitas and Terra) that was created with this negative feeling Vanitas's feeling for one side became a Unversed, Terra's for other side became a embodiment in his armor so maybe the absent Silhouette is  the Unversed form of the nobodies that was destroyed but they didn't appear before because they were too weak but the negative feelings of the Org members that passed through the worlds make them grown and become strong enough to make a portal like Vanitas's sentiment and lingering sentiment ones--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 01:20, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
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 KTHNXBAI!
 :...no, it says they are "shadows of existence" that are BRANDED (i.e., marked) with the image of the weapon they're living self once used.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:45, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
-:Wait, they're actually mentioned in-story in KH2FM? Shouldn't this information be in the article, then? [[User:Klisz|Klisz]] ([[User talk:Klisz|talk]]) 16:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 == They are nobodies of nobodies. ==
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 {{NitrousX|text=I think this is what's left behind of a fallen nobody (just a theory), or it's just completely non-canon.}}
-Sorry if I sound like noob, but what IS left of a fallen nobody? Don't they just fade? (Not the Organization Nobodies.)
---[[User:Tyler Seagrave|Tyler Seagrave]] 18:08, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 == Birth by Sleep Spoilers ==
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 ==Unversed==
 As we know Unverseds are Vanitas's feelings and they grown of negative feelings, the Nobodies despite the fact that they don't have really emotions they "feel" negative ones thanks to their memories, my theory of what vanitas's sentiment and lingering sentiment are a part of the old one(Vanitas and Terra) that was created with this negative feeling Vanitas's feeling for one side became a Unversed, Terra's for other side became a embodiment in his armor so maybe the absent Silhouette is  the Unversed form of the nobodies that was destroyed but they didn't appear before because they were too weak but the negative feelings of the Org members that passed through the worlds make them grown and become strong enough to make a portal like Vanitas's sentiment and lingering sentiment ones--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 01:20, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
-== Vanitas' Sentiment ==
-So, is Vanitas' Sentiment considered an Absent Silhouette too?{{User:Organization 13/Sig}}