User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa

Welcome to the home of intellectual discussion - TNE's Mensa ! Meet me here if you want to get together and share lots of great ideas. Alternatively, if there happen to be discussions about creative stuff, policy issues and Wikimarkup ideas on my talk page, I will not move them to the archives but to this page. Coincidentally, "Mensa" is an anagramme of "Ansem", but that's not the real sense of it - it's an "institution for wise men", so to speak.

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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne

September 2009

Crazy idea given by HeartofOblivion (2009.09.16)

Okay, sort of a quiz on which WikiFauna one would be...

1. Are you okay with anonymous IPs making constructive edits onto pages?

Yes
I'm annoyed

2. Do you welcome new users?

Yes
Only if I have the time
No

3. If anyone asks you for help, you...

Gladly help them
Say that you'd like to, but you don't have the time
Snap at them

4. What is your most edited domain?

Main
User
Template
Category
MediaWiki
Kingdom Hearts Wiki

5. You have a penchant for...

thinking fast.
proper grammar.
proper colour combinations.
translating Japanese into English.
searching for pictures.
making Category Trees.
socialising!!
two or more of the above.
all of the above.

6. Do you love making your own userboxes?

Yes
I'd love to, but I don't know how to make one
No

7. While editing...

you ask for others' opinions before putting the information in question into the article
you don't ask for opinions, but cite a source
you just put it right into the article!

8. How are you towards other users?

Mild-mannered
Can be a bit snappy if I don't have enough food/you get the point.
Downright rude
I don't *bleep* care if people don't speak 1337, I'm gonna use it!

9. You are...

an introvert
an extrovert

10. Which of these animals/creatures appeals to you?

Fish
Otter
Sloth
Octopus
Jaguar
Cat
Dragon
Mercenary
Knight
Gremlin
Imp
Giant
Troll
Goon
Princess
Ogre
Gnome
Fairy
Zombie

11. Your goal on the wiki is...

to make constructive edits based on the sources I have
to obtain adminship
to help others in the editing process
to spoil the work that has already been started
to make theories and counter them
to socialise!

You know, I seriously think we need 19 responses per question, to comply with the 19 types of WikiFauna available, so we can easily choose which one the user corresponds to.

Different Fauna

I found out that there are 25 types of Fauna on the regular Wiki.

WikiElf
WikiFairy
WikiGnome
WikiOgre
WikiTroll
WikiCat
WikiDragon
WikiFallen
WikiGiant
WikiGoon
WikiGremlin
WikiGryphon
WikiImp
WikiJaguar
WikiKnight
WikiKraken
WikiMercenary
WikiMinnow
WikiOtter
WikiPrincess
WikiSloth
WikiTrout
WikiVampire
WikiWizard
WikiZombie

- HeartOfOblivion 03:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Whoa ! So wait a minute : can you pass me the link to each ? So that I can see what types of personalities they have ? TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Here is one page and then all the others are in a navigation box at the bottom. [1] - HeartOfOblivion 04:10, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

OMG. Now here's to thinking what characters should be placed into the userboxes. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hello there, mind if I barge in :P I happen to have a Quizilla account, and I'd love to try to make this WikiFauna test for you :D I think that we should set it up as 24 questions, with (at least) 10 answer possibilities, defining the answer. Each question would be about a single WikiThingy's specialty, like How do you treat newbies? (the best answer would be for WikiOtters, while the worst would probably be for the WikiVampires). Get it? could we do this? - Ice boy^Svalur! 14:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sweet! But for 25 WikiFauna possibilities, what should we do? TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 14:36, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

This has been awhile but I agree. I don't think we should have a question like #10 up above. I always hate that when I take a quiz and I feel like I know what I'm going to get as a result because of questions like those. It should be about the person's personality and editing style. - HeartOfOblivion 05:00, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Image Choices

~~WikiGryphon: Wyvern?~~
WikiFallen: Wight Knight
~~WikiMinnow: Flounder and make WikiTrout an Aquatank?~~
~~WikiVampire: Sora's Vampire form~~
~~WikiWizard: Yen Sid or Merlin~~
WikiElf: Santa Elves from Christmas Town
~~WikiFairy: Tinkerbell~~ We already had it just wasn't on the Userbox page.

Another problem: categorisation. See Category talk:Users by WikiFauna. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Well, we'll have to wait for an admin to help because we can't move categories and it would take awhile to go through all of them and then have to delete them. - HeartOfOblivion 04:29, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

They have the Move button. We normal users used to have it but when Wikia changed its policies here and there, they decreed that we can't have the move button. See how much trouble it creates for us. I used to be able to move articles at my own will. Now I can't. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:32, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: We do have the Move button, but not for Categories. Damn. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Or files. I'd love to stay up and help but I have classes tomorrow. So night! - HeartOfOblivion 04:35, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

G'night then. See ya soon. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:43, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Once again, sorry this has been so long. Did we ever fix this problem? If not, I shall ping an admin. - HeartOfOblivion 05:00, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

More userboxes (2009.10.18)

Organisation XIII, Series 2

Credit goes to ENX for the idea of adding quotes. TNÉ _{Pour Noël je te donnerai le battement de mon cœur… ♥}04:11, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Kindly refer to Userboxes/Characters#Organization XIII for the complete collection.

File:User Xemnas 2.jpg

This user wonders if you can spare a heart.

File:User Xigbar 2.jpg

This user wonders if you've been a good boy.

File:ISaix.png

iLove iSaïx.

File:IDancer.png

iLove iDancer.

File:IXemnas1.jpg

iLove iSuperiorOfInBetween.

File:ISaix.png

iLove iSaïx.

List of image files for iSeries Round 5

IRiku1.jpg
IBlueRhapsody.PNG
IMoogle.jpg
ISaix.png
IChilly by Sapphire Alex.png
ISchemer.png
INymph.png
IHero.png

If there should be another round of mod/admin voting ? (2009.10.22)

Ideas for a new implementation system. There are quite a lot of users who think their Wikipeers should select them for modship/adminship, and I believe a lot of us are quite aware about this. However, this is my plan. It's foolproof, there's no need for fights, edit wars, or Wiki users crying over un-nominated people ! Here's the pitch :

First, we take a look at the users' edit count by hitting Special:Editcount/(the user's name).
The fields to be judged are
- Mainspace. This should be the main concern.
- Kingdom Hearts Wiki
- Help (perhaps)
- File
- Category
- MediaWiki (where applicable)
- Templates - not a good category to pick, because many people make humongous edits to their talk templates. However, if a user's been known to make tables/tabs/userboxes/infoboxes/navigation templates or help out in coding, then we'd most certainly consider him/her.
From these fields, the Staff panel will discuss on nominations, and a list of names will be selected, along with their reasons.
From there, all users of the Wiki vote.
The final results of the users' poll determines who gets selected. In a way, the Wikipeers are voting, but for the right reasons.

Feedback s’il vous plaît !

It sounds great, and much better than the previous peer-nominating. Before, Users who mainly just roamed the talk pages and blogs got nominated by their social peers, whereas that will no longer be a case in point. Also, nice note on the template; for several users, this is why they have a surprisingly high edit count in template; however, there are Users like Xiggie and ILHI who work in that namespace regularly. Altogether, great system. However, the staff actually seems very solid right now; I wouldn't count on having another staff election anywhere in the near, or even somewhat far future. --DoorTo Nothing^Kupo! 04:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

May 2010

Screen project

To get :

Roxas's Struggle, HD.

Anything else in HD is greatly appreciated ! TROISNYX AM D G 08:54, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

June 2010

Deflect statistics - KH1 : List

R&D, Xion4ever and I are currently working on this project together. I'm specifically handling FM Heartless, if there ever is a way to deflect them. If you'd like to join us, please help out ! TROISNYX AM D G Sulu mata engkudu ! 00:45, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

NOTE : The reason why experience varies in the Beginner Mode is because of an EXP-enhancing ability, Tech Up, which Sora has by default from the Awakening. After Level 11, EXP just goes up. Without Tech Up, the Tech Points received will be the same as in Kingdom Hearts. Consider that towards the end, I have had at least three Tech Ups equipped. I must replay these files and see what happens when only one, or two Tech Ups are equipped.

The stats I put in for FM Heartless before Kairi's rescue use one Tech Up.

Name	KH Deflect EXP (Before Kairi)	KH Deflect EXP (After Kairi)	FM Deflect EXP (Before Kairi)	FM Deflect EXP (After Kairi)	Card number used (REC)
Tidus		N/A	Before Level 11 : 2 After Level 11 (Beginner), 14 (Standard) (1 Tech Up) : 4	N/A	N/A
Riku		N/A	Destiny Islands : 1 for deflection of thrust attack	N/A	N/A (playable)
Wakka		N/A	Before Level 11 : 1 for normal deflection 2 for midair deflection After Level 11 : (After Level 11 (Beginner), 14 (Standard) (1 Tech Up) : ) 2 for normal deflection 4 for midair deflection	N/A	N/A
Selphie		N/A	1 for deflection 1 if jump rope hits Selphie's head (After Level 11 (Beginner), 14 (Standard) (1 Tech Up) :) 2 for deflection 1 if jump rope hits Selphie's head	N/A	N/A
Air Soldier	1	27	2	135
Large Body	2 for deflecting running charge attack 1 for deflecting arm swipe attack.	72 for deflecting a belly bounce. 24 for deflecting a slap.	2 for deflecting running charge attack 2 for deflecting slap 2 for deflecting when it throws itself onto Sora
Shadow		Deflectable, but no Tech Points received	Deflectable, but no Tech Points received	Deflectable, but no Tech Points received
Soldier		9 for deflecting slap.	2
Defender		12 for deflecting the Fire attack 25 if it hits the shield	48 for deflecting the Fire attack 13 if it hits the shield	180 for deflecting the Fire attack 19 if it hits the shield
Powerwild	1 (all attacks)	9 (all attacks)	2 (all attacks)	30 (all attacks)
Bouncywild			2 for deflecting slingshot attack		1, 2, 4
Red Nocturne	1 for deflection 2 if it hits Red Nocturne	12 for deflection 9 for using Blizzard	2 for deflection 2 if fireball hits Red Nocturne 2 for using Blizzard 2 for using Gravity		1, 2, 4
Blue Rhapsody	2 for using Fire	12 for deflection 9 for using Fire	2 for deflection 2 for using Fire		1, 2, 4
Yellow Opera	1 for deflection	12 for deflection 9 for using Gravity	2 for deflection 2 for using Gravity		1, 2, 4
Green Requiem		9 for using Gravity	2 for using Gravity		1
Search Ghost		35	2 for deflecting normal attacks 2 for defeating it when it is oversouled 4 for deflecting it when it is about to use Drain	120 for deflecting normal attacks 13 for defeating it when it is oversouled
Gargoyle		36 for deflecting a energy ball 12 for deflecting a tackle			4
Darkside	Destiny Islands : Deflection of energy attack : 1 Energy attack hitting the Darkside : 2 Hitting the head instead of the wrist : Every third hit landed will give you 2 Tech Points if it is a ground combo. Air combos take longer.	Deflection of energy attack : 39 Energy attack hitting the Darkside : 82 Hitting the head instead of the wrist : 82	Awakening : Hitting the head instead of the wrist : Every third hit landed will give you 2 Tech Points. Destiny Islands : Deflection of energy attack : 2 Energy attack hitting the Darkside : 2 Hitting the head instead of the wrist : Every third hit landed will give you 2 Tech Points.
Fat Bandit	6 for blocking a hand swinging attack 4 for preventing fire projectile attack.	72 for blocking an attack 24 for fireballs being hit back at the Fat Bandit	4 for blocking a hand swinging attack 4 for hitting the Fat Bandit with a finisher before it casts a stream of Fire 8 for guarding fire projectile attack 2 if the fire projectile is deflected at the Fat Bandit, throwing it backwards	90 for blocking an attack
Hercules		19 for blocking headblock attack			N/A
Black Fungus					7
White Mushroom		1 for casting the right spell 10 if the same spell is cast thrice		1 for casting the right spell 10 if the same spell is cast thrice In Atlantica, since all of the White Mushrooms need Stop cast on them, the first one gives 3 EXP, the second gives 2 and the last one gives 1. After that they call the Pink Agaricus.	N/A
Pot Scorpion	N/A	N/A		360 for deflecting its sting attack 240 for deflecting its pincers	N/A
Pot Spider	1 for guarding an attack	6 for guarding an attack 15 for guarding an air attack	2 for guarding an attack 4 for guarding an air attack	45 for guarding an attack	N/A
Barrel Spider					4
Wizard		"Tech 45" and "Tech 16" both show up when you hit a Wizard while it is casting Fire and/or Blizzard, so I am taking this to be 61 EXP. Unless the 45 refers to the experience.		16 for hitting it when it is about to cast Fire and/or Blizzard
Ice Titan	N/A	24	N/A	120	N/A
Red Armor	1 each for blocking Gauntlets, Hammerlegs, Torso attacks	9 each for blocking Gauntlets, Hammerlegs, Torso attacks			N/A
Bandit	2	27	2 for almost all attacks 4 for blocking it while it hurls the scimitar at Sora	45 for blocking a normal scimitar attack 90 for blocking the "scimitar dance" 135 for blocking whilst it is guarding (or is it while it is preparing to hurl the scimitar at Sora ?)
Air Pirate		13
Leon		Coliseum : 15 for deflection 2 if fire ball hits Leon	Traverse Town : 2 for deflection 2 for deflecting fireball 1 if fireball hits Leon Coliseum : Pegasus Cup : 14 for deflection (fireball and sword) 1 if fireball hits Leon 5 if Lionheart is successfully deflected and changes back into the normal sword		Variable
Yuffie		11 for deflection 7 if shuriken hit Yuffie	Pegasus Cup : 14 for deflection 4 if shuriken hits Yuffie and stuns her		N/A
Wight Knight		27
Cloud		19 for blocking a normal sword swipe. 11 for blocking Sonic Blade attack twice.	Preliminaries : 2 for blocking a normal sword swipe
Pirate		9		45
Battleship			10 for taking out the mast 24 for taking out the turret 10 if homing missiles hit the body of the ship, rather than Sora	60 for taking out the mast 24 for taking out the turret	N/A
Gigas Shadow	N/A	N/A		50 for deflection 10 for the first one, 20 for the second one --> 60 for the last one	N/A
Darkball		6		90 for deflecting the "charging chomp" attack
Guard Armor		9 for every attack	First battle : 4 for blocking any body part
Opposite Armor	7 for blocking charge attack	11 for deflectin the tackle and hand spin 30 for deflecting a head spin	6 for blocking charge attack 6 for blocking "Hammerlegs" 14 for blocking "Gauntlets"		N/A
Cerberus			6 points for deflection		N/A
Pot Centipede	2 for blocking antennae attack 1 for knocking out/preventing Pot Spider to join Pot Centipede body 4 for deflecting head ram	N/A	4 for blocking antennae attack (if I'm not mistaken) 8 for deflecting head ram (Beginner) 14 for deflecting head ram (Standard) 8 for deflecting pincer attack	N/A	N/A
Cave of Wonders Guardian	8 for blocking eye lasers.	N/A	8 for blocking eye lasers (Beginner) 4 for blocking eye lasers (Standard) 4 if they hit the Guardian's head	N/A	N/A
Sea Neon			4	150
Ansem	N/A	For deflecting the energy disks: 99 (1st and 2nd battle) For guarding the aerial tackle: 199 (2nd battle only)	N/A
Parasite Cage			First fight : 6 for blocking Left Tentacle/Right Tentacle Second fight : 12 for blocking Left Tentacle/Right Tentacle When he swings his left and right tentacles, it's deflectable, but no Tech Points are earned.
Artillery (World of Chaos)	N/A	1 point for delfecting the small blue shots	N/A		N/A

Leon - 15 EXP is earned when you block an attack. If you deflect the fire ball back at him, you recieve an extra 2 EXP
- When you deflect his Lionheart (the blue sword) while he walks at you, you gain _____ EXP.

Discussion

For the Powerwild I'm getting 9 EXP for both inside and outside Deep Jungle..difference between KH and KHFM?--Xion4 ever 01:52, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

When I was doing that, I was playing KH, not KHFM.... Weird ! Unless it's a different attack. Was it the slide attack or the claw ? TROISNYX

AM D G 01:21, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I do believe it was the claws..I might be mistaken. Hang on, I'll check again..

Okay, weird... I'd better check Deep Jungle again. In the meantime, mark it as 9 EXP for all places. TROISNYX

AM D G 02:33, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Both the slide and claw attacks give you 9 EXP.--Xion4 ever 02:11, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, weird... I'd better check Deep Jungle again. In the meantime, mark it as 9 EXP for all places.

EDIT 12:00, June 11, 2010 (UTC) : For all these stats, are those after Kairi's rescue ?TROISNYX AM D G

Yes, after Kairi's rescue...that's probably why. All the ones I've added have been from Kairi's rescue. Think we should put something like (AKR) to show the stats are after Kairi is rescued? Also, I have another save file that is before her rescue, I'll start getting some stats from it.--Xion4 ever 15:16, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it's the same before and after the rescue but the Bandit tech ponts after the recue are also 27. User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Sig

I'll check the before rescue part here directly (I'm about to start Agrabah in the save file). Anyways, I've added Redeemer's information under the appropriate section.--Xion4 ever 19:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok... The World of Chaos itself does not provide tech points. The Artillery does and the heartless you fight during teh battle does too. But I'm not sure. Maybe someone should double check. I find it hard to deflect while flying.User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Sig

I know ; deflection doesn't usually happen while flying. Even harder to trigger in FM. And I also think I should restart FM in normal or Proud Mode (I'm playing in Beginner, and I'm advancing too fast). TROISNYX

AM D G 00:48, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I apologize for not adding to the project as of late. However, I will pick up in Agrabah and add everything I get the next time I am on. Sorry for the delay.-Xion4ever

Thanks a lot. ^_^ I'm counting on you. In the event that I have to go on WB or worse (Let's pray the worst doesn't happen !!), do ask ShardofTruth to help out, because he has KHFM. TROISNYX AM D G 13:45, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Log #1

Now I'm not going to the extent of Userbashing here. But... when someone admits it's a lag, it's a lag. If you want to shut the user up, you can tell him politely. I had the entire discussion log with me and there were no cases of people actually saying things which caused other users' ire. It's not called for, when you just block a user after he truly admits it's a lag. Now he's feeling bad and saying it's his fault. I'm only standing up for what's morally right over here, considering that I've been through the same situation as the user concerned, and had Xion not told me about Freenode, had Faethin been there, I'd have suffered the same fate.

And oh, sure, I'd be silenced for speaking the truth. It's nothing new. But where something is not right, I stand up for it, even at the expense of my current position, my integrity, everything.

03:50, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Log #2 (On FB)

You talk about bashing, and you bash the users in their absence. Now, to be honest, the commune is a myriad of people. Some are mature for their age. Others just be immature. Now, we can identify the immature users and for the most part, IRC users and I will be in accord with the same names. From the log I received, there was one swear which was not recorded or admonished. On top of that, there were some things which really disturbed me. Especially with the approach taken to address problems.

If you're going to be just like the person in Log #1, or maybe 50% less harsh, that'd drive any user, for that matter, to even leave. Even me. And to be honest, when I took my Wikibreak last year, it was simply because I just wasn't too happy with the sudden change in environment. Where before NS it was friendly, after that, it was plain stifling. I stayed on hoping to bring about a change. There are small signs of change now, on the part of the discussion that a few Staff and I had, but apart from that, rien.

This entire discussion has been logged and will not remove from my archives in the near future. Call me a prude if you so wish, but I have liaised with the users more than with the Staff (except, perhaps, for a few notable cases), and I take time to know them. So if the least of them gets bashed by the staff, or spoken about, I know. I really do. Don't ask me how. Don't even ask me how I get the trust of both new and old users alike.

I will have to return to the IRC this August and set things right. The IRC is not going in a direction I had hoped for. And I will have to fight.

02:07, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

MA Template

Almost everyone and anyone gets into the MA warning templates - though this is only but a suggestion. I will only put it up when everyone says yes.

First Warning

Return my friend's heart or pay the price!
	This is a warning for not adhering to the rules of the Mirage Arena. Your edits have been reverted; please do not attempt to repeat them.

Now I need ideas for Warning 2, Warning 3... I'll attempt Permanent Loss of Privileges. :P Though this one risks being hard because I can't get to align the text to the centre. If all else fails I'll take a cue from KHFR...

Permanent loss of privileges

The privileges you know will be gone forever.
File:VanitasCGITalk.png	For inadherence to the rules of the Mirage Arena, your voting privileges have been irretrievably revoked.

Staff Page Remodel

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