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{{AlVan|time22:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC)|text=[http://www.kh2.co.uk/kingdom-hearts-3d/news/kh3d-playable-demo-at-tgs-hd-test.php Here] and [http://kh13.com/forum/topic/21760-kingdom-hearts-3d-to-be-featured-in-upcoming-dengeki-playstation/ here]. I'm kinda surprised the other wiki beat you guys this time, although I haven't seen the trinity archives yet...}}
{{ErryTalk|time=23:32, 9 August 2011 (UTC)|kk=No, the other wiki doesn't have this under news, I might as well go add it onto the Trinity Archives}}
Well, not under news, but they still got to it first. I refuse to take credit for this.[[User:AlVan|AlVan]] 00:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
{{ErryTalk|time=00:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)|kk=Okay... ?}}
[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:KH_3D_Demo_News Axeken found it][[User:AlVan|AlVan]] 01:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
{{ShardofTruth|time=09:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)|talk=Who got it from KH-Vids.Net, who got it from a user named TheMaster, who got it from nintendo3dsblog.com. That's how the internet works so you could queue up with the others AlVan.
Anyway, I find the HD remakes more intriguing, especially, if they get their own FM version so Numora can troll us some more.}}
{{17m|text2=And if Nomura decided to release them exclusively for PS3. </Xbox360gameropinion>}}
{{Uxie|time=14:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)|luna=HD remakes? Oh, great. This will REALLY get the series going, when we just want to see how the story goes. (I'm being sarcastic)

Besides, now they have to re-write the story to try to exclude Deep Jungle. There is no way ERB inc would allow their world to re-appear.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)|text=I will eagerly await the arrival of ''Super Kingdom Hearts Alpha II Advance Turbo HD Remix Final Mix+''}}
{{The Inexistent|creeper='''Hey guys, you never know.  HD remake could mean a lot of things for Nomura.  I'm kind of hoping it means that he'll take the story and render it in HQ and make it into a movie.  It would be far less production than moding the game, and could catch up anybody who wants to get into he series.'''}}

{{AlVan|time21:45, 10 August 2011 (UTC)|text=No movie remakes, although a sequel would be okay. A remake movie would be stupid, a game sounds easier anyway as long as all they're doing is editing the originals to fit the standards. A movie would just be a pale shell of the original. Ever seen the ''The Last Airbender''?}}

{{LightRoxas|samus=AlVan, you do realize that it is a LOT more complicated then just "editing the originals", right? The entire game needs to be recreated in HD for the console, and changes to gameplay would have to be made as well.}}

{{AlVan|time01:00, 11 August 2011 (UTC)|text=That's what I meant by editing to fit new standards. They can't change gameplay to much to where it would be different if that's what you mean.}}

{{ErryTalk|time=01:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)|kk=Because when you remake a game in HD you just HAVE to change the gameplay. Many games from the PS2 have been HD'd and they've not changed 1 thing in gameplay. Tome Raider Trilogy is a perfect example of that.}}

{{LightRoxas|samus=@Erry, so you're telling me that they are gonna release a collection of KHI and II, and they aren't gonna change the controls of the first game at all, or implement any reaction commands, even if only for limits and saving, and they aren't gonna add another command list column with 'Summon' and 'Party'? Those are the types of changes I mean. Also, as Uxie points out, whether Deep Jungle could be included is also in jeopardy.

@Lapis: KH better not take the path of ''Street Fighter''}}

{{ErryTalk|time=04:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC)|kk=They probably won't do anything besides rewriting the story to exclude Deep Jungle, or they'll probably make an add-on for Deep Jungle that makes it free which means Disney and SE won't be making money off Deep Jungle}}

{{Uxie|time=09:08, 11 August 2011 (UTC)|zoe=The best way to make sence with a KH1 re-make is to put that gummi found in Deep Jungle (in the original) in another world, which would be either Olympus Coliseum, Wonderland or Agrabah. The option of a new world to replace Deep Jungle is a maybe, but I doubt it will be a good idea, since almost every world was destroyed by KH1.

I'm unsure about a KH HD remake, because there is already a major plothole with Deep Jungle, there is already a remake, and this will only push the inpaticene for new worlds. I'm already sick of Agrabah, Wonderland and Olympus Coliseum repeating the same plot.

Still, KH1 will become a retro game if people are to hate the re-make, and you know how much people love retro games over the newer games (take Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon, for example; fans prefer the classic games in both serieses. There will be a new Spyro game out soon, and already do people hate it. This remake will only boost the popularity of the classic KH1).}}

{{AlVan|time20:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)|text=Since it is, in a way, the same game, maybe Square would be allowed to use Deep Jungle again just this time. The limits in KHI will probably use the triangle button this time but that should be it.}}

{{Uxie|time=12:11, 12 August 2011 (UTC)|luna=Doubt it. I bet those ERB inc would make them pay millions for just one more use, then terminate any alliance pernermently.

And I think the whole idea of a HD remake is pointless. It will only make the classic games more popular and make the newer games hated, as proven twice.}}

{{ErryTalk|time=13:01, 12 August 2011 (UTC)|kk=...what. HD remakes are not pointless.}}

{{17m|time=13:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)|text2= Yeah, especially when my PS2 is dead, and my Laptop's graphic card is too retarded for me to use PS2 Emu.}}

{{LightRoxas|samus= I fail to see how an HD remake would make the newer games hated. If anything, it brings ''more'' fans to the series.}}

{{Uxie|time=14:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)|text=I guess you might be right. The reason why I'm being negitive is because I've seen the downfall for ''Crash Bandicoot: Mind Over Mutant'', and I fear the same for ''Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure'' (which is already panned by "fans", despite it not being released), but ''Black and White'' did great (and I have both versions).

Maybe the HD remakes might add some new backstories and hints on the next generation in the series. Only two games remain for this saga, but what will be next. I just hope there will be no re-boots...}}

{{AROS|time=19:42|text=The last thing Nomura would want to do is a re-boot of a series. If anything, he's probably going to be more enthusiastic about making HD remakes for all of the games he's worked on (well, except for maybe [http://http://kotaku.com/5910671/right-now-final-fantasy-vii-remake-isnt-the-most-important-thing one]). I'm all up for a HD remakes, the only things I'm concerned about are the same as everyone else's, namely ERB issues (thanks to John Carter of Mars, ERB will probably NEVER let Disney touch any of their stuff ever again), gameplay changes, FM issues, and of course, fan reactions. Also, I'm concerned about voice acting. Don't get me wrong, I love how HJO's voice is now, it's just I think the evolution of his voice helped make Sora appear like he aged a little more (That confused me so much on Re:CoM).}}

{{Uxie|time=08:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)|angela=''John Carter'' may be a flop, but it did get a strong audience outside of the United States (I went and saw the film, myself, and I've even got it on Blu-Ray... in 3D). It's supposted to be part of a trilogy; if there is no sequel, then you may be right about Disney losing the rights to ERB's works, putting the HD remaster for the first game in jeopardy.

Since my last message, my views on a possible HD remaster has become more positive. I now fully suport one for KHII{{Uxie-TT|*|Can't wait to see Space Paranoids in HD, already}}, but I'm still concerned for the original, because of Deep Jungle's censorship. I've got two trilogies in HD (''Jak and Daxter'', and ''Ratchet & Clank''), and their plotlines, gameplay and whatnot are the same as the original version, only with trophies and (in R&C:UYA's case) multiplayer through the PlayStation Network. So it could be possible that the gameplay and plots of the KH games in HD would be exactly the same as with the regular versions (plus the trophies).

I also support HD remasters for some ''Final Fantasy'' games, and I plan to get the HD remaster of FFX once it is released in PAL. I really want HD remasters for FFVIII and FFXII.}}
{{ErryTalk|time=11:43, 25 August 2012 (UTC)|bayonetta=Uxie's right, John Carter does have a bigger audience outside of the US. I still think a KH1 remaster is possible as long as Square Enix is the one paying ERB for the use of Tarzan, not Disney... but I'm not quite sure how that'll work exactly.}}

{{AROS|time=11:50|text=Ah, you guys could be right. ^^ It is possible for ERB to give the rights to Square Enix rather than Disney. Well, assuming they haven't given up entirely on letting anybody use their works, but that doesn't sound like a problem. It IS the same game after all. I would like to see some trophies in the first three games, assuming that they make another remake of Chain of Memories, but that would be a little redundant. I'm not sure if Days or Re:Coded would warrent remakes either, but I guess they could always give them the 3D treatment and put them on the 3DS, but again, Re:Coded is already a remake, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about that either. I'm very hopeful, but at the same time skeptical. We don't see too many remakes from Square Enix these days, considering how long it takes them just to advance the numbers.}}
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	{{AROS\|time=11:50\|text=Ah, you guys could be right. ^^ It is possible for ERB to give the rights to Square Enix rather than Disney. Well, assuming they haven't given up entirely on letting anybody use their works, but that doesn't sound like a problem. It IS the same game after all. I would like to see some trophies in the first three games, assuming that they make another remake of Chain of Memories, but that would be a little redundant. I'm not sure if Days or Re:Coded would warrent remakes either, but I guess they could always give them the 3D treatment and put them on the 3DS, but again, Re:Coded is already a remake, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about that either. I'm very hopeful, but at the same time skeptical. We don't see too many remakes from Square Enix these days, considering how long it takes them just to advance the numbers.}}		{{AROS\|time=11:50\|text=Ah, you guys could be right. ^^ It is possible for ERB to give the rights to Square Enix rather than Disney. Well, assuming they haven't given up entirely on letting anybody use their works, but that doesn't sound like a problem. It IS the same game after all. I would like to see some trophies in the first three games, assuming that they make another remake of Chain of Memories, but that would be a little redundant. I'm not sure if Days or Re:Coded would warrent remakes either, but I guess they could always give them the 3D treatment and put them on the 3DS, but again, Re:Coded is already a remake, so I wouldn't get my hopes up about that either. I'm very hopeful, but at the same time skeptical. We don't see too many remakes from Square Enix these days, considering how long it takes them just to advance the numbers.}}

	{{AROS\|time=7:20\|text=[http://www.kh2.co.uk/ www.kh2.co.uk] Well there you have it, IT LIVES!!!!! I've never felt so happy about being wrong about something before. I love this series. I LOVE THIS WORLD!!!!}}