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Just a thought.[edit]

I think we should add more pictures to artcile to make more lively. Just an idea of course. ~NejiHyugaRocks

Crown Stickers?[edit]

Anyone have any ideas on what they could be? I read about them in SE's release about the NA date.24.205.43.42 22:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

O vs X[edit]

Why have SE always put X as atack over here when in JPN it's O? I just got used to playing Dissidia Final Fantasy?Gr8champ 18:37, April 14, 2010 (UTC)Gr8champ

D-Link[edit]

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Thomaskh2 Discussion — Our connected hearts are my power!

Is that Mickey's star fragment?

Vsymbol1.png Peter Pan in D-Link ?! Really ?!


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RedemptionUltima - What IS he!?! No one's EVER worn the darkness the way that he does! It's impossible!
TALK - See my illusion!
WHOAH!

Jump Festa 2010[edit]

- Yay finally another trailer. It seems Lea and Saix are confirm and they too are for radiant garden, lets hope the info is real.--Masgrande 05:04, December 19, 2009 (UTC) - - *Hmm....I hope they have ALL the organization members in the game. They already have members 1-8. Hopefully they are able to squeeze Numbers 9-12 in there...I always wondered about Luxord's real name and Past........ - - Khinsider made a more detailed impression of the trailer so here it is: - DiZ is probably the one doing the narration... - - DiZ: “Everything is born from sleep. Yes, even you...” - Ven is sleeping on a chair. We don’t know where it is, but is this the “Room of Awakening”? - - Birth by Sleep - - In Land of Departure Eraqus is speaking with Xehanort - Xehanort: “There is only a little that has come down to us about the Keyblade Wars. After the destruction creation slept. After the Keyblade Wars what slept? Are we destined to discover the light and be equal to it as it says in the legend? That is what I want to find out.” - - In Land of Departure Terra and Aqua are trying to comfort Ven who looks depressed. - Terra: “My dream is to become a Keyblade Master.” - Aqua: “You mean it’s “our” dream, right?” - Terra: “Right. All of us. It’s our dream.” - Terra hands over a wooden keyblade. (On it is written “TERRA”) - - In the Mysterious Tower Ven appears in front of Donald and Goofy - Donald: “Gaaaaaaaaaah!?” - Wrapped in light and unconscious [? maybe unconscious ‘fallen’] Ven us holding the King’s “star fragment” in his hand. - Donald: “The King!?” - Goofy: “Nope, doesn’t look like it.” - - In Castle of Dreams Terra talks with the Fairy Godmother. - Fairy Godmother: “Terra, do you have a heart that believes in dreams?” - - In Disney Town Captain Justice appears in front of Aqua. - Captain Justice: “Captain Justice at your service!” - Aqua: “Huh?” (cocks her head) - - In Neverland Peter Pan appears in front of Ven. - Lost Boys: “Peter Pan!” - Peter Pan: “Who’s this?” - - In Disney Town Terra seems to be asking Chip and Dale something. - Chip: “What are you doing!” - Dale: “That’s against the rules!” - Minnie: “No, I don’t think we can accept that...” - - In Olympus Colosseum Zack asks Aqua out on a date. - Zack: “Hey, want to go on a date with me? Just one?” - Aqua: “I.. I...” - Aqua tries to decline. - - In Dwarf Woodlands Ven is comforting Snow White. - Ven: “A heart that is scared will see illusions.” - - In Olympus Colosseum Hercules talks with Terra. - Hercules: “Someday I’ll be a champ too, and then I’ll become a hero.” - - In Deep Space Aqua gives 626 a charm. - Aqua: “This will be my connection to you.” - 626: “?” - Aqua: “Will you be my friend?” - - In Olympus Colosseum Hades tries talking to Terra. - Hades: “Why don’t you try controlling the darkness and becoming even more powerful?” - - In Castle of Dreams, Ven and Jaq have made Cinderella’s dress. - Jaq: “Hurry! The ball is going to start soon!” - Cinderella: “Thank you so much.” - - In Neverland Peter Pan hands Aqua a wooden keyblade. - Aqua: “This...” - Peter Pan: “Ven left that behind.” - - In Dwarf Woodlands the Queen laughs as she makes Snow White eat the poison apple. - - In Enchanted Dominion Terra seems to have realized something. - Terra: “What did you make me do!?” - - In the wastelands Mickey stands over Ven, who has fallen. - Mickey: “A keyblade isn’t something you use to hurt people!” - He is pointing his keyblade at someone. - - [Hikari plays] - - Scenes from the opening movie and the Birth by sleep secret movie play. - - Terra and Aqua fight. - - Vanitas holds out his hand to Ven. (Reminiscent of the opening to KHII with Sora and Riku.) - - TAV look at the charm they hold in their hands. - - Three stained glass floors - - Ven is running. You can’t tell where, but afterward the darkness turns to light. - - Terra runs, in a place that looks like Castle Oblivion. Afterward the light turns to darkness. - - Aqua looks worried, holding her hands to her chest. - - Aqua then Terra then Ven fall with a lot of keyblades. Ven smashes the stained glass floor (Maybe the picture is Sora or Roxas?) - - - Radiant Garden, Terra and Xehanort. - Xehanort: “Aqua and Ventus have light that is too strong, it will just make the darkness inside you more apparent.” - - - In Land of Departure Eraqus asks something of Aqua. - Eraqus: “If the unthinkable happens and Terra really falls into darkness, bring him back to me immediately.” - - Enchanted Dominion, Maleficent makes Terra’s darkness stronger. - Maleficent: “Look, look at the darkness that sleeps inside you.” - - Land of Departure, Ven and Vanitas - Ven: “Who are you?” - Vanitas: “You’ll have to see for yourself, when Terra will stop being Terra.” - - Radiant Garden, Xehanort speaks with Terra. They’re outside. - Xehanort: “You should know him, the masked boy. His name is Vanitas.” - - Radiant Garden, Vanitas has fallen and Aqua gets close to him and tries to take off his mask. - Aqua: “Just who are...?” - Vanitas: “Hahahahahaha” (He suddenly starts laughing.) - - Radiant Garden, Xehanort tries to get Terra to leave. They’re inside. - Xehanort: “Travel the worlds! And destroy that one who disturbed the balance, Vanitas!” - - Mysterious Tower, Mickey and Yen Sid. - Yen Sid: “Mickey, it seems something terrible is going to happen.” - - Wastelands, Xehanort and Ven who is holding his head, the King has fallen. - Xehanort: “You are losing [yourself?], you must take it all back, grab it anew!” - - Unknown place, Someone is talking with Vanitas - ??? (Xehanort?): “How is he, Ventus?” - Vanitas: “I must make him stronger.” - Vanitas holds his mask. - - Destiny Island, Riku talks with Terra. - Terra: “Why do you want to go to other worlds?” - Riku: “I want to become stronger.” - - Radiant Garden Aqua and the King have just save (?) Kairi. - Aqua: “I feel a light in this girl.” - The King: “There might be something special in this girl.” - Kairi just stares at them. - - Radiant Garden, Ven runs past the two guardsmen. - Ven: “Leave him to me!” - Eleaus: “Wait!” - Dilan: “What can a child do!?” - - Radiant Garden, Braig laughs slightly. - Braig: “You mean this kid is actually a pretty good keyblade wielder?” - - Radiant Garden, Ven seems to have rescued Ienzo. - Even: “It seems we owe you thanks.” - - Radiant Garden, Lea (Axel’s human) and a boy (Saix’s human, name unknown) are looking at Ven. - Boy: “Looks like you’re all ready to do it.” - Lea: “Of course, because we’re already friends. Got it memorized?” - - Radiant Garden, the air is tense around Terra, Ven and Aqua. - Aqua: “I thought it when I saw you leave for other worlds. I thought you are getting too close to the darkness.” - Ven: “Aqua, what are you saying!? Terra wouldn’t...” - Terra: “So you’ve been watching me...” - Ven looks surprised, Aqua looks serious. - - Birth by sleep Secret Movie, Aqua is glaring at someone, and Ven is covered in ice though he hasn’t given up yet. - “The bond of our hearts isn’t something that can be broken so easily by someone like you!” - - Land of Departure, Eraqus is pointing his keyblade at someone. - “You shouldn’t exist!” - - Battle, Minigame, Multiplayer - Style Change “Wing Blade” “Ice Blast” - Shoot Lock “Ultima Cannon” “Multi Vortex” - D-LINK “Donald” - Command Board “100 Acre Wood” “Disney Town” “Land of Departure” - Land of Departure special move “Keyblade Ride”, allows you to move where you want. - Etc. - - Narration and scenes from the BbS secret movie.

- DiZ: “The world has been almost been swallowed by darkness many times, but always a keyblade wielding boy has come to save it.” - Land of Departure is swallowed in darkness, Terra looks up at it. - Place unknown, Xehanort vs. Terra? Xehanort: “You won’t be able to Ventus or Aqua!” Terra: “I won’t forgive for this Xehanort!” Xehanort: “Yes, let anger fill your heart with darkness!” As Xehanort says, Terra starts pulsating with a dark aura.

- DiZ: “Perhaps if it is him... the boy who can connect his heart with anyone...” - Sora watching falling stars. - - On Destiny Island (?) a baby Ven is wrapped in white cloth and looks towards the sky. - Aqua stands in front of Castle Oblivion. - Vanitas stabs his keyblade into a fallen Aqua. - Unknown place. Aqua is pointing her keyblade at someone. Aqua: “My name is Master Aqua. And you will return my friend’s heart!”

DiZ: “Then he will be able to open the door and save those unhappy souls.” - Ven glares at someone. He is synchronizing with that “someone” [what? I don’t really understand what this means... maybe it needs to be seen.] - Aqua stands in a world of darkness and cries. - Terra stabs his keyblade into the wasteland. A place that looks like Dive to Heart, Ven stands on the stained glass and yells. Ven: “Our connected hearts are my power!”

DiZ: “His name is...” - On Destiny Island, Sora stares at the sunset (wearing his clothes from KHII_

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Awesome ain't it--Masgrande 04:17, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

COOL~!

Ienzo was in trouble!?! What a trobulesome child. I can't believe him.--NinjaSheik 04:26, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Kingdom Hearts. This game now looks so awesome that I must get a PSP. Anybody else have Return of the Jedi flashbacks when they read the "Yes, let anger fill your heart with darkness"? --LapisScarab 04:41, December 20, 2009 (UTC)+

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

And then MX casts massive Thundagas at him, and eventually Vanitas picks him up and drops MX into a...pit.

Yeah, I just spoiled BbS for you. :P


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ZALGO THE IMMINENT! - Who...puts an evac station...up thirty flights of stairs?
TALK - Hey, maybe the helicopter...maybe it's made o' chocolate!
Maggosh, you just made my day with that...

9 years or 10 years?[edit]

- - Why does people kept saying Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep is 10 years before KHI its 9 years for the first game and KHII is the one that was 10 years ago. Didn't you guys remember Leon saying in KHI that his home world was devoured by the Heartless 9 years ago. It is suppose to be 1 year later after KHI and KHCOM and in KHII that is 10 years before Leon saying the year is nine and in KHII it is 10 years when he says. I know the last sentece doesn't make sense or had some bad grammer but my point is that BBS is 10 years before KHII not KHI. KHI is 9 years before. I just want to get this year thing clear out. Cococrash11 - - :Not necessarily. You see, it takes time for something like this to happen. And it was said that this Xehanort lost his memory when he became Ansem's apprentice. There is a chance it dates back to 10 years before KH1 began, because the Radiant Garden was first world to turn into disaster. So it could take a year for all that to happen before Leon left it. - - Charmed-Jay 08:04, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - It's 10 years, Sora is 4 and Riku is 5, when they are 14 and 15 in the first game. I can assume you can do math to figure out how we got there...--User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 13:06, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - It is 10 years in KHII and KHI is 9 years. Sora is 14 years old in KHI and 9 years ago in KHBBS and Sora is at KHII is 15 years old it is 10 years when he was 5 you guys do the math. Cococrash11 - - :Nine years prior to the events of KHI, Hollow Bastion was taken over by "Ansem" and Leon and the others had to go to Traverse Town. THAT was 9 years prior to KHI! Now, if we say that BBS begins 10 years prior to KHI, then it makes sense! The timeline of BBS could be during weeks or even months! When Xehanort was found by Ansem, it seems that the three Keyblade heroes from BBS were nowhere to be found, and that might mean that one of them is indeed the Xehanort we've all come to know and lov— hate :P Xehanort must have been Ansem's apprentice for quite some time before he and the other 5 took over Radiant Garden and banished Ansem to the realm of Nothingness. THAT happens 9 years prior to KHI! Then "Ansem" and the other six eventually gave in to the Darkness and became nobodies, but Xehanort's Heartless remained in Human form and continued their business. This makes sence, ya? - IceboySvalur! 09:32, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

High School Musical[edit]

- - I know it's probably impossible, but I kinda have a small hope that HSM would be involved in this game. If not in this, then perhaps the next one. - - --Charmed-Jay 21:02, October 29, 2009 (UTC) - - Not a chance.--NinjaSheik 21:06, October 29, 2009 (UTC) -

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

People, if you really think Square is gonna put that Disney Channel crap in KH, go stick your head in a bucket of ice water. If that doesn't work, a lobotomy is also recommended.

- - Okay, hey! That's not very nice. You don't have to be rude, even if it's the truth.--NinjaSheik 21:16, October 29, 2009 (UTC) - - Hey, I was just thinking, okay? If you don't like the idea, then you might as well throw yourself into the ocean. - - Charmed-Jay 06:18, October 30, 2009 (UTC) - :Excuse me, then, it's about a twenty-minute walk...—Urutapu 07:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC) - - Instead of arguing, we could try to look at this from both sides. Amongst reasons why it might not be included are: The game is probably almost finished, and trying to rush in another world could end up just as bad as trying to work sonic into the subspace emissary. As catchy and lively as all the songs are, they just don't really fit the feel or the mood of what has been seen so far of bbs. - As far as reasons why it could be in there are: If they can think up a scenario for the 100 acre wood, then they could probably make one for hsm. Even just a mention of hsm would probably be enough for some outrageously obsessed people to buy the game, and that means they get more of what they want, which is money. 165.138.0.20 14:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC) - :I've got to agree with Maggosh and Urutapu here. HSM is terrible, just terrible.Glorious CHAOS! 14:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC) - - All right, that's it! Let's drop the subject. I was just saying this to a discussion page. if nobody agrees, then it's nothing to talk. besides, my message says "i have a small hope", i'm just hoping for a silly thing, what's with all the dramatic discussion? - - let's just drop the subject, okay. just drop it - - Charmed-Jay 15:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC) - - You know I would go all for it, with KH having a High School Muscial world. I was hoping it will be in KH358/2 Days but it didn't get out. Right now I don't care about HSM anymore if its gonna be out in BBS or other seaqul I'm okay with it. But what is with you guy saying about Charrmed-Jay he just wishing about a disney world thats all. Cococrash11 -

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Um, no. HSM was made by Disney Channel, not Disney all by its onesy, savvy? You don't put sitcoms in an action RPG. It's not done.

- - Sora would be like "WTH!"--User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 12:58, November 1, 2009 (UTC) - - :If Square actually did put in High School Musical, it might scare buyers away. All that world would be is just singing and dancing through button presses, like Ariel's world in KHII, and that was only slightly bearable, since the Little Mermaid was badass in the original Kingdom Hearts. Anyone who's real would never visit that world. The Yoshiman 97 02:09, April 17, 2010 (UTC) - If they ever put High school musical into KH, it would lose most of its profits, from all of the male players, and possibly some female ones as well. If they do put it in (let it be not so) it better be an optional world. it would be a crappy atlantica (KH2 version) at best. If they do that, they might as well make AkuRoku and SoRi canon, to keep the crazy fangirls happy. - -

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Iluvcinderella Listen and talk to my light-filled heart... — "Why, its like a dream. A wonderful dream come true!"

Bibbidi, Bobbidi, Boo! — 01:53, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

ok if there's any chance that this becomes a world in the kingdom hearts series, then it'll probably be like Atlantica due to the music stuff

FF characters that would be in BbS[edit]

- - Has nobody brought this up? - i was just sitting here in class thinking "i wonder what ff characters would go well in this game..." - i was thinkin Cloud and Zack, but the timing doesnt really fit seeing that BbS is 10 years befor KH n the time befor Crisis Core to FF7 is about 5 years right? - itd also be ok to include onion night or worrior of light maby? what do you guys think? - - Needs moar Garland Kaihedgie 20:31, November 8, 2009 (UTC) -

Ice Cream[edit]

So, despite all we've found out about the story, we still know close to nothing about the actual gameplay? I mean, there's still no page for the ice cream or mini-games!--24.205.43.42 05:40, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

KINGDOM HEARTS 3 CONFIRMED AND OTHER TITLES[edit]

I found this interview with tetsuya and he talks about kh3 and other titles http://heartstation.org/?p=2093 ninabean822 x3 01:24, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Crap, I thought the series would end with #3. Oh well, more KH is never a bad thing. Wondering what the game Nomura was talking about will be. The Yoshiman 97 03:09, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Even more new changes, so that means.....?[edit]

So I heard there's going to be an extra boss for the NA release of BBS. Anyone know what it is? I don't know when this info came out so sorry if this sounds like a dumb question to ask. Also when Nomura said that they were going to make some of the bosses stronger, did he mean they were going to give them more health too? Cus from the videos Ive watched, most, if all of the bosses look like they only have two health bars. (excluding MX, Vanitas and the Trinity Armor)

Changes[edit]

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ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DL Sprite Vanitas Icon KHBBS.pngAccording to Nomura the NA release is going to have some of its cutscenes "put back to the way they were". What are you guys hoping those will be. I am hoping he at least puts the capes back on the suits of armor and changes there keyblades to what they were weilding in the BbS video


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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png They do get their original Keyblade designs again during the course of the game.


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HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us
TALK - It will keep us connected
You do know Terra and Aqua obtain those Keyblades during the course of the game, right?

Rating[edit]

Did anybody besides me think (and secretly hoped) that this game would get a Teen rating instead of an E? Vaddie 03:01, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Amen to that.--No.i 03:12, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

It will (the scene where Braig loses his eye kinda cemented that for me), I'm confident of that, but why would that matter?--Lapis ofthe Night 03:17, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter to me I just expected a Teen rating since the overall story is pretty dark and some mature scenes. Vaddie 18:08, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

A question[edit]

In the secret movie of KH2. Does anyone know what the giant thing behind terra is? The one that disintegrates. because it was not in the game. Also. Does anyone know about the three Keyblades that Aqua, Terra, and Ven pick up? because that was not in the game either.--No.i 21:42, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Can you play psp games on ps3[edit]

I don't have a psp, but I have a ps3 and now you can buy psp games off a ps3 (for psp go) so does that mean you can play psp games on the ps3 (all the buttons are there)? I was just hoping someone already knew. Black Tornado 16:45, February 27, 2010 (UTC)Black Tornado

Armors[edit]

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Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ? — 12:22, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
Vsymbol.png Do we know anything about them ? Is this a Mode Change available near the middle/end of the game ? Is it some kind of limit mode ? A mode like Dark Mode ? Or will the heroes just wear that 24h/24 till you reached some point in the story. Can we remove them ? What does it do exactly ? Shouldn't a page be created for them ? Thanks for helping me out, if you have any info. ;)


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Xabryn - Golden Star Charm.pngI don't care if you're real!You're not better!
TALK - Mobile rikurep.pngIt's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}}
Heartless Emblem.pngI hope it be a Mode like Dark Mode but i think it will be like sometimes we use sometimes we don't use it, about creating a page it is a good idea but we need more information first


Any word on Sephiroth[edit]

Has anyone heard if Sephiroth is going to be featured in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep? I have reason to believe that he 'may' appear in Birth by Sleep because of the descriptions set in Jimmy's Journal about him:

Kingdom Hearts

No one knows why he has suddenly returned.

Apparently, he and Cloud have crossed paths before.

Kingdom Hearts II

For a long time Sephiroth's whereabouts were unknown, and no one can say for sure why he has returned.

He seems to have some connection to Cloud's past.

If you noticed, it says in both descriptions that he has "Suddenly returned". Could he perhaps have been a key character in Birth by Sleep? And perhaps would the relation between Cloud and Sephiroth be explained in this? Might explain how they have crossed paths before...--Pkthis 20:42, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

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Thomaskh2 Discussion — Our connected hearts are my power!

Hearts that are scared will show you illusions.

Vsymbol1.png It seems not possible beceause Nomura has said that Zack is the only Final Fantasy's charchater who appears in Birth by Sleep.

Course, Nomura may not want to give away information about the secret boss at this point.(In the same interview that stated Zack would be going solo this time, nomura mentioned that Cloud and Squall were considered to appear but removed because there'd be too damn many characters and subplots in Radiant Garden)

My take on the secret boss issue: "Enough expository banter!Now we fight like men!And ladies!And men who look like ladies!For GILGAMESH...it's morphing time!"71.54.128.73 04:40, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Although Gilgamesh would be an amazing secret boss, him or *cough*Kefka*cough*, Nomura did say that Zach is the only Final Fantasy character in the game except for the moogles. My thoughts are that it will be a Disney character of an original character that we have not seen yet. Maybe Marluxia's somebody? Who knows. - HeartOfOblivion 05:08, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


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Ataradesu]] Qu'as-tu fait à son coeur ?
Vsymbol.png Obviously not since he also said the members of orga XIII present in the games stop at number 8, Axel. but it could easily be Sora, Xemnas, or Xehanort, maybe.


Crispin Freeman[edit]

Vanitas Awakening (Art) KHBBS.png
ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DL Sprite Vanitas Icon KHBBS.pngThink it's possible that he's voicing Terra since he voiced Setzer in khII and Setzer's Japanese voice actor voiced Terra?


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FA icon.png Possibly - at least we won't have Jesse McCartney, David Gallagher or Osment hogging the limelight for once. :P (Well, McCartney's voicing Ven, no doubt, but yeah, you get the point.)

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! TroisNyxÉtienne — 14:56, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Heartless[edit]

Since Land of Departure is gonna be consume by darkness I hope we get to fight/see some heartless.--Masgrande 01:52, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


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Master Xehanort Talk to Me! You need to see it with your own eyes. When you stop being yourself.

Show me your strength! — 20.11

It's unlikely, because the Heartless were created by Xehanort, who shows up after Birth by Sleep, and the Darkness probably stems from Master Xehanort or Terra. Or both, because they seem to be linked to the Xehanort we know. Anyway, no Heartless appear, as the Unversed are the enemies of the game.

From what I seen heartless(pureblood) appear in one cutscene and the nobodies too, can I mark their pages without getting into trouble.--Masgrande 10:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Another Dive[edit]

this just surface on kh insider about a new game in teh serie called "another dive" it is to be a follow up to the secret ending of BBS it is rumord to be for the ps3, can any body plz giive a comfimation.--Zonnic2 13:33, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


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Master Xehanort Talk to Me! Heed me, Kingdom Hearts! Lend me your power, so that we may be complete! The power to erase the fools that hinder us.

Anger and hate are supreme! — 20.07

Well, Square Enix did post a link about this Another Dive, but it doesn't go anywhere. It is rumoured to be a spin-off, but how many points of view do we need? Where the hell is my Xehanort spin-off?! The rumours appear to be just that. Rumours. No official details exist, and I think that someone is just screwing with us. It's not likt the other trailers, because as far as we know, this info doesn't exist. Again, where is my Xehanort spin-off?! I know you can see this Nomura!

Secret Ending[edit]

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Master Xehanort Talk to Me! Heed me, Kingdom Hearts! Lend me your power, so that we may be complete! The power to erase the fools that hinder us.

Anger and hate are supreme! — 17.04

I just watched the 'Secret' ending on BbS, and it annoyed me. Aqua and Ansem meet before a roulette of Characters utter 'Sora'. It gears itself for a new game, and ends with the tagline: 'Reconnect. Kingdom Hearts'. What the hell does that mean?! Is there a new game planned?! I want to know! Give me answers Nomura!


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LOMI, Voice of Nothing Master of Fiction
{{{1}}}


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Master Xehanort Talk to Me! You need to see it with your own eyes. When you stop being yourself.

Show me your strength! — 17.29

I know what you mean. It just seems that Kingdom Hearts is being dragged out incessantly, in order to rake in more revenue. Don't get me wrong. I love the games, I'd just like clear, defined points, and a focus on the real story, where it starts, and where it will end. We can't keep a series going for a decade on the one story. It gets repitive. Unlike Final Fantasy, Kigdom Hearts has not moved to Alternate worlds/dimensions between each game. Just stop dragging it out!

Info. Addition[edit]

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AntMan9751 - "Man I miss the old times..Still got it memorized?"
TALK - He made me feel...like I had a heart. It's kinda funny...
Why are we discussusing what we know about BBS, but not adding the information to other articles?(e.g. Terra being Xehanort)

If we know true facts, why don't we try to update the articles?

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Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!!

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png That boy is a monster infused with darknessSaxisai 08:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

because they dont want the story to be ruined for some people, even though if they click on their "My Home" page, it shows every single revision and edit made. So they locked the important threads so that nobody can edit them.
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AntMan9751 - "Man I miss the old times..Still got it memorized?"
TALK - He made me feel...like I had a heart. It's kinda funny...
Ah, I understand now, but (random, stupid question here), why would they look at the important articles if they would have large spoilers? Characters like Vanitas and Terranort, people would know that extreme spoilers would be dished out, so they wouldn't look at the articles. If they know not to look, wouldn't it be safe to add the info?
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Saxisai Chat it up! — AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Sorry, I just found it funny for some reason when you tried to take off my mask!"Saxisai 16:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion yes, it would be safe to add the information IF and ONLY IF you add spoiler tags around what you put in, but once again, for the people who don't want to know the info, they cant even go to their home page or the forums because there are so many spoilers that cant be filtered....
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I think they're also paranoid that a translation pandemic is going to happen like it did for the last game.
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.
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AntMan9751 - "Man I miss the old times..Still got it memorized?"
TALK - He made me feel...like I had a heart. It's kinda funny...
If we DO put spoiler tags, can we put the information? For all we know, there could be people who want to see what's going on in BBS. I'm just sayin'. And I do agree that people can't go on the forums of their home page due to spoilers, but they don't have spoiler tags. So if we add the spoiler tags, can we put the info?
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Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm...

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Well, it worked for my page, X-Blade, so I don't see why not...
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AntMan9751 - "Man I miss the old times..Still got it memorized?"
TALK - He made me feel...like I had a heart. It's kinda funny...
I fixed my box. Thanks for helping.

Okay, what if other users revert/delete what I would write?

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Saxisai Talk if you must... — This is my story,

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Nothing should get deleted if it is valid and has the correct spoiler tag placement
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Just another Nobody - "But don't waste your time. We Nobodies can never hope to be Somebodies."
TALK - Think I'll pass, my heart just wouldn't be in it, y'know?
Now we CAN'T edit any BBS-related articles until April, because some user protected them... This stinks.
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KrytenKoro - "Because I knew something he didn't. I knew that I was lying. Seriously, sir. 'No silicon heaven'? Where would all of the calculators go?"
TALK -
You could possibly discuss the spoiler policy on the forums, as was requested, or discuss additions to the page using this talk page, as was requested.
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Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm...

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Think think think think think think think..."Saxisai 02:59, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Not entirely true, there are some articles that aren't locked. And you can also still create your own articles, like I did for my X-Blade article (before it got turned into X-Blade - dont ask :P)

Oh, and everything KrytenKoro said

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AntMan9751 - "Man I miss the old times..Still got it memorized?"
TALK - He made me feel...like I had a heart. It's kinda funny...
"Everything KrytenKoro said...?"

So... what other worlds do you think thta might be in BBS?

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Saxisai Chat it up! — Do you remember

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "when the world was a simpler place?"Saxisai 00:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

"everything krytenkoro said", i mean everything that they posted, look above my previous post.

And all the worlds have already been revealed

Secret boss[edit]

It appears that light of a hidden boss battle in Birth by Sleep has come out thanks to a ripped track in the game which appears to be another remix of Destati. Who/what the boss is has yet to be found. Kaihedgie 17:09, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

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AntMan9751 - "Man I miss the old times..Still got it memorized?"
TALK - He made me feel...like I had a heart. It's kinda funny...
Maybe its's the Darkside that Aqua encounters


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D.Dark - Master of lame names!
TALK - D.Dark. 02:32, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Ooo i love Destati *hums in head*. *SPOILER* Hope it will be like in the cutscene where Aqua is surrounded by 4 Darksides. *SPOILER* Well it would be nice if each character had like a secret/superboss to fight.
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Don't know if any of you noticed this but the Darksides that surrounded Aqua were all destroyed in the same cutscene.
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.
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FA icon.png Exactly.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

A reliable source said that the secret boss is the spirit of Vanitas. [1]Vaddie 05:34, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was sure they'd put in a secret boss, only that I didn't know where and when it'd be. Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 06:02, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
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I was disappointed when there was no secret boss in Chain of Memories. And the Dustflier in Days was kind of disappointing. That fight better be good.
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

New info guys. From the look of things you fight Terranort as Aqua in the Last Episode. Only this time, he's using the Guardian. [2] Vaddie 17:23, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm...

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Wait, do you mean the dark guardian that Ansem SoD uses or do you mean the literal Guardian that you linked to?

Yeah, the dark Guardian from KH1. Here's a video for the secret boss, an unversed Vanitas.[3] Vaddie 17:47, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Saxisai Chat it up! — OH MY GOD!

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Look at my face!"Saxisai 17:58, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

HOLY CRAP! That was a 1 hit KO! But didn't you say that it was Terranort? this is Vanitas....
No no no, Xehanort is the final boss. Vanitas Sentiment is the secret boss.—Urutapu 18:22, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
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Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm...

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Think think think think think think think..."Saxisai 18:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Then why was he talking about the Dark Guardian? I have no memory of this

EDIT: and i know that xehanort is the final boss

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I can't wait to fight that boss! I'm also dreading it. But it is disappointing it wasn't something more interesting. Although Vanitas looks awesome in black and white.
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.
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Saxisai Chat it up! — OH MY GOD!

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Look at my face!"Saxisai 18:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

You just gave me an excelent idea....which you will find out later :P
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I have a feeling I know what it is but I will wait to see if I'm right. Which I probably am.
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

Not a Sentiment. Just another Absent Silhouette. Probably the first in existence. Kaihedgie 19:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Saxisai Chat it up! — Do you remember

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "when the world was a simpler place?"Saxisai 19:56, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I don't like the way it turned out, so I didn't bother adding it...I don't like how my picture in this one got pixelated either...

Sorry for the confusion. I meant to say that Terranort was the TRUE final boss in the game. The Unversed Vanitas was the secret boss. Vaddie 01:42, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Games getting more feminine?[edit]

Has anyone else noticed that Kingdom Hearts games are starting to get more feminine as they go? Like Kingdom Hearts 1 wasn't really a big deal, big then chain of memories...Marluxia? Pink Hair?

and in BBS a MAL protaganist named TERRRA? Is that really a MALE name? and it appears tome that terra is wearing some kind of skirt.


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First of all, Marluxia was originally supposed to be a female. But they changed their minds, but kept the design and name, hence the feminine-ness. Second, Terra means "earth" in Latin and can be used as a guy or girl name. And third, while I can't remember what it's called, it is not a skirt.
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.
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Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm...

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Think think think think think think think..."Saxisai 17:07, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It's not a skirt, it is a type of pants that Samurai's wear, look them up

(ever seen Bleach? it's similar to what they wear, or Afro Samurai)

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Gah! What the heck is the name!? I can't think of it but I know I know it! So frustrating!
Randomnessity Well, you won't vanish from my memories.
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Saxisai Chat it up! — AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "Sorry, I just found it funny for some reason when you tried to take off my mask!"Saxisai 17:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

They are Hakama pants...or at least thats what I was taught

(Oh, and Eraqus wears them too)

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Right! That's it!
Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

Should Their Be A Remake?[edit]

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HeartFallout Talk! — If I had a dollar for every time I broke my PS2..

I would still be very poor. — 01:24, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, their should. They did so with CoM, So I thought it would b cool if they remade BBS for the PS2/3

.....it just came out. Doreiku Kuroofangu 22:42, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


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TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png What's more, it's already basically a console game in terms of graphics and relevance to the series. I seem to recall Tetsuya Nomura saying that he only remade CoM so that it would have 3D cutscenes, and was not remaking Days because it aleady had them. By that logic, there's no reason for there to be a remake of a game with better graphics and voicework than Days.

WOAH! I just total facepalmed myself. I didn't realize it was for PSP! So, what, if we don't have one we won't be able to play?! If I'm ignorant of some up-to-date news, please forgive me, but I think it's totally unfair that all of their games (minus that cell phone game) have been on PS2, but this one PSP. If they don't make a remake, they're going to get a lot of fans mad. Heck-- I hope their sales go down, because there's no chance in heck that I'm going to buy a PSP just for this game. /rant D:< Mrsaxel 15:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

"I think it's totally unfair that all of their games (minus that cell phone game) have been on PS2"
CoM was GBA, 358/2 Days was DS. But alright, don't buy the game. I'm sure Disney and SE will weep at losing you. Doreiku Kuroofangu 15:51, January 27, 2010 (UTC)


Chain of Memories was remade into a PS2 game, thank you very much, but okay-- 358/2 did slip my mind. I still think they'll someday remake that into a PS2 game, too. As I said, I won't buy the game, then. And they will weep at losing me-- how kind of you to think so, too. ^__^ Mrsaxel 16:17, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

I said above why CoM was remade and why that reason wouldn't fly with BBS. I don't have a PS3, which has a bunch of games that look good and I am quite certaiin KHIII will be on it, but I just sort of accept that.--Lapis ofthe Night 06:19, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

"-- And so now we're interested in the next game in the series.

Nomura: First we have to do the foreign version of 'Birth by Sleep' (laughs). We've more or less decided on the details. We're thinking of putting in a Critical Mode for battles. Also, we'll make some of the bosses that felt weak stronger. Mega Flare was too powerful, so we plan to adjust that. As for events, the direction of some scenes was changed for various reasons so we'll put them back into the form that was originally planned, we'll adjust the events to make the story a little easier to understand, and add in some extra parts.

-- So there'll be several changes. Does this mean we can expect a 'Final Mix'...?

Nomura: That will depend on how much it differs from the Japanese version. But we do basically want to bring out one game in the 'Kingdom Hearts' series every year; we don't intend you to go for years without a single piece of news."i that interview Nomura states that there might be a remake here is the link: [4]Heartless Emblem.pngXabrynAquaCharm.png

Remakes only happen if it is nessacary. CoM was nessacary because of the fact that it was the only game not to have more than two minutes of 3D cutscenes, not everyone there was fought, and several things might have needed some explaining. But remakes work like this: Main Console/PS2 -> not enough stuff (such as challenges, bosses, or secret movies or at least some subbtle referance to the next game); Portable Console -> not 3D-ish or unique in technology enough, no voices, multiplayer, and availability (GBA: retro, almost classic and practically rare; DS/PSP: modern, more available, and just gosh darn awsome); Other: Some things aren't released as games but explain some points (like an exclusive manga explaining how Malificent's raven was released by Axel and Roxas), manga, spin-off movies if they ever do them (like how FF VII: Last Order influnced or inspired some scenes in Crisis Core: FF VII), and who knows what they will do with Coded (make over-seas version more available than a Japanese-only Phone or get the media out in some ways or another). But for now, the NA/PAL version is the remake, but the amount of differences could bring about a REmake or Final Mix (God, I hope not, it's hard enough just to get the final mix of a PS2 game and the Swap Magic, but it would be MURDER if they put a final mix on the PSP or PS3, you cant swap on a PSP or PS3, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!). But lets hope not, final mixes are unfair unless they give Japan EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE AND NOTHING MORE, NO EXTRAS THAT WE DIDN"T AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL GET!!! (LOL, Angery Video Game Nerd Jr.!). But as for what BbS might have for US, I REALLY hope that they give us a secret boss that has to do with the future, a more playable Destiny Islands, GIVE VEN BACK HIS ORIGINAL KEYBLADE FROM THE SECRET MOVIES AND DEMOS, SEA-SALT ICE CREAM (as in the gameplay Ice Cream), the boss that Terra had just beaten in the begining of the Gathering movie, and of course, LET THEM WEAR CAPES (They could just work on the gigs to fix them or something, maybe just put the capes in the Climax but not multiplayer)!!! Well, I'm going to go pass out from lack of oxygen now. *thud* AROS 19:19, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

........Why does there have to be a remake now Kaihedgie 02:31, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Kamen Rider influience?[edit]

4 of the main characters have Armored forms... 3 of them have a traveling vehicle.. Anyone else think there might be some small connections in this game to Kamen Rider? Hyperwre_2.0 17:40, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

If they wanted to make a Kamen Rider reference, they'd give them scarves and have them kick people in the head, I think.—Urutapu 19:49, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Braig has a scarf. But most of the Heisei (the current era in japan) Riders don't wear them, the only recent one is W, this years. Hyperwre_2.0 21:59, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Western Release Changes[edit]

For those curious - http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/02/18/tetsuya_nomura_on_kingdom_hearts/. Doreiku Kuroofangu 13:33, February 18, 2010 (UTC)



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Key-blade master - I don't need a weapon! My friends are my power!
TALK - Roxas... I wish I could meet him too... — 04:45, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
I can't wait to get the game! And I'm kinda skeptical about the changed event scenes. But I hope they add a few hidden bosses like they did for the first game, however unlikely. But the changes sound fairly decent and not too bad. I can't wait!

The Guardian[edit]

So... [Guardian] is a Heartless, isn't it? Well, how can it appear in Birth By Sleep, since Xehanort and other Ansem's apprentices created the Heartless about 1 year after BBS? Or is the Guardian an Unversed? DoctorNefariousTrophy 16:45, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

What Xehanort did was manufacture the Emblem Heartless. But the Pureblood already existed.Redeemer & Destroyer 16:47, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


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UnknownEnigma - In the meantime, would you be interested in meeting another who is considered a hero?
TALK - Your existence is worth nothing!
If memory serves me correctly, Mr. Nomura stated that as long as there are hearts, there will always be heartless. I forget where I saw this at, but I saw it on a website that was linked from here. I think it was KHinsider. I'm not sure. It was some sort of interview with Mr. Nomura about Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. The interviewer asked a question about the existence of the Guardian ironically.