Editing Forum:WE'VE BEEN PLAGEURIZED!!!!

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{{EO|time=21:15, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|enraged=So I was minding my own business, editing [[Gantu]], and needed a reference from the only place I thought might have the info, the [http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Disney Wiki]. And what should I learn there in the Gantu article than that the Wiki's been stealing information from us on EVERY SINGLE KH CHARACTER! Mainly story sections. We need to STOP this madness. Other links are coming in from other users, but here is just one example:

*[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Gantu#Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_By_Sleep TEH EBIL!!!]

I'll take it up with the admins on the Disney Wiki first, but if nothing happens, we need to DO SOMETHING! Sorry to, in DTN's words, be "overRAGEGUYing", but this is a truly serious matter.

*EDIT 21:35, July 25, 2010 (UTC): I've scanned the Disney Wiki, and have found no trace of an active staff member. Obviously we can't punish the Disney Wiki in any way, but we should all at least attempt to find a way to get them to cite/link back to us, and USE THEIR OWN WORDS! I have a feeling Central Wiki will have a better chance of reaching a staff member than we do. I know they won't shut them down, but at least they can help.
*EDIT 21:39, July 25, 2010 (UTC): I have found a staff member who claims they are inactive but apparently logged into the Disney Wiki two days ago. I'll contact him and see where things go from there.}}
:Calm down. First off, this in no way affects the KH Wiki. Second, everytime you edit or create an article on this Wiki a disclaimer says "'' If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here. ''". The info of this Wiki is probably on mirror pages as well. I do suppose it's a bit dubious that Sora and even Sephiroth are on the Disney Wiki too (since they're not Disney characters), but that concerns their policy and not ours. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 21:55, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
{{SC|time=21:57, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|light=Actually, Disney was in on KH, so they have a reason for being there. Also, going crazy is not neccesary. Just talk to the admin, and ask him to stop. If he refuses, then we can bring in more serious action. No reason to freak out yet.}}
{{EO|time=22:00, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=Because the title of the Forum is in caps and I used caps to make a point in the message, it's NOT "freaking out." Copy/pasting information that is not their own is still wrong and illegal. And it's not just what I submitted, but what EVERYONE ELSE HAS. I contacted an admin. Excuse me for caring. Rant OVER!}}
{{SC|time=22:06, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|light=Yes, it is freaking out. I saw you on the IRC, you were going crazy. The caps doesn't help. And these are free wikias. Nothing about it is illegal, and it's not illegal to copy us because nobody makes money off of it. If they did, it would be piracy. This is an ego blow. I understand what they did is wrong. That, however, doesn't warrant you/us going crazy, trying to shut the wiki down. And again, I have nothing against you, I agree what they did is wrong. We all care. I'm just saying that this isn't cause to go crazy and bat-**** insane. Seriously, calm down and look at this from a logical angle.}}

{{AxelLivesOn|time=22:13, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|mickey=I hate too but in and all, but I edit on the Disney Wiki. I've been trying to tell the "Higher up" people on the Disney Wiki about many issues there, like the Kingdom Hearts sections. 
*First, they know nothing about Kingdom Hearts (well a majority don't) and always put things like lightsabers for Xemnas. (which really gets me mad...)
*Second, they do copy some things and don't really do much about it. (That's why I think it's a complete mess!)
Those are my words on the matter which I think needs to stop...seriously...}}
{{EO|hooded=''Sigh''... Fine. I apologize for whatever crimes were committed. I will in no way let this get anymore out of hand than it all ready has. We shall wait for the admin to reply and take it from there. To Xerruy and SilverCrono, I apologize. To the Disney Wiki, I apologize, as well as to the rest of the community here. 100% assurance, this shan't happen again.}}

Should I still make that list?[[User:BlackSoulBlade|BlackSoulBlade]] 22:20, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think you need to. You can if you feel you must, but I think the Disney Wiki knows what articles are in question when we mention them. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 22:22, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
:::If they are directly copying our info without crediting the editors who wrote it, that IS plagiarism, and is very serious. They need to either import the full page histories from our pages (which probably won't work for their purposes), or explicitly have a notice for the KH section like "The content of this section was taken from the ''Kingdom Hearts Wiki'', and is the work of the editors listed there."[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:05, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
FINALLY! Someone gets it! That is exactly what they were doing and have been doing, Kryten. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 23:10, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

{{AxelLivesOn|time=23:12, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|mickey=I think that it's a good idea. The Disney Wiki won't care at all. They aren't strict at all with their rules...(Trust me!) But, it's gonna have to take quite a bit of people and time to do it. They have a lot of Kingdom Hearts articles and sections. And, I also doubt anyone's gonna get to an admin anytime soon.... I've tried before and got nothing after weeks....}}
:I don't think you're gonna get much more than the KH Wiki being listed as a source for the KH content of those pages (seeing as all Wiki info must be sourced). Again, Wiki content is not in any way copyrighted. People may distribute it at will. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 23:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

{{Maggosh|trg=Just because it's not copyrighted doesn't mean plagiarizing it is okay. Didn't you test your rebuttal out before you released it?}}
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 Should I still make that list?[[User:BlackSoulBlade|BlackSoulBlade]] 22:20, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-::I don't think you need to. You can if you feel you must, but I think the Disney Wiki knows what articles are in question when we mention them. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 22:22, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
+::I don't think you need to. You can if you feel you must, but I think the Disney Wiki knows what articles are in question when we mention them. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 22:22, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 :::If they are directly copying our info without crediting the editors who wrote it, that IS plagiarism, and is very serious. They need to either import the full page histories from our pages (which probably won't work for their purposes), or explicitly have a notice for the KH section like "The content of this section was taken from the ''Kingdom Hearts Wiki'', and is the work of the editors listed there."[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:05, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-FINALLY! Someone gets it! That is exactly what they were doing and have been doing, Kryten. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 23:10, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
+FINALLY! Someone gets it! That is exactly what they were doing and have been doing, Kryten. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 23:10, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 {{AxelLivesOn|time=23:12, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|mickey=I think that it's a good idea. The Disney Wiki won't care at all. They aren't strict at all with their rules...(Trust me!) But, it's gonna have to take quite a bit of people and time to do it. They have a lot of Kingdom Hearts articles and sections. And, I also doubt anyone's gonna get to an admin anytime soon.... I've tried before and got nothing after weeks....}}
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-I just combed the Disney wiki and corrected a few errors such as Vanitas being born from dark DNA (WTH?) but for some reason can't fix the errors in the info boxes, could someone else do that for me?
---Evnyofdeath 23:41, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-::Xerruy: You are completely wrong. Wiki content is completely copyrighted (well, copylefted) under GFDL, ''however'', it is also free to reuse. Basically, anyone can copy our stuff for no charge, ''as long as they credit us for the stuff''.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:42, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-{{AxelLivesOn|time=23:54, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|mickey=If anyone can, we need help with the [http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Disney Wiki] on the Kingdom Hearts articles. I just found out that someone put "Gay" under Riku many times there. It has been fixed, but who knows how many articles out there are like that?!?!}}
-:::KrytenKoro - okay, I guess that's clarified then. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 00:32, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
-{{TNE|time=05:20, July 27, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=Okay. I just saw this issue. They fail to adhere to the copyleft, even after our persuasion, we bring it up to Wikia Staff/Helpers. Three people are at my disposal. Just say the word, if needed.
-I mean, seriously. It's not copyrighted, but that doesn't give us the liberty to copy others' words as and when we please.}}