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==Aqua = Kairi's Unbirth ?==
Okay. I mentioned this in [[Talk:Ven]]. Thought I'd mention it here since this is the talk page for Aqua.

From what we've seen, Sora turned into a Heartless (but was saved by Kairi), Roxas is his Nobody, and Ven is his Unbirth - heart, body and soul.

Kairi lost her heart and remained in a comatose state. She didn't turn into a Heartless because her heart was pure. When Sora sacrificed his heart to free Kairi, Kairi's Nobody, Namine, was born.

So could Aqua be Kairi's Unbirth ? Or, can we say that Kairi doesn't have an Unbirth because while she lost her heart, she still had the soul in her, that kept her in a comatose state ?
[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 15:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Ok, first of all, a Nobody is both the body and soul. But This could be true. We know an Unbirth is the opposite of human life, that could mean their life is backwards, meaning an Unbirth's death results in a Human's birth.
Terra's death= Riku's birth
Aqua's death= Kairi's birth
Ven's death= Sora's birth
... But that this would disprove my "Terra=Xehanort" theory. I suppose either is possible. [[User:Xnaminex|Xnaminex]] 20:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:The issue is, in one trailer, you see Terra looking at 4 year old Sora and Riku playing. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 04:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Ohhh...not another one. I dun't want to seem rude or anything, but the thought of her bein' an Unbirth seems so unlikely. Aqua may seem to share a similar name meaning to Kairi, it matters not at all. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 08:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


Well the only reason why I started this thing is because Kairi has a Nobody ! She '''should''' be an exceptional case ! [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 13:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Truth be told, she's not. She's already got two connections as it is. Do you really believe Kairi needs a third one because of a name meaning? We don't even really know the origins of them other than the fact that they are connected to the Heartless or Nobodies, nor do we even know if they can assume human forms. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 17:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. Well, we'll just wait and see what Tetsuya Nomura will have to say about this. As far as I can see, Sora and Kairi were the two exceptional cases. I somehow believe Terra hasn't really got a connection to Riku as many people speculate, but Sora and Kairi ? Also, it said rather explicitly that something happened to Ven and Aqua (for Terra to be calling out their names in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+). That something could've been death, who knows ?

Then again... remember one of the Secret Ansem Reports ? All the hypotheses of Ansem the Wise and Organization XIII were shattered by three strong-hearted individuals - Sora, Riku and Kairi. [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 02:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I personaly think Aqua is in some way connected to Kairi when she dies. My theory is that some of Aqua (when she died) rubbed off onto Kairi a bit. Like a little bit of Aqua went into Kairi. Same with Ven into Sora. Otherwise, how would Xion have been able to take on Ven's appearence?? I also beleive the same with Riku and Terra. That was one of the reasons why the keyblade had trouble choosing between Sora and Riku. 
BTW I personally beleive that that Terra-Xenahort theory is wrong, you can't say they are connected just because--what, a few of their hairs are in the same place?? I believe thats kinda an out of nowhere just trying to make something up assumption.
[[Special:Contributions/69.92.118.134|69.92.118.134]] 21:41, December 23, 2009 (UTC) nobody

==Aqua's outfit D:==
Hasn't anyone around here noticed that it looks quite similar to a certain manly, thong-wearing black mage?

you mean kuja?*doesn't see a similarity*but then again i'm really blind..... Firaga44 20:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I can't believe you think her outfit resembles Kuja's. I don't see anything looking alike overall. How'd you ever get that impression? You either studied her attire really well and come up with the conclusion that she looks like someone from Final Fantasy... Or just, for some reason think she's like Kuja... Actually, after thinking about it and remembering what you've suggested, I realized something. The color scheme for both Aqua [KH Birth By Sleep], and Kuja [FFIX] are almost entirely the same. The hair color, and shades of both their clothing... But I must add that this would be entirely coincedental, as blue is used to represent Aqua's name and if this was ever done on purpose, would be mentioned by Nomura. =D WinterChocolatt 03:44, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

== Outfit ==
Has anyone else noticed that the 'buckle' in the middle of Aqua's outfit looks like the nobody symbol upside down?Pizzahut101 01:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it does look a little, indeed! Perhaps her connection to Xemnas and Xehanort? [[User:Death-Messenger]], 20th August 2009.


{{Template:Ninabean|time=02:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)|text=Well there is that scene where Xemnas is talking to her...maybe she works for him or something. and the nobody symbol is the heartless symbol upside down}}

== Plyable ==
{{MM841||Do we know if she is playable, have we saw gamplay as her in recent trailers, or have we only saw Ven and Terra?}}

{{Xiggie|text=See the ''Battle Scenes?'' talk up there... watch the video. she is obviously playable! plus, in an interview, Nomura said that is BBS, there were actually three different games being released at once (or something like that), referring to the fact that Terra's, Ven's and Aqua's storys are different (three ways to play the game)... so Aqua is playable}}

==Kairi's Mother?!==

I have studied a little: Kairi came from Radient Garden. So far, we only met her grandma and it's hinted she's dead. We never hear from her parents. Aqua is a Keyblade Warrior and Kairi is a Princess of Heart and both were alive before Radient Garden was destroyed. Her appearance hints she is, at least, 20 years old. What if she's Kairi's Mother?! 

This could be the explanation for her likeness to Kairi! It would make sense Kairi, being a Princess of Heart, was daughter of a Keyblade Master! Maybe that would even explain why the Keyblade chose Sora! When the Heartless stole her Heart, the Keyblade went to her closest friend so he could help her, and it only happened to him because none of the other princesses were descendents from Keyblade Wielders! Makes Perfect Sense to me!

That also explains why she is the only Princess of Heart that fights, while all the others are just "Damsels in Distress"! It's in her Blood!

{{Template:Ninabean|time=03:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC)|text=I don't think so because 1.The keyblade choose sora because Riku gave it up for the power of the darkness 2.I think she might be Kairi's unbirth and i can't think of a 3. and i'm just curious about the whole Aqua intrist in kairi. where does it say that? }}

Okay, this same thing happened with Ven. Somebody thought Ven was Sora's father. I wouldn't be surprised if someone comes up and and says Terra is Riku's father. But there is one certain dilemma with these theories. It takes two people to make a child. Who are you sugesting the other parents are? [[User: Veroso]] 16:18 19 October, 2009
{{MasterAqua|time=05:48, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=Would you look at your daughter simply saying hello like youve never seen her before in your life? I don't think so. Plus, who would you say is the father? NO one. It can't be proven.}}

==Aqua & The Slipper==
Moved to [[Forum:Aqua and the Slipper]].[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rushing to the stairs. ==

{{KingdomHeartsFan|text=what are your thoughts on who or why the trio ran to the stairs?
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It could be master xehanort
{{ghostboy3000|text= Yep it is beacause of mater xehanort.}}

== Is it worth mentioning? ==

That she had her original character design changed at the request of disney?
Ah, you mean Aqua's clothes? Yes, I know all about that for quite some time now. They're only changing her outfit because the outfit she's currently in right now shows her back and the creator will think that's too sexy. I read it in a interview.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 00:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I never saw that interview--[[User:Trainalf|Trainalf]] 01:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's on HeartStation. Org.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 01:23, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I found it, seems everyone but disney is on the same page. It really is a shame i must say.--[[User:Trainalf|Trainalf]] 02:24, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Aqua does look what they call "sexy", but it's not that bad. For Kingdom Hearts' sake, it's her back!--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 02:26, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's disney, even though i can point out times where they've allowed worse, i won't. Ah well, maybe they'll leave the design in the game files and it can be hacked?

Hacking's illgeal.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 02:30, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yet sadly people still do hack games

Whatever. It's not my problem if you get in the slammer or not.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 02:36, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

We've gone way off topic, and i don't hack, i watch videos and read about what is accomplished by hacking

Okay, so we know that Aqua's clothes will be changing because her clothes that she's already in makes her look too sexy. We're going have to deal with it, much to most people and my dismay. The end.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 02:41, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, end of this topic

KrspaceT; I don't see the change; and those back straps are not to sexy, if she was in short shorts or low top I would agree with disney.

Yup. Later, tater!--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 02:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't Aqua also in the secret ending in Kingdom Hearts II? '''<big><sup><font color=thistle>—</font>[[User:Marexl|<font color=gainsboro>''Why''</font>]][[User talk:Marexl|<font color=silver>''You''</font>]][[User:Marexl/Jukebox|<font color=darkgray>''So''</font>]][[User:Marexl/Templates|<font color=slategray>''Obsessed''</font>]][[User:Marexl/Kingdom Hearts News|<font color=dimgray>''With''</font>]][[User:Marexl/Quotes|<font color=darkslategray>''Me?''</font>]]</sup></big>''' 17:41, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

{{Maggosh|time=21:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)|text=Oh you've got to be kidding.
<!--[[Image:Aquawtf.JPG | thumb | left]]-->
It's practically just her shoulders!}}

That's the old look this is the new one[http://heartstation.org/gallery/birth-by-sleep/birth-by-sleep-screenshots/BHwjqkJb9R9fNa121qCHIQJS4owEj5ml.jpg.php] that they want to change, also I don't think this is really interesting enough to be a trivia.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 22:58, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
{{Maggosh|time=01:46, October 6, 2009 (UTC)|text=So it's showing MORE of her back. Wow. I like it. Kinda makes her look like BlackRose from .hack.}}

What's done is done. We can't change that.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 22:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
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KrspaceT; I don't see it. It isn't like the looks at FF X-2, then I would understand. Maybe its a move to have more "appealing" female protagantists, maybe Kairi and Namine will look like that later on

{{Firaga44|text=Yep if Aqua looked like X-2 Paine Rikku or Yuna then*shudders*that'd be a bit scary.}}



I don't mean to be rude, but instead of fixing the back, they couldn't do anything about her breasts? They are kinda... big, for a kids game or Kingdom hearts game!. But, at least they aren't Tifa's size... That would be very... distracting for the male population. >.>

xD  jk jk. But seriously, they are kinda big.

[[Special:Contributions/216.7.252.253|216.7.252.253]] 18:13, February 25, 2010 (UTC)Black_Rose1809

== Who she will be with ==

Krspace T; Debate time, so who will she end up with, Terra or Ven. This is just for opinions, I say Ven

Terra. Ven's too young for her.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:29, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

:Ven Looks the samge age as aqua so I say Ven '''<font face=Trebuchet MS color=indigo>—</font>[[User:Ghostboy3000|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=darkmagenta>Ghost</font>]][[User talk:Ghostboy3000|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=mediumvioletred>boy</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Ghostboy3000|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=deeppink>3000</font>]]</sup>''' 23:30, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

{{Xienzo|time=00:48, December 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=I SAY VEN!}}

KrspaceT; Perhaps they will have a date feature like with Final fantasy 7

that'd be cool!but i doubt it i thought nomura said there was no romance in the series? Firaga44 22:03, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

KrspaceT; He may have just meant KH 1, 2, 3 but they are older so he may change his mind, or he forgot
--[[User:KrspaceT|KrspaceT]] 17:21, December 13, 2009 (UTC) Plus, anyone else see the commercials, Aqua was fighting TERRA, and looked like she was going to cry about Ven being frozen. Play sappy romantic Violins, now
I think it will be Ventus, so what if she's older then Ventus. Cococrash11
{{Template:ST|time=18:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=of the two, my opinion is ven}}
--[[User:KrspaceT|KrspaceT]] 12:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC) --[[User:KrspaceT|KrspaceT]] 12:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC)Well I saw a picture where Zak asks her on a date, who says Ventus wouldn't, plus she really was worried about him in the Birth by sleep battle video

{{Ataradesu|time=22:30, December 23, 2009 (UTC)|text=Totally. As if her little BROTHER has been hurt. If there is romance, it's Terra / Aqua, Ven is way too young. I wouldn't see Aqua being way taller than Ven if they were about the same age.}}

{{HeartFallout|time=21:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text= Ven is better}}

I think Aqua is in love with Terra. There's several hints at it. Here is a list of them:

1) At the end of Olympus Coliseum when Aqua speaks to Hercules, she whispers that she believes Terra will become a hero.


2) After Radiant Garden, Aqua becomes much more focused on Terra’s doings, then again, she might just not have known about Ven still traveling worlds.

3) Aqua refused to believe that Terra would fall into darkness, even after what Maleficent told her, and she became very distressed when she found out the things he did with darkness were true.


4) The opening video. When Terra walks past her, Aqua clutches her heart with worry.


5) When comparing Sora and Riku with Ven and Terra, she wants Sora to help Riku, who is more like Terra.


6) When Aqua speaks to Maleficent after she is defeated by her and Prince Philip, Aqua mentions how she lost to the power of true love. Two people fought her and Aqua was one of them, fighting to prove Maleficent wrong about what she said about Terra stealing Aurora's heart (even though Maleficent was telling the truth). That could be a hint that Aqua has feelings for Terra.


7) Aqua almost seemed heartbroken when speaking to Terra in Radiant Garden about his darkness. She seemed the same way when they spoke in the Keyblade Graveyard and when Yen Sid told her that Terra played a part in Eraqus's demise.


8) THE MOST IMPORTANT: Aqua willingly jumped into the darkness to save Terra in the Last Episode and she even gave up her Keyblade and armor for him.


-Aqua_Storm14



If she was given the chance to escape the Realm of Darkness, she'd probably want to try and save whatever is left of Terra and restore Ven's heart by taking it from Sora. Thus, there is a possibility of her returning as a villain in KH3, or the next game. As for who she could be with...Ven. [[User:Werehog21|Werehog]] 9:02 PM 2/22/2010 (UTC)

==Wings==
{{Template:ST|time=18:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=Anyone else notice her shoes have wings}}
{{Maggosh|text=I always thought they  were spikes.}}
{{PrincessAndie|text= I noticed, but isn't Ven the fastest of the group? I wonder why Aqua has the shoes then...}}

I always woundered why they have little bits of arm on--[[User:NikkieJay|NikkieJay]] 14:50, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
{{LapisScarab|time=04:02, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=They're spikes, I don't see any resemblace to wings.}}

== her age? ==

{{Template:Ninabean|time=04:37, December 8, 2009 (UTC)|text=I was just wondering how old do you think Aqua is? I think about 20 or so. 
I was just wondering u guys opinions :D  }}

20 years old is a bit much so I think since Ventus's age is 15 like Sora and Roxas and Aqua is the middle of the 3 Keyblade warrior maybe she's 16 and while I'm at it Terra is the oldest probably 17 years old. Thats what I think{{unsigned|Cococrash11}}

{{LapisScarab|time=04:53, December 8, 2009 (UTC)|text=Actually, this was brought up on Ventus'  talk page, check there.}}

==Armor==
Just looked at Aqua's armor on this page (the most recent incarnation). Aside from the armor that appears on her when not wearing the armor, I think it looks rather organic, kind of like Vanitas' clothing. Gonna check Ventus' and Terra's to see if this is a running pattern. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 18:34, December 11, 2009 (UTC) UPDATE: Just checked, yeah, the organic thing seems to be a reoccuring motif. Maybe this is the forerunner to the Drive Form?

== Aqua's run ==

{{Template:Ninabean|time=16:07, December 18, 2009 (UTC)|text= have any of you guys noticed that aqua's run is kind of similar to kairi's? the way her arm moves when she's holding her keyblade kind of looks like when kairi runs how her arms flail around. wht do you guys think? }}

Oooooh i see what you mean about the arms, yeah the same way Kairi's kinda flail like shes trying to fly. I think its a subtle connection if there is one at all.--[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 18:18, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Very subtle.--[[User:RedemptionUltima]] 03:10, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

The [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlyRun Girly Run] is a stereotypical way for a female character to run to make her look feminine. [[User:HarpieSiren|HarpieSiren]] 03:16, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
{{MasterAqua|time=19:18, December 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=I don't see why they have to add it into almost all the girl cahracters... give them some respect!}}
{{LapisScarab|time=04:00, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yeah, it would be a welcome change if they stopped doing that. Mulan's the same way. It makes the least sense with her and Aqua, since both of them are trained warriors.}}

== Fate Revealed @ JumpFesta 09? ==
Apparently the latest summary of the BbS trailer at  JumpFesta depicts Vanitas impaling a 'fallen' Aqua with his Keyblade.

- ''Aqua stands in front of Castle Oblivion.''

- ''Vanitas stabs his keyblade into a fallen Aqua.''

- Unknown place. ''Aqua is pointing her keyblade at someone.''

- Aqua: ''“My name is Master Aqua. And you will return my friend’s heart!”''

...

- ''Aqua stands in a world of darkness and cries.''

Is Jump Festa '''10''' and everybody stab by a keyblade has survived, so that doesn't tells us anything except that she gets stab.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 21:03, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

== Bubble Blaster Confirmed ==

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9729/aguabubble.jpg

{{Maggosh|text=We're not denying it's true; the thing is you only put the name down and left the rest blank.}}

Ok sorry for ruining stuff, i'll leave everything to you then.

== Charms ==

{{KingdomHeartsFan|text=In the new jump festa trailer you see that the charms in the cgi scene are red, blue, and green, but soon after the pillars of aroura (red) cinderella (blue) and snow white (green) appear. Do you think they could be connected some how?}}

== Lone Survivor ==

{{Template:ST|time=17:13, December 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Am I the only one thinking that Aqua's going to be the lone survivor of the trio, Ventus seemingly dying in himbeing frozen (obvously not immediately, but because of it) and Terra succumbing to darkness and somehow meeting is end because of it? I am only saying due to:
a)Aqua alone sheddinga tear at the Dark Meriddean, 
b)Ventus wraped in white clothe on Destny Islands
c)Aqua (and Aqua alone) referring herself as 'Master'
d)Aqua and Terra's battle}}

I completely agree, even if Ventus doesnt die due to the freezing he isnt going to make it to the end of the game. Terra might survive in  another form like merging with someone or becomming someone else but in a sense he would have died to. Aqua to me seems to be the most intresting character, i know she doesnt have a huge mystery or connection were aware of but she seems the most intresting to me. I think shell survive the ordeal and maybe go into hiding or just want to escape everything, for all we know she could a master of the keyblade at the Land of Departure.--[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 17:34, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

{{Template:ST|time=01:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)|text=Revision on theory: Ventus is not dead, he has lost his heart.
a)Ventus' lifeless state is similar to Kairi's in KH
b)both Aqua and Terra asking about their 'friends' heart}}

== Aqua, Ven, Terra, and Master Eraqus's charms ==

{{MasterAqua|time=21:57, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Ok, you know how people are saying their charms look alot like the heartless sign? Well, I just looked at them again, and I think they ARE the heartless sign! I think That Ansem might have stolen the old keybearer sign and used it for his heartless studies. The only thing missing from the charm is the cross section in the middle and the black and red.}}

I think it looks much more like the Nobody symbol.  It's a bit of a stretch to call it the Heartless symbol, but I guess I CAN see the similarities... either way, that's just heresay and speculation.

== Aqua's Keyblade(s) ==
This is all hypothetical, but in the scenario of Aqua leaving the Realm of Darkness and returning to The Radiant Garden to find her armor and Rain Storm, what is to stop Aqua from duel wielding Master Eraqus' Keyblade and her own? [[User:XYZach|XYZ.]] 19:32, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure but she left her own keyblade on the real of light and as she was in the realm of darkness with her armor, I think that her armor stayed with her keyblade just like with the lingering sentiment--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 22:11, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

uh i don't get it how can sora and riku not notice aqua in the dark margin

my first time here THE ULTIMATE KINGDOM HEARTS FAN {{DEFAULTSORT:}}

She wasn't in the dark margin at the same time as riku and sora--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 18:25, April 8, 2010 (UTC)